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Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:54:00 - [1] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 05/10/2007 21:54:53 So let me get this straight. Six turrets, no split weapons 288m sig radius (!!!!) Covert Ops cloak and Covert Ops Cyno generator FIVE mid slots (!!!!!) while keeping the 7 lows (!!!!!!!) Get to keep the 175m3 drone bay Why would I ever want to fly a Typhoon again? -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Adqam Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:55:00 - [2] Cost and insurability? -- I like cheese.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:56:00 - [3] Who can hit the frickin' thing? It's as small as a BC! -- Guile can always trump hardware --
tarin adur Gallente Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:56:00 - [4] Edited by: tarin adur on 05/10/2007 21:57:30 Why don't we wait until the bonuses and the ship itself are actually released before calling it a Solopwnmobile/crap k.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:57:00 - [5] I'm not complaining. I can't wait!!! -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Amy Wang	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:59:00 - [6] - stats might not be final anyway - no bonuses known yet - 3-400 mil pricetag with a insurance payout of 100 mil - why would you want to fly a typhoon in the first place? :P
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.05 21:59:00 - [7] Yep, the best slot layout ever for a ship (and race) clearly designed to shield tank, that the community has been asking for better slot layout or HP distribution for since day 1. Head, meet desk. Desk, head. We can only hope this is one of those things that gets changed. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.10.05 22:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Amy Wang - no bonuses known yet It's a pretty safe bet one of them WON'T be torpedo ROF. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2007.10.06 02:40:00 - [9] Originally by: Amy Wang - stats might not be final anyway - no bonuses known yet - 3-400 mil pricetag with a insurance payout of 100 mil - why would you want to fly a typhoon in the first place? :P The Phoon is a Pwnmobile with a arseload of Sp-- I think this ship will get nerfed b4 it this Tq.. -Yarr-
Jack Target Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.10.06 10:58:00 - [10] Edited by: Jack Target on 06/10/2007 10:59:33 I'm really looking forward to this ship! Based on what we know already, how would you fit it? Should it be speed and agility fitted with shields, or have armor fittings with a web and scram?
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2007.10.06 11:03:00 - [11] because the phoon is gimped, ccp in there wisedom & amazing "balancing" skills have decided to make the pather pwn snip Sas has spoken this tread shall be locked.
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.10.06 11:04:00 - [12] Its got the weapon slots the phoon badly need's and it give's us a fast AC ship at last. Maelstorm is to slow and tempest is slow compaired to a typhoon. !
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.06 11:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 05/10/2007 21:54:53 So let me get this straight. Six turrets, no split weapons 288m sig radius (!!!!) Covert Ops cloak and Covert Ops Cyno generator FIVE mid slots (!!!!!) while keeping the 7 lows (!!!!!!!) Get to keep the 175m3 drone bay Why would I ever want to fly a Typhoon again? Why will anyone fly the panther when you can fly the Sin. Gallente get another solo pwn mobile, they minas well have giving the damn thing fighters its got everything else you could ever want. -------------------------- Piwate Bunny Wuv
Lady Rayge	Posted - 2007.10.06 13:49:00 - [14] Just out of interest (&slightly off topic) where is everyone getting info about the new ships from? Thanks
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.06 13:55:00 - [15] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=607521 Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) http://dl
Testosterone Bomb Red Ballz	Posted - 2007.10.06 13:57:00 - [16] Also decent link here http://eve.thefotb.com/rev3/
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.06 14:11:00 - [17] 3-400 million pricetag my ass. Expect 1 billion, absolute minimum. 2 billion is more likely. That's when prices stabilize, 2 weeks after release you will pay 4 billion. You need to expend 32 Mechanical Engineering datacores and 32 Minmatar Starship datacores to even have a CHANCE at inventing a BPC for this ship. If ME datacores sell for 5m each and Starship datacores for 1m each, it will cost between 2 and 2.5 billion ISK on average to get an invention success, resulting in a 5-run ME -4 BPC. Even then you are not guaranteed a BPC for THIS ship, you have a 50/50 chance of getting either this one or the mission runner T2 BS. Assuming the mission runner BS also sells really well and the 50% chance of hitting that BPC doesn't raise the average cost even further, (this is unlikely, it is a Minmatar ship, not exactly great for missioning) a max skilled production guy will have spent 2.25 billion ISK just to get the 5-run BPC. At that point he hasn't actually manufactured anything. We have no idea what the production costs of these ships are, but they're not likely to be low. Just remember that the cost of obtaining the blueprint alone adds 450 million to the price tag.
Opium Prime The Jump Bridge of San Luis Rey	Posted - 2007.10.06 15:28:00 - [18] Originally by: Xequecal 3-400 million pricetag my ass. Expect 1 billion, absolute minimum. 2 billion is more likely. That's when prices stabilize, 2 weeks after release you will pay 4 billion. You need to expend 32 Mechanical Engineering datacores and 32 Minmatar Starship datacores to even have a CHANCE at inventing a BPC for this ship. If ME datacores sell for 5m each and Starship datacores for 1m each, it will cost between 2 and 2.5 billion ISK on average to get an invention success, resulting in a 5-run ME -4 BPC. Even then you are not guaranteed a BPC for THIS ship, you have a 50/50 chance of getting either this one or the mission runner T2 BS. Assuming the mission runner BS also sells really well and the 50% chance of hitting that BPC doesn't raise the average cost even further, (this is unlikely, it is a Minmatar ship, not exactly great for missioning) a max skilled production guy will have spent 2.25 billion ISK just to get the 5-run BPC. At that point he hasn't actually manufactured anything. We have no idea what the production costs of these ships are, but they're not likely to be low. Just remember that the cost of obtaining the blueprint alone adds 450 million to the price tag. I`m a new player. Can someone explain me the logic of making a T2 BS cost more then a Capital?
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.10.06 15:52:00 - [19] Originally by: Xequecal You need to expend 32 Mechanical Engineering datacores and 32 Minmatar Starship datacores to even have a CHANCE at inventing a BPC for this ship. If ME datacores sell for 5m each and Starship datacores for 1m each, it will cost between 2 and 2.5 billion ISK on average to get an invention success, resulting in a 5-run ME -4 BPC. Even then you are not guaranteed a BPC for THIS ship, you have a 50/50 chance of getting either this one or the mission runner T2 BS. ...Commandships require 16 of each, yet I don't see any 500 mil Commandships. HACs require 8 of each, yet I don't see any 250 million ISK vagabonds or anything close to that. The invention costs is pretty much double that of a commandship, and most likely the same goes for the production costs. So 500 mil after the prices have stabilised isn't entirely unfeasible. 2 Billion....right. Not even 1 billion which you claimed was the absolute minimum. If if you succeed with the invention you WILL get the ship you were aiming for since the Covert battleships are all based on the Tier 1 battleships while all of the mission runners are based on the Tier 2s. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.

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