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deadduck1
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Posted - 2004.02.21 21:38:00 -
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This chatlog tells you the story:
[ 2004.02.21 20:51:13 ] deadduck1 > Hey guys, I just bought this account. Can I possibly get a safe passage out of stain?
[ 2004.02.21 20:51:45 ] Etienne > you should be able to :)
[ 2004.02.21 20:52:04 ] Etienne > ask someone to escort you to dss
[ 2004.02.21 20:52:30 ] Darcon > Assuming that's the truth, that char was created only days ago. Save yourself the time and just delete it.
[ 2004.02.21 20:52:50 ] deadduck1 > Uhm its got 7.3Mill skill points
[ 2004.02.21 20:52:54 ] deadduck1 > :]
[ 2004.02.21 20:52:57 ] ian666 > hes on 3.8 sec rating, u cant gain that in a few days tho
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:10 ] almightybig > its a new acct
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:15 ] Darcon > Aye, I see now.
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:23 ] deadduck1 > This char is X-Collective
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:29 ] Darcon > Just a wiped employment history.
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:42 ] ian666 > well not my business, try ur best deadduck
[ 2004.02.21 20:54:18 ] deadduck1 > Can I get safe passage to the next cloning facilty?
[ 2004.02.21 20:54:25 ] deadduck1 > IŠll just clone jump out of here
[ 2004.02.21 21:05:31 ] deadduck1 > please?
[ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho
[ 2004.02.21 21:06:39 ] Pradege D'Hallur > who did you get the account from?
[ 2004.02.21 21:06:55 ] deadduck1 > Why cant i get safe passage 3 jumps to a cloning facility
[ 2004.02.21 21:07:27 ] deadduck1 > the guy told me he quit the collective 3 months ago, and has only logged on to train since then
[ 2004.02.21 21:07:55 ] deadduck1 > He was icelandic if that helps
[ 2004.02.21 21:08:42 ] almightybig > let him go
[ 2004.02.21 21:08:50 ] almightybig > he has a 3.8 sec rating
[ 2004.02.21 21:09:08 ] ian666 > check SA channel
[ 2004.02.21 21:10:19 ] deadduck1 > He also told me this char doesnt have an up to date clone :(
[ 2004.02.21 21:10:33 ] deadduck1 > I just want to get to a cloning facitly and get the hell out of here
[ 2004.02.21 21:10:40 ] Pradege D'Hallur > well just escort him out
[ 2004.02.21 21:10:47 ] Pradege D'Hallur > he comes back then kill him
[ 2004.02.21 21:10:48 ] deadduck1 > you can keep the maller i got with this account
[ 2004.02.21 21:10:50 ] Tsingtau > ok
[ 2004.02.21 21:11:10 ] deadduck1 > ok im safe to undock?
[ 2004.02.21 21:11:26 ] Pradege D'Hallur > yeah i am here but i am not going to fire
[ 2004.02.21 21:11:32 ] Pradege D'Hallur > you will be escorted out of stain
[ 2004.02.21 21:12:47 ] deadduck1 > 9U6 gate?
[ 2004.02.21 21:12:56 ] Pradege D'Hallur > yes
[ 2004.02.21 21:13:05 ] Pradege D'Hallur > plot course and stay on auto pilot
[ 2004.02.21 21:13:38 ] deadduck1 > ok im set to the closest cloning facitly where iŠll clone jump out and leave you a maller
[ 2004.02.21 21:13:48 ] deadduck1 > 05Y3-W
[ 2004.02.21 21:14:26 ] deadduck1 > WTF PLS
[ 2004.02.21 21:14:31 ] deadduck1 > I dont have a clone!
[ 2004.02.21 21:16:17 ] deadduck1 > great. .now i know i can trust stain
I did get away in my pod . .later this explanation was given:
[ 2004.02.21 21:17:45 ] almightybig > we dont want your pod
[ 2004.02.21 21:17:50 ] deadduck1 > right
[ 2004.02.21 21:18:00 ] deadduck1 > thats why im recharging the shield of it
[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot
[ 2004.02.21 21:18:38 ] almightybig > thats because of the splash dmg from the missiles
[ 2004.02.21 21:19:30 ] deadduck1 > Well you would have gotten a maller with everything in the cargo hold if you woulndt have shot me
[ 2004.02.21 21:19:38 ] deadduck1 > dumb ass
[ 2004.02.21 21:19:53 ] almightybig > i dont need a maller
[ 2004.02.21 21:20:02 ] almightybig > and i did get the loot from your hold
[ 2004.02.21 21:20:07 ] almightybig > :)
[ 2004.02.21 21:20:10 ] deadduck1 > right
[ 2004.02.21 21:20:26 ] deadduck1 > well i guess its a SAFESPOT till further notice
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infinity
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Posted - 2004.02.21 21:49:00 -
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No u are our enemy.
And SA did get info about CA buying deadduck account.
Deadduck was in collective but sold his account to CA person dunno why but when we did get the news we did post u as kos.
enjoy
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deadduck1
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:26:00 -
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The former deadduck told you he had sold his account. He claims he even asked you to grant me safe passage out of SA space. He never said anything about CA untill after I was attacked. When he asked why you guys attacked me. Again: "[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot"
SA = Pirates.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:31:00 -
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[ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho
If thats not a warning your not safe, I dont know what is
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Change the world
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infinity
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:36:00 -
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almightybig did get conformed that u where from Spectre syndicate and would there not get safe passage out of stain.
Stop trying to spin a lie here.
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deadduck1
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:38:00 -
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[ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho
If thats not a warning your not safe, I dont know what is
 Did you read the post backwards? Later they tell me im safe to go.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:45:00 -
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Point is they (SA) said one thing then did another. Its just the lack of honor with all these new members. I miss the old SA guys, atleast they had honor.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 21/02/2004 22:50:51
not they, just almightybig
"the person that did say let him go"
but never did anyone say
"you have passage"
implied oral consent is in no way binding
but your arguement is with almightybig
just cause he is a member of a SA corp doesnt mean all SA is that way
or need we go back to the months of "CA are Pirates" threads again
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
deadduck1
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:52:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 21/02/2004 22:50:51
not they, just almightybig
"the person that did say let him go"
but never did anyone say
"you have passage"
implied oral consent is in no way binding
but your arguement is with almightybig
just cause he is a member of a SA corp doesnt mean all SA is that way
or need we go back to the months of "CA are Pirates" threads again
2004.02.21 21:15:00
Ship Type: Maller
Solar System: 4GQ-XQ
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: almightybig (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.4
Corporation: Galactic Foreign Legion
Ship Type: Raven
Weapon Type: 425mm Railgun I
Name: Pradege D'Hallur
Security Status: 1.6
Corporation: Galactic Foreign Legion
Ship Type: Raven
Name: Tsingtau
Security Status: 0.5
Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Ship Type: Blackbird
Ahhhh bakingpowder?
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:55:00 -
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Its just the lack of honor. If you are ok with that, fine by me.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:58:00 -
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my statment still stands, your problem is with the pilots involved
and judging from what infinty said, it was justified
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
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infinity
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Posted - 2004.02.21 22:58:00 -
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Just another CA trying to spin a lie to hurt SA.
they did get info from collective that u where CA.
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:23 ] deadduck1 > This char is X-Collective
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:29 ] Darcon > Just a wiped employment history.
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:42 ] ian666 > well not my business, try ur best deadduck[ 2004.02.21 20:54:18 ] deadduck1 > Can I get safe passage to the next cloning facilty?
[ 2004.02.21 20:54:25 ] deadduck1 > IŠll just clone jump out of here
[ 2004.02.21 21:05:31 ] deadduck1 > please?
[ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho
When ian666 did say this they DID know about who u where so i just say good job fooling ya ass out of base to kill ya :)
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deadduck1
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Posted - 2004.02.21 23:04:00 -
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Quote:
Just another CA trying to spin a lie to hurt SA.
they did get info from collective that u where CA.
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:23 ] deadduck1 > This char is X-Collective
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:29 ] Darcon > Just a wiped employment history.
[ 2004.02.21 20:53:42 ] ian666 > well not my business, try ur best deadduck[ 2004.02.21 20:54:18 ] deadduck1 > Can I get safe passage to the next cloning facilty?
[ 2004.02.21 20:54:25 ] deadduck1 > IŠll just clone jump out of here
[ 2004.02.21 21:05:31 ] deadduck1 > please?
[ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho
When ian666 did say this they DID know about who u where so i just say good job fooling ya ass out of base to kill ya :)
So when the EV guy that convod me after the piracy act to apologize, he knew i was CA? I didnt know you guys were so friendly.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.21 23:31:00 -
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All I am saying is that if CA members did it, we would be lambasted here.
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Sequoyah
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Posted - 2004.02.22 00:06:00 -
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SA=worse than pirates.
Pirates would have the good sense to take the entire ship instead of blowing it up.
Pirates would have the good sense to avoid trying to defend such dishonorable behaviour when faced with transcripts like these.
I don't understand why anyone would trust Stain in any agreement.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.22 00:35:00 -
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All im saying is that some or most alliances would have done the same.
Reverend Necrona |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.02.22 01:00:00 -
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for once Nec, we agree
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.02.22 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mistress D'Malice on 22/02/2004 03:07:37
Edited by: Mistress D'Malice on 22/02/2004 03:06:53
I dont know about you, but when you tell someone to undock and that you wont fire and that they will be escorted out of Stain, that says you are free to go and have safe passage.
Pirate no...COMPLETE lack of honor OR integrity? YES YES YES!
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Papa Cerb
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Posted - 2004.02.22 03:15:00 -
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I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship...
I see no reason to blow him up...
Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me... 
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Marskalkur
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Posted - 2004.02.22 03:59:00 -
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I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship...
I see no reason to blow him up...
Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me...
any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah!
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.22 04:39:00 -
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Quote:
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I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship...
I see no reason to blow him up...
Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me...
any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah!
Alt? No,new account, YES. The point is that if CA did it, we'd have all the old suxxors here with their greased up label maker. That, NOTHING else is the point. If you give your word, then break it you have no honor.
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Lord Zith
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Posted - 2004.02.22 06:21:00 -
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The former deadduck told you he had sold his account. He claims he even asked you to grant me safe passage out of SA space. He never said anything about CA untill after I was attacked. When he asked why you guys attacked me. Again: "[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot"
SA = Pirates.
This is so wrong and you know that . The Former Dduck never Said anything about safe passage out of Stain . He said you were this Char was located and thats it and you know the rest . So stop with this lies
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Marskalkur
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Posted - 2004.02.22 06:25:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
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I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship...
I see no reason to blow him up...
Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me...
any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah!
Alt? No,new account, YES. The point is that if CA did it, we'd have all the old suxxors here with their greased up label maker. That, NOTHING else is the point. If you give your word, then break it you have no honor.
mucho stupido burrito tacho.
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deadduck1
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Posted - 2004.02.22 06:39:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
The former deadduck told you he had sold his account. He claims he even asked you to grant me safe passage out of SA space. He never said anything about CA untill after I was attacked. When he asked why you guys attacked me. Again: "[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot"
SA = Pirates.
This is so wrong and you know that . The Former Dduck never Said anything about safe passage out of Stain . He said you were this Char was located and thats it and you know the rest . So stop with this lies
Well then you are saying he lied to me 
But anyways, I cruised out of stain when CA totally overrunned Stain a few hours later so now everyone can be happy.
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Rerir
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Posted - 2004.02.22 07:30:00 -
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you're CA. you got killed in stain. what was it you're whining about again?
Lies.
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you made a fool out of ourself here tonight dude... Š· ”ttir a skammast ŠĘn!
Not sure how to make a fool out of "ourself"
IŠve got chatlogs from irc, the former deadduck1 told me you didnt know **** till you destroyed the maller. If you really want to go that far, I can post them. Ask your buddy first to be 100% that he didnŠt tell me, we can drop it here or go on. Its up to you.
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.02.22 08:30:00 -
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Stain is dying anyhow.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.02.22 16:39:00 -
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Well come on, all the real "players" in the CA/SA war, heck in EVE, know that if you are going to move thru a war zone with a Char that is/was "the enemy" then you need to take responsibility for yourself. Begging for safe passage is ridiculous considering that there is at least a slim possibility you are going to:
1) Get your butt shot off
2) Get podded
3) Be ridiculed when you whine on the forums about a bad judgment call that blew up in your face.
Look man, I sympathize. But no alliance can control all thier pilots 23/7. You should have had more smarts and more patience. You should have asked some of the older PvPr's in your corp. I don't mean to be harsh, but I have to agree with Marskalkur
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any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah!
As for tsingtau and EV. No excuses. They are an awesome group doing the best they know. You should have listened to what they told you instead of hearing what you wanted to hear from others.
You were just a casuality of war Dead. Both sides know that the other isn't pirate, that's why this isn't a complete flame thread. We've just been down this same road too many times.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.22 17:29:00 -
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Its almost as bad as agreeing to a 1 v 1 with a person and then getting ganked by 5 people.
There is more honor in the lowest soundrel of CA than there is in the entire Stain Alliance.
But what can you expect, SA is a collection of corporations with a compulsion for lying, backstabbing and treachery
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.02.22 17:46:00 -
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Telling someone that he is safe to pass and than ganking him is just lame.
That's what makes you look like a bunch of pirates.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.02.22 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 22/02/2004 18:04:40
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Telling someone that he is safe to pass and than ganking him is just lame.
That's what makes you look like a bunch of pirates.
I agree that it's lame to blast someone after you "promise" not to. Not my style. But then I'd have told the dumba** that if he pops his head out he better expect to get it shot off  It is war and the goal is to destroy the enemy.
Learn the game, take responsibility for yourself. Like all the quiality PvPr's do.
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Minuz1
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Posted - 2004.02.23 02:38:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 22/02/2004 18:04:40
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Telling someone that he is safe to pass and than ganking him is just lame.
That's what makes you look like a bunch of pirates.
I agree that it's lame to blast someone after you "promise" not to. Not my style. But then I'd have told the dumba** that if he pops his head out he better expect to get it shot off It is war and the goal is to destroy the enemy.
Learn the game, take responsibility for yourself. Like all the quiality PvPr's do.
Who are you talking about quality pvp'ing? opps....gotta get back to denying SA to their previously owned station..... GANKED!!!!
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.23 04:00:00 -
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Its almost as bad as agreeing to a 1 v 1 with a person and then getting ganked by 5 people.
There is more honor in the lowest soundrel of CA than there is in the entire Stain Alliance.
But what can you expect, SA is a collection of corporations with a compulsion for lying, backstabbing and treachery
I don't know whether it's true that the collective did that. However, if they did, it might have something to do with that some CA members did that to a collective member some time ago
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NerisRaven
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:12:00 -
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War is hell
And in this war there seems to be no rules of engangment. It wouldnt be my style to just camp someone out and lie to them. If I'm gonna pod 'em, I eiter tell them or I give them a nasty surprise, but never lie to them
Still, it's proof of a dog eat dog world out there. You trusted, and you paid for it Lameduck. Live with it, you learned from the expierence. It's war, and there are those out their who wil do anything to win that war.
I mean you got to admit, it's a bit suscious when an enemy pilot spawns out of nowhere in the middle of your space. You could have been a scout or something. Plenty of them abouts.
Anyway, whilst I do not approve of the acts, SA or CA, I can't fault them for the tactics. One more notch in the casulties of war.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.23 13:44:00 -
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Please post in English, so we can all participate in the discussion or at least understand it 
Thank you 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.02.23 13:59:00 -
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SA aren't pirates.
I'm a pirate. Yaaaaar!
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fuze
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Posted - 2004.02.23 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: fuze on 23/02/2004 21:17:36
Buying an existing acount is lame.
And selling an account to a faction at war is an act of treason IMHO.
Not having a clone is plain stupid.
To fly out in ennemy territory without thinking about what might happen is dumb.
You should have bought a frigate with enough MWD's and take the risk.
Or you could have bought your way out prolly.
Or should have waited for your buddies to get you out there in couple of hours. But you didn't trust them to take you out there?
There is always a solution. If you're willing to be patient.
It wasn't an act of piracy but an act of war thus justified.
And now crawl back in your pod an continue to train your skills so you can brag about them to your friends.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2004.02.25 04:59:00 -
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Well.. IŠd have to agree in this case with
the SA - if you come to Curse , we/i will snapp
your neck faster then you can say : Donald Duck.
When you enter either Stain or Curse without beeing
a member to either alliances, you are concidered a
trespasser/spy and will be killed on sight.
What you can hope for is a promise from me - if i see you -
that i will not hurt you if you leave diractly , since
i keep my promises.... Unlike SA.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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almightybig
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Posted - 2004.02.25 06:34:00 -
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First things first, You are the enemy and you just admitted to buying an account which is illegal in CCP terms. I did what ever means possible to kill you. You should have been smarter and waited til few players were online. Do you really expect me to believe that CA would have done anything different? I don't think so. Thx for the gr8 loot and we did not pod you which would have been easy if we didn't stop firing torps. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't just pay real money for an account and lose all 7.3mil skill points w/i the first 24hrs. That really woulda sucked for you.
Bottom line is you made a very dumb move by believing the enemy and thought we didn't know who you were.
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Krenshaw
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Posted - 2004.02.25 06:56:00 -
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deadduck1 > Hey guys, I just bought this account. Can I possibly get a safe passage out of stain?
You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Account Transfer as described above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions (such as ebay), newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.
I just want to make sure I am hearing this correctly. Is it alright to sell our accounts?
What for centuries raised man above the beast is not the cudgel but the irresistible power of unarmed truth...B. Pasternak |
The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.25 07:00:00 -
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Quote:
First things first, You are the enemy and you just admitted to buying an account which is illegal in CCP terms. I did what ever means possible to kill you. You should have been smarter and waited til few players were online. Do you really expect me to believe that CA would have done anything different? I don't think so. Thx for the gr8 loot and we did not pod you which would have been easy if we didn't stop firing torps. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't just pay real money for an account and lose all 7.3mil skill points w/i the first 24hrs. That really woulda sucked for you.
Bottom line is you made a very dumb move by believing the enemy and thought we didn't know who you were.
This oozes with ignorance.
1. Its not illegal to transfer an account, infact CCP has guidlines for it.
2. If we say we we'll do/not do something that is our bond.
3. Great loot on a maller? Doesnt matter I'm sure you lost it by now anyway.
4. Even if you had no advanced clone, you dont lose all the skill points.
5. You admitted you lied. Just because you're the enemy does that make you have any less honor?
You sir are a sad example of any alliance. You take a cheap shot, because quite frankily thats all you are capable of. I really am glad that you are the group you are in. Sometimes I feel bad killing an enemy, because I know they probably had nothing to do with it, meerly on the wrong side of the tracks. But, it is ppl like you who feed the CA's rage. Consider yourself on the josh calvert/homo erectus list. The list of ppl that can't engage in big battles, because they will be the first to die. Enjoy.
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Queensryche
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Posted - 2004.02.25 17:28:00 -
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Well Reclaimer - please refer to your #1 comment.
People are allowed to transfer accounts following the protocall set forth by CCP. But he openly admitted to buying the account which is illegal according to the EULA.
Here is the selection in the EULA
7. CONDUCT
B. Selling Items and Objects
You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Account Transfer as described above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions (such as ebay), newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.
Thus - he openly admitted to buying the account, which is not allowed, and I am sure he did not follow the guidelines for transfering accounts set forth by CCP.
So - when are the GM's gonna delete this account and all of his other accounts for violations of the EULA.
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Joviah
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Posted - 2004.02.25 18:32:00 -
[42]
That's not entirely accurate...
Excerpt from portion of EULA follows:
3. ACCOUNT TRANSFER
You are permitted to transfer once, to another person eligible to obtain an Account, all of your rights to your Account, subject to the following (an "Account Transfer"):
(1) You may not offer to transfer the rights to any Account except your own, or act as a ôbrokerö or intermediary (for compensation or otherwise) for anyone wishing to transfer or obtain Accounts.
(2) The transferee must obtain all rights in your Account in a single transaction, and you must retain absolutely no control or rights over the Account, or the characters, items or attributes in that Account.
(3) You must deliver to the transferee your Password, login name, player name and all information regarding your Account (other than personal information such as your credit card number).
(4) You must give the transferee the CD-ROM containing the Software and all original packaging and documentation (including the keycode on the jewel case) associated with the Account, and not keep any part of such materials or any copies thereof.
(5) You must give the transferee a copy of the EULA then in effect, and the transferee must, as a condition to accessing the System or playing EVEÖ through the transferred Account, agree to be bound by all of the terms and conditions of the EULA.
(6) You may not transfer the rights to your Account to any entity or person ineligible to have an Account under the EULA.
(7) You may not transfer the rights to any Account that contains characters whose attributes are, in whole or in part, developed, or which contains items, objects or currency obtained or acquired, in violation of the EULA.
(8) You must notify CCP, via electronic mail at [email protected], no later than five (5) days after the transfer, stating in your notice: (i) that you have transferred your Account and the date of transfer; (ii) your true name; (iii) your current postal address; (iv) your current e-mail address; (v) your login name; (vi) your player name; (vii) your Account number (if any); (viii) the transferee's true name; (ix) the transferee's current postal address; (x) the transferee's current e-mail address; and (xi) that you certify that you transferred all of your rights to the Account to the transferee, and that such transfer complies with all of the terms and conditions in the current version of the EULA.
If you transfer your Account, you will not receive a refund of any prepaid subscription fees for the transferred Account and, depending on when in the billing cycle the transfer is made, and when CCP receives notice of the transfer, you may be charged for an additional billing period.
Any transfer or attempted transfer not in accordance with the foregoing terms is prohibited and void, and shall not be binding on CCP. A transfer or attempted transfer of an Account is entirely at the risk of the parties to such transaction. CCP is not liable to any person (whether transferor, transferee or otherwise) for any acts, omissions, statements, representations, defaults or liabilities of the parties in connection with such a transaction.
This portion of the EULA is specifically referred to even in your post. I quote:
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You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Account Transfer as described above.
I'm not defending ANYONE in this post, nor am I advocating certain actions. I'm simply quoting the EULA.
Ironically enough, people don't usually think of the history of the character(s) they are purchasing when this transaction occurs. And, the EULA does not protect someone from getting ganked after they login to the game after said account transfer. Those individuals that DO purchase an account from another person are still subject to the EULA, as addressed in Article 3, Section 5 as quoted above, and as such are subject to the rules and game mechanics of EVE Online as they stand for every other player.
Joviah
Director, Cirrius Technologies
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almightybig
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:31:00 -
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1. Account transfer and buying an account are two(2) different things. He openly stated and the proof is in his chatlog that he BOUGHT the account. Buying an account is NOT an account transfer. His account should be banned and any other he is associated with should be banned as well. Lets see if the GM's do their job.
2. I verified thru the proper channels that he was a CA guy that bought a former SA account. I knew he was the enemy. DD1 is trying to make himself sound like he is an innocent victim here and he is not. He's the enemy people, so I killed him. Now I only wish I had podded him. You know I'm right when your own alliance agrees with me.
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Lysender
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Posted - 2004.02.26 02:51:00 -
[44]
I've never had any problems in stain. Maybe you rubbed them the wrong way Deadduck1. Or maybe the good people of stain had a bad day. It can happen.
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Vaster
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Posted - 2004.02.26 11:43:00 -
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people, it's just a game. if you would pod a guy with no clone, guess what? your a rat! you may not have figured that out, but thems the facts, mame. if you think podding anyone, for any reason, is a resonable anser to any of you in game problems: you are a rat.
thats how we destinguish you from the normal player. you say "go through here and you may get podded", and we all know you to be a rat corp. it's that simple, eppecialy when the guy tells you HE HAS NO CLONE! what, do you want a road map? he has no clone! who cares if he's lying? what if it was you and your 4 months of time?
stain, hang your head in shame. And curse, and all you other 'alliances' u know you have done the same.
this is how people leave the game after just starting. go check your collective heads
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:01:00 -
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If you suspect someone from having bought or sold items, please file a petition.
I'm locking this thread because it has gone off-topic, alot.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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