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FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.03 14:20:00 - [1] I think its dumb that a interdictor can tank a dooms day device. according to the descriptions of these things they are supposed to be a castrophic destruction. IMO nothing under a capital should survive a blast no matter what resists it has. The damage on the ddd needs a boost.
Koryvarn Amarr Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.10.03 14:26:00 - [2] Obviously you have never been on the reciving end of a ddd. With 4 titans available, you can instakill everyone, every 15 minutes. Uhm, slightly over the top?
humperdink	Posted - 2007.10.03 14:28:00 - [3] how do u suggest ppl tackle them then nanocarriers with t2 small bubbles perhaps
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.03 14:55:00 - [4] its a titan it should take alot of planning and work to tackle a titan. multiple interdictors, some bubble and get blown up, next batch jump in. it certainly shouldnt be a small ship like that, that tackles a titan.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 14:55:00 - [5] Lol. It takes alot of skills and a very specialised setup to survive a DD blast in a dictor - stop whining kiddo, you're just jealous of -A-.
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:04:00 - [6] well kiddo, i am not jealous, i just think its dumb that a weapon that is described as godlike power can be tanked by a interdictor. oh and i see, you had to get out of iac, nice time to bail on your alliance.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:09:00 - [7] Originally by: FireAnt its a titan it should take alot of planning and work to tackle a titan. multiple interdictors, some bubble and get blown up, next batch jump in. it certainly shouldnt be a small ship like that, that tackles a titan. How do you jump in the next batch before the titan warp out? Doomsdays shouldn't even be in the game, imho. That can be cool in a RTS, but this is a MMO. ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
Belial02 Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:12:00 - [8] lol@that thread. Bitter much? Originally by: Omeega diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:22:00 - [9] Originally by: FireAnt well kiddo, i am not jealous, i just think its dumb that a weapon that is described as godlike power can be tanked by a interdictor. oh and i see, you had to get out of iac, nice time to bail on your alliance. Buhu bitter much? Our leaving had nothing to do with the current situation in catch. Cry more.
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:47:00 - [10] bitter jealous? are you people stupid? what is all this crap. the fact is a ship that small with that amount of hitpoints shouldnt be able to tank a doomsday.
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:52:00 - [11] Originally by: FireAnt bitter jealous? are you people stupid? what is all this crap. the fact is a ship that small with that amount of hitpoints shouldnt be able to tank a doomsday. What else can it do? Yup, not much. ----------------------------- "Oh, we're sorry, you had the 'NakedAmarrChicks' bit flagged in your account somehow." "Wait, why was there even a flag for that to begin with?" "..."
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Koryvarn Obviously you have never been on the reciving end of a ddd. With 4 titans available, you can instakill everyone, every 15 minutes. Uhm, slightly over the top? You don't know titans to well do you ? Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.03 15:57:00 - [13] sure it didnt. that is what is called bailing on your alliance when things are tough. 1. Emits a gigantic antimatter field, capable of obliterating everything in its path. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. 2. Righteous fury given form, this titanic ordnance rains a firestorm of destruction down upon its targets. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. 3. A beam of the Lord's holy light, designed to put sinners in their proper place. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. 4. Creates a gargantuan particle storm capable of efficiently wiping the field clean of enemies. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. a couple of key words in these discriptions 1.obliterating everything 2.titanic ordnance 3.sinners in their proper place 4.efficiently wiping the field clean of enemies I guess they should change the description to maybe something like 1.obliterating some stuff, haulers and frigs especially 2.titanic ordnance able to destroy even the toughest pods. 3.or just scratch the sheilds. 4. efficiently wiping the field clean of incoming missiles.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:05:00 - [14] Originally by: FireAnt sure it didnt. that is what is called bailing on your alliance when things are tough. Sorry , wrong. Now stop whining. And every battleship, CS and many HACS can be tanked for DD, so whats special about it?
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:09:00 - [15] The setup for surviving the blast is very specific and not very usefull for something else, so it's ok, that ppl who have adapted and fit accordingly survive it. Moaning otherwise is not. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:14:00 - [16] Originally by: FireAnt sure it didnt. that is what is called bailing on your alliance when things are tough. 1. Emits a gigantic antimatter field, capable of obliterating everything in its path. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. 2. Righteous fury given form, this titanic ordnance rains a firestorm of destruction down upon its targets. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. 3. A beam of the Lord's holy light, designed to put sinners in their proper place. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. 4. Creates a gargantuan particle storm capable of efficiently wiping the field clean of enemies. Note: you will be unable to jump for 10 minutes after activating the doomsday device. a couple of key words in these discriptions 1.obliterating everything 2.titanic ordnance 3.sinners in their proper place 4.efficiently wiping the field clean of enemies I guess they should change the description to maybe something like 1.obliterating some stuff, haulers and frigs especially 2.titanic ordnance able to destroy even the toughest pods. 3.or just scratch the sheilds. 4. efficiently wiping the field clean of incoming missiles. Usign the same POOR arguments you use. : Invulnerability field. By your logic, shouldn it make the ship invulnerable? Now go back to the cave. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
IKEELYOU	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:15:00 - [17] Edited by: IKEELYOU on 03/10/2007 16:15:36 Originally by: Kagura Nikon Invulnerability field. By your logic, shouldn it make the ship invulnerable? It should!
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:20:00 - [18] How does a dictor tank a doomsday? It can warp out, yes, but theres no damn way an interdictor of any form can tank one. Maybe if you stuck a full set of Centus x- EM hards on a sabre, then MAYBE it could tank Judgement, but I doubt it. Warping out does not constitute tanking something. --- Project Mayhem 2
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:20:00 - [19] Edited by: Sokratesz on 03/10/2007 16:21:44 Originally by: lofty29 How does a dictor tank a doomsday? It can warp out, yes, but theres no damn way an interdictor of any form can tank one. Maybe if you stuck a full set of Centus x- EM hards on a sabre, then MAYBE it could tank Judgement, but I doubt it. Warping out does not constitute tanking something. Lofty you're disappointing me. -A- tanked a Flycatcher against Gjallarhorn and Sabre can tank Judgement without faction gear, too.
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:52:00 - [20] exactly, those dictors can tank a freaking doomsday. has anyone read about titans and doomsday devices. they are supposed to destroy everything in range. i say it shouldnt destroy capitals, but pretty much anything under a bs for sure should die no matter what tank they have, and bs not super tanked specific should also die. that is the titans purpose in the game. to use the ddd. its not to be a hauler, or to attack pos, its a blob killer. with so few titans in game, when going against a alliance using a titan every dictor in the opposing gang will be tanked for it. especially if it doesnt take faction gear.
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:54:00 - [21] interdictor bubbles should stop warp, not jumping. There should be a capital jump scrambler that you put on cap ships to stop jumping.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:59:00 - [22] Edited by: Sokratesz on 03/10/2007 16:59:09 Originally by: FireAnt exactly, those dictors can tank a freaking doomsday. has anyone read about titans and doomsday devices. they are supposed to destroy everything in range. i say it shouldnt destroy capitals, but pretty much anything under a bs for sure should die no matter what tank they have, and bs not super tanked specific should also die. that is the titans purpose in the game. to use the ddd. its not to be a hauler, or to attack pos, its a blob killer. with so few titans in game, when going against a alliance using a titan every dictor in the opposing gang will be tanked for it. especially if it doesnt take faction gear. If they were 'supposed to destroy anything in range' they would do ~ damage, instead of a fixed number modified by skills. And go tell any alliance that has one that its not meant 'as a hauler', im sure they will happily give up on the 50bil/month that NPC trade routes make.
JenDen Caldari The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.10.03 17:08:00 - [23] Originally by: FireAnt its a titan it should take alot of planning and work to tackle a titan. It DID take a lot of planning for -A- to tackle that titan. It was a good and fair fight. All other comments are pointless. It's absolutely fine for a dictor to survive DD if it's fitted exclusively for this reason. Sig: StackNerfing * GangLinks
Veng3ance New Dawn Rising Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.10.03 17:52:00 - [24] Ok, im going to go out on a limb and completely agree with the op. A DICTOR tanking a doomsday? Granted it had faction gear. And it was an explosive DD but who gives a ****! Dictor should never be able to tank a titan. Period. Makes tackling a titan WAY to easy.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 17:55:00 - [25] Edited by: Sokratesz on 03/10/2007 17:56:01 Originally by: Veng3ance Ok, im going to go out on a limb and completely agree with the op. A DICTOR tanking a doomsday? Granted it had faction gear. And it was an explosive DD but who gives a ****! Dictor should never be able to tank a titan. Period. Makes tackling a titan WAY to easy. Well..no. Titan needs support and that support should be there to clear the way for it.. I supposed you didnt see Thulsa Doom warp in, DD, and warp back out in in 30 seconds?
Hamatitio Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:09:00 - [26] Thulsa Doom also went, apparently, ~600m/sec. Seeing as how it is unwebbable, and its DDD destroys all bubbles on the field, IMO it was probably more a matter of lag/desynch/fighter bumping than the dictor tanking it. Hijack this
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Hamatitio Thulsa Doom also went, apparently, ~600m/sec. Seeing as how it is unwebbable, and its DDD destroys all bubbles on the field, IMO it was probably more a matter of lag/desynch/fighter bumping than the dictor tanking it. Read the reply from seleene in the kill thread. It was the surviving dictor that did it.
Dracu1a Gallente Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:33:00 - [28] I dont think you can argue the point that you have dictors "fitted specifically for tanking doomsday". Think about what your saying though. Doesnt matter about the fit on a an interdictor. The fit didnt change the job it did. To prevent warp (and in this case jump). Any interdictor can do that. In all honesty that "special uber dd dictor" could probably perform the job of ANY other normal dictor you would have in gang. In my opinion the OP has a point. Interdictors should not be able to TANK a doomsday device. No matter the fitting. And correct me if im wrong, but I read you can tank a dictor to dd's with tech 2 gear? Anyone care to confirm?
Xilimyth Derlin OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:49:00 - [29] Edited by: Xilimyth Derlin on 03/10/2007 18:49:24 I think it's also dumb that a DDD would 100% pop anything other then a capital ship (as you suggest). Though you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. If that were the case... with the onset of more titans being launched monthly, eventually the game would get to the point where.... Well, whomever on the forums made that joke about starting in a Dreadnought instead of a rookie ship... you see where I'm going. You want a DDD to essentially invalidate every other non-capital ship class in that game, that's your opinion. Though I think most people, even other capital pilots, would not prefer that route.
WildSide Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.10.03 18:57:00 - [30] Edited by: WildSide on 03/10/2007 18:58:06 well...even I got a setup to tank a DD in a dictor...I dont think its overpowered,it require 2-3 shield extenders and got no ab/mwd, which means its gonna get massarcred by any real sniping hac like eagle/muninn or commandship. all u need is to have some hacs rdy to warp in to pop any suriving dictor on the battlefield. which isnt very bad idea if u allrdy got a titan in ure gang. maybe have a couple of dd tanking ureself hacs together with the titan aswell..dunno.that doesnt have to warp out. _______________________________ Vids produced by me
Odium47	Posted - 2007.10.03 19:00:00 - [31] FireAnt, dont struggle that much, for these people there is only one answer: "Zarathustra: How can you live knowing that someone can be immortal and you can't ?"
Zendoc InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.03 20:45:00 - [32] Just browsing this board and I had to do a double take when I saw this thread. I thought for sure you were being fececious and this was going to be a rant on how overpowered DDD was. I just had to stop in here and tell you how ridiculous your allegations are. What are you talking about DDD needs a nerf? You're nuts man. You're talking about a weapon that single handedly 1 shots FLEETS at a time. In order to survive a doomsday you have to be 100% specified to tank only that specific damage type, not to mention it would completley nerf the effectiveness of the rest of your ship (especially if it is an interdictor). Titans NEVER travel alone, I would hope that someone in the fleet the titan is traveling with is fitted with the opposite kind of damage of the titan's DDD and can easily pick off whatever targets might be fitted specifically for it.
Hamatitio Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.04 00:30:00 - [33] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Hamatitio Thulsa Doom also went, apparently, ~600m/sec. Seeing as how it is unwebbable, and its DDD destroys all bubbles on the field, IMO it was probably more a matter of lag/desynch/fighter bumping than the dictor tanking it. Read the reply from seleene in the kill thread. It was the surviving dictor that did it. I did read the kill, if you read ETs post, Thulsa Doom was not in a bubble for (19 or 40 seconds i don't quite remember - each one is more than enough time) While unbubbled he was bumped, thus, death. I won't fight the fact that the dictor did play a big part in it, but a minimum 19 second window is more than enough time to warp a fresh dictor in off the battlefield, I don't think its that big of a deal. That is just my opinion tho, you have yours. You won't change mine, I won't change yours, so I suppose its a waste of time :) Hijack this
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:13:00 - [34] Thulsa's top speed was about 250-280 in a flat out run. He was not a total nano set up. Not even close. In terms of damage, I do think the DD could do with a SLIGHT boost. Certianly enough to clear the field of frigates. Also, it's hardly the ultimate weapon people make it out to be. I've hit fleets with 55 battleships in them and gotten eight kills. Eight out of fifty-five. Regardless, IMO the DD has two functions: First strike / system defense weapon Last resort / escape weapon I've been on both sides of these things multiple times and they should be a bit more powerful than they are. A 10-20% increase to the base damage or having the skill increase damage by 5% per level maybe wouldn't be such a bad idea. I mean... it's a DOOMSDAY weapon. People should want to get off the damn grid when it goes off don't you think? - THIS FLEET FOR RENT!
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:20:00 - [35] DD on my op9non should be NERFED. They should not even be able to kill anything Bigger than a cruiser. Its ridiculous that a ship can make all non capitals ship useless. TIANS are the worse thing in this game, EVER!!!! If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Belial02 Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:21:00 - [36] No, we'd rather tank it, then kill it. Originally by: Omeega diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
burning raven omen.	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:24:00 - [37] Edited by: burning raven on 04/10/2007 13:24:43 to say a t2 fitted dictor can tank it is crazy but what about when these dictor cruisers come in, same thing with them i guess, just they wont require as much of a dedicated anti dd setup as they will have a higher hp buffer anyway
Zosana	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:26:00 - [38] Originally by: Kagura Nikon DD on my op9non should be NERFED. They should not even be able to kill anything Bigger than a cruiser. Its ridiculous that a ship can make all non capitals ship useless. TIANS are the worse thing in this game, EVER!!!! Boohoo.
B0rn2KiLL DEATHFUNK Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:26:00 - [39] i foresee, t2 battleships > titan. oh the whining that will occur after the first titan gets ganked by a flock of those --- Originally by: Oveur It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
goodby4u Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:29:00 - [40] Edited by: goodby4u on 04/10/2007 13:29:35 The DD is designed to wipe the floor with any noncapital ship,it was an anti-blobbing device...However people have adapted. Tbh i dont mind this,if a fleet isnt DD proof then they die,and even if they are they usually dont pack reppers so your own fleet should be able to pick off the half-armored fools. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:31:00 - [41] Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 04/10/2007 13:29:35 The DD is designed to wipe the floor with any noncapital ship,it was an anti-blobbing device...However people have adapted. Tbh i dont mind this,if a fleet isnt DD proof then they die,and even if they are they usually dont pack reppers so your own fleet should be able to pick off the half-armored fools. Killing all capitals is not anti blobing. because the huge blobs of today have as many capitals as non capitals ships. Just look at FAT fight of yesterday. If titans must kill all sub capital, then they must kill all capitals too. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:53:00 - [42] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 04/10/2007 13:29:35 The DD is designed to wipe the floor with any noncapital ship,it was an anti-blobbing device...However people have adapted. Tbh i dont mind this,if a fleet isnt DD proof then they die,and even if they are they usually dont pack reppers so your own fleet should be able to pick off the half-armored fools. Killing all capitals is not anti blobing. because the huge blobs of today have as many capitals as non capitals ships. Just look at FAT fight of yesterday. If titans must kill all sub capital, then they must kill all capitals too. Why kill the caps? Caps and specific tanked bs i can see tanking a ddd. this thread was about interdictors tanking a ddd. Flycatcher hitpoints = 2002 raven hitpoints = 20782 phoenix hitpoints = 531250 no way in hell a 2002 hitpoint ship should tank a doomsday. and you are a idiot for saying caps should die also.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:13:00 - [43] Edited by: Kagura Nikon on 04/10/2007 14:13:27 Originally by: FireAnt Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 04/10/2007 13:29:35 The DD is designed to wipe the floor with any noncapital ship,it was an anti-blobbing device...However people have adapted. Tbh i dont mind this,if a fleet isnt DD proof then they die,and even if they are they usually dont pack reppers so your own fleet should be able to pick off the half-armored fools. Killing all capitals is not anti blobing. because the huge blobs of today have as many capitals as non capitals ships. Just look at FAT fight of yesterday. If titans must kill all sub capital, then they must kill all capitals too. Why kill the caps? Caps and specific tanked bs i can see tanking a ddd. this thread was about interdictors tanking a ddd. Flycatcher hitpoints = 2002 raven hitpoints = 20782 phoenix hitpoints = 531250 no way in hell a 2002 hitpoint ship should tank a doomsday. and you are a idiot for saying caps should die also. I am talking that to people saying all BS should die too. And youa re an idiot for calling someoen idiot for using a exageration. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 04/10/2007 13:24:51 Thulsa's top speed was about 250-280 in a flat out run. He was not a total nano set up. Not even close. In terms of damage, I do think the DD could do with a SLIGHT boost. Certianly enough to clear the field of frigates. Also, it's hardly the ultimate weapon people make it out to be. I've hit fleets with 55 battleships in them and gotten eight kills. Eight out of fifty-five. Regardless, IMO the DD has two functions: First strike / system defense weapon Last resort / escape weapon I've been on both sides of these things multiple times and they should be a bit more powerful than they are. It's a DOOMSDAY weapon. People should want to get off the damn grid when it goes off don't you think? I could agree with a boost to them, provided everyone on grid gets a warning timer..'Shrike has initiated his Doomsday Device which will go off in 30 seconds' so you get at least some time to gtfo. Paradox V2.0 is recruiting!
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 15:26:00 - [45] I like that, while most large scale fleet fights where the doomsday has a chance to really shine are completely unplayable due to lag, but people still argue about balance. When you theorycraft about doomsdays, you should take into account that many times, server conditions do not allow for a warp out, hence tanking them isn't really overpowered.
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 15:27:00 - [46] Originally by: FireAnt Why kill the caps? Caps and specific tanked bs i can see tanking a ddd. this thread was about interdictors tanking a ddd. Flycatcher hitpoints = 2002 raven hitpoints = 20782 phoenix hitpoints = 531250 no way in hell a 2002 hitpoint ship should tank a doomsday. and you are a idiot for saying caps should die also. Even if the DD would be boosted, even if it costs a couple bil, they will find a way to have an interdictor tank the DD. It's just too valuable. Remember that cruiser interdictors are coming as well. - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
Kailiao The Malevolent The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.10.04 16:03:00 - [47] Remove all capitals from eve, problem solved, imho, they schould not have been added to the game in the first place.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:34:00 - [48] Originally by: Kailiao Remove all capitals from eve, problem solved, imho, they schould not have been added to the game in the first place. Good luck killing deathstar poses with your BS fleet Paradox V2.0 is recruiting!
goodby4u Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:50:00 - [49] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 04/10/2007 13:29:35 The DD is designed to wipe the floor with any noncapital ship,it was an anti-blobbing device...However people have adapted. Tbh i dont mind this,if a fleet isnt DD proof then they die,and even if they are they usually dont pack reppers so your own fleet should be able to pick off the half-armored fools. Killing all capitals is not anti blobing. because the huge blobs of today have as many capitals as non capitals ships. Just look at FAT fight of yesterday. If titans must kill all sub capital, then they must kill all capitals too. The titan was designed way back when capitals were somewhat hard to come by and had a large lack of hitpoints. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:00:00 - [50] Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 04/10/2007 13:29:35 The DD is designed to wipe the floor with any noncapital ship,it was an anti-blobbing device...However people have adapted. Tbh i dont mind this,if a fleet isnt DD proof then they die,and even if they are they usually dont pack reppers so your own fleet should be able to pick off the half-armored fools. Killing all capitals is not anti blobing. because the huge blobs of today have as many capitals as non capitals ships. Just look at FAT fight of yesterday. If titans must kill all sub capital, then they must kill all capitals too. The titan was designed way back when capitals were somewhat hard to come by and had a large lack of hitpoints. I just posted that to raise the question> Why must be a clearly defined barrier where all survive or all die happens? That is very bad for gameplay. I for instance think DD should be WEAKER and be able to be fired more often. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Digiblast Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.04 21:02:00 - [51] What the Titans really need is a BOOST. Make them able to do the same damage as the dreads while not have to go into siege mode. Either Make the 6-7 turrets or launchers do the same ammount of dps as a dread in siege mode or 2 times that.(Guns whould have no tracking penelty) Make them able to tank like dreads/carriers like they do in siege/triage mode. Remove the Gang bonuses to have effect in system and make them only work if you are in the same grid as the leader. This "whould" should make these beasts to show up in every battle where they should show up. It's a shame that players on the lvl like Shrike, Evil Thug, Thulsa Doom, Orange Species and ChowDown (+ other dead titan pilots and unknown) to have to hide like some paranoied Sniper on a safe, cloaked and wait for a good moment to warp in and strike and run like a scared rabit back to his hole. AND cloaking device on a TITAN I mean come on... I demand a cloaking device for outposts and posses! In fact I whould like to see that only Recons or Coverts ships to be able to cloaked since they are made to do so.

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