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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:21:00 -
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1) Change invention from need T1 stuffs to make T2 BPCs to need T2 item and normal R&D ingredient to reverse engineer to make T2 BPCs.
Prices can be more dynamic due to BPO holders and not solely due to mass inventors.
2) Promote more incentives to player killings through skill and not through blobbings. Player killings should not be only about territory and worthless loot.
Skillful killings should be rewarded.
When you pod-kill a player with more than 2M SP, 5% SP of the highest ranked skill are taken away randomly from the podded player. The SP loss will be redistributed to killers who appear on killmails.
More incentives to small group engagements. Blobs will remain as territorial purposes. Newbs get to level up quickly if they try their luck engaging players.
Players with less than 2M SP will not get SP transfer even if they pod kill older players. In any case when a newb player is in a vet gang, SP transfer for the whole gang is nullified. Killed players will also not lose SP in this case.
Give a chance to new players to catch up vets and give more reason to go small gangs.
3) Low-secs bastardization because they are useless. No point to have low sec because you cant defend or control the space. No bubbles in low-secs so remove them via changing low-secs to high-secs and null-secs.
Make the space like a chess or checker board. Choke points are everywhere between high-null borders. Make it so there are 70% null-secs and 30% high-secs. It would sort of make a newb island in the middle but bigger than it is now because low-secs are changed to highs and nulls.
Everyone would be happy. Players who do not like null-secs can live in high-secs. Bubbles will work everywhere except in high-secs. Sentries and Concord are found in high-secs.
Care to comment? Please be constructive. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
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Bosie
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:26:00 -
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Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is EN |

Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire level up quickly

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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:30:00 -
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"fixing the game"
1) Stop people from purchasing characters.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
I think he never left, just had a change of heart.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:39:00 -
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So...
You think invention should already require a t2 item to invent? Riiight. Make invention harder. I should need a rook to be able to make more rooks. You're totally right, invention is way overpowered and those cartel running inventors need a nerf. Great plan. I can see why you suggested it.
You think making people lose SP when they die no matter what will reduce blobbing? Yes. Now that I'll lose SP I'm going to jump right out there and fight solo. Great plan. I can see why you suggested it.
You want to remove low sec so it's all high sec and 0.0. So it's either bubble or concord safety. Yes, that will make everyone happy. Great plan. I can see why you suggested it.
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jokerb
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:46:00 -
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wow.. what happened to the old Jenny?
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:51:00 -
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"Newbs get to level up quickly if they try their luck engaging players."
Level what???
On a slightly less sarcastic note, there might be some merit in 'scoring' kills on the new kill mail/kill board system. e.g pop a t1 barge with 70 of your mates on the kill mail 'score' a low number of points - pop a HAC with your trusty T1 cruiser solo scores a higher number of points.
Other than that little to see here.
C.
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Salvis Tallan
Gallente The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:55:00 -
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Um #1 is so flawed. How are we gonna get tech 3? Tech 3 is going to be invention only, and if it requires a tech 3 item... where will you get it from? Invention is wonderful how it is, and will be getting better with rev 3. Not to mention the point of invention is to not rely in tech 2 bpo holders. If you were to make invention NEED a tech 2 item, they just raise their prices, and inventors now have to pay more to invent an item, so their price rises, and we are back to there we were before. ------
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:07:00 -
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Must say id like to see a reduction in Blob warfare, my last death at 19 involved parties just to kill a tempest!
In fact every death ive had are due to ridiculous numbers. Gets alittle boring and lame because i dont want to be in a blob personally.
So im with you on that one. -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3
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Morn Judith
Caldari Sovereigns of Destiny Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:24:00 -
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I don't even have to read this to know it's worthless.
Stop pretending to be cool! Everyone knows you're not the real Jenny. You can't BUY credibility. FFS.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
I think he never left, just had a change of heart.
She, fyi  ---
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:46:00 -
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what this game really needs is more lofty
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Megadon on 04/10/2007 00:48:50
Did you just start playing and then decide to post?
...because your suggestions sound like noob drivel.
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Uberstank
Caldari Freelancer Corperation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire crap
diaf
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
I think he never left, just had a change of heart.
She, fyi 
Proof or you know what! 
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Sixtina KL
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
Ultrasigned...
What happened to the good old Jenny who used to whine about Gallentean people?  __________________________________
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
x2.
Bellum Eternus [Vid]Blood Corsairs - Day One |

Rilder
Caldari THC LTD Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Complete post of crud
Whoever you are you need to go back to world of warcraft, NOW. --
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:23:00 -
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I am serious in my post and I do think my post is credible. I post with my main! 
Please do not post if you have nothing better to say than to discredit me or the game I love. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |

Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: MITSUK0 "fixing the game"
1) Stop people from purchasing characters.
Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts |

Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.06 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Please do not post if you have nothing better to say than to discredit me or the game I love.
Rats! Cut off at the get-go! 
T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers | Eve GUI Tweaks |

General Apocalypse
Amarr The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.10.06 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
I think he never left, just had a change of heart.
Nee she left. She posted only onace ever again . Syaing tat she'll kill some guys whit her bare hands .
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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Solant
Minmatar Ventis Secundis R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.06 06:31:00 -
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There is no way you can incorporate an SP based "experience" grind to EVE without fundamentally breaking the game. On paper it seems like a creative idea, and I will give it that, but in practise it will be exploited to the mass detriment of the game, and will change PVP into a much more WCS-laden affair. People are already big pussies in this game when it comes to PVP.. why encourage that?
I've always been a supporter of most of the stuff you put out there, but this time I'm gonna have to side with reason- this change would kill the game.
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Sorlac
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Posted - 2007.10.06 07:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sorlac on 06/10/2007 07:00:41
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire ... and I do think...
After reading the OP that is debatable.
I do have to thank you though after a rough night at work where it seemed everything went to hell in a hand basket your post did give me a good laugh; which I really needed.
But as someone else said if people are going to start losing SP from being killed its just going to promote even bigger blobs, becuase people are not going to want to have to keep relearning the same skills over and over again.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.06 07:21:00 -
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In the original post.
Players with less than 2M SP will not get SP transfer even if they pod kill older players. In any case when a newb player is in a vet gang, SP transfer for the whole gang is nullified. Killed players will also not lose SP in this case.
Blobbers will not get any SP transfer. Podded player will also not lose SP. Don't tell me that this community can't read anymore? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |

Frug
Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.06 07:30:00 -
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Yeah why don't you email kieron with that and not make us have to see your suggestions.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.06 10:15:00 -
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I miss old jenny.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.10.06 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I am serious in my post and I do think my post is credible. I post with someone else's main I purchased! 
FTFY.
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mallina
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 10:44:00 -
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Whatever happened to the old Jenny posts? used to get them every week, then they just stopped.. ---
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.10.06 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie Bring back Jenny Spitfire MK I!
qft ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |

Sartaron
Amarr Tetragrammaton
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:42:00 -
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So you want to turn eve-online to cannibalism-online because you believe that some of your victims experience might get transfered to you? Shall we all eat frozen corpses then?
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Despot
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:53:00 -
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LOL what a bunch of crap.
Start playing, do invention get your sp up and then come and make this post.
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Flaming Lemming
Caldari Puppeteer Press
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sartaron So you want to turn eve-online to cannibalism-online because you believe that some of your victims experience might get transfered to you? Shall we all eat frozen corpses then?
Nah, just need to suck their blood...it's the whole White Wolf merger, you know?
The OP...smells heavily of trollbait, don't feed the troll. No such thing as bad press! |

Esmenet
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Posted - 2007.10.06 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: MITSUK0 "fixing the game"
1) Stop people from purchasing characters.
The only good idea in this thread.
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Darklord Deathbringer
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Posted - 2007.10.06 17:40:00 -
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What do you guys think of makeing pod kills a permament kill for the player killed? Wouldent that be the real definition of PVP in a game. Mabye make it so the person killed can "will" his personal posetions and ISK to another player beforehand. Just an idea ive been thinking about
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Grapez
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Posted - 2007.10.06 17:41:00 -
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I thought Jenny spat something else?
In other news, I kind of like the idea of dynamically losing and gaining SP. I think it would make the game a lot more unpredictable. Is your 0.0 alliance losing battle after battle? After so many poddings, you'll actually have to leave, since you wouldn't be able to compete without cruiser 5. To compensate, CCP could double or triple the hourly SP gain.
And come on, SP isn't everything. It's just a game, and in before flame. @º¬íí-T«+ºH for all your political humor needs |

Kern Hotha
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.06 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: MITSUK0 "fixing the game"
1) Stop people from purchasing characters.
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lolzor
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Posted - 2007.10.06 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: MITSUK0 "fixing the game"
1) Stop people from purchasing characters.
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generalswapzor
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Posted - 2007.10.06 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: generalswapzor on 06/10/2007 18:49:47
Quote: When you pod-kill a player with more than 2M SP, 5% SP of the highest ranked skill are taken away randomly from the podded player. The SP loss will be redistributed to killers who appear on killmails.
lol, are you nuts or what? So.... lets say a 10m sp player with maxed dictor skills kills a 50m sp player (also with maxed dictor skills)... both fighted in the same ship, so you just get sp from it even if you are as good in the ship as he is. wonderfull idea *omg*
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Sky Marshal
Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Marshal on 06/10/2007 20:31:36 Edited by: Sky Marshal on 06/10/2007 20:30:02
Quote: 2) Promote more incentives to player killings through skill and not through blobbings.
[In the near future, when this rule is applied]
Hum... Ok so... I don't want to lose my SP. If I am pod-killed too often, I will lose MONTHS of gaming (or work, whatever), and I will not see interest on EvE ever. If at least CCP has reduced drastically all skill training time...
So, or I stay in my Station and do mining sometimes, or I return in Empire, but I have to fight for my alliance, so what can I do... Ah yes, I can create a new character !
Lesser that 2M SP, excellent, I am not concerned by the rule. I can still fight in a Kestrel. Every player are important in the battlefield !
Everyone do this anyway today to avoid risks. Risks are accepted, as long this don't need too much time to repair, but this is not more the case. We see sometimes bigger ships but they can't resist at a +150 player focus , and the KM modification permit at each killer to be reported ^^
But CCP still sucks and can't reduce the lag, same if there are only 3500+ frigate players in the local The server often crashs, and I pay 15€ a month for that, pffff...
At least, maybe that I can crush gatecamp or small gangs with a simple Caracal. Travel my stuff in 0.0 would be more easy.
[Stopping stupid dream]
Ok I go out ^^ -----> [ Exit ] 
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Karanth
Gallente Crazy 88's
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Posted - 2007.10.06 22:16:00 -
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I wasn't aware that the failtrain made a stop at Jenny's house. Bring back the old Jenny! All that's left...
There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of *us* left! -Rauth
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iiOs
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.06 22:25:00 -
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your ideas blow
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KKhanid Queen
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:56:00 -
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STOP POSTING
The game is fine. The only problem is CCP buffing it up for carebears, what makes this game great is its hard nature. You SHOUDNT be safe anywhere apart from when your docked
+ CCP need to stop nerfing when people start whining... (Their only whining because they just lost against it) We need mods to Counter them not just nerf them. Sooner or later everything will be boring and the same. All races will be completely the same. No races ship will have the edge.
IMO POS warfare is 100% FINE. To all the whiners who dont want it: DONT PARITITPATE IN IT.
Thats my rabblings that is all
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