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Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:24:00 - [1] Hey All, I am considering animating the automated territory map as put together by Verite Rendition. First, is there a need/desire for this? Second, has anyone else already done it? Third, I was thinking of using Imagemagick to cut the images into quarters, then mencoder to shove the images into a video file. Anyone think of a better way? -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Contact us in game for ice/rock mining contracts and manufacturing.
Faekurias Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:33:00 - [2] Sounds awesome! :D never heard of before. 1st! MY SIG FTW! \o/
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:36:00 - [3] I was futzing with making an animated map a while back and here's what I found: 1. If you want it to be pretty, put a nice frameblend between each day of the map, to make it smooth. 2. If you want it to be USEFUL, put it in a flash file of some sort with a navigation toolbar and zoom. 3. If you want to not quarter it and just put the whole damn thing in a video file, I would suggest you use a low framerate for compatibility with slower computers. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
CARY Dawn of a new Empire Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:42:00 - [4] WOW!! SOUND GREAT MAN! LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
Sacul Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:43:00 - [5] Somebody did one years back..looked cool but it stopped at the end of 2005 or somewhere close...dont really remember the details but it explained alot of the politics for me in a few minutes... I would be very intereseted tbh The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:45:00 - [6] i did see 1 a week ago, automaticly updated but forgot to bm it . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:55:00 - [7] Edited by: Andargor theWise on 11/10/2007 17:55:02 Yeah, that'd be cool. Your major issues will be viewable size, morphing between versions, and the ability to go forward/back in time. - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated	Posted - 2007.10.11 18:01:00 - [8] Can't wait to see it. Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Corp web site Recruitment Looking for experienced players Looking for new EVE players Services [Service] Killboard hosting [Service] Forum hosting [Service] Web site hosting [Service] Obelisk for rent [Service] Alliance Creation
XiticiX Gallente Kudzu Collective Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.11 18:16:00 - [9] Put it in flash format, host it on a server. Download maps on a daily basis. Have Flash read the downloaded maps from a server directory, sending them to the client. Optionally, have flash check for the most recent map on startup. This will make it automated, and you won't need to release a new version every time a map is released. Will also allow for zoom/notations on the flash file. ~~~ This is my sig. Do you like it? ~~~
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.10.11 18:59:00 - [10] Sadly I do not know enough about video encoding otherwise I would give useful advice. What I would do then would be to use the raw sov data of each day to create the animation - thought that would be quite complicated, I know. Another idea is to use the pic of each day and morph it to the next picture. If you can manage to do that, it would be awesome! But please scale down the resolution, the current size of the map is far too big for a video.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.10.11 19:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Sacul Somebody did one years back ..looked cool but it stopped at the end of 2005 or somewhere close...dont really remember the details but it explained alot of the politics for me in a few minutes... I would be very intereseted tbh That'd be me ;) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Amicus Pauperi ASGARD SECURITY SHIPPING PRODUCTION SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 19:37:00 - [12] Anyone have a link to the old one Serenity did? Economic PvP - Cornering Jita 4-4
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 19:40:00 - [13] I have played around with the automated eve map, and have my own database scripts for displaying alliances as different colors and such. But rendering still can take 5-10 minutes even on my quad coreSo ive been waiting for the optimized map source code to come out Example A bigger eve Annndd..Player Factions
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:09:00 - [14] Edited by: Garat Mant on 11/10/2007 20:12:57 Edited by: Garat Mant on 11/10/2007 20:11:24 Edited by: Garat Mant on 11/10/2007 20:10:29 OK quick and dirty. The North (1.5M) The South (.5M) I used wget to grab the files from sov.eve-dev.net (and eve-files but didn't try them yet). Then mencoder thusly: mencoder mf://.png -mf w=1800:h=2048:fps=25:type=png -vf crop=1800:1024:0:1024,scale=900:512 -ofps 2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=5000 -noskip -nosound -o south.avi Switching the crop y coordinate between 0 and 1024 gives you the north or the south view. Decided against quartering to get the 2 main war zones in full. Comments? Flames? Platonic Backrubs? Edit: uhh, it's in x264 so you'll need that codec installed. I forget that everyone doesn't have mplayer installed* -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Contact us in game for ice/rock mining contracts and manufacturing.
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:17:00 - [15] I suggested someone should do this awhile ago It would have been neat to see a sov change video from the beginning of the war.
Maar T'Kmel Minmatar United Federation of Planets FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:44:00 - [16] Even better if Flash itself could read and process the data, then you could have nice smooth tweens going day to day. Too many vectors you think?
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.11 21:03:00 - [17] Originally by: Maar T'Kmel Even better if Flash itself could read and process the data, then you could have nice smooth tweens going day to day. Too many vectors you think? Well, I don't know the first thing about flash. I'm assuming the sheer number of systems/points would overwhelm any desktop PC trying to render the map in realtime. However a pre-rendered vector map would be very nice. -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Contact us in game for ice/rock mining contracts and manufacturing.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.10.11 21:48:00 - [18] Very nice. Strange that the colors are different in your animation than they are when I pull up the map. I wonder if there is some kind of script that randomly assigns the colors?
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.11 22:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Bish Ounen Very nice. Strange that the colors are different in your animation than they are when I pull up the map. I wonder if there is some kind of script that randomly assigns the colors? I'm using the maps from sov.eve-dev.net/maps - not the ones linked at the top of CAOD. They look slightly different but I found the text easier to read. -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Contact us in game for ice/rock mining contracts and manufacturing.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 23:06:00 - [20] ahh finally :D ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.10.12 00:02:00 - [21] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 12/10/2007 00:02:37 Originally by: Amicus Pauperi Anyone have a link to the old one Serenity did? On the maps forum sticky Direct linkage It's old indeed! Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:07:00 - [22] 3 comments: 1) It looks nice. Hopefully this will be something you keep doing. 2) You're using the wrong containers. For H.264 you should be using MKV or MP4 containers; a lot of applications will have trouble with H.264 in an AVI. Similarly, Windows Media Video should be in a WMV container (and while you're at it, it wouldn't hurt to switch to WMV9 for the codec if you can get away with it). 3) You used the wrong map, you're breaking my heart. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
Talpa Iute Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:24:00 - [23] Hmm is it just me or the links are broken? /Talpa _____________________________________________
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Talpa Iute Hmm is it just me or the links are broken? /Talpa EVE files is currently in a state of quantum flux. Chribba is looking at it as we speak. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:46:00 - [25] I like these kind of animated maps! Great work! But please, don't use the automated map from Mirida, this map isn't accurate as there is many outposts missing Use the automated map from Verite Rendition instead, the outposts are updated, so this map is more accurate ----- > Amongst the Top 10
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:55:00 - [26] I've been waiting for something like this for a long time as it really helps bring EVE alive.
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.12 14:59:00 - [27] excellent work!
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.13 04:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Verite Rendition 3 comments: 1) It looks nice. Hopefully this will be something you keep doing. 2) You're using the wrong containers. For H.264 you should be using MKV or MP4 containers; a lot of applications will have trouble with H.264 in an AVI. Similarly, Windows Media Video should be in a WMV container (and while you're at it, it wouldn't hurt to switch to WMV9 for the codec if you can get away with it). 3) You used the wrong map, you're breaking my heart. 3) I've switched to your maps now :-) 1) It's my intention that once I have this working to everyone's satisfaction (ha!) I will add the couple of commands to a cron job and run them daily. 2) Switched to lavc format output in mencoder; wmv now works, but Chribba doesn't allow mp4 uploads so the x264 videos stay as avi for now. Right now I don't know how to do frame transitions in mencoder, my current weapon of choice. If someone knows of a good, command line linux tool that will do this, let me know. -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Contact us in game for ice/rock mining contracts and manufacturing.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.13 05:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Garat Mant Originally by: Verite Rendition 3 comments: 1) It looks nice. Hopefully this will be something you keep doing. 2) You're using the wrong containers. For H.264 you should be using MKV or MP4 containers; a lot of applications will have trouble with H.264 in an AVI. Similarly, Windows Media Video should be in a WMV container (and while you're at it, it wouldn't hurt to switch to WMV9 for the codec if you can get away with it). 3) You used the wrong map, you're breaking my heart. 3) I've switched to your maps now :-) 1) It's my intention that once I have this working to everyone's satisfaction (ha!) I will add the couple of commands to a cron job and run them daily. 2) Switched to lavc format output in mencoder; wmv now works, but Chribba doesn't allow mp4 uploads so the x264 videos stay as avi for now. Right now I don't know how to do frame transitions in mencoder, my current weapon of choice. If someone knows of a good, command line linux tool that will do this, let me know. -G Use MKV for x264, that will work fine. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.10.13 07:20:00 - [30] Originally by: Garat Mant Originally by: Verite Rendition 3 comments: 1) It looks nice. Hopefully this will be something you keep doing. 2) You're using the wrong containers. For H.264 you should be using MKV or MP4 containers; a lot of applications will have trouble with H.264 in an AVI. Similarly, Windows Media Video should be in a WMV container (and while you're at it, it wouldn't hurt to switch to WMV9 for the codec if you can get away with it). 3) You used the wrong map, you're breaking my heart. 3) I've switched to your maps now :-) 1) It's my intention that once I have this working to everyone's satisfaction (ha!) I will add the couple of commands to a cron job and run them daily. 2) Switched to lavc format output in mencoder; wmv now works, but Chribba doesn't allow mp4 uploads so the x264 videos stay as avi for now. Right now I don't know how to do frame transitions in mencoder, my current weapon of choice. If someone knows of a good, command line linux tool that will do this, let me know. -G Ahh that's right, Chribba limits the file types, I forgot about that. Send Chribba a line explaining what you're doing and what file type you'd like to use, and I'd imagine he'll approve it. Great work, keep it up. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD

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