Originally by: Jaabaa

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Edited by: Jaabaa on 07/10/2007 00:53:38
Not that I live in these high player count systems, but this is how I see it.

Level 4 agents in 0.9 systems like Jita and Rens is just asking for a hot (lag) spot.

Minimal risk at maximum gain running level 4 missions.

That means a lot of buying power, and where there is a lot of buying power there is a lot of trade.

Where there is a lot of trade, there is a lot of people (=lag)

Solution ? Move the agents (again)

Level 1: 1.0 - 0.8
Level 2: 0.8 - 0.6
Level 3: 0.6 - 0.4
Level 4: 0.4 - 0.2
Level 5: 0.2 - 0.1(0.0)


Then agents and the associated trade will be more distributed and there will be less of a tendancy to congregate in a few select locations.

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Originally by: Krist Valentine

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Worst idea ever.

Hi sec is way more popular than lo sec and always will be.

CCP want more paying customers and if it wasn't for the ability to make good Isk in lo sec there would be less subscribers.

To us this is just a game.To CCP it's a business.

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People don't play EVE to have a userfriendly game, they play EVE because it's unlike all the other teddybear MMOGs out there.

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Edited by: Susan Acid on 07/10/2007 12:25:10

Originally by: Krist Valentine

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Worst idea ever.

Hi sec is way more popular than lo sec and always will be.

CCP want more paying customers and if it wasn't for the ability to make good Isk in lo sec there would be less subscribers.

To us this is just a game.To CCP it's a business.

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People don't play EVE to have a userfriendly game, they play EVE because it's unlike all the other teddybear MMOGs out there.

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There's nothing user friendly about this game as it is.CCP didn't make Eve to pander to the whims of people like you or me.They made it to make money.

How far do you want to take it to make this game more user unfriendly?No Concord?Make every system lo sec?

If you think making it less user friendly will encourage more people to subscribe you are deluded.

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Originally by: Ellah

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Dont nerf lev 4 missions, it will make a lot of people leave the game. Instead, make 0.0 more rewarding and interesting to live in. Some regions have agents/missions, some have not, and those are not the most exiting to live in (not included wars / roaming gangs).
Also a substantial amount of players only play for an hour or so every day because of rl, and they are not likely to go to 0.0. For them the removal of lev 4 missions to low sec will end in quitting eve.

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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There are level 4 agents in 0.9 sec?
That's outrageous. No risk = No reward. That's the true spirit of EvE.

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Originally by: Jeximo

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I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.

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In fact 0.0 missioning is safer than 0.0 ratting. But why in God's name should missioning be as lucrative in hi-sec as it is on 0.0? Every other profession has to accept the risks and limitations of 0.0 - what makes missioners special?

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Originally by: Secretary

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If i make enough noise about it, I'll be able to kill paying customers on my terms whether they like it or not!
If i pretend it's something to do with market hubs i'll get more attention!
CCP only pay attention to the really active threads on the forums anyway.

You've got lvl 5 mission runners to prey on. The rewards for the lvl 5s will increase as time goes on and draw more runners into your tender piratical grasp so just have a little patience.

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In fact 0.0 missioning is safer than 0.0 ratting. But why in God's name should missioning be as lucrative in hi-sec as it is on 0.0? Every other profession has to accept the risks and limitations of 0.0 - what makes missioners special?

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It isn't. you get double the loyalty points for lowsec missions. double loyalty points = faction toys twice as fast.


So I guess my point is : if you don't like how the game is at the moment why don't you quit?
And can i have your stuff?

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: Ellah

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Dont nerf lev 4 missions, it will make a lot of people leave the game. Instead, make 0.0 more rewarding and interesting to live in. Some regions have agents/missions, some have not, and those are not the most exiting to live in (not included wars / roaming gangs).
Also a substantial amount of players only play for an hour or so every day because of rl, and they are not likely to go to 0.0. For them the removal of lev 4 missions to low sec will end in quitting eve.

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Seriously? You'd really quit the whole game and write off all your investment of time, money and in-game friendships because you weren't able to make more ISK in hi-sec than 0.0 miners or ratters?

Is making risk-free ISK really that central to your game experience?

These people that only play an hour a day and never leave hi-sec - why does it matter to them whether they're doing level 3s in a Drake rather than level 4s in a Raven?

If you're going to say "for more ISK" there are already NPC agents in 0.0 space; you can run Level 4s with them and even get neato faction items and ships (A Machariel for 400k LP is a more lucrative proposition than a CNR for 600k LP I reckon). I know that you can run missions for these agents because I did so. In fact 0.0 missioning is safer than 0.0 ratting. But why in God's name should missioning be as lucrative in hi-sec as it is on 0.0? Every other profession has to accept the risks and limitations of 0.0 - what makes missioners special?

Because they'll all quit?

Seems an awful lot like a demand special treatment. I don't see miners posting threats to quit because CCP won't put Crokite in hi-sec belts. I don't see ratters posting threats to quit because CCP won't put Battleship rats in hi-sec belts. I don't see gas cloud harvesters threatening to quit because they have to go 0.0, etc., etc.

What makes missioners so special?

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