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LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 18:59:00 - [1] Originally by: Aberrant Pics or it didn't happen ;P and for other faction bs also. I want to know if i should ***** sansha or blood or guri missions :D
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:41:00 - [2] Edited by: LUKEC on 06/10/2007 19:41:54 Just fyi: 1050dps with scorch, relevant skills at 5, spec lvl4, 3x db/ts/navy heatsinks. With 2x 5% damage implants 1150 dps with scorch at 45km while enjoying full benefit of shield tank. Oomph it doesn't get fricking cap usage "bonus" for lasers but still carebears can start reprocessing their cnrs. Maybe it's on sisi, but i'm quite certain this won't see TQ.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:49:00 - [3] Edited by: LUKEC on 06/10/2007 19:50:48 Edited by: LUKEC on 06/10/2007 19:50:11 Originally by: iiOs Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 06/10/2007 19:41:54 Just fyi: 1050dps with scorch, relevant skills at 5, spec lvl4, 3x db/ts/navy heatsinks. With 2x 5% damage implants 1150 dps with scorch at 45km while enjoying full benefit of shield tank. Oomph it doesn't get fricking cap usage "bonus" for lasers but still carebears can start reprocessing their cnrs. Maybe it's on sisi, but i'm quite certain this won't see TQ. all sansha got this kind of change, i wouldnt be surprised if ccp made it come like this to TQ I would not mind it at all. Still , however amarr really lacked le pwn carebearboat. Navy apoc, bhaalgorn are nice but fail at carebearing as arma/abaddon pwn them. Would pwn in pvp also, however using anything more than t2 in blobs online isn't cost/effort(<- more than cost) effective. And again
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 20:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: LUKEC Oomph it doesn't get fricking cap usage "bonus" for lasers It does. DPS of 8 bonused turrets, Cap use of 4 turrets. Lawl at my numbers tbh. When i saw 6 hi slots i was sure it's 6 guns. Then only 2/3dps, still 800dps with scorch and running 4 guns isn't hard (same sh1t as 8 on poc). Was so excited i didn't look good :P But again, this won't see TQ imo.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 20:10:00 - [5] Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: LUKEC Lawl at my numbers tbh. When i saw 6 hi slots i was sure it's 6 guns. Then only 2/3dps, still 800dps with scorch and running 4 guns isn't hard (same sh1t as 8 on poc). Was so excited i didn't look good :P But again, this won't see TQ imo. It's not 8 on poc because it gets a damage bonus on top of this. It now has the DPS of the abaddon. And 7 mids. I pray this won't make it to TQ because it is a monster. Same as running 8 guns on apoc(while ignoring cap bonus of apoc... ) ... anyway i just wanted to say it's doable and with 7 meds shield tank from hell. Oh and i percieve lot of amarr pilots in ravens in few months when this "thing" loses 100% laser dmg bonus adn get 10% smartbomb activation bonus time
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 20:14:00 - [6] Edited by: LUKEC on 06/10/2007 20:14:48 Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: Marcathonas I pray this won't make it to TQ because it is a monster. To be fair, it costs a small fortune. 400k lp and 100 mil and minerals of tier2 bs. That's like 30lvl4 missions with q20 agents that are plenty in stain. (you can get 15k lp with proper skills for most of lvl4 missions) - this said, LP shop in 0.0 is pure isk sink as there's no way to ***** enough isk to spend it in lp store
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 21:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Elmicker Originally by: LUKEC That's like 30lvl4 missions with q20 agents that are plenty in stain. Tell me, who lives in stain these days? I have no clue, but I know where I can do anything without any problem whatsoever (q20 available)
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 22:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 06/10/2007 21:10:37 Originally by: LUKEC 400k lp and 100 mil and minerals of tier2 bs. That's like 30lvl4 missions with q20 agents that are plenty in stain. (you can get 15k lp with proper skills for most of lvl4 missions) - this said, LP shop in 0.0 is pure isk sink as there's no way to ***** enough isk to spend it in lp store Level fours in 0.0 have a huge cost to them, you WILL lose ships to gankers. I have 200k LP with Serpentis corporation, I used a Sacrilege to do the missions with a maximum paranoia fit (MWD in missions, cloak fitted) and I still hit six gate camps. I ran four of them and got blown up twice. You will also hit storylines in 0.0 that are downright impossible, there's a 5-part one that Serps give you that has a 3000 DPS room, no joke. I honestly never did lvl4 mission in 0.0 ... with this char.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 07:42:00 - [9] People still fly bs solo? You can't break half decent tank before it unaggro and dock/jump.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 07:45:00 - [10] Originally by: twit brent Anything happening with blood raider BS? they need this more than sansha. Yeh I want to know too. 5guns, 100% damage bonus flat, 25% armor resists and 50% web range sounds like decent and balanced idea... (while inheriting quite good cap from old bhaalgorn)

LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 08:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Laci Hi When this picture "real" and they really make this changes on nm i will cry, its a well balanced ship atm, 4 lasers and 4 cruise makes u ideal in pve, and u can make "any" missions bcos u can VEEARY your damage type (with cruises) when they nerf to a laserboat u (we) lost that, what was good in this ship. i traned approx a 5m sp directly for this ship use... Laci: The (ex?)Nightmare "specialist" Hey what about my suckgorn and few talisman clones ?
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:09:00 - [12] Edited by: LUKEC on 07/10/2007 12:14:13 Originally by: The ArchWarder Ok i just finnished a rather interesting fight with a Vindicator on Sisi. He had a Officer and Cosmos tank + domi webber and Full rack of Ions T2. MY nightmare was also Officer and faction tanked. If the fight started at greater than 10km i would win because i was using 2X Tracking Disrupters and i was able to make my boosters last longer than him due to my nos and nut combo. I was not out damaging his tank untill his cap failed. ( Long fight ) If at any stage he managed to get within 6km His superior Tank and damage ment i could not kill him and he could easily break my tank. My tank at the time was Dual Repped with faction and officer EANs with a damage control. ( 5 lows means a very Rep Cycle dependent tank ) Also you need to fit 1X T1 PG rig and 1x T2 PG rig to fit this tank + guns ect, IF you want an MWD. In its current form the nightmare is a challenge to fly, one must stay out of web range ( faction/officer webs are a must ) as long as possable of a single opponent and take care to eliminate ganky cruisers onsite. You will not be able to sustain heavy damage like the nightmare of old ( non shield tank ) because you cant have both high resists and dual rep like the other faction BSs. You must choose between Dual rep and medium resists or high resists with single rep. I found using 3X damps reduced most battleships to only 20km lock range which ment i would have to stay outside that range for the duration of the fight, once you get locked you 3X damps are useless agaisnt that target so i went with tracking disrupters. Will test against a raven soon adn update as i go. How about sticking pith XL booster with injector on and some proper hardeners & invuls and 4 faction heatsink ? What you are doing is like... trying to armor tank raven(cnr) and going after blasterthrons... Ps. if your tank was officer & faction, you should be able to tank "any" battleship ingame forever. (just fyi, 5 slot tank on amarr bs with 2x db/ts/am lar, 2x 22.5% eanm and dc II can tank ~700dps explosive damage and 800+ anything else which is more than blasterthrons do if they are tanked once you pwn their drones.. oh this is without implants, drugs or gang links)
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Soultaker Angel quote mess... Get it right, I don't plan to fit RSD on faction ship.

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