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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.04 08:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Galgorth
Your French-sounding name makes it easy to understand why you downplay military defeat. ISS is, was, and always will be a joke. They were first destroyed on a drunken lark by IAC (Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate) and will now certainly be kicked out of 0.0 space again by the RSF war machine. Hell, just this month they BARELY managed to earn above 5% to pay their required 5% dividend. And that's with a team.
Actually they make a lot more, but Tech2 market depression has hit them, so profits are lowered by adjusting values of tech2 bpos. They also stated numerous times, that ISSO operations are not tied to ISS and their 0.0 activities. They promised to return 5% and they do it every month.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.11 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Dr Slurm
I had a large lump of ISK when ISSO launched. I even considered investing in it. I'm glad I didn't now because I would be rather aggravated with the way it has been run so far.
If someone is actually happy with the way it is being run then they must have very low expectations.
Well I am not exactly happy (I would be if they managed to exceed 10% profit and thus pay over 5%), but also I am not unhappy. I expected to get 5% and I get 5%, I can sell my shares for same price I paid for them anytime I want.
So I guess it is a matter of expectations. I tend to be a pesimist, so getting stable 5% is good enough for me. If they managed to make stable 10%+ profits from 300B, I would be very surprised.
And reporting/communication? Who really cares about it besides few ppl here? Reports can be made up completly within few hours, their informational value is ZERO. I have no way to verify them, so it is kinda pointless to even read them. The only thing that matters is return and return is as I expected.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.14 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
i read that iss lost a mom in caod and the next month there was that mysterious 25 billion devaluation of isso bpos.
I thought everyone heard about invention and its effect on T2 BPO values by now. 
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.15 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Robacz
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
i read that iss lost a mom in caod and the next month there was that mysterious 25 billion devaluation of isso bpos.
I thought everyone heard about invention and its effect on T2 BPO values by now.
You do realize that ISSO wasn't supposed to be in the T2 market at all, right?
I realize that a lot of things changed after they got attacked and lost all their outposts. It did not affect ISSO directly, but it did affect their plans.
Anyway, they obviously had some T2 BPOs, therefore Invention caused some losses to them - that was my point. No mysterious motherships.
I guess you guys won't stop your anti-ISSO campaign anytime soon, but I have one question - when they launched their IPO, they asked for 500 Billion. This IPO said, that they will pay over 5% if they make 10%+ profits. Did you really believe that it is possible to make stable 10%+ profit from 500 Billion??
I did not, I expected to get 5% and I get it every month + I can sell my shares anytime.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.19 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: Robacz on 19/10/2007 07:43:56
Originally by: Shadarle
The fact that Stins saw the complaints and instead of answering them attempted to insult me...
Just out of curiosity, where did he attempt to insult you? I was not following entire thread, but I recall only one Stin's post - and that was single line post with no sign of any insult.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.20 19:51:00 -
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I don't know how you took his comment, but class it as an insult is quite harsh.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.21 22:34:00 -
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I see what you said, but I don't understand it. He mentioned 23B - total ISSO profit, not your profit. He only pointed out, that ISSO profit was not 13B, but 23B, therefore not same as yours.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.22 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Robacz
I see what you said, but I don't understand it. He mentioned 23B - total ISSO profit, not your profit. He only pointed out, that ISSO profit was not 13B, but 23B, therefore not same as yours.
Honestly, if you're not even going to read the thread why should anyone bother replying to you. That was explained way back.
Whatever you said in past posts doesn't change anything about Stins reply - he did not insult you. You twisted numers to be able to compare your profit with theirs, he replied on that by one line comment. Nowhere he implied you were lying about your 13B profit as you are trying to say.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.22 09:13:00 -
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Edited by: Robacz on 22/10/2007 09:14:40
Originally by: Shadarle
Twisting eh? Nice job trying to spin this.
I am not trying to spin anything, my point was/is: Stins did not insult you.
As for twisted numbers, they make 23B, you make 13B. Comparing part of their business to your business can be interesting to see efficiency, but that is all. If you want to compare, then use total numbers on both sides. If you do that, you will still make more than they do (by percentage), but with a lot lower capital. Also they are in 0.0, you are in empire. Your businesses are not easily comparable.
I think he answered your question even before you asked: "The main cause for this is our team simply had less time to spend on eve."
By the way, do you really think that 200 ISS people should be trading with ISSO money? In my opinion more people only causes more management, more risk, higher expenses and lower efficiency. Ideally 200B should be traded by 3-4 people at most to get best results.
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