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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:50:00 -
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One of the reasons you wanted to play Eve Online? What were the authors you liked and do they influence how you play or roleplay?
For myself I have been an avid Science Fiction reader since grade school. Niven, Asimov, Herbert, Pournell, Gibson and Weber are some of my favoite authors. Im always looking for ingame refrences to sci-fi authors or items from novels.
I'm still searching the Galaxy for a Ringworld and Dahek. 
What about CCP? Are there readers of Sci-fi there? If so how did it influence your design or development of the game? ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:52:00 -
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what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells? ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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ChimeraRouge
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:04:00 -
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ibtl
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar Gerek Business Consortium
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Asimov wrote I Robot (which were brutally butcherd into a movie), Frank Herbert wrote the Dune Saga (which has been brutally butcherd into movies and tvshows), William Gibson wrote Neuromancer (which was also butcherd into a movie with Keanu Reeves for some outlandish reason). The others I don't recognize...
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 08/10/2007 19:12:21

come ooooooooooooooon it was an obvious troll
too much time on my hands at work 
My preference for sci fi is elizabeth moon or anne mccaffrey, though Frank Hebert and Fred Saberhagen are good too
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 08/10/2007 19:16:02
Originally by: ChironV Gibson
I really liked his older books, true classics they were, but the new one(s) that are contemporary just can't hold my interest. Describing online communities, forums, marekting etc. Booooring.
I love sci-fi, have done so ever since I was a little kid. No specific authors influenced me joining Eve or the way I play it though. To be honest, after a couple months or so, the whole RP element, immersion factor has pretty much faded. Eve is not complex enough and sacrifices believability for gameplay. Which is as it should be, of course.
Oh, and as for movies/shows, I'm a sucker for sci-fi. If it sucks but is in space, it's great.
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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar Gerek Business Consortium
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 08/10/2007 19:12:21

come ooooooooooooooon it was an obvious troll
Ack.. forgot my brain somewhere.. should have known better. 
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:15:00 -
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mahaha another victim claimed 
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Hm. Well. Movies: Dune Blade Runner War of the Worlds A Scanner Darkly 2001 2010 I,Robot NightFall Fahrenheit 451 Illustrated Man Slaughter-house Five
________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:17:00 -
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make that two victims 
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme mahaha another victim claimed 
Not really. I used you to get the conversation going. So you are a useful Troll. Thank you. ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:18:00 -
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to tell the truth i started playing eve because i am a HUGE Trekkie, and i dont really even read scifi....i prefer fantasy  --------------------------- how about ya have a nice tall glass of shut the hell up eh? |

Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Louis DelaBlanche on 08/10/2007 19:18:48 No Jules Verne or PK **** in your list? rabble rabble rabble 
they censored ****? rabble rabble rabble 
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon Edited by: Qui Shon on 08/10/2007 19:16:02
Originally by: ChironV Gibson
I really liked his older books, true classics they were, but the new one(s) that are contemporary just can't hold my interest. Describing online communities, forums, marekting etc. Booooring.
I love sci-fi, have done so ever since I was a little kid. No specific authors influenced me joining Eve or the way I play it though. To be honest, after a couple months or so, the whole RP element, immersion factor has pretty much faded. Eve is not complex enough and sacrifices believability for gameplay. Which is as it should be, of course.
Oh, and as for movies/shows, I'm a sucker for sci-fi. If it sucks but is in space, it's great.
Gibson got me involved in interested in computers. Although, I also like Matsume Shirow's take on cyberspace and cyberization. Which I wish Eve was more like.  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:20:00 -
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Yes, SF is a big factor in my background and probably one of the things that drew me to EVE.
Asimov and Clarke are my two favorites of all time. After that, I like Frank Herbert (read the stuff he wrote besides Dune, he was amazing), Philip Jose Farmer, Keith Laumer, James Blish, Philip K. ****, Robert J. Sawyer, Robert Bloch, Robert Heinlein, Ray Bradbury... that's just off the top of my head.
I have a library in my basement and boxes of books in my garage and met my wife at a SF con. 
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: ChironV on 08/10/2007 19:22:22
Originally by: Arvald to tell the truth i started playing eve because i am a HUGE Trekkie, and i dont really even read scifi....i prefer fantasy 
Trek was fun but there are times when I see humanity more like Babylon 5. Less perfect more screwed up. I relate more to the characters. Which also is what drew me to Eve. Characters and backstory is more along typical human responses.
I like fantasy as well but sometimes the authors cop out with magic because its such an easy out.  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 08/10/2007 19:23:32 Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 08/10/2007 19:22:05 oooh Heinlein, I haven't read anything by him in a while, time to tear my storage apart to find the boxes of books 
Firefly/Farscape fan fics are some of the few I will actually read, since the shows/writers havent released anywhere near enough
Disclaimer: I hate fanfics in general
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Pattern Clarc
Reikoku
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:27:00 -
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Heinlein haldeman card asomov Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus |

Rolly Polly
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rolly Polly on 08/10/2007 19:32:17 This thread lacks mention of Ian banks.
Read a lot of books by Doc Smith too, Great stuff the men were men and the women would tag along so they could do the cooking 
I imagine a lot of the stuff I read whilst I was growing up has had an effect on me but it's more due to having read quite a lot instead of any one book/author. The Sci fi nature and the Grit that pcgamer initially reported on were what flagged eve as having potential so I suppsoe it did draw me toward eve.
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:28:00 -
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I think the armor repping animation in Eve is an allusion to A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge.
Certainty of death...small chance of success...what are we waiting for? - Gimli |

Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: ChironV
Trek was fun but there are times when I see humanity more like Babylon 5. Less perfect more screwed up.
To this my colleague said that the reason he prefers Trek universe to Babylon is that he really doesn't like the idea of us not advancing at ALL in the future. That we are the same base egoistic, sadistic, ruled by our biological instincts more suited to the jungle then civilized life -selves that we've always been. This comment is also particularly fitting for Eve, mobsters online. 
Myself I enjoy both (types of) worlds.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Red Eye .Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: ChironV
Trek was fun but there are times when I see humanity more like Babylon 5. Less perfect more screwed up.
To this my colleague said that the reason he prefers Trek universe to Babylon is that he really doesn't like the idea of us not advancing at ALL in the future. That we are the same base egoistic, sadistic, ruled by our biological instincts more suited to the jungle then civilized life -selves that we've always been. This comment is also particularly fitting for Eve, mobsters online. 
Myself I enjoy both (types of) worlds.
That's exactly why I don't really like Star Trek that much. It's too utopian and clean. I like dark, disotopian, bleak, harsh settings. :)
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: ChironV Edited by: ChironV on 08/10/2007 19:22:22
Originally by: Arvald to tell the truth i started playing eve because i am a HUGE Trekkie, and i dont really even read scifi....i prefer fantasy 
Trek was fun but there are times when I see humanity more like Babylon 5. Less perfect more screwed up. I relate more to the characters. Which also is what drew me to Eve. Characters and backstory is more along typical human responses.
I like fantasy as well but sometimes the authors cop out with magic because its such an easy out. 
read wheel of time, trust me you wont be dissapointed --------------------------- how about ya have a nice tall glass of shut the hell up eh? |

Mr McCargo
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: ChironV Edited by: ChironV on 08/10/2007 19:22:22
Originally by: Arvald to tell the truth i started playing eve because i am a HUGE Trekkie, and i dont really even read scifi....i prefer fantasy 
Trek was fun but there are times when I see humanity more like Babylon 5. Less perfect more screwed up. I relate more to the characters. Which also is what drew me to Eve. Characters and backstory is more along typical human responses.
I like fantasy as well but sometimes the authors cop out with magic because its such an easy out. 
read wheel of time, trust me you wont be dissapointed
I am, because I was just reading the 11th book, when Jordan died. Anyway, it's not sci-fi. I like Ender's Game and the following books of Ender by Card.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:13:00 -
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HEY! Why hasn't anyone mentioned Robert Asprin yet?
Phule's Paradise FTW! 
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:15:00 -
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Alan Dean Foster wrote a few Star Trek books didnt he?
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Alan Dean Foster wrote a few Star Trek books didnt he?
Yeah, early in his career. He also wrote a pretty good Star Wars novel "Splinter of the Minds Eye." Ahem.. This was before he knew Leia was Lukes sister.  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: ChironV One of the reasons you wanted to play Eve Online?
Not directly. I've been reading science-fiction (not sci-fi) since my pre-teens. That's nearly thirty years of science fiction and was probably the reason I was attracted to Eve. As it happens my favourite author (CJ Cherryh) writes a lot of stuff that could almost be set within the Eve universe. Her stuff has more realism and is written in a slighty unusual way that makes it something of an intelletual exercise. Well worth the effort of getting into..but you do have to make the effort. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
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Fenderson
Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:26:00 -
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Jack Vance (most underrated scifi writer ever) Isaac Assimov Douglas Adams Dune (yeah i know its Frank Herbert but all i ever read by him was dune)
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Major Dim
Caldari RUS HOLDING
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:26:00 -
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What? almost a page and no mention of Simmons with his Hyperion saga? One of the best things i ever read. Assimov Clark Shekly Zhelazny and my all time favourite Philip K Dik - just classik
What about russian authors? Are any of them actually known outside russia? The classics like Stanislav Lem or the Brother Strugatsky?
As for me - yes sci-f books were the main reason i started eve and they are the only reason i stick with this ......much rable about lag, nerfs and still not fixed bugs.... game. Cuz it gives me the feeling of beeing part of the world i have read much about in diffrent books and always wanted to live in
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Shalia Ripper on 08/10/2007 20:29:28
Originally by: Tortun Nahme HEY! Why hasn't anyone mentioned Robert Asprin yet?
Phule's Paradise FTW! 
Because I just saw this thread.
I love Robert Asprin's books, they are silly and fun.
But I also enjoy a lot of the harder sci-fi, Niven/Pournelle/Barnes(Steven), John Barnes, Asimov (started reading Asimov when I was 8 or 9) Heinlein, LaGuin, Walter Jon Williams, Daniel Keys Moran, PKD, Kim Stanley Robinson, Harry Harrison (famous for Make Room! Make Room! the book that Soylent Green was based off of), and so on.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:33:00 -
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For those whose only exposure to Frank Herbert is via the Dune novels, I'd like to suggest the following:
Destination: Void. A real mind-bender, and a deep, deep read. It's not for the faint of heart, but very interesting stuff. The Jesus Incident. Sequel to Destination: Void, not quite as good but still a deep read and not easy. The Lazurus Effect. Sequel to the previous two. This isn't a trilogy but the books follow one another. This one was my least favorite but that's like saying that lager is my least favorite bree.
For lighter reading, but still Herbert all the way through:
Whipping Star Jorj X. McKie is one of my favorite characters in all of SF, and this book, albeit short, is mostly about him. The Dosadi Experiment Another book featuring McKie and the Bureau of Sabotage, but longer and deeper. Still a great read.
I also failed to mention Roger Zelazny before- he did some great work and not just the Amber novels.
-- EVE Glossary Exploration Video |

pwnedgato
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:37:00 -
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Niven, Asimov, Herbert, Pournell, Gibson and Weber I love sci-fi books but I can't get into any of their books. I've alwyas prefered more recent authors like allston, slavatore, and others. ----- signature |

Sky Grunthor
Minmatar MKS Directorate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:54:00 -
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Peter F Hamilton David Feintuch Steven Barnes Kevin J. Anderson Michael A Stackpole Deborah Christian Timothy Zahn Pamela Seargent (who started my love affair with sci-fi books and reading in general) S.M. Stirling Dan Simmons Harry Turdledove Ben Bova David Brin Greg Bear William Shatner (I hate mentioning him on principle but he did a short series that I did enjoy) and many many more. I read alot.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:58:00 -
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I do read sci fi but I'm really not sure if I've got any of it in mind playing EVE.
PKD Samuel Delaney Iain M Banks Frederik Pohl
are probably my favourite scifi authors covering space travel etc. that stick in my memory (read lots more but they were less memorable).
EVE is so dry though. It's like a bunch of different simulations and spreadsheets tacked together.
Not really bringing much fiction to mind, which is OK because I'm not much for roleplaying (MAGIC MISSILE! ).
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Major Dim
Caldari RUS HOLDING
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:02:00 -
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Jeee how could i forget Norton with the Solar Queen! A must for all traders and miners)))
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CCP Redundancy

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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Hm. Well. Movies: Dune Blade Runner War of the Worlds A Scanner Darkly 2001 2010 I,Robot NightFall Fahrenheit 451 Illustrated Man Slaughter-house Five
"A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
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Trolsk
The Murder Plan
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mr McCargo Anyway, it's not sci-fi. I like Ender's Game and the following books of Ender by Card.
Oddly, no one usually remembers his name, cool series 
Have to add Harry Harrison - Stainless Steel Rat series, Deathworld, Bill the Galactic Hero 
Piers Anthony - Biography of a Space Tyrant series
Brian Aldiss and many many already mentioned
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:12:00 -
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All the books/authors I have read have been mentioned :) Sci-fi reading did not draw me to EVE really, in general I am not a fan of sci-fi I just like the game mechanics here (player looting, potential to be an evil bastard instead of the good guy).
I guess really I am just playing until something with the same pvp focus and player lootage comes along in a genre I prefere (fallout MMO plx :))
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 08/10/2007 21:13:30
Quote: "A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
Fairly loosely, yeah.
PKD has had a fair bit of success in the world of movies. He just churned out idea after idea.
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Trolsk
The Murder Plan
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Redundancy
isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
Yes, and interesting to compare it to the film, which was ofc awesome 
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Sanche Tehkeli
Gallente Bionesis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:24:00 -
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Space... I'd like to see Jovians as the Extros from Hyperion. Human beings who went deeply into unknow space, acquiring rare knowledge and starting a new branch of evolution. Dan Simmons' Hyperion, with its fleet battles, the mystery around those special planets and artefactes (the Time Graves), the politics, and all the background... Eve definitely has a fragance from Hyperion.
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:26:00 -
[45]
Originally by: CCP Redundancy
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Hm. Well. Movies: Dune Blade Runner War of the Worlds A Scanner Darkly 2001 2010 I,Robot NightFall Fahrenheit 451 Illustrated Man Slaughter-house Five
"A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
Ya, I was just running out a list of Sci-Fi movies that I remember. I find Sci-Fi movies less entertaining than the books. Heck, Eve with all its politics and backstabbing is much more entertaining than most movies nowadays.  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Beowolf Schaefer
Gallente Initrode The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Beowolf Schaefer on 08/10/2007 21:29:48 Check the name . I'm a Niven fan all the way. I have an alt named for a mayor of Terminus from the Asimov Foundation novels.
I also find it great fun to name my ships for obscure ships from these novels too.
Good thread guys.
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Redundancy
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Hm. Well. Movies: Dune Blade Runner War of the Worlds A Scanner Darkly 2001 2010 I,Robot NightFall Fahrenheit 451 Illustrated Man Slaughter-house Five
"A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
Yes Blade Runner is based upon 'do androids dream of electric sheep'
If you like dark sci-fi Id strongly reccomend Alastair Reynolds whose works include:
Chasm City The Prefect Revelation Space Redemption Ark Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days
All set in the same universe but across different epochs.
They're absolutely brilliant imho.
C.
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Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:37:00 -
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Actually, I'm a huge fantasy nut, believe it or not... 
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 08/10/2007 21:44:41
Originally by: Major Dim
What about russian authors? Are any of them actually known outside russia? The classics like Stanislav Lem or the Brother Strugatsky?
Yes I enjoyed Stanislaw a lot, but he is Polish, not Russian.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:47:00 -
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Iain M Banks.
I want a culture ship *cries* ---------------------------------
Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home. |

Shalia Ripper
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:51:00 -
[51]
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: CCP Redundancy
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Hm. Well. Movies:
"A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
Ya, I was just running out a list of Sci-Fi movies that I remember. I find Sci-Fi movies less entertaining than the books. Heck, Eve with all its politics and backstabbing is much more entertaining than most movies nowadays. 
Just to put it all out in the open so people are not confused, let's associate the movies you listed with the correct author (and book if the name of the movie was different)
Dune - Herbert Blade Runner - Philip K. ****, published as "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep...and it makes the movie look like happy fun carebear land War of the Worlds - HG Wells A Scanner Darkly - PKD again 2001 - Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick 2010 - ACC again I,Robot - Asimov. However, the movie has little to no relation to the book, so I will say "some horrid hollywood jack ass that should be shot for what he did here. NightFall - Asimov again. I hope you are not referring to the horrendous 80's version of this. I watched it. And I suffered. Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury Illustrated Man - Ray Bradbury again. BTW, RB expanded Asmiov's Nightfall and The Ugly Little boy short stories into full novels and did a swell job, especially with Nightfall. I recommend them. Slaughter-house Five - Kurt Vonnegut
Did someone above mention Kevin J. Anderson? He is the HACK behind the butchering of the Dune series and is in league with the Devil Himself, Brian Herbert. They both need to STOP before sci-fi fandom starts a lynching mob.
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:01:00 -
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Just to put it all out in the open so people are not confused, let's associate the movies you listed with the correct author (and book if the name of the movie was different)
Dune - Herbert Blade Runner - Philip K. ****, published as "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep...and it makes the movie look like happy fun carebear land War of the Worlds - HG Wells A Scanner Darkly - PKD again 2001 - Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick 2010 - ACC again I,Robot - Asimov. However, the movie has little to no relation to the book, so I will say "some horrid hollywood jack ass that should be shot for what he did here. NightFall - Asimov again. I hope you are not referring to the horrendous 80's version of this. I watched it. And I suffered. Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury Illustrated Man - Ray Bradbury again. BTW, RB expanded Asmiov's Nightfall and The Ugly Little boy short stories into full novels and did a swell job, especially with Nightfall. I recommend them. Slaughter-house Five - Kurt Vonnegut
Did someone above mention Kevin J. Anderson? He is the HACK behind the butchering of the Dune series and is in league with the Devil Himself, Brian Herbert. They both need to STOP before sci-fi fandom starts a lynching mob.
Honestly there haven't been more than a handfull of movies that haven't butchered the sci-fi books they were based on.
The ONLY sci-fi movies based on novels I have seen that I enjoyed were: Fahrenheit 451 1984 Blade Runner Blade Runner was just a wonderful visual feast, 451 was good but just didn't capture the paranoia of the book and 1984 was one of the better films, capturing the pervasive paranoia which was well founded. 
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:04:00 -
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what about the wonder that was Battlefield Earth, the movie!
please note: this is an obvious troll, the movie sucked some serious wormhole 
the book was good though, only thing Ron L Hubbard wrote that wasn't completely dry and boring
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:16:00 -
[54]
man EUREKA RULES!
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...

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Shalia Ripper
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:20:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Tortun Nahme man EUREKA RULES!
word. funny show, doesnt take itself too seriously.
And the chicks are hot. Plus it has Max Headroom. With a dorky accent.
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:26:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Tortun Nahme man EUREKA RULES!
word. funny show, doesnt take itself too seriously.
And the chicks are hot. Plus it has Max Headroom. With a dorky accent.
I love the recent one where everyone gets a case of dumb except for the Sheriff and one or 2 others. That comment where someone says to the sheriff, Jack, I just realized, this is what its like for you all the time, I'm so sorry. That made me LOL.  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Neslo
Gallente DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:28:00 -
[57]
Originally by: CCP Redundancy
"A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
He said Philip K ****.... lol! Forum censors prize winning authors name... ironic.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:33:00 -
[58]
An interesting bit of trivia is that the movie "Blade Runner" is indeed based on DADOES by PKD, but the inspiration for the title comes from a book called The Bladerunner which is by Alan E. Nourse. The silouhette you see of the guy with the gun in the trench coat that everyone associates with the movie is on the hardcover edition of Nourse's book.
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:33:00 -
[59]
One thing I would love to find, even as a special event would be to find a Larry Niven style Ring World. God, that would make all the mining worth it!
Almost. ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:38:00 -
[60]
Originally by: CCP Redundancy
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Hm. Well. Movies: Dune Blade Runner War of the Worlds A Scanner Darkly 2001 2010 I,Robot NightFall Fahrenheit 451 Illustrated Man Slaughter-house Five
"A Scanner Darkly" is Philip K ****, who isn't on that list. Come to think of it, isn't Blade Runner based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", another P.K. **** story?
Yep, as is Minority Report. Philip K. D'u'ck is one of the finest sci-fi authors ever.
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brakespear
Minmatar Wayward Brewing
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:38:00 -
[61]
Banksie, Harlan Ellison, Stephen Baxter, Philip K Asterisk (more the short stories though), Damon Knight, Asimov, Harry Harrison, A C Clarke (before the endless collaborations) and Brian Aldiss where the people who set the scene for me.
Of those, maybe Banks, Ellison, Aldiss, Baxter and Harrison have had an input one way or another into my Eve gameplay (though maybe because they had input to RL too, idk ) -------------------------------------------------- brakespear - the lowest common denominator |

Gone'Postal
Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:48:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Fortior Read Snow Crash ps Neal Stephenson.
Read it, think about it. Then take a look at Second Life or even EVE. That was a book that spelled out the future in unexpected detail :p Hard to think it was written in 1992.
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Iconath
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:04:00 -
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Did anyone mention John Varley?
Originally by: Oveur And indeed, there will be beer 
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 08/10/2007 23:23:16
Don't want to derail the thread into tv shows from the much better books, but tips would be appreciated.
A couple of tv series were mentioned, but are there others you would recommend, besides the obvious.. well, I'll just list what I know.
Star Trek (in all it's variations, some I like, others I don't) Babylon 5 BSG (Orig and new) Stargste (Meh. Movie was decent though) Farscape Firefly (haven't seen it yet, will pick them up soon though. Serenity was good)
So what else? Eureka was mentioned, but it doesn't seem to fit here really, what with not being in space, and maybe even more comedy then anything else?
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:29:00 -
[65]
FFS!
no one mentioned James P. Hogan ???
The giants series is a work of art.
and yes almost everyone here is mentioning really great authors. i could start listing the ones i agree with, but that would be too long of a list.
and no, none of those guys made me wanna play EvE.
Originally by: Admiral Love
Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:33:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Wind Ictiva FFS!
no one mentioned James P. Hogan ???
The giants series is a work of art.
and yes almost everyone here is mentioning really great authors. i could start listing the ones i agree with, but that would be too long of a list.
and no, none of those guys made me wanna play EvE.
Ah, but did your love for Science Fiction attract you to Eve? ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:33:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Jimer Lins on 08/10/2007 23:33:51
Originally by: Wind Ictiva FFS!
no one mentioned James P. Hogan ???
The giants series is a work of art.
and yes almost everyone here is mentioning really great authors. i could start listing the ones i agree with, but that would be too long of a list.
and no, none of those guys made me wanna play EvE.
Hell, I've bought James P. Hogan a Guinness. Very interesting guy.
(edit:typo)
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Thorjak
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Thorjak on 08/10/2007 23:50:51 /me *****s knuckles
hehe I've already written and deleted a bunch of obvious candidates, that leaves: Stephen Donaldson; The gap series
It describes a mode of travel earily similar to EVE and what happens when it goes wrong. The plot isn't too bad either.
Edit: Also try the Piers Anthony Fractal Mode/Chaos Mode Books, Although I enjoyed his Xanth stuff, this is nothing like that at all, a lot darker and deeper
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Haerana
The Republican Guard The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.10.09 00:23:00 -
[69]
space games made me want to play eve online. barely read any sci-fi :( The most sci-fi books i have probably read are the Aliens Vs Predator novels lol. im not a sci-fi geek. I have however read most terry pratchett books in existance. so yay my geekyness has gone back up o/ /fails at sci fi. Here comes the sig.............
Quickfit RIP Much love to the guys that let us test ship setups for so long. but now is the age of EFT! LONG LIVE EFT. |

Lewis Atreides
Caldari House Atreides trade
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Posted - 2007.10.09 00:41:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Tortun Nahme Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 08/10/2007 19:17:32 make that two victims 
edit: and you didn't list Wells in that list, you can't count war of the worlds 
does anyone else remember the war of the worlds tv show that lasted all of what.. ten episodes? 
oh boy do I ever lol. even thou it was bad I still liked it. As for the OP question I think my avatar's name says it all.  **--------**--------------** While blood, carnage, and distruction may be my "happy place" that is nothing like the feeling I get while hauling 2 mill isk in goods thru low sec. |

Icarus Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.09 00:43:00 -
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It's amazing I have yet to see anyone mention one of the best Sci-Fi series ever created. Thank Tor books for screwing up the printing of the issues for their relative limited exposure.
Exordium series, by Sherwood Smith & Jeff Trowbridge.
Phoenix in Flight Ruler of Naught (rare) Prison Unsought Rifters' Covenant (VERY rare) Thrones of Cronos
This series introduces a future society on a vast scale, truly a Space Opera of epic proportions, with a very unique combat system. As someone once compared it: Dune without the dry prose. -
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Dixi Flatliner
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Posted - 2007.10.09 00:49:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Dixi Flatliner on 09/10/2007 00:54:08
Originally by: ChironV , Gibson. 
Funny you should ask That one!!!
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Garrik Doran
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 01:09:00 -
[73]
Sci-fi books definately influenced joining eve. The vivid thoughts of battles with ships hurtling death at each other and little fighters darting around in their line of fire evoked when reading the x-wing series by Stackpole and Allston definitely made eve seem like it could be a great space combat simulator.
Although I was slightly disappointed with the combat system originally it's got a uniqueness in it's own sense that makes you want to keep going regardless of what happens, like near fatal adrenaline rushes.  Why specialize when i can fly everything! |

Wrayeth
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.09 02:27:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/10/2007 02:28:17 I've read a lot of sci-fi, largely the old-school stuff.
Arthur C. Clarke Robert A. Heinlein Larry Niven Frederick Pohl Charles Sheffield Andre Norton C. J. Cherryh
And some newer stuff as well.
David Weber David Drake Kevin J. Anderson Michael Flynn
Lots of others, but those are the ones I can recall offhand (or are sitting on a nearby bookshelf and not hidden behind the hundreds of other books I own). -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire
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Wargercy
Caldari Militaris Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.09 03:54:00 -
[75]
Had it not been for me reading Enders Game, on the tip of some random drunk guy, I would never have played this game. ---------------------- uʍop əpỊsdn pəuɹnʇ ¦pəddỊlɟ ʇoნ əɟỊl ʎɯ ʍoɥ ʇnoqɐ llɐ ʎɹ |

Hannobaal
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.09 04:00:00 -
[76]
I've read a lot of science fiction (mainly the old stuff with Asimov, Heinlein and so on), but it was the similarity to the game Elite that made me want to play Eve when I first heard about it.
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Miz Cenuij
Caldari Simply Smacktackular
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Posted - 2007.10.09 05:31:00 -
[77]
Iain M Banks, without a doubt and without peer the greatest Space Opera writer to date.
I am in the process of reading the books below for the 3rd time, no other author has enticed me back for so much as a second read before.
Consider Phlebas (as Iain M. Banks) Macmillan, 1987
The Player of Games (as Iain M. Banks) Macmillan, 1988
The State of the Art (as Iain M. Banks) Macmillan, 1989
The Use of Weapons (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 1990
Against a Dark Background (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 1993
Feersum Endjinn (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 1994
Excession (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 1996
Inversions (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 1998
Look to Windward (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 2000
The Algebraist (as Iain M. Banks) Orbit, 2004
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Danzig256k
Caldari Mortal Devastating Kin
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Posted - 2007.10.09 07:00:00 -
[78]
well i myself was more of a fantasy reader, mostly DragonLance and other TSR titles.. but i am a huge scifi movie and tv nut. you name it: Stargate, star wars, Babylon 5, star trek, firefly(show and movie) space 1999, battlestar galactica and many more. and since playing became an even bigger scifi dork, heheh
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Danzig256k
Caldari Mortal Devastating Kin
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Posted - 2007.10.09 07:00:00 -
[79]
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Tortun Nahme man EUREKA RULES!
word. funny show, doesnt take itself too seriously.
And the chicks are hot. Plus it has Max Headroom. With a dorky accent.
I love the recent one where everyone gets a case of dumb except for the Sheriff and one or 2 others. That comment where someone says to the sheriff, Jack, I just realized, this is what its like for you all the time, I'm so sorry. That made me LOL. 
that had to be the coolest ep yet, hehe
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Krexus
Amarr Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.09 07:31:00 -
[80]
I've read some SW books Oeh and verne.. OEH and Shogun, wait that aint SF but it's still damn good
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Din Mbas
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Posted - 2007.10.09 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij Iain M Banks, without a doubt and without peer the greatest Space Opera writer to date.
Second that. Banks writes the best epic sci-fi there is and his contemporary stuff is good too. The Bridge is one of my fave books of all time.
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Franga
Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 08:49:00 -
[82]
Peter F. Hamilton (Night's Dawn Trilogy - particularly) and Frank Herbert (Dune series - only the best stuff evah! _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now. |

Shinhan
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.09 09:06:00 -
[83]
One book that hasnt been mentioned yet, Accelerando (still reading it).
One of the nifty concepts in it are near future humans using exocortex. That is, more and more of "thinking" is done by artificial computing outside of your actual brain.
In general I prefer Military Sci-Fi. I think I read almost every Military Sci-Fi book there is.
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Hack Causality
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Posted - 2007.10.09 09:47:00 -
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I second Accelerando, gotta be the most spooky-accurate prediction of near future to date. My personal favorite recent author is John Ringo. If you have never read Into the Looking Glass, buy it. Buy it now. |

AeonOfTime
Minmatar Syrkos Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.09 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Plutonian I'm surprised Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle didn't show up anywhere. I've seen nearly all the characters appear in Eve.
I was surprised too - in my case, that particular book was a deciding factor to give EVE a try. Donaldson's universe fits EVE rather well from the solo play point of play (minus any alien races).
The main factor was being able to make a career as a miner, in complete freedom :)
-- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com
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Ter Fordal
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Posted - 2007.10.09 12:09:00 -
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Great thread and some great books. Philip K Phallus is the don and Stephen Baxter is good if you like hard sci-fi as opposed to space opera (Space and Time are both real eye openers, the timeline spans over billions of years).
One conspicuous absence for me is the polish author Stanislaw Lem. He wrote Solaris which has been made into a film twice. My favourite is 'The Futurological Congress', one of the few books that has genuinely shocked me.
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Confuzer
PBA Corporation The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.10.09 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Confuzer on 09/10/2007 12:50:55 Peter F. Hamilton (that's why the server is called Tranquillity right? After the living spacestation?) Alastair Reynolds (who lives 300 meters from my workplace ^^) is who I like best. He has the most scientific approach in his books.
And as I scan this thread I have read most of the writers. I only read SF so the choice is very limited . ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |

MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:17:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Wargercy Had it not been for me reading Enders Game, on the tip of some random drunk guy
That could have been me! Too bad Piggies pulled out Card's brain. What he is turning out now is rubbish.
Carl Sagan deserves a hat tip. For more then just his fiction.
Certainty of death...small chance of success...what are we waiting for? - Gimli |

Ithoriel
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:39:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/10/2007 02:28:17C. J. Cherryh
I loved the Alliance-Union universe and it has some interesting parallels with EVE.
My Impel is called "Finity's End" after one of the ships in the Merchanter fleet.
In the, highly unlikely, event I ever get a carrier it just has to be called the "ECS-5 Norway" 
Must check sometime if "Signy Mallory" is claimed as a name in EVE!
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer Alastair Reynolds (who lives 300 meters from my workplace ^^)
Damn! I and my GF now hate you 
Neal Asher is the only guy to rank alongside Reynolds. If only Eve was a mixture of both there universes! Imagine the AI of Asher in our drones... Finally they would be clever enough to deal with bring released from the drone bay. Dont want any Wolves though in this universe! *shudder*
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:58:00 -
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Wow, I love pretty much every author mentioned. Don't think I saw Poul Anderson, Douglas Adams or Harry Harrison though, I'd add them too.
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Norwood Franskly
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Posted - 2007.10.09 15:40:00 -
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My Favorite Sci-fi Novel is "A Clockwork Orange" by Anthony Burgess in fact it's one of the greatest novels I've ever read. Incredibly well written and absolutely chilling. The ending, which is missing from the Kubrik directed movie is absoutely amazingly to read. The impact this book had on me was amazing, after I finished it I was so strongly affected that I had to go outside and take a walk around the block to clear my head, really one of the most confronting and powerful books I've read.
Ray Bradburry is another author whoose work I've enjoyed.
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Grotel
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:12:00 -
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i read neal asher his polity series of books was good with hilldiggers being awsome
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Alyxa Mahan
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:33:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Qui Shon A couple of tv series were mentioned, but are there others you would recommend, besides the obvious..
Space: Above and Beyond One of the best series ever, ranks right behind B5 on my personal list, and sadly shares the fate of so many other great series cut of by stupid program directors.
Books, hmm, Perry Rhodan, Shadowrun, Battletech, Star Wars (some of the older stuff is surprisingly good). Well, it could be argued the last is fantasy, of which i also read a lot (Jordans death was a major blow). I generally don't read specific authors, except maybe Banks, and definitely Stackpole, of whom i have every single book. Currently i'm into Military SF, David Weber, John Ringo, the stuff.
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Larg Kellein
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:47:00 -
[95]
Other way around for me, actually. I read a bit of sci-fi as a kid, but not much. After starting EVE, I've picked up a few new books here and there and am getting into it again. Primarily everything by Alastair Reynolds, and especially his Revelation Space books. Fantastic stuff.
Originally by: Roy Batty68 My software has wronged me!!! And it's immediately "sorry". Well, ok then. I suppose I'm not so upset at my software if it appologizes.
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Morat XS
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:58:00 -
[96]
I keep waiting for Eve to get a Gangter Class Rapid Offensive Unit. You know the type.. Looks like a *****..fully armed it can **** entire solar systems.

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Saffron Reynoldes
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:39:00 -
[97]
Firefly/Serenity ftw.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:51:00 -
[98]
E. E. 'Doc' Smith. My hero. Inertia-less ships that travel a quarter round the circumference of the galaxy in under a second ftw. Those are Real Men's Inertial Stabilisers. Oh, and unaltered bathtubs that could leave Earth's gravity well.
Also Asimov, Richard K. Morgan, Stephen Donaldson, Neal Stephenson. Many many others, so many I've forgotten most.
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Triana
Gallente MMK Design and Logistic
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:52:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Triana on 09/10/2007 17:54:58 Richard K. Morgan: Altered Carbon, Instant Classic. Richard K. Morgan: Market Forces, good god can this guy do any better?
Peter F. Hamilton: Pandora Star and Judas Unchained, wouhou Neal Stephenson: Snowcrash, nuff said And the daddy: John Brunner, The Shockwave Rider. I think this was the first book to extrapolate the existence of computer viruses and worms....in 1974
to answer the other question one of my character is inspired by Quellcrist Falconer, the revolutionary leader in the takeshi kovacs books (altered carbon, broken agels, woken furies), i dont think any character has ever been closer to the idea i have of a true revolutionary leader.
-- War is like any other bad relationship. Of course you want out, but at what price? And perhaps more importantly, once you get out, will you be any better off? |

J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Triana Edited by: Triana on 09/10/2007 17:54:58 Richard K. Morgan: Altered Carbon, Instant Classic. Richard K. Morgan: Market Forces, good god can this guy do any better?
Peter F. Hamilton: Pandora Star and Judas Unchained, wouhou Neal Stephenson: Snowcrash, nuff said And the daddy: John Brunner, The Shockwave Rider. I think this was the first book to extrapolate the existence of computer viruses and worms....in 1974
to answer the other question one of my character is inspired by Quellcrist Falconer, the revolutionary leader in the takeshi kovacs books (altered carbon, broken agels, woken furies), i dont think any character has ever been closer to the idea i have of a true revolutionary leader.
See, you're cultured *nod*
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Cemetary
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:06:00 -
[101]
Philip K. **** had the sickest and most innovative ideas in sci-fi IMO. I'm in the process of reading all his short stories, starting with the ones published in the 50's.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:13:00 -
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David Weber - The Honorverse, some excellent written tactical combat being written there.
Start with "On Basilisk Station" if you want to begin reading.
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Jonathan Calvert
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 09/10/2007 18:17:15
Originally by: Confuzer Edited by: Confuzer on 09/10/2007 12:50:55 Peter F. Hamilton (that's why the server is called Tranquillity right? After the living spacestation?) Alastair Reynolds (who lives 300 meters from my workplace ^^) is who I like best. He has the most scientific approach in his books.
And as I scan this thread I have read most of the writers. I only read SF so the choice is very limited .
Hamilton was the tipping point for sending me to Eve and Im reading Revelation Space right now. Also Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein, Adams.
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Kage Psychodin
Caldari The Empire Nation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:31:00 -
[104]
I can say other MMOs really pulled me to it. I liked the ideas of greatly player controlled games, and sadly, I never heard of eve until early 2007. =( Another one bites the dust. |

Haradgrim
Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:34:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Haradgrim on 09/10/2007 18:36:31
Originally by: Scilent Enigma
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: ChironV
Originally by: Tortun Nahme what are authors?
are those the people that make the tv shows?
Authors such as Isaac Asimov, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Frank Herbert, William Gibson, David Weber, David Drake, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster.
Ring any bells?
what shows did they make?
Asimov wrote I Robot (which were brutally butcherd into a movie), Frank Herbert wrote the Dune Saga (which has been brutally butcherd into movies and tvshows), William Gibson wrote Neuromancer (which was also butcherd into a movie with Keanu Reeves for some outlandish reason). The others I don't recognize...
Neuromancer was never made into a movie, that was the short story "Johnny Nemonic" which was made into a terrible, horrible, godawful movie by the same name (hint to all future sci-fi directors / casting personel: do not hire either Keanu Reeves or Ice Cube for sci-fi movies, epic, epic fail!)
I think it would be very difficult to make Neuromancer into a movie because a) the expectations, b) it would be impossible to stay 100% true to the book (smuggling a few MB of RAM just doesn't seem as romantic anymore)
On the other hand, I would love to Pattern Recognition made into a movie, it just screams for it. W.G. FTW
To answer the OPs question:
Asimov, the spector of Salvor Hardin looms large over us all! --
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Troezar
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:47:00 -
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The promise of ELITE (if you're old you'll remmeber it!) on steroids did it for me. The only downside I see to EVE is that you rarely see ships up close, usually tiny dots in the distance unlike the great trailers.
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Drizit
Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:47:00 -
[107]
OK anyone mention Piers Anthony? Famous for a few fantasy novels (namely the Xanth series) but also a sci-fi writer too.
Anne Mc Caffrey and of course Asimov, Frank Herbert of Dune fame.
However, it was my love of space sims that got me into Eve. Starting way back with Elite and going through Starlancer, Tachyon - The Fringe and Freelancer to name but a few.
Sadly so few new titles in the space sim genre have been released recently. --
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:05:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Haradgrim I would love to Pattern Recognition made into a movie, it just screams for it.
Really? To me it seemed kinda boring. The main character does something hip and girly then goes to sleep every five pages. The Bridge Trilogy would rock though.
Certainty of death...small chance of success...what are we waiting for? - Gimli |

Scimon Tinker
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:27:00 -
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hey hey
I actually cant stand reading sci-fi but love watching it.
a couple of oddments for you guys though.
"The Twonky" by Henry Kuttner "The War With the Fnools" by Phillip K. ****
Both Short stories and should make you laugh:)
When it comes to Sci-Fi im often shocked noone mentions Arthur C Clarke and also people are forever quoting the big hitters "Dune" etc etc. What about anime ?
Akira, Bubblegum Crisis, Appleseed,
I even totally enjoyed Final Fantasy : The Spirits Within
Sci-Fi as a genere is HUGE its a shame the books just dont cut it for me. Sci-Fi is very visual and i think as a fan of the more visual side EVE certainly drew me in cause of those flying minmatar rust buckets i adore so much :)
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Plutonian
Plutonian Shore
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drizit However, it was my love of space sims that got me into Eve. Starting way back with Elite and going through Starlancer, Tachyon - The Fringe and Freelancer to name but a few.
Sadly so few new titles in the space sim genre have been released recently.
Sci-fi television probably got me started; Star Trek (the original) Space 1999 and, later, Battlestar Galactica (the original). Movies and books followed (2001, Star Wars, etc.). If it had spacecraft, no matter how bad the plot, I'd sit through it. 
Which, of course, meant a love for space sims. From Elite to Wing Commander (whole series... especially Privateer I and II), Tachyon, Freespace, all the way to my favorite: the Independence War series.
Sadly, after I-War and EoC (the sequel), it seemed what space sims arrived were 'dumbed down' to point and click. I never sought more simplistic space sims... I wanted the opposite.
Stayed away from Eve for a very long time due to the mouse controls and brightly colored nebula backgrounds. From the outside, the game looked like an online version of Freelancer.
Finally decided to try it out on the trial, sure that I would hate it, but ended up staying. It's the complexity and diversity which keeps it going for me.
So, books and television and movies and space sims all added up to my current obsession with Eve.
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Beowolf Schaefer
Gallente Initrode The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:43:00 -
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If any of you are audiobook addicts like I am, I highly recomend taking a look at this.
Link
Great story telling and just seems to fit so damn well with the eve universe.
Please check it out if you get a chance.
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:56:00 -
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If you are like Sci-Fi with a Military slant, check out "Mutineer's Moon" and "Armaggedon Inheritance" by David Weber. If I had a wish I would wish for battleships and dreadnaughts like those in the book. Of course Eve would have to handle the lag of 100,000 ships mixing it up at once. But we can dream!  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Stan Torres
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Posted - 2007.10.09 23:50:00 -
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I started playing EVE because I needed something a bit more laid back. I've been playing Call of Duty for 3 years so this is my first mmo. Elves do nothing for me so I thought I would try this. The details in this game is what has dragged me into it, which is not surprising as my favourite type of book is the Technothriller. Early Clancy books are fantastic and Red Storm Rising is a must for any military heads out there. Regarding Sci-fi books I've read a few but most of them are a let down for me. Last sci-fi book I read was Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan which was ok, but give me a techno-thriller anyday 
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Rinwar
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:28:00 -
[114]
Stephen Donaldson's "Gap Series"
The comparisons between the two can be startling at times. Replace Jovian with Amnion, Warp Drive with Gap Drive .. etc
Even in the first book there's a lone pirate who wipes out some miners, brilliant! 
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.10 17:12:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Cailais
If you like dark sci-fi Id strongly reccomend Alastair Reynolds whose works include:
Chasm City The Prefect Revelation Space Redemption Ark Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days
All set in the same universe but across different epochs.
They're absolutely brilliant imho.
C.
I was surpriced that no one had mentioned Alastair Reynolds. His books are the best sci-fi I've read so far.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar MKS Directorate
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Sky Grunthor Peter F Hamilton David Feintuch Steven Barnes Kevin J. Anderson Michael A Stackpole Deborah Christian Timothy Zahn Pamela Seargent (who started my love affair with sci-fi books and reading in general) S.M. Stirling Dan Simmons Harry Turdledove Ben Bova David Brin Greg Bear William Shatner (I hate mentioning him on principle but he did a short series that I did enjoy) and many many more. I read alot.
How can you recommend some of these authors?
As in my post above, Kevin J. Anderson needs to be STOPPED as he is a talentless HACK that I wouldn't let write a book report on a **** and Jane book.
Shatner's Tek Wars was one of the worst concieved series ever. The start of the 2nd book almost made me vomit. However, the made for TV movie starring Greg Evigan (from My Two Dads, the one that was not Paul Reiser) was actually better, proving that Shatner might be able to pen a TV movie, but should not be in novel form.
Ben Bova write OK sci-fi, but his characterization is weak and formulaic.
Harry Turtledove does OK alt universe stuff, but nothing really groundbreaking.
I can't believe no one has mentioned Gordon ****son. OMG, the man was a genius, everything from the Dorsai! series to Wolf and Iron. Way of the Pilgrim is also a fave of mine.
Ans while I like Timothy Zahn ( for his COBRA series as well as making some of the best characters to hit the Star Wars universe) and Mike Stackpole (some of the best Mechwarrior books were done by him), they are OK authors and don't measure up to some of the greats.
I agree on Shatner... I was talking of another series he did and I think I called the fact that I grudgeingly put him in there on basis of one specific series. even if I can't remember the series.
As to your estimation Anderson... I have to completely disagree with you. Just a matter of preference on that regard.
Gordan ****son... yah I had him in the post of the window I actually accidentally closed. Loved Dorsai stuff and especially Final Encyclopedia.
Did I mention Greg Bear?
As to how I can recomend these authors... They are what I like to read but don't have to be what you like to read. I've probably read all of those you've read or at least 90% of them. And everyone is entitled to their own preference.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:35:00 -
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I found some David Weber on a (apparently legal) website and it's pretty good. You guys listing him would, I imagine, enjoy Excession and Consider Phlebas by Iain M Banks if you haven't read them already.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 19:00:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Scimon Tinker hey hey
I actually cant stand reading sci-fi but love watching it.
a couple of oddments for you guys though.
"The Twonky" by Henry Kuttner "The War With the Fnools" by Phillip K. ****
Both Short stories and should make you laugh:)
When it comes to Sci-Fi im often shocked noone mentions Arthur C Clarke and also people are forever quoting the big hitters "Dune" etc etc. What about anime ?
Akira, Bubblegum Crisis, Appleseed,
I even totally enjoyed Final Fantasy : The Spirits Within
Sci-Fi as a genere is HUGE its a shame the books just dont cut it for me. Sci-Fi is very visual and i think as a fan of the more visual side EVE certainly drew me in cause of those flying minmatar rust buckets i adore so much :)
It is exactly the opposite for me. I can barely tolerate the majority of movies or TV shows that claim to be sci-fi, as the written universes are far more "real" to me.
I realized that in previous posts I never really answered the question. Maybe. I guess so. But then a lot of my gaming has also been sci-fi themed so that contributes as well.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 19:02:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Sky Grunthor
I agree on Shatner... I was talking of another series he did and I think I called the fact that I grudgeingly put him in there on basis of one specific series. even if I can't remember the series.
As to your estimation Anderson... I have to completely disagree with you. Just a matter of preference on that regard.
Gordan ****son... yah I had him in the post of the window I actually accidentally closed. Loved Dorsai stuff and especially Final Encyclopedia.
Did I mention Greg Bear?
As to how I can recomend these authors... They are what I like to read but don't have to be what you like to read. I've probably read all of those you've read or at least 90% of them. And everyone is entitled to their own preference.
It was partially tounge in cheek. But I still think Anderson is a hack. ;)
Greg Bear is good stuff. I like David Brin too. For a good laugh compare his Postman to the drek that "Apocalypse" Costner made. The book is tons better.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar MKS Directorate
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Posted - 2007.10.10 21:33:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Sky Grunthor
I agree on Shatner... I was talking of another series he did and I think I called the fact that I grudgeingly put him in there on basis of one specific series. even if I can't remember the series.
As to your estimation Anderson... I have to completely disagree with you. Just a matter of preference on that regard.
Gordan ****son... yah I had him in the post of the window I actually accidentally closed. Loved Dorsai stuff and especially Final Encyclopedia.
Did I mention Greg Bear?
As to how I can recomend these authors... They are what I like to read but don't have to be what you like to read. I've probably read all of those you've read or at least 90% of them. And everyone is entitled to their own preference.
It was partially tounge in cheek. But I still think Anderson is a hack. ;)
Greg Bear is good stuff. I like David Brin too. For a good laugh compare his Postman to the drek that "Apocalypse" Costner made. The book is tons better.
I agrea whole heartedly with your estimation on the comparison of "The Postman". However I do love the movie for the movie itself. "The Postman" is one of my top 5 books of all time having reread the book a good 20+ times over my 30 years (22 of them reading sci-fi and fantasy). It was a hard feat to achieve convincing myself to look at the movie "The Postman" and not see the rotting corpse of David Brins briliant novel. But once I was able to see the movie without that association I appreciated it for itself and consider it a great movie in its own rights. But again that is only because I have made a consiouse and difficult decision not to relate the two.
Unfortunatly that leap of dissasociation is near impossible for Lord of the Rings.
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Vladimir Ilych
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.10.10 21:52:00 -
[121]
my favs
Iain M Banks - Culture Dan Simmons - Hyperion A C Clarke - 2001 William Gibson - Sprawl Alastair Reynolds - Ultras, Conjoined, Demarchists, Inhibitors Frank Herbert - Dune Stephen Donaldson - Gap
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Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.10 21:54:00 -
[122]
(Too lazy to read all pages before posting >.>)
I dont read much.. so i havent really read any sci fi books. But i gotta say, theres one show that really makes me want to go fight large fleet battles after watching it, Battlestar Galactica. I just love that show, and tbh i think it was the reason i ended up getting in a dread at a little over 1 yr old >.>
Too bad the lil fleet fight fantasies get ruined when i fly in EVE and get smacked in the face by lag :(
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Monique Dunquerque
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Posted - 2007.10.10 22:11:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Monique Dunquerque on 10/10/2007 22:11:07
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych my favs Iain M Banks - Culture Dan Simmons - Hyperion
These.
Hyperion - so good they named a ship after it 
Kurt Vonnegut is my favourite author ever, and although hes not strictly Sci-Fi he needs to be added to this list.
Also Childhood's End by AC Clarke.
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Atomic Atty
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.10.10 22:28:00 -
[124]
My will to play Eve didn't came from a book at all. I'm naturally interested in everything that is space related :)
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ChironV
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.10.10 22:45:00 -
[125]
Edited by: ChironV on 10/10/2007 22:46:17 Edited by: ChironV on 10/10/2007 22:45:52
Originally by: Phoenix Lord (Too lazy to read all pages before posting >.>)
I dont read much.. so i havent really read any sci fi books. But i gotta say, theres one show that really makes me want to go fight large fleet battles after watching it, Battlestar Galactica. I just love that show, and tbh i think it was the reason i ended up getting in a dread at a little over 1 yr old >.>
Too bad the lil fleet fight fantasies get ruined when i fly in EVE and get smacked in the face by lag :(
(Too lazy to read all pages before posting >.>)
I dont read much..
Yup...  ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
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Alyxa Mahan
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Posted - 2007.10.11 14:34:00 -
[126]
Originally by: SoftRevolution I found some David Weber on a (apparently legal) website and it's pretty good.
Probably Baen Free Library, perfectly legal, and an alternate take on the piracy angle (read the introduction), and one hell of a tease! Half the authors mentioned here have books online at that place, and their idea is definitely working, at least in my case. Have fun reading!
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.11 14:53:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Arana Tellen Iain M Banks.
I want a culture ship *cries*
Yes, but will it want you?
(Seconded for Iain Banks)
- Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Taran Summers
The Merovingians
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Posted - 2007.10.11 15:04:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
does anyone else remember the war of the worlds tv show that lasted all of what.. ten episodes? 
Two seasons. |

Franga
Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.13 15:37:00 -
[129]
Seriously - have none of you fools read the 'Dune' series? _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now. |

Robinete Broadhead
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.13 23:24:00 -
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THE HEECHEE SAGA Book One:GATEWAY Book Two:BEYOND THE BLUE EVENT HORIZON Book Three: HEECHEE RENDEZVOUS Book Four: THE ANNALS OF THE HEECHEE By F. Pohl This series is so close to what EVE is, in my option. Asimov was my biggest influnce into Sci Fi. Blade Runner my favortie movie.
for my self i have been reading Scince Fiction since I was in Junoir high (1963) before most of you were born.[:oops: Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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Ydnari
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Posted - 2007.10.13 23:44:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Haradgrim I think it would be very difficult to make Neuromancer into a movie because a) the expectations, b) it would be impossible to stay 100% true to the book
Yes, but the rumour that they're trying to do it anyway resurfaces every few years. Last rumour was that they actually had some money for it, and it's due in 2009... (begin countdown to another epic fail )
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.14 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: ChironV One of the reasons you wanted to play Eve Online? What were the authors you liked and do they influence how you play or roleplay?
For myself I have been an avid Science Fiction reader since grade school. Niven, Asimov, Herbert, Pournell, Gibson and Weber are some of my favoite authors. Im always looking for ingame refrences to sci-fi authors or items from novels.
I'm still searching the Galaxy for a Ringworld and Dahek. 
What about CCP? Are there readers of Sci-fi there? If so how did it influence your design or development of the game?
Iain M Banks.
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Gerard Deneth
Caldari Intel 7
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Posted - 2007.10.18 06:20:00 -
[133]
Originally by: SoftRevolution I found some David Weber on a (apparently legal) website and it's pretty good.
Pretty much all of Dave's earlier novels and collaborations have been released for free in various ebook formats (surf over to Baen Publishing and check out the online library!) as a means of drumming up more interest in various novels. Much better to offer the first book in a series to get you interested rather than a three page snippet at the back of another novel... As well, more enterprising people can find copies online of the CDs that were bound with all the latest Honor Harrington novels, featuring copies of EVERY Honor Harrington novel. And those are legit downloads too...
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