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Ignacy Isogin 0	Posted - 2012.01.22 16:39:00 - [1] - Quote going to start exploration on my alt soonish, will mostly be running gurista sites. what ship would you recommend? my main i flying amarr and caldari and id prefer minmatar ship on this char but id consider flying other aswell as i got no combat or ship skills whatsoever apart from skills for guardian and hulk
Lili Lu 144	Posted - 2012.01.22 16:45:00 - [2] - Quote Not that I have much experience with exploration, but I think you need to say a bit more in your op about things like, What security space? What kind of sites? Seeing as you fly a Hulk are you just looking for mining sites? If combat sites, see the first question, and will your alt be solo or with your main or buddies to help you complete the sites? I think with some of those questions answered you will get more and better responses.
Ignacy Isogin 0	Posted - 2012.01.22 16:49:00 - [3] - Quote im looking to solo all high-sec gurista combat and radar sites
Brutor Slavechild 1039248223 0	Posted - 2012.01.22 17:11:00 - [4] - Quote Cheetah/Cane and Cheetah/Mael are wat I use in null, depending on the difficulty. Sometimes I have to bring a friend. Hisec sites are prob. easier to scan by a long shot, but I still wouldn't do everything in one ship unless it was a t3.
Jason McCoy Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.01.22 18:12:00 - [5] - Quote i did tons of sites with an armor rupture. I rigged it with a scan rig, trimark and a salvaging rig. I had a code breaker, hacking module in the mids and cap rechargers, one gyro, one dcu and one armor repper in the lows. Full flight of hobbies I also had one salvager and one probe launcher on the highs plus the guns. I cant remember the exact fit, but thats the jist of it. It was/is still to this day awesome for running high sec sites.
Jesus Rambo Friendship is Magic The Laughing Men 34	Posted - 2012.01.22 18:19:00 - [6] - Quote Worm or Gila will work great for you.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 349	Posted - 2012.01.22 18:21:00 - [7] - Quote Ishtar for any sort of exploration. you dont need a covops either. all in one package: range, speed, dps, all the required mods. you can solo anything up to 8/10 DED.
Brutor Slavechild 1039248223 0	Posted - 2012.01.22 19:58:00 - [8] - Quote Hungry Eyes wrote: Ishtar for any sort of exploration. you dont need a covops either. all in one package: range, speed, dps, all the required mods. you can solo anything up to 8/10 DED. Curious as to how long it takes for you to find sites in null like that and what your astrometric skills/equipment are. I am fairly close to perfect skills and gear, minus implants, and I have found scanning on an unbonus ship too frustrating to bother.
Ruvin Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent 7	Posted - 2012.01.23 13:24:00 - [9] - Quote for high sec exploration all in one amarr , Arbitrator can handle that . Im using one . Found the loadouts on battleclinic and changed it a bit . After going for pilgrim / t3 .
Roime UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS 126	Posted - 2012.01.23 14:01:00 - [10] - Quote Ishtar or Tengu are the best ships for Guristas hisec due to their resists and general excellency in the exploration business. Tengu has the edge as it can get scan probe bonuses, and therefore being the all-in-one solution. I use a scanner alt with the Ishtar, I like the extra flexibilty dual boxing brings. There was a recent thread about Ishtar, look for fits in there. That said, I grew bored of Guristas hisec very quickly, drop is often bad and the area is crowded. Also, you can't shoot the competition, which is maddening and perverse.
mxzf Shovel Bros 380	Posted - 2012.01.23 16:46:00 - [11] - Quote In my experience, for highsec exploration, the best ships (in a bit of order, though it varies a bit based on the specific area you're exploring) are: T3s (especially the Tengu) Ishtar/Gila/Pilgrim some pirate frigs/most AFs T1 drone boat cruisers (Arbi/Vexor) With decent probing skills, any of the above can work well at exploring. What you choose to fly depends more on your budget and skill set (though T3s are the acknowledged top-of-the-line due to their great tank+DPS+ability to fit an expanded launcher without gimping the fit).
XXSketchxx Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 121	Posted - 2012.01.23 18:04:00 - [12] - Quote Ignacy Isogin wrote: im looking to solo all high-sec gurista combat and radar sites Tengu with overdrive injectors and afterburner and microwarpdrive. Trust me, you'll need all of that.
XXSketchxx Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 121	Posted - 2012.01.23 18:12:00 - [13] - Quote Brutor Slavechild 1039248223 wrote: Hungry Eyes wrote: Ishtar for any sort of exploration. you dont need a covops either. all in one package: range, speed, dps, all the required mods. you can solo anything up to 8/10 DED. Curious as to how long it takes for you to find sites in null like that and what your astrometric skills/equipment are. I am fairly close to perfect skills and gear, minus implants, and I have found scanning on an unbonus ship too frustrating to bother. With rangefinding 4, sisters gear, a 6% hardwiring implant, and gravity capacitor rigs, you shouldn't have any problems probing in an unbonused ship.
Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 106	Posted - 2012.01.23 18:19:00 - [14] - Quote Tengu and/or other T3s (depending mostly where you work) is a good goal to end for exploration in general. If you are just starting out, an assault frigate is actually a great platform which can run all highsec sites fairly quickly (important because of competition) you'd need to get practice so you can scan things down fast, in highsec a dedicated scanner helps but is not a must. My personal favorite - the ishkur, which works well in Gurista space (jammed or not it kills everything!) and it happens to be a perky little ship to have around. Have fun.
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 675	Posted - 2012.01.23 18:35:00 - [15] - Quote Waaaaay back in the day when I was allowed back in high sec (briefly), I did high sec sites for a while in an Ishkur. An Ishtar would probably work even better. A Tengu seems like it would actually be suboptimal because there are so many frigates. -Liang Ed: Also, pretty sure the Ishtar > Gila for this particular purpose. The Kin/Thm resists on an Ishtar have to be seen to be believed. :P Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
stoicfaux 671	Posted - 2012.01.23 18:44:00 - [16] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: A Tengu seems like it would actually be suboptimal because there are so many frigates. Ungroup the launchers... You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 675	Posted - 2012.01.23 19:08:00 - [17] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: A Tengu seems like it would actually be suboptimal because there are so many frigates. Ungroup the launchers... I wasn't worried about overkill. Tengus just aren't great when all you have to kill are frigates. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Kraven Stark Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.01.23 20:05:00 - [18] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: stoicfaux wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: A Tengu seems like it would actually be suboptimal because there are so many frigates. Ungroup the launchers... I wasn't worried about overkill. Tengus just aren't great when all you have to kill are frigates. -Liang This has been my biggest annoyance using the Tengu. I have been thinking about training up Target Painting skills for this. Good idea or no?
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 675	Posted - 2012.01.23 20:09:00 - [19] - Quote Kraven Stark wrote: This has been my biggest annoyance using the Tengu. I have been thinking about training up Target Painting skills for this. Good idea or no? I found painters to be extremely frustrating with the Tengu. When you paint a frigate it dies pretty quick, but OTOH you have to paint every single one. I don't know if its really worth fitting less than 2 painters on a Tengu - just so you can swap them out fast enough to make use of them. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
yer mammy Derp Inc 17	Posted - 2012.01.23 20:47:00 - [20] - Quote made billions in a loki, from just blitzing gurista 4/10s.
Your Messiah ObamaNation Inc 2	Posted - 2012.01.23 21:47:00 - [21] - Quote Get a Tengu, it's your all-in-one high-sec anything boat pretty much. For exploration I use this: [Tengu, Hi-Sec Explorer] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner XXXX Field II XXXX Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Target Painter II Codebreaker I Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst This has around 97 probe strength. With launchers ungrouped I one-shot most basic frigs with standard scourge. I bring some Fury just in case or for overseer, and of-course a couple Deep Space probes. I skip arch/salvage sites in hi-sec, hence no analyzer.
Kneebone K-H Light Industries 0	Posted - 2012.01.23 21:49:00 - [22] - Quote Proteus if you want true solo power, if not scanner/HAC make the best combo. Protues can put out around 400DPS with drones and a few guns, gets the scan/cpu bonus on the Emergent subsystem, can use a tractor/salvager in the highs as well as a code breaker/analyser in the mids with an AB and a cap mod (Large Battery is what I use) and you can fit the tank in the lows fairly easily. I have not yet come across a site I cannot do in this setup. The drawback is the 100 bandwidth on the drones, still 4 Grades work fine, just back them up with mediums and lights. You will want to include the hard to scan MAG sites as well. The harder it is to scan, the better the loot and you will get T2 salvage from them in many cases. If you can hit it easily, skip it.
Razor Blue Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate 9	Posted - 2012.01.23 22:44:00 - [23] - Quote If you have another char for scanning and opening cans then maybe AML Navy Caracal for starters? It chews frigs like crazy and there are some highsec sites that wont allow T2 cruisers or BC. I think T3 for highsec scanning would be an overkill, Drake is good enough. Its cheaper to take in to lowsec escalations too.
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2012.01.23 22:44:00 - [24] - Quote Kneebone wrote: Proteus if you want true solo power, if not scanner/HAC make the best combo. Protues can put out around 400DPS with drones and a few guns, gets the scan/cpu bonus on the Emergent subsystem, can use a tractor/salvager in the highs as well as a code breaker/analyser in the mids with an AB and a cap mod (Large Battery is what I use) and you can fit the tank in the lows fairly easily. I have not yet come across a site I cannot do in this setup. The drawback is the 100 bandwidth on the drones, still 4 Grades work fine, just back them up with mediums and lights. You will want to include the hard to scan MAG sites as well. The harder it is to scan, the better the loot and you will get T2 salvage from them in many cases. If you can hit it easily, skip it. How much of a tank is a good tank on a proteus for highsec sites? I have a fit for dual reps that was borrowed from the ishtar but it seems overtanked. Also running in highsec, so 4/10's at best.
drdxie Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2012.01.23 22:58:00 - [25] - Quote I used a gila before I moved to a tengu. Gila is quick to train for and has enough high and med slots to fit all you'll ever need, can fit a nice passive tank and a host of drones. I used t1 garde's with 1 omnidirectional tracking link, works like a charm. Drop the sentry's and orbit them. Anything get close, or you need to move switch to other drones. Use a launcher on the high just to grab agro.
Kneebone K-H Light Industries 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 15:42:00 - [26] - Quote Tyberius Franklin wrote: How much of a tank is a good tank on a proteus for highsec sites? I have a fit for dual reps that was borrowed from the ishtar but it seems overtanked. Also running in highsec, so 4/10's at best. If you are sticking with Caldari/Galle space, just fit a MAR II, Kinetic and Thermal hardner and you are fine. Should give you close to a 500dps active tank and with an AB you will be moving over 600m/s and tanking anything larger you come across with speed. If you want some more DPS and want to get up close, switch to blasters instead of rails. I typically fit a Mag Stab and Tracking Enhancer in the lows and stay at 20km which is optimal for 250's and you can pop frigs very easy at that range.
Kneebone K-H Light Industries 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 15:49:00 - [27] - Quote Razor Blue wrote: If you have another char for scanning and opening cans then maybe AML Navy Caracal for starters? It chews frigs like crazy and there are some highsec sites that wont allow T2 cruisers or BC. I think T3 for highsec scanning would be an overkill, Drake is good enough. Its cheaper to take in to lowsec escalations too. Expect that the T3's can switch to a covert cloak setup and breeze through lowsec without a second though whil eputting out as much DPS as the Drake.
Wacktopia Noir. 149	Posted - 2012.01.25 09:26:00 - [28] - Quote Hungry Eyes wrote: Ishtar for any sort of exploration. you dont need a covops either. all in one package: range, speed, dps, all the required mods. you can solo anything up to 8/10 DED. Hell yeah! Ishtar all the way. I'd only ever consider swapping it out for a T3. Guns are only for close-in scram rats really and watch out for Angel dps. Over 500dps, can kite rats all day long and hammer through them with sentries, good tank if you do need it, low/null capable. Note: Combat site fit but you can stick a code breaker etc in your hold and swap out if you want/need. [Ishtar, Plex/PVE] 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Improved Cloaking Device II Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Medium Armor Repairer II True Sansha Reflective Plating N-Type Explosive Hardener I Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Garde II x5 Bouncer II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Apparently we're getting censored now.

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