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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2007.10.10 19:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
I find it amusing that ppl who haven't flown the Nightmare are against the changes. I flew it a lot in missions and while I love the ship it is a total ***** to fit and it's damage is subpar no matter what you put on it. Yes, it's versatile and unique but it's outclassed by the Abaddon on one side and the CNR on the other.
No it was not unique. The nightmare was just a TYPHOON!!! BUt slower and that ate more cap, and worse on droens, and slower... aaaa summarize.. CRAP!
Indeed, nightmare was absolute PANTS, besides being the second coolest looking ship (first is the machariel ofc )
I tried to force myself to buy one just for the looks alone (when I had isk ), but after lots and lots of fitting experiments I gave it up completely.
Now the questions are...
Will the T2 "raven" have a similar 100% + 25% bonus with 4launcherslots (effectively having more damage than the CNR, with better resists)?
Will the T2 "apoc" sport a similar bonus while maintaining a solid armor tank?
If #1 comes true, then I see ppl banging their heads shelling out a bil and more on a nightmare
I'm not sure what are ccp's plans to make ships other than the raven variable more useful in missions... right now, I wouldn't choose anything other than a cnr or maybe a sentrydominix for efficient mission running.
Only thing I could think of is major optimal (or falloff) range and tracking bonuses but those could seriously screw up the pvp balance.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.11 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Ghost
Vindicator's bonus for minmatar BS skill is 5% to MWD penalty as apposed to the 10% it currently has on tranq.
WHAT? 
FFS, I'm leaving work and going home to check
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.11 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: Princess Ghost
Vindicator's bonus for minmatar BS skill is 5% to MWD penalty as apposed to the 10% it currently has on tranq.
WHAT?
FFS, I'm leaving work and going home to check
To quote myself...
Vindicator has more cap now in sisi (7912 with max skills instead of 7k on TQ)
Now the minmatar -5% bonus completely negates the 25% penalty of the mwd so after fitting the mwd, cap stays at 7912 (on TQ it doesn't work that way).
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.11 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Brazero
Finally, the current Nightmare on sisi, I have tried everything and I really want to make it work. I have all skills maxed for shield tanking, hell I have all skills maxed for this ship, but there's no way I can do missions like i'm used to.
Where are you having problems exactly? Fitting is ofccurse no issue, tank should be easy as pie.
Due to the sisi mirror I don't have one anymore to test, but besides needing to move a bit to keep transversal down to kill the cruisers, I fail to see a problem, even vs angels.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.12 07:05:00 -
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Why do you think you'll have a problem with the new nightmare as far as DPS or tanking is concerned?
What's your current setup and what's the DPS with it (without drones)?
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