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Lady Lysandra
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:12:00 -
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Either that or they have outsourced drone coding to the same team Blizzard uses for the Rogue Vanish ability.
Seems to get more and more broken with every patch, never fixed.
Tonight my Ishkur pilot was out doing lvl 2's for some quick LP to get Amar Navy Multi-Freq crystals.
Head out on a mission, pop my pack of Hobbie II's and let them loose.
Hmmm...they are going after the second cluster of rats, not the close ones, ok yank them back.
Too late, one has aggro...ok, recall it.
Recall it, recall it...RECALL IT!
Not working...taxi to the d*mn drone and scoop to drone bay...scoop to drone bay, scoop to drone bay, SCOOP TO DRONE BAY!
Not working....only thing that saved it was my drones killed everything before the targeted drone popped.
JFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CCP how the @!#$%^&* hard is it to write code where drones actually obey commands, select targets of the nearest threat to the 'mother' ship, do not get stuck on each other, etc?
Are your programmers that bloody stupid they cannot handle simple programming steps/tasks?
Then again look at the primative, clunky disaster that you call the drone UI, I guess the drone AI is just about as borked.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Lady Lysandra
Blizzard uses for the Rogue Vanish ability.
Don't swear.
And CCP, yes, please fix drones 
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Zana Kito
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:17:00 -
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Thats why we have the entire drone region..
They are rebelling to join their brothers!! |
Z3r0n
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zana Kito
Thats why we have the entire drone region..
They are rebelling to join their brothers!!
Best explanation ever! Made me laugh. 
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Freelancing Opportunists
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:20:00 -
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Yeah, we've all had experiences like that.
But come on. Give them a break. They're working on itÖ, just wait and see what happens and how it goes.
Besides, I'm angry at you for using an Ishkur for missionrunning. It's cruel.
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Dei
Amarr
Khanid Aerospace Group
Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:25:00 -
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According to a recent-ish Dev Blog the drones are fixed in Rev 3.
Originally by: Oveur
Drones Revisited
"About time" is probably the first thing that comes to mind. Not only are we improving the interface, we're working on the logic behind them. This should hopefully lead to them being more consistent in control and abolish their free will. Assist and Guard are new commands coming in, we're getting lots of new named drones and we're adding a new constraint on drones, bandwidth. With this, bandwidth determines the number of drones you can control, allowing the dronebay to be considerably increased on drone ships, accommodating more waves or variety. Ubar? Ja!
Edit note: Bandwidth referenced here is not in reference to your internet connection. It's to un-nerf specialized drone ships and allow more differentation between ships. There is also specific Drone Region content in this update.
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Lady Lysandra
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine
Yeah, we've all had experiences like that.
But come on. Give them a break. They're working on itÖ, just wait and see what happens and how it goes.
Besides, I'm angry at you for using an Ishkur for missionrunning. It's cruel.
I would give them a break, but over the last 3.5 years I have seen drones get worse, and worse, and worse. I have seen them claim to have them fixed, but the fixes never work.
As for using an Ishkur, I wanted something that I could fit 2 tracs, 2 salvs, omni-tanked, fast (Gistii AB), blast lvl 2's apart in seconds. All I want is 1350 fast LP for a reward. And trust me using a cruiser or BC to do these missions would be slower then the Ishkur. I have done lvl 3's in it :) Admittedly I actually have to pay closer attention and if this glitch had happened I'd probably have lost all my firepower. And why I stopped doing lvl 3's in an ishkur.
Was not afraid of my mistakes, was justifiably concerned at CCP's drone UI/AI disaster and server lag/death. Doing 3's in an AF leaves no room for error, mine or system.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:30:00 -
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There are some drone upgrades on SISI atm.
2 things I've noticed so far, is that the drone UI is all on 1 line per drone. This makes the UI a bit more compressed. I do wish it could be "undocked" from the overview though.
Also, there is an option now for drones to be "passive" and "aggressive", which doesn't do anything as far as I can tell atm.
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:30:00 -
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There are some changes on SISI regarding drones.
They can be set to active or passive now and you can abandon them. :-/
Also, the health bars are screwed up now (shield is leftmost of the 3 bars and it gets red from right to left).
isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
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MaxSkywalker
x13
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Lysandra
Either that or they have outsourced drone coding to the same team Blizzard uses for the Rogue Vanish ability.
Seems to get more and more broken with every patch, never fixed.
Tonight my Ishkur pilot was out doing lvl 2's for some quick LP to get Amar Navy Multi-Freq crystals.
Head out on a mission, pop my pack of Hobbie II's and let them loose.
Hmmm...they are going after the second cluster of rats, not the close ones, ok yank them back.
Too late, one has aggro...ok, recall it.
Recall it, recall it...RECALL IT!
Not working...taxi to the d*mn drone and scoop to drone bay...scoop to drone bay, scoop to drone bay, SCOOP TO DRONE BAY!
Not working....only thing that saved it was my drones killed everything before the targeted drone popped.
JFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CCP how the @!#$%^&* hard is it to write code where drones actually obey commands, select targets of the nearest threat to the 'mother' ship, do not get stuck on each other, etc?
Are your programmers that bloody stupid they cannot handle simple programming steps/tasks?
Then again look at the primative, clunky disaster that you call the drone UI, I guess the drone AI is just about as borked.
If its so damn easy, do it yourself? ...
Regards
MaxSkywalker
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Freelancing Opportunists
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Lysandra
Originally by: Krist Valentine
Yeah, we've all had experiences like that.
But come on. Give them a break. They're working on itÖ, just wait and see what happens and how it goes.
Besides, I'm angry at you for using an Ishkur for missionrunning. It's cruel.
I would give them a break, but over the last 3.5 years I have seen drones get worse, and worse, and worse. I have seen them claim to have them fixed, but the fixes never work.
As for using an Ishkur, I wanted something that I could fit 2 tracs, 2 salvs, omni-tanked, fast (Gistii AB), blast lvl 2's apart in seconds. All I want is 1350 fast LP for a reward. And trust me using a cruiser or BC to do these missions would be slower then the Ishkur. I have done lvl 3's in it :) Admittedly I actually have to pay closer attention and if this glitch had happened I'd probably have lost all my firepower. And why I stopped doing lvl 3's in an ishkur.
Was not afraid of my mistakes, was justifiably concerned at CCP's drone UI/AI disaster and server lag/death. Doing 3's in an AF leaves no room for error, mine or system.
There, that's my kind of critique :]
If you'd avoided the screamy bits in the first post I would probably have given you huggles.
I don't like screamy bits, they make me sad.
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James Potkukelkka
Karjala Inc.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dei
According to a recent-ish Dev Blog the drones are fixed in Rev 3.
yay, lets hold breath until 2010 then ^^
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine
Yeah, we've all had experiences like that.
Actually not ALL, as i've yet to experience one drone bug 
Have to agree with one of the above, if you think it's so easy, go and write it.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: MaxSkywalker
If its so damn easy, do it yourself? ...
Stupid comment award winner
SKUNK
Originally by: Jeximo
I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:09:00 -
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*Vitrael pulls out the megaphone
[screeeeeaaa]is this thing on? ATTENTION FORUMGOERS.
CCP HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED A DRONE AI AND UI OVERHAUL IN THE DEV BLOG "ABOUT THAT NOVEMBER EXPANSION OF OURS"
YOU MAY STOP WHINING NOW AND RETURN TO YOUR HOMES. THANK YOU. 
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Ogul
Caldari
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Vitrael
*Vitrael pulls out the megaphone
[screeeeeaaa]is this thing on? ATTENTION FORUMGOERS.
CCP HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED A DRONE AI AND UI OVERHAUL IN THE DEV BLOG "ABOUT THAT NOVEMBER EXPANSION OF OURS"
YOU MAY STOP WHINING NOW AND RETURN TO YOUR HOMES. THANK YOU.
True, they definitely win at announcements.
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Redpants
Gallente
Dead Eagle
North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:45:00 -
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How do you know that drones aren't working as intended? Drones have always "mostly" done what I tell them to.
When they don't, I assume that's them knowing something I don't with their AI of the future.
"My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |
Sixtina KL
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:18:00 -
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My experience is that my drones will travel halfway to their target, then change their mind and run off somewhere else. Happens almost all the time too.
Sometimes, I let my drones out and they start fighting of their own accord for no visible reason. Other times, they sit idle. Why? I'll never know.
Drones are arguably the only feature in EVE to be driven by quantum physics.
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Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.10.07 18:33:00 -
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My drones speak to me
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I had a moderated siggy once...but then I pwned it...just like this
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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insidion
Caldari
Last of the Technocracy
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Posted - 2007.10.07 18:56:00 -
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Revealations 3, due in november, offers a complete rewrite of the drone AI and UI. Not fixes, not patches, a rewrite. It's my last hope for drones, but expect there to be new and interesting issues. =)
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Thommy
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Posted - 2007.10.07 19:12:00 -
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Actually there are several changes for drones allready on singularity for testing review so grab your test client and help out debugging the new drone codes!
Currently these things are what i noticed:
- Drone overview is now similar like the gang overview
- Drones now have an "aggresive" and "passive" setup
- You can abandon your drone(s) by right clicking them in your drone overview (possibly in space too but not tested that)
The aggresive / passive setting seems to work pretty well and it looks like they stick as an group together.
Also with aggresive setting they worked off the targets pretty nicely and effectively (large frigate spawns FTW  )
All with all it actually looks very promising
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.07 20:05:00 -
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What's the use of the abandon drone option?
Something like return to bay... return to baaaay... RETURN TO BAY I SAY... OOhh fk tha.... abandon->launch new drone?
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Sgt Blade
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.07 20:58:00 -
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what the hell? i have notisced any of these bugs, they always do what they are told to whenever i use them and first time...ive never ahd the problem where you tell them to come back and they dont.
why not try get of of that laggy missioning system? else i dunno
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syphurous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.07 21:01:00 -
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I wish I could've abbandoned drones the other night.
Floating about in AE lvl3 in my Domi, having full T2 drones it had been extremely easy ( not surprising ) and the last room ( not bonus ) I dropped my Warden II's and floated closer to the spawns so I could get aggro and also target the rats before my drones picked on them ( My drones have more reach than I do :S ). So I kill the "boss" leaving 2 vipers and the 2 spider drones and turn round to get back to my drones knowing that I'll need drop out my hobs to get the vipers/spiders. One Warden II decides he'll shoot the aggressor, one of the vipers and so it starts to attack him. I'm 15km away and at full AB back to the drone when I get webbed and my speed drops to 8.5 m/s. Now I could've warped out and come back, but the Warden II would've got popped by the time I got back to the room, and it was only the bonuses I was giving it that mean it could tank the damage. so I spend the next 15 minutes super slow boating back sentries trying to hit them with my rails / smartbombs and not being able to hit them ot do enough DPS.
If I would've been able to abbandon the 4 warden II's that weren't being picked on I could've killed the webbers and saved myself alot of time drifting back to pick them all back up.
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