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deadduck1	Posted - 2004.02.21 21:38:00 - [1] This chatlog tells you the story: [ 2004.02.21 20:51:13 ] deadduck1 > Hey guys, I just bought this account. Can I possibly get a safe passage out of stain? [ 2004.02.21 20:51:45 ] Etienne > you should be able to :) [ 2004.02.21 20:52:04 ] Etienne > ask someone to escort you to dss [ 2004.02.21 20:52:30 ] Darcon > Assuming that's the truth, that char was created only days ago. Save yourself the time and just delete it. [ 2004.02.21 20:52:50 ] deadduck1 > Uhm its got 7.3Mill skill points [ 2004.02.21 20:52:54 ] deadduck1 > :] [ 2004.02.21 20:52:57 ] ian666 > hes on 3.8 sec rating, u cant gain that in a few days tho [ 2004.02.21 20:53:10 ] almightybig > its a new acct [ 2004.02.21 20:53:15 ] Darcon > Aye, I see now. [ 2004.02.21 20:53:23 ] deadduck1 > This char is X-Collective [ 2004.02.21 20:53:29 ] Darcon > Just a wiped employment history. [ 2004.02.21 20:53:42 ] ian666 > well not my business, try ur best deadduck [ 2004.02.21 20:54:18 ] deadduck1 > Can I get safe passage to the next cloning facilty? [ 2004.02.21 20:54:25 ] deadduck1 > I¦ll just clone jump out of here [ 2004.02.21 21:05:31 ] deadduck1 > please? [ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho [ 2004.02.21 21:06:39 ] Pradege D'Hallur > who did you get the account from? [ 2004.02.21 21:06:55 ] deadduck1 > Why cant i get safe passage 3 jumps to a cloning facility [ 2004.02.21 21:07:27 ] deadduck1 > the guy told me he quit the collective 3 months ago, and has only logged on to train since then [ 2004.02.21 21:07:55 ] deadduck1 > He was icelandic if that helps [ 2004.02.21 21:08:42 ] almightybig > let him go [ 2004.02.21 21:08:50 ] almightybig > he has a 3.8 sec rating [ 2004.02.21 21:09:08 ] ian666 > check SA channel [ 2004.02.21 21:10:19 ] deadduck1 > He also told me this char doesnt have an up to date clone :( [ 2004.02.21 21:10:33 ] deadduck1 > I just want to get to a cloning facitly and get the hell out of here [ 2004.02.21 21:10:40 ] Pradege D'Hallur > well just escort him out [ 2004.02.21 21:10:47 ] Pradege D'Hallur > he comes back then kill him [ 2004.02.21 21:10:48 ] deadduck1 > you can keep the maller i got with this account [ 2004.02.21 21:10:50 ] Tsingtau > ok [ 2004.02.21 21:11:10 ] deadduck1 > ok im safe to undock? [ 2004.02.21 21:11:26 ] Pradege D'Hallur > yeah i am here but i am not going to fire [ 2004.02.21 21:11:32 ] Pradege D'Hallur > you will be escorted out of stain [ 2004.02.21 21:12:47 ] deadduck1 > 9U6 gate? [ 2004.02.21 21:12:56 ] Pradege D'Hallur > yes [ 2004.02.21 21:13:05 ] Pradege D'Hallur > plot course and stay on auto pilot [ 2004.02.21 21:13:38 ] deadduck1 > ok im set to the closest cloning facitly where i¦ll clone jump out and leave you a maller [ 2004.02.21 21:13:48 ] deadduck1 > 05Y3-W [ 2004.02.21 21:14:26 ] deadduck1 > WTF PLS [ 2004.02.21 21:14:31 ] deadduck1 > I dont have a clone! [ 2004.02.21 21:16:17 ] deadduck1 > great. .now i know i can trust stain I did get away in my pod . .later this explanation was given: [ 2004.02.21 21:17:45 ] almightybig > we dont want your pod [ 2004.02.21 21:17:50 ] deadduck1 > right [ 2004.02.21 21:18:00 ] deadduck1 > thats why im recharging the shield of it [ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot [ 2004.02.21 21:18:38 ] almightybig > thats because of the splash dmg from the missiles [ 2004.02.21 21:19:30 ] deadduck1 > Well you would have gotten a maller with everything in the cargo hold if you woulndt have shot me [ 2004.02.21 21:19:38 ] deadduck1 > dumb ass [ 2004.02.21 21:19:53 ] almightybig > i dont need a maller [ 2004.02.21 21:20:02 ] almightybig > and i did get the loot from your hold [ 2004.02.21 21:20:07 ] almightybig > :) [ 2004.02.21 21:20:10 ] deadduck1 > right [ 2004.02.21 21:20:26 ] deadduck1 > well i guess its a SAFESPOT till further notice
infinity	Posted - 2004.02.21 21:49:00 - [2] No u are our enemy. And SA did get info about CA buying deadduck account. Deadduck was in collective but sold his account to CA person dunno why but when we did get the news we did post u as kos. enjoy
deadduck1	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:26:00 - [3] The former deadduck told you he had sold his account. He claims he even asked you to grant me safe passage out of SA space. He never said anything about CA untill after I was attacked. When he asked why you guys attacked me. Again: "[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot" SA = Pirates.
Enraku Reynolt	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:31:00 - [4] [ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho If thats not a warning your not safe, I dont know what is ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa
infinity	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:36:00 - [5] almightybig did get conformed that u where from Spectre syndicate and would there not get safe passage out of stain. Stop trying to spin a lie here.
deadduck1	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:38:00 - [6] Quote: [ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho If thats not a warning your not safe, I dont know what is Did you read the post backwards? Later they tell me im safe to go.
Darkrydar	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:45:00 - [7] Point is they (SA) said one thing then did another. Its just the lack of honor with all these new members. I miss the old SA guys, atleast they had honor.
Enraku Reynolt	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:50:00 - [8] Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 21/02/2004 22:50:51 not they, just almightybig "the person that did say let him go" but never did anyone say "you have passage" implied oral consent is in no way binding but your arguement is with almightybig just cause he is a member of a SA corp doesnt mean all SA is that way or need we go back to the months of "CA are Pirates" threads again ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa
deadduck1	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:52:00 - [9] Quote: Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 21/02/2004 22:50:51 not they, just almightybig "the person that did say let him go" but never did anyone say "you have passage" implied oral consent is in no way binding but your arguement is with almightybig just cause he is a member of a SA corp doesnt mean all SA is that way or need we go back to the months of "CA are Pirates" threads again 2004.02.21 21:15:00 Ship Type: Maller Solar System: 4GQ-XQ System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: almightybig (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.4 Corporation: Galactic Foreign Legion Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: 425mm Railgun I Name: Pradege D'Hallur Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Galactic Foreign Legion Ship Type: Raven Name: Tsingtau Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta Ship Type: Blackbird Ahhhh bakingpowder?
Darkrydar	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:55:00 - [10] Its just the lack of honor. If you are ok with that, fine by me.
Enraku Reynolt	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:58:00 - [11] my statment still stands, your problem is with the pilots involved and judging from what infinty said, it was justified ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa
infinity	Posted - 2004.02.21 22:58:00 - [12] Just another CA trying to spin a lie to hurt SA. they did get info from collective that u where CA. [ 2004.02.21 20:53:23 ] deadduck1 > This char is X-Collective [ 2004.02.21 20:53:29 ] Darcon > Just a wiped employment history. [ 2004.02.21 20:53:42 ] ian666 > well not my business, try ur best deadduck[ 2004.02.21 20:54:18 ] deadduck1 > Can I get safe passage to the next cloning facilty? [ 2004.02.21 20:54:25 ] deadduck1 > I¦ll just clone jump out of here [ 2004.02.21 21:05:31 ] deadduck1 > please? [ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho When ian666 did say this they DID know about who u where so i just say good job fooling ya ass out of base to kill ya :)
deadduck1	Posted - 2004.02.21 23:04:00 - [13] Quote: Just another CA trying to spin a lie to hurt SA. they did get info from collective that u where CA. [ 2004.02.21 20:53:23 ] deadduck1 > This char is X-Collective [ 2004.02.21 20:53:29 ] Darcon > Just a wiped employment history. [ 2004.02.21 20:53:42 ] ian666 > well not my business, try ur best deadduck[ 2004.02.21 20:54:18 ] deadduck1 > Can I get safe passage to the next cloning facilty? [ 2004.02.21 20:54:25 ] deadduck1 > I¦ll just clone jump out of here [ 2004.02.21 21:05:31 ] deadduck1 > please? [ 2004.02.21 21:06:00 ] ian666 > try your best, youre not welcome tho When ian666 did say this they DID know about who u where so i just say good job fooling ya ass out of base to kill ya :) So when the EV guy that convod me after the piracy act to apologize, he knew i was CA? I didnt know you guys were so friendly.
Darkrydar	Posted - 2004.02.21 23:31:00 - [14] All I am saying is that if CA members did it, we would be lambasted here.
Sequoyah	Posted - 2004.02.22 00:06:00 - [15] SA=worse than pirates. Pirates would have the good sense to take the entire ship instead of blowing it up. Pirates would have the good sense to avoid trying to defend such dishonorable behaviour when faced with transcripts like these. I don't understand why anyone would trust Stain in any agreement.
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.02.22 00:35:00 - [16] All im saying is that some or most alliances would have done the same. Reverend Necrona
Enraku Reynolt	Posted - 2004.02.22 01:00:00 - [17] for once Nec, we agree ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa
Mistress D'Malice	Posted - 2004.02.22 03:06:00 - [18] Edited by: Mistress D'Malice on 22/02/2004 03:07:37 Edited by: Mistress D'Malice on 22/02/2004 03:06:53 I dont know about you, but when you tell someone to undock and that you wont fire and that they will be escorted out of Stain, that says you are free to go and have safe passage. Pirate no...COMPLETE lack of honor OR integrity? YES YES YES! Black Lotus Official Forums - www.blacklotusclan.com Contact Me - [email protected]
Papa Cerb	Posted - 2004.02.22 03:15:00 - [19] I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship... I see no reason to blow him up... Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me... ______________________________________________________________________ Do I look like pirate?
Marskalkur	Posted - 2004.02.22 03:59:00 - [20] Quote: I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship... I see no reason to blow him up... Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me... any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah!
Darkrydar	Posted - 2004.02.22 04:39:00 - [21] Quote: Quote: I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship... I see no reason to blow him up... Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me... any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah! Alt? No,new account, YES. The point is that if CA did it, we'd have all the old suxxors here with their greased up label maker. That, NOTHING else is the point. If you give your word, then break it you have no honor.
Lord Zith	Posted - 2004.02.22 06:21:00 - [22] Quote: The former deadduck told you he had sold his account. He claims he even asked you to grant me safe passage out of SA space. He never said anything about CA untill after I was attacked. When he asked why you guys attacked me. Again: "[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot" SA = Pirates. This is so wrong and you know that . The Former Dduck never Said anything about safe passage out of Stain . He said you were this Char was located and thats it and you know the rest . So stop with this lies Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Balmer [OC], wrecking for 1134.4 damage. :-)
Marskalkur	Posted - 2004.02.22 06:25:00 - [23] Quote: Quote: Quote: I wouldn't shot this guy... I mean - he asked a passage to leave region with the best reason I ever saw. He was not dangerous, he even offered to leave hes ship... I see no reason to blow him up... Sorry guy's, but to blow up pilot in Maller, which is begging for 3j safe passage to make a clone jump away seems very coward to me... any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah! Alt? No,new account, YES. The point is that if CA did it, we'd have all the old suxxors here with their greased up label maker. That, NOTHING else is the point. If you give your word, then break it you have no honor. mucho stupido burrito tacho.
deadduck1	Posted - 2004.02.22 06:39:00 - [24] Quote: Quote: The former deadduck told you he had sold his account. He claims he even asked you to grant me safe passage out of SA space. He never said anything about CA untill after I was attacked. When he asked why you guys attacked me. Again: "[ 2004.02.21 21:18:02 ] almightybig > i wanted the loot" SA = Pirates. This is so wrong and you know that . The Former Dduck never Said anything about safe passage out of Stain . He said you were this Char was located and thats it and you know the rest . So stop with this lies Well then you are saying he lied to me But anyways, I cruised out of stain when CA totally overrunned Stain a few hours later so now everyone can be happy.
Rerir	Posted - 2004.02.22 07:30:00 - [25] Quote: you're CA. you got killed in stain. what was it you're whining about again? Lies. Quote: you made a fool out of ourself here tonight dude... ¦· µttir a skammast ¦Ýn! Not sure how to make a fool out of "ourself" I¦ve got chatlogs from irc, the former deadduck1 told me you didnt know ** till you destroyed the maller. If you really want to go that far, I can post them. Ask your buddy first to be 100% that he didn¦t tell me, we can drop it here or go on. Its up to you. Rerir, deadduck1**
Xavier Cardde	Posted - 2004.02.22 08:30:00 - [26] Stain is dying anyhow.
N'Fran D'Larn	Posted - 2004.02.22 16:39:00 - [27] Well come on, all the real "players" in the CA/SA war, heck in EVE, know that if you are going to move thru a war zone with a Char that is/was "the enemy" then you need to take responsibility for yourself. Begging for safe passage is ridiculous considering that there is at least a slim possibility you are going to: 1) Get your butt shot off 2) Get podded 3) Be ridiculed when you whine on the forums about a bad judgment call that blew up in your face. Look man, I sympathize. But no alliance can control all thier pilots 23/7. You should have had more smarts and more patience. You should have asked some of the older PvPr's in your corp. I don't mean to be harsh, but I have to agree with Marskalkur Quote: any CA alt begging for his life in stain should be podded on sight and then slapped by his CEO for being suckah! As for tsingtau and EV. No excuses. They are an awesome group doing the best they know. You should have listened to what they told you instead of hearing what you wanted to hear from others. You were just a casuality of war Dead. Both sides know that the other isn't pirate, that's why this isn't a complete flame thread. We've just been down this same road too many times.
Saladin	Posted - 2004.02.22 17:29:00 - [28] Its almost as bad as agreeing to a 1 v 1 with a person and then getting ganked by 5 people. There is more honor in the lowest soundrel of CA than there is in the entire Stain Alliance. But what can you expect, SA is a collection of corporations with a compulsion for lying, backstabbing and treachery --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003.
Presidio	Posted - 2004.02.22 17:46:00 - [29] Telling someone that he is safe to pass and than ganking him is just lame. That's what makes you look like a bunch of pirates. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
N'Fran D'Larn	Posted - 2004.02.22 18:03:00 - [30] Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 22/02/2004 18:04:40 Quote: Telling someone that he is safe to pass and than ganking him is just lame. That's what makes you look like a bunch of pirates. I agree that it's lame to blast someone after you "promise" not to. Not my style. But then I'd have told the dumba** that if he pops his head out he better expect to get it shot off It is war and the goal is to destroy the enemy. Learn the game, take responsibility for yourself. Like all the quiality PvPr's do.

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