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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:06:00 -
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it shouldn't be removed but the T2 market shouldn't entirely rely on technetium, heh |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:07:00 -
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it's obvious that you don't know anything about the t2 market though lmao |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:08:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:not that of some alliance leader scooping billions in moon goo?
kleptocratic alliances like that tend to fail under the pressure of an invasion
see white noise |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:09:00 -
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Ned Black wrote:The major problem with moon mining is that it is completely static. If you have a tech moon then you have free isk in abundance.
All they would have to do is to make them switch moon goo around a bit now and then. That super duper tech moon suddenly runs dry and starts spouting the least valuable moon goo of all and just as suddenly that little miniature alliance in the back end of nowhere suddenly has a moon that is pure gold... and then after exploiting that moon for a while it runs out as well... that really is all the "nerf" you need.
this would only screw up the T2 market even further when there's a choke on supply after the periodic "moon rotation" or whatever where everyone and their mother is out scanning moons for the next month
moon rotation would be a terrible mechanic |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:11:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:Ned Black wrote:The major problem with moon mining is that it is completely static. If you have a tech moon then you have free isk in abundance.
All they would have to do is to make them switch moon goo around a bit now and then. That super duper tech moon suddenly runs dry and starts spouting the least valuable moon goo of all and just as suddenly that little miniature alliance in the back end of nowhere suddenly has a moon that is pure gold... and then after exploiting that moon for a while it runs out as well... that really is all the "nerf" you need.
Also a good idea. would certainly cause massive conflicts and battles, which hey isnt that what 0.0 peoplez want? <--- yes with a z KOZZZZZ
have you ever left highsec |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:15:00 -
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clearly there are no massive conflicts and battles taking place over moons, nope not at all
the drf took over the north for gudfitez |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 13:31:00 -
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how about making racial R32s be used in the production of intermediate racial t2 components
holy hell i solved the whole problem, give me a cushy job, CCP |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 13:55:00 -
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lilol' me wrote:alliances should be made to work for it! Simple as. The issue is that moons have stayed in the same place, so all the nullsec alliances no the location of pretty much every moon in eve, null, empire and low sec, and they have taken THEM ALL!!! its a fecking joke! and you know what there is nothing you can do about it. When you have 1000 supers or sub caps willing to defend the pos at all costs.
alliances don't tend to nationalize lower-end moons, you can easily find untowered lower-end moons and extract them at a profit
if you're asking why you can't get a personal tech moon, you're a hypocrite
lilol' me wrote:Moons should be randomised every 3 months. So that you have to actually go and work for them, spend time building and moving poses, going to actually find them! and also give the little guy a chance to hit the jackpot now and again. Even just for a few months! its totally totally wrong how unbalanced and unfair moongold works at the moment..
and every 3 months the T2 market would screw up as every goddamn region has to be scanned again, and who do you think has the advantage when coordinating large-scale, region-wide moon scanning? heh
lilol' me wrote:and if i get a comment, that you expect ppl to up poses and move them, damn right i do! you think making billions a month for doing sweet FA is right? work for your damn money...There will be less throw away ships and battles also. Perhaps alliances will think tactically instead of blobby and know that hey dont worry we lose 10 supers we have 100 in the hanger to insta replace.
I don't consider the hours spent fueling towers, emptying silos and shipping to market as "sweet **** all," do you?
lilol' me wrote:Consequences! Risk vs Reward aint that what eves about? doesnt seem the case for the large nullsec alliances now does it!
because moon mining is totally risk free and effortless |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:35:00 -
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I'm not going to bother to quote when you don't bother to split quotes, ugh:
CCP has not added tech moons to the game since they added the Black Rise region in the Empyrean Age, FYI, and that was several expansion cycles before Technetium became the primary bottleneck.
Large alliances don't gobble up every moon that coughs up the slightest margin. Lower-end moons are mined by smaller alliances or even individual corporations, for reaction chains.
If the market is dependent on a few depleting stockpiles over a significant period of time (two weeks to a month) the prices will skyrocket. Also, supercapitals are T1 hulls, the intermediate capital components do not require T2 components to build.
Correct, alliances have logistics teams. Isn't it hard to believe that an organized logistics team with delegated responsibilities can be efficient? Wow.
The large alliances like Morsus Mihi and RAZOR which held massive numbers of tech moons across the north? Gee, I wonder what ever happened to them. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:51:00 -
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Orion GUardian wrote:I wonder: Why do people think moonmining would give the normal nullsec player ANYTHING?
Unless you are an Alliance CEO that skims of his fellow mates (and steals from the alliance at that) you have no gain whatsoever from Moons. Most Alliances I know put their moonincome into "Ship replacement Programs"to defend into subsiding Capital ships to defend, paying for sov to hold an defend some more.
I would doubt that from 10*7B/month Moons a rich alliance may own only 1% is going into someones pockets to get rich. Unless ofc your alliance CEO is an ass which may as well be the case for alot of allies I don't see the audits ;) But the normal Nullsec player will enver see a single ISK of that unless he gets a ship replaced he LOST during defense
"We'll reimburse any ship loss you take while PvPing."
"Here's your monthly stipend from our tech income."
Which of those two would you say promotes more activity? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:17:00 -
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Captain Carius wrote:What an innocent bunch you people are.
You know, if I was an investor that was really focussed on making money out of a game like EVE, I wouldn't change the moons because it is one of the primary mechanisms designed into the game that funnels isk into the Zero RMT Corps that supply RMT websites. Furthermore, I would own and operate those RMT Corps and websites through third party ownership and farm the crap out of it. Then I would charge players in the game monthly isk "rentals" to participate as a defender of the isk printing Zero RMT operations. So those players not only pay a monthly subscription fee for Eve, but they are also being farmed for additional isk.
Now that would truly be the greatest scam of New Eden's history.
But , of course, this could never happen, could it?
nope because they really wouldn't last long as a sov-holding entity |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:29:00 -
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Captain Carius wrote:Andski wrote:Captain Carius wrote:What an innocent bunch you people are.
You know, if I was an investor that was really focussed on making money out of a game like EVE, I wouldn't change the moons because it is one of the primary mechanisms designed into the game that funnels isk into the Zero RMT Corps that supply RMT websites. Furthermore, I would own and operate those RMT Corps and websites through third party ownership and farm the crap out of it. Then I would charge players in the game monthly isk "rentals" to participate as a defender of the isk printing Zero RMT operations. So those players not only pay a monthly subscription fee for Eve, but they are also being farmed for additional isk.
Now that would truly be the greatest scam of New Eden's history.
But , of course, this could never happen, could it?
nope because they really wouldn't last long as a sov-holding entity and that would be because????
"Hey guys our sov is under attack, I expect you all to fight for it without reimbursements or any ship replacement whatsoever" |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:31:00 -
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sasuk wrote:put moon goo in 0.5 and 0.6 systems that would sort out the issue lol
ahahahahah no |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 18:17:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:risk free pvp?? i know we shall just lose 200 ships, dont worry theres plenty more... gtfo... you basically saying shoot and lose as much as you want with no consequences?
nobody asked for your worthless forum alt opinion |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.24 18:21:00 -
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Captain Carius wrote:Except that the RMT Corp is manned by chinese who work for fish tacos and bankrolled by the RMT websites for which this is a business and not your SOV chestbeating rights. Sorry, you lose. (If this isn't so Goon, then why haven't you wiped out the Russian element yet? Or is Novator and company too good for your Leet skills to deals with. Or maybe, just maybe, the Goons are in on it too? Nooo, couldn't be.)
maybe you haven't noticed but we kinda kicked white noise out of branch
now who the **** is novator |
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