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Amelia O	Posted - 2007.10.06 18:57:00 - [1] I'm coming back to EVE online , I never played amarr ships before(1 year ago +-) because they were gimped. what about now ? can you guys give me an overview about gallente too ? that was my old specialization
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:13:00 - [2] Everyone complains about their race except for gallente (usually). So go gallente, use drones to lag down the severs and start a thread complaining how gallente got nerfed in some way they didn't. This thread is going to be nice.
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:35:00 - [3] not as gimped as they were a year ago. at that time, amarr was the red headed stepchild of eve. They would get owned by nos/tight fittings/cap use, however some things have changed, first and formost, NOS has been nerfed, meaning a geddon can kill a domi now. Second, lasers have been given a little better damage curve at range. Third is the geddon and zealot have been given some cpu. This made the average amarr ship respectable, however the greatest amarr asset, curse and pilgrim were hit hard by the nos nerf. Rigs have also helped amarr a lot, an abaddon, pre rigs was unable to sustain its cap, but with 3x ccc rigs it can actually generate enough cap to power the lasers. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Asestorian Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:36:00 - [4] Gallente are still considered the all-round best of the bunch, but the other races are starting to get a look in. Amarr aren't terrible - they have some awesome ships - but they do really require a good bit of time invested in them skillpoint-wise to make them shine. --- ---
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:37:00 - [5] imo, most amarr t1 stuff is a bit crappy (don't see many people flying them), but their: Battleships (geddon + abbadon) are good Capitals are good (archon best tank, revelation no ammo usage) Their HAC's are great (zealots tear through everything, sacs have nice dps now, and a great tank) Commandships are good (absolution is badass, actually anything that has heavy pulse II's is pretty badass) Interceptors are good (crusader for killing other ceptors, malediction for tackling)
ReePeR McAllem The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.10.07 01:55:00 - [6] Not to mention the arbitrator. Pimp t1 cruiser. Punisher is cool. Good cap, tackle, speed and dmg. Geddon can be a beast. Armor plated with 7 MP II
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.07 01:59:00 - [7] Amarr ships get better as gang size increases. Armageddon can do lots of DPS from 50km. Of course, by itself, enemies can just burn right up to it, or warp out. If you have someone to tackle it, you can DPS out of range of your target and force them to try and kill your tackler, not easy if they're a battleship. An Abaddon by itself is an inferior fleet ship, the Megathron is better. But if you have someone to cap transfer you, the Abaddon becomes a monster. The Megathron only gets a little better if someone cap transfers it. Amarr bonuses are conducive to large fights. 5% armor resistance per level is great against a large number of enemies. 7.5% armor repair amount/level is useless if your enemy is competent and there are more than three. In massive engagements with massive lag, all other races need to deal with 1 minute+ module lag to reload their weapons. Amarr lasers just keep shooting.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:56:00 - [8] Actually with the missile changes to the malediction isnt it even better then the allmighty crow now or am I missing something? It can get 29km rocket range, it deals more dmg and its faster and tanks better.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:59:00 - [9] Amarr is working, nothing so great about them. Still better than caldari at pvp imo. (unless you want to fly capitals or crow all the time)
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:10:00 - [10] Edited by: Sc0rphion on 07/10/2007 13:10:41 Amarr = Only good looking ships... Amarr role Ships : Ships in Parrot Form Amarr role hits = mmm lasers < Cap < 1 minut to fight WHO TOLD that amarr its for large encounters?? WTF???? do u really play amarr?? In paper !! YEs u are good armor tanking... AND SO WHAT? U canot fight with ur lasers and still tank for a long time.. do u knew about??? if someone Nos u (even with the patch) Amarr drop dead... And think about before flame... SOMEDAY UR WILL HIT UR COMPUTER SAYING: THIS FU KIN G CAP BOOSTER DOSNT INYECT???? WHY WHYYYYYYYYYY BTW P.D !! I fly amarr ;) Im Amarrian.. am proud of it... and i will still flying amarrians ships ... I like to think im flying in birds of space !!!

Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:22:00 - [11] Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 07/10/2007 13:23:42 Originally by: Sc0rphion Edited by: Sc0rphion on 07/10/2007 13:10:41 Amarr = Only good looking ships... Amarr role Ships : Ships in Parrot Form Amarr role hits = mmm lasers < Cap < 1 minut to fight WHO TOLD that amarr its for large encounters?? WTF???? do u really play amarr?? In paper !! YEs u are good armor tanking... AND SO WHAT? U canot fight with ur lasers and still tank for a long time.. do u knew about??? if someone Nos u (even with the patch) Amarr drop dead... And think about before flame... SOMEDAY UR WILL HIT UR COMPUTER SAYING: THIS FU KIN G CAP BOOSTER DOSNT INYECT???? WHY WHYYYYYYYYYY BTW P.D !! I fly amarr ;) Im Amarrian.. am proud of it... and i will still flying amarrians ships ... I like to think im flying in birds of space !!! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=578419
Dalanoria Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Actually with the missile changes to the malediction isnt it even better then the allmighty crow now or am I missing something? It can get 29km rocket range, it deals more dmg and its faster and tanks better. Nope not realy. Crow is faster, especialy if your using Javelins, which is the only way you could get 29km. And as far as dps goes, their both very crappy...
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Sc0rphion Edited by: Sc0rphion on 07/10/2007 13:10:41 Amarr = Only good looking ships... Amarr role Ships : Ships in Parrot Form Amarr role hits = mmm lasers < Cap < 1 minut to fight WHO TOLD that amarr its for large encounters?? WTF???? do u really play amarr?? In paper !! YEs u are good armor tanking... AND SO WHAT? U canot fight with ur lasers and still tank for a long time.. do u knew about??? if someone Nos u (even with the patch) Amarr drop dead... And think about before flame... SOMEDAY UR WILL HIT UR COMPUTER SAYING: THIS FU KIN G CAP BOOSTER DOSNT INYECT???? WHY WHYYYYYYYYYY BTW P.D !! I fly amarr ;) Im Amarrian.. am proud of it... and i will still flying amarrians ships ... I like to think im flying in birds of space !!! Maybe try speaking English instead of ******? Seriously, it must take some effort to type this incoherently.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:27:00 - [14] mmm Sorry i forgot this is a ENGLISH only game... sorry dude !! Can you forgive me? Please i will not do it anymore Oh my GOd Why i had to born in a place where english isnt the first language WHYYYY WHHYYYY O GIusto cielo.... WHY... STFU and stick to the thread girl
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Dalanoria Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Actually with the missile changes to the malediction isnt it even better then the allmighty crow now or am I missing something? It can get 29km rocket range, it deals more dmg and its faster and tanks better. Nope not realy. Crow is faster, especialy if your using Javelins, which is the only way you could get 29km. And as far as dps goes, their both very crappy... Have you tried fitting these two ships with max skills in EFT? I fitted both with T2mwd and 3xt2 launchers and gremlin javelin for male and thorn jav for crow. result? Crow 3311m/s with 63dps Male 3389m/s with 66dps On my screen it sure looks like the crow is slower and has lower dps and lower tank.
Soultaker Angel	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Sc0rphion mmm Sorry i forgot this is a ENGLISH only game... sorry dude !! Can you forgive me? Please i will not do it anymore Oh my GOd Why i had to born in a place where english isnt the first language WHYYYY WHHYYYY O GIusto cielo.... WHY... STFU and stick to the thread girl Owned.
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:57:00 - [17] Edited by: Xequecal on 07/10/2007 13:58:11 Originally by: Sc0rphion mmm Sorry i forgot this is a ENGLISH only game... sorry dude !! Can you forgive me? Please i will not do it anymore Oh my GOd Why i had to born in a place where english isnt the first language WHYYYY WHHYYYY O GIusto cielo.... WHY... STFU and stick to the thread girl BS. ESL people don't type like this. At least they don't do it out of a reduced understanding of English. Oh, and to actually answer your question: Active tanks suck ass in PvP. I suggest not using them at all if you expect to face any kind of reasonable opposition and aren't just ganking people 6 to 1 or more.
Aerin Cloudfayr Extreme Addiction Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.10.07 13:57:00 - [18] lol wtf random... Cap usage is still a painful issue, but get your skills and experience with your fitting up, and you'll know how to manage it. half lasers and standard crystals if you have to rep or regain some cap, inject etc etc. Mids i've found recently are still for cap rechargers lol =\ But the race isn't so borken, it could just do with a bandaid or twenty.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:08:00 - [19] Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 07/10/2007 13:58:11 Originally by: Sc0rphion mmm Sorry i forgot this is a ENGLISH only game... sorry dude !! Can you forgive me? Please i will not do it anymore Oh my GOd Why i had to born in a place where english isnt the first language WHYYYY WHHYYYY O GIusto cielo.... WHY... STFU and stick to the thread girl BS. ESL people don't type like this. At least they don't do it out of a reduced understanding of English. Oh, and to actually answer your question: Active tanks suck ass in PvP. I suggest not using them at all if you expect to face any kind of reasonable opposition and aren't just ganking people 6 to 1 or more. ehh mmmm U are amarrian for real?? Oops sorry sounds like not.. just look like By the way... Stick to the thread not to the flame... nobody care if u are RunningLikeABabeCryingToMYMomBecauseAguYisInsultingMe Be a man little girl
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Sc0rphion Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 07/10/2007 13:58:11 Originally by: Sc0rphion mmm Sorry i forgot this is a ENGLISH only game... sorry dude !! Can you forgive me? Please i will not do it anymore Oh my GOd Why i had to born in a place where english isnt the first language WHYYYY WHHYYYY O GIusto cielo.... WHY... STFU and stick to the thread girl BS. ESL people don't type like this. At least they don't do it out of a reduced understanding of English. Oh, and to actually answer your question: Active tanks suck ass in PvP. I suggest not using them at all if you expect to face any kind of reasonable opposition and aren't just ganking people 6 to 1 or more. ehh mmmm U are amarrian for real?? Oops sorry sounds like not.. just look like By the way... Stick to the thread not to the flame... nobody care if u are RunningLikeABabeCryingToMYMomBecauseAguYisInsultingMe Be a man little girl You're like 13 years old, aren't you?

Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:34:00 - [21] Look girl stick to the thread... How many times i need to tell u.. U canot hurt with words baby britney... Stop trying !! or i will TELLMYMOM Amar ships sucks but i still use it :)
Whotan Gallente Sci-Tec	Posted - 2007.10.07 15:04:00 - [22] Edited by: Whotan on 07/10/2007 15:04:11 You got to give something for those nice looking ships^^! Anyway, you just need to use your ships abilities, for example amarr has a really good range, even for a pulse(close range), so try using that to your advantage as thye do some damn heavy dps, and you might want to go passive tanked(on Bs's) because that will make you last twice as long as your guns chew cap. Edit: lol @ above
Dheorl	Posted - 2007.10.07 15:12:00 - [23] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Dalanoria Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Actually with the missile changes to the malediction isnt it even better then the allmighty crow now or am I missing something? It can get 29km rocket range, it deals more dmg and its faster and tanks better. Nope not realy. Crow is faster, especialy if your using Javelins, which is the only way you could get 29km. And as far as dps goes, their both very crappy... Have you tried fitting these two ships with max skills in EFT? I fitted both with T2mwd and 3xt2 launchers and gremlin javelin for male and thorn jav for crow. result? Crow 3311m/s with 63dps Male 3389m/s with 66dps On my screen it sure looks like the crow is slower and has lower dps and lower tank. Don't just look at numbers under the same situation. With the right fit for lobbing missiles out of web range crow is still better.
Redback911 Malevolent Intentions	Posted - 2007.10.07 15:27:00 - [24] I have still to find a single ship that outganks / tanks the Abaddon, and thats including faction ships (T2 Fitted).
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.07 15:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Redback911 I have still to find a single ship that outganks / tanks the Abaddon, and thats including faction ships (T2 Fitted). There probably are none which can do both simultaneously as well as the Abaddon. But the Abaddon WILL cap out inside of a few minutes, and you have to shut off either the repper or half your lasers. Also, many ships can out-tank it (Drake anyone?), and many can out-gank it (Megathron/Hyperion anyone?) ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.07 15:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Acoco Osiris Originally by: Redback911 I have still to find a single ship that outganks / tanks the Abaddon, and thats including faction ships (T2 Fitted). There probably are none which can do both simultaneously as well as the Abaddon. But the Abaddon WILL cap out inside of a few minutes, and you have to shut off either the repper or half your lasers. Also, many ships can out-tank it (Drake anyone?), and many can out-gank it (Megathron/Hyperion anyone?) Agreed ;)
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.07 16:02:00 - [27] Edited by: Xequecal on 07/10/2007 16:03:19 Originally by: Acoco Osiris Originally by: Redback911 I have still to find a single ship that outganks / tanks the Abaddon, and thats including faction ships (T2 Fitted). There probably are none which can do both simultaneously as well as the Abaddon. But the Abaddon WILL cap out inside of a few minutes, and you have to shut off either the repper or half your lasers. Also, many ships can out-tank it (Drake anyone?), and many can out-gank it (Megathron/Hyperion anyone?) You are making the massive mistake of fitting a repper on your Amarr battleship. The only way to fit Armageddons and Abaddons is with 3 Heat Sinks and multiple plates. Active tanking sucks in general, active tanks on laser ships suck especially. You will still lose to a Megathron due to its far better tracking but you'll outgank anything else. Amarr's low mid slots are a serious problem. Small scale PvP comes down to who can train the most sensor dampeners on the opponent, and Amarr ships are bad at this.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.07 16:07:00 - [28] ACtive tank are good .. and sexy
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.07 16:27:00 - [29] Originally by: Dheorl Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Dalanoria Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Actually with the missile changes to the malediction isnt it even better then the allmighty crow now or am I missing something? It can get 29km rocket range, it deals more dmg and its faster and tanks better. Nope not realy. Crow is faster, especialy if your using Javelins, which is the only way you could get 29km. And as far as dps goes, their both very crappy... Have you tried fitting these two ships with max skills in EFT? I fitted both with T2mwd and 3xt2 launchers and gremlin javelin for male and thorn jav for crow. result? Crow 3311m/s with 63dps Male 3389m/s with 66dps On my screen it sure looks like the crow is slower and has lower dps and lower tank. Don't just look at numbers under the same situation. With the right fit for lobbing missiles out of web range crow is still better. Uhm excuse me but is your statement based on flying a crow AND a malediction after the patch. If not, and by "not looking at stats" like you said, you dont really have much actually proving your point now do you? Either try both inties or show any kind of data that proves it otherwise? ggkkthxbai


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