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Public Agent CP Navy Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:41:00 - [1] Edited by: Public Agent on 13/10/2007 22:45:18 The Slammer's Republic is formally surrendering to Aza under the following conditions: -Slammer's will remove all assets from Providence region. -The removal will begin starting from the moment of a confirmation post from Aza over the subsequent 7 days. -During the period of removal, Slammers will set Aza to blue... including Blackguard, ENH and Repo themselves. -In the event of a Slammers rogue pilot action, Slammers agrees to recompense any hostile action against ENH, Blackguard or Repo during this time. -Aza will post a confirmation reply on these forums, this will start the removal clock. -Aza (Repo, ENH, Blackguard) will turn slammers to blue during the period of removal. -Aza may at their convenience support sensitive evacuation operations for Slammers. -Aza will defend Slammers operations as a general rule as they would an ally during the period of removal. -In the event of an Aza rogue pilot action, Aza agrees to recompense any hostile action against Slammers. Public Agent: CP Navy, SLAM Praetor and Diplomat for Slammers Republic Endorsed by Alois Hammer
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:48:00 - [2] PIE Inc recently extended positive standings to Slammer's Republic as a matter of courtesy. You may now consider those standings to be negative. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:51:00 - [3] The Sani Sabik accepts the Surrender from Slammer's republic and expects the complete evacuation from Providence at the date specified. AzA Project under Sani Sabik operations will move to the next target and a declaration will be coming soon. I would like to thank all allied forces who joined us in this campaign. Signed Revan Neferis Alchemy for a New World Order .^.
Aslovi Caldari Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:19:00 - [4] Let us be clear AzA only involves REPO. ENH and Blackguard helped on ops and without them this would not have been possible. However REPO does not speak for them or their leadership. We have offered help Slammers coordinate operations to leave Providence Region. But we will not be held responsible for any ship loses you pilot incurr at the hands of ENH or Blackguard. My sugguestion would be get out of prov until we can help you pack up and leave safely. (grabs the brown tape and carboard boxes)
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:25:00 - [5] Originally by: Aslovi Let us be clear AzA only involves REPO. ENH and Blackguard helped on ops and without them this would not have been possible. However REPO does not speak for them or their leadership. We have offered help Slammers coordinate operations to leave Providence Region. But we will not be held responsible for any ship loses you pilot incurr at the hands of ENH or Blackguard. My sugguestion would be get out of prov until we can help you pack up and leave safely. (grabs the brown tape and carboard boxes) Signed and confirmed. AzA group 1 constitutes of REPO and Sani Sabik. members of Terminus est and allied forces are to do their own declarations on this regard. To slammer's, Good luck on whatever future you will seek from now on. Alchemy for a New World Order .^.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:45:00 - [6] Slammer's Republic are invited to discuss normalisation of standings with the forces currently engaged in Operation Terminus Est. Points of contact are: Jade Constantine or The Cosmopolite for the Star Fraction alliance. Sinrath for the Eternal Rapture alliance. On confirmation that Slammer's Republic no longer considers pilots of these alliances to be 'red' targets we will review our own standings with a view to returning Slammer's Republic to neutral status and therefore no longer a target under our NRDS RoE. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Jonny Damordred Stimulus	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:38:00 - [7] Stimulus acknowledges your pull-out of Providence and resets your standings to neutral. We reserve the right to set your standing to hostile in the event of aggression or the aiding/abetting of CVA operations in the area. Stimulus wishes you the best in your future outside of Providence. Love and Ganking, Jonny Damordred Head of Gunboat Diplomacy, Stimulus. ----------
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:43:00 - [8] Due to Slammer's republics cowardice and collaboration with the enemies of the Ammatar Mandate and the empire Delictum 23216 has set Slammer's Republic to negative. This status will remain until the Slammer's Republic either revokes their despicable treaty with Blood Raider cultists and pirates or have evacuated all static assets and no longer holds sovereignty within the borders of Providence or the Mandate. You say you've fought for as long as you can, yet when leave you leave under the umbrella of the enemies of the Ammatar Mandate and the Amarr Empire. Collaboration with the enemy will not be tolerated. Denique Ammataria! Note: Delictum 23216 speaks only for Delictum 23216, no one else. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:43:00 - [9] Quote: Slammer's Republic are invited to discuss normalisation of standings with the forces currently engaged in Operation Terminus Est. Just out of curiosity Cosmo I recall Revan mentioning just the other day that SaniSabik will continue to fire on enemies even after surrenders and that they should vacate the area. Are you now saying you and your pirate allies are NOT doing that and will instead allow them to stay or not. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Slammer's Republic are invited to discuss normalisation of standings with the forces currently engaged in Operation Terminus Est. Just out of curiosity Cosmo I recall Revan mentioning just the other day that SaniSabik will continue to fire on enemies even after surrenders and that they should vacate the area. Are you now saying you and your pirate allies are NOT doing that and will instead allow them to stay or not. Archbishop Honestely. I try to avoid considering your stupidity but in face of posts like this I have no choice but to expose your ignorance again. Enemies surrendering to AzA , surrenders to AzA Enemies surrendering to Terminus Est, surrenders to Terminus Est. None of the campaigns are obliged to give neutrality to the enemies of the other, unless it is their wish to do so, as many corps are doing here. I know it's hard you old man. A half-wit gave you a piece of his mind, and you held on to it, but make the best use of it. A man with your IQ should have a low voice too. Alchemy for a New World Order .^.
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Slammer's Republic are invited to discuss normalisation of standings with the forces currently engaged in Operation Terminus Est. Just out of curiosity Cosmo I recall Revan mentioning just the other day that SaniSabik will continue to fire on enemies even after surrenders and that they should vacate the area. Are you now saying you and your pirate allies are NOT doing that and will instead allow them to stay or not. Archbishop Honestely. I try to avoid considering your stupidity but in face of posts like this I have no choice but to expose your ignorance again. Enemies surrendering to AzA , surrenders to AzA Enemies surrendering to Terminus Est, surrenders to Terminus Est. None of the campaigns are obliged to give neutrality to the enemies of the other, unless it is their wish to do so, as many corps are doing here. I know it's hard you old man. A half-wit gave you a piece of his mind, and you held on to it, but make the best use of it. A man with your IQ should have a low voice too. So, am i to understand that you are attempting to state that your operation AzA and your "lovers" operation terminus just happen to be in the same area, and have the same goals, at the same time? I know yourself and Constantine are famous for spin but i think this is even beyond your reach to pull off. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:04:00 - [12] Operation Terminus Est forces and Ashe zu Ashe forces operate independently under their own plans and using their own methods. Do we co-operate against mutual enemies? Yes. Do we co-ordinate when it is in our interests? Yes. Does the action of one of these groups bind the other? No. Whatever delusions are circulating among certain groupings as to the allegiances, motives, methods and operations of the many anti-CVA forces operating in Providence û and I have seen some quite extraordinary conspiracy theories on display in public and from intelligence feeds û those delusions have no bearing at all on the situation in the region. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:30:00 - [13] Quote: Operation Terminus Est forces and Ashe zu Ashe forces operate independently under their own plans and using their own methods. Do we co-operate against mutual enemies? Yes. Do we co-ordinate when it is in our interests? Yes. Does the action of one of these groups bind the other? No. I am happy you have made the admission you work with pirates Cosmo it finally clears up that unfortunate rumor. From your actions with the Black Rabbits and their "mysterious" following you around through several campaigns to your wars in Providence again "mysteriously" at the same time the SaniSabik pirate alliance is in the area the coincidences were getting a bit obvious. The fact neither of these well known pirate groups fires on Star Fraction leads one to believe they are indeed pirates themselves and as part of your "code" you don't shoot at one another. Why else would they shoot everyone BUT you? I'm sure you'll deny this but your admission clears the air. Thank you for verifying the rumors with fact. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:36:00 - [14] Today is a good day. ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:46:00 - [15] Originally by: Archbishop I am happy you have made the admission you work with pirates Cosmo it finally clears up that unfortunate rumor. From your actions with the Black Rabbits and their "mysterious" following you around through several campaigns to your wars in Providence again "mysteriously" at the same time the SaniSabik pirate alliance is in the area the coincidences were getting a bit obvious. The fact neither of these well known pirate groups fires on Star Fraction leads one to believe they are indeed pirates themselves and as part of your "code" you don't shoot at one another. Why else would they shoot everyone BUT you? I'm sure you'll deny this but your admission clears the air. Thank you for verifying the rumors with fact. If the Star Fraction are 'pirates' we are the only 'pirates' in the cluster who have maintained a consistent policy of never shooting neutral pilots. The attempt by you to cast us as 'pirates' is simply a confirmation that you have run out of any arguments that make any sense. You are simply telling lies and seeking to smear us with innuendo and crass insults. First, you are well aware, unless in your dotage it has slipped your mind, that the Star Fraction has happily stated that it will fight alongside any grouping that will respect our sovereignty and independence against mutual enemies. Have we fought with self-confessed pirates against mutual enemies? Yes. Have we fought with territorialists against mutual enemies? Yes. Have we fought with terrorists and criminals against mutual enemies? Yes. Have we ever assisted pirates in the commission of piracy against those who are neutral to us? No. Have we ever assisted territorialists in the prevention of those who are neutral to us accessing such territories as may be claimed by said group? No. Have we ever aided terrorists and outlaws in the prosecution of outrages and crimes against those who are neutral to us? No. Let me say it again: The Star Fraction does not shoot neutrals and we do not pass intelligence on neutrals to anyone. As to why the Black Rabbits, Sani Sabik, Ushra'Khan, certain territorial alliances and many others do not shoot at us: it is quite simple. There is indeed a 'code' but it is not, as you ineptly imply, some 'pirate code', it is rather a code of individual and organisational sovereignty. Those who respect the sovereignty of the Star Fraction and its individual members have nothing to fear from us. We will not shoot them. We will not interfere with their operations or seek to force them to adopt a certain policy. We will not discuss their affairs and operations with others. Once this is made clear and is understood, many choose to conclude agreements with us and our policy of diplomacy hand-in-hand with the absolute right to self-defence and sovereign use of force is validated. Spume and spit all the innuendo you like. You only help to promote and validate our own ideology, and thereby render yourself an abject failure. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Reash So, am i to understand that you are attempting to state that your operation AzA and your "lovers" operation terminus just happen to be in the same area, and have the same goals, at the same time? Absolutely. and furthermore it happens that I wake up with the most beautiful gallentean by my side every single morning... good heaven's what a coincidence! Alchemy for a New World Order .^.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:57:00 - [17] Edited by: Archbishop on 14/10/2007 01:59:15 I have not called you pirates Cosmo I merely said the things you've done could lead people to the conclusion you are pirates or are at least in collusion with them. If you came to that impression of my words I do apologize. Here is a list you might be interested in: 1. SF attacked Mito and a corporation that was keeping pirates out of the area. 2. Black Rabbits pirates mysteriously appeared at the same time and started shooting everyone BUT SF. 3. SF defeated the nationalists and they fled leaving the area a pirate infested killing ground. 4. SF went to Gallente space to take on the Federations nationalists. 5. Black Rabbits pirates again mysteriously followed SF down there. 6. SF were again mysteriously not fired on by them. 7. SF camped gates with them and stood by while they fired on non-war enemies in true pirate fashion yet they still didn't fire on SF. 8. SF defeated the Gallente nationalists and the area became a pirate infested killing ground. 9. SF align with the Sani Sabik who are well known as a pirate corp who used to kill in the Bleaklands. 10. SF coordinate operations with them, reportedly share comm channels, the SF executor beds down with the SS executor. 11. SF fly by them and they shoot everyone BUT SF as they pirate everyone else. I recently had a young Amarrian come to me with questions about his faith. He gave me this list. He felt man should be free and didn't believe in God. He had read the Star Fraction pod pilot propoganda on the IGS and wanted to know more. Despite the filters on our communications in the Empire he was somehow able to look up the anarchists and read about them. But he had this list of information and clippings from news stories he had printed out from the vid. He saw the actions and wondered if they were really good or were they pirates. I guess my question is do you see any of these statements as untrue? If so which ones and why? All of them are true and well known fact. Now I am not saying you are a pirate. I am simply saying it looks "odd". I told him I could not counsel him on the issue. I told him to look at the evidence and ask himself what does he think of it. He needed to draw his own conclusion and pray to God for counsel. I asked him "What do you see when you see this list you made?" and he said nothing merely looked down at the ground. People will draw their own conclusions. If you say you are not a pirate I will accept that. I merely point out these are things others are seeing and know about you and you haven't really done anything to disprove them. On their face they really are just coincidence perhaps. Perhaps something more. As the list of coincidences grows longer and longer people will begin to wonder more and more. You say you are not a pirate. I will believe you Cosmo because despite being a heathen anarchist you are an Amarrian and I know you have never lied to me personally. We will leave it at that and I will continue to pray for the souls of the murdered your non-allies the pirates slaughter as you stand by and watch. I hope you pray for your own soul as well. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 03:35:00 - [18] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Slammer's Republic are invited to discuss normalisation of standings with the forces currently engaged in Operation Terminus Est. Points of contact are: Jade Constantine or The Cosmopolite for the Star Fraction alliance. Sinrath for the Eternal Rapture alliance. On confirmation that Slammer's Republic no longer considers pilots of these alliances to be 'red' targets we will review our own standings with a view to returning Slammer's Republic to neutral status and therefore no longer a target under our NRDS RoE. The Cosmopolite Can confirm formal contact between Slammers and Star Fraction this evening. Neutral(no shoot) standings have been mutually agreed. We wish Slammers all the best in their future of full independence from the CVA schemes in Providence. Star Fraction is recruiting
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.14 03:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Due to Slammer's republics cowardice and collaboration with the enemies of the Ammatar Mandate and the empire Delictum 23216 has set Slammer's Republic to negative. This status will remain until the Slammer's Republic either revokes their despicable treaty with Blood Raider cultists and pirates or have evacuated all static assets and no longer holds sovereignty within the borders of Providence or the Mandate. You say you've fought for as long as you can, yet when leave you leave under the umbrella of the enemies of the Ammatar Mandate and the Amarr Empire. Collaboration with the enemy will not be tolerated. Denique Ammataria! Note: Delictum 23216 speaks only for Delictum 23216, no one else. How ironic. easy to speak loudly instead of taking your ships to aid them. I suggest you avoid speaking on any thread belonging to AzA Projects unless you intent to put yourself as a target as well. In respect for your CEO I will ignore this post. Just this time. You have been under fires of little wars so far. believe me, the last thing you want is to call my attention by now. Go and keep silent. hidden under your insignificance. The sandbox where you dwell is safer than the outside world. keep this way. Alchemy for a New World Order .^.
Pulgor Independence Autarchy	Posted - 2007.10.14 04:57:00 - [20] I wonder if I commented on that, if I'd get nailed with revealing classified information. I'll wait for a response, because if I would, I'd so do it!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:19:00 - [21] Edited by: Archbishop on 14/10/2007 05:25:02 I see no wardec on Slammers and the Star Fraction kill database shows the only combat being the destruction of 2 industrials, a rookie ship and a pod by Star Fraction. There is also no mention of Slammers in your wardiary or your declaration. No wardec, no record of violence, nothing. Yet the record shows SF attacking Slammers without apparent provocation. I hope there is a good explanation for this it sure looks odd. Or did those industrial ships fire on your ships? Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.10.14 06:22:00 - [22] Originally by: Archbishop I see no wardec on Slammers and the Star Fraction kill database shows the only combat being the destruction of 2 industrials, a rookie ship and a pod by Star Fraction. There is also no mention of Slammers in your wardiary or your declaration. No wardec, no record of violence, nothing. Yet the record shows SF attacking Slammers without apparent provocation. I hope there is a good explanation for this it sure looks odd. Or did those industrial ships fire on your ships? I'm just curious given you made such a big scene telling us about Dreamy of Sev3rance taking a shot at you six months ago as your justification for Operation Terminus so I assume there's some big press release I missed somewhere to explain you shooting unarmed industrial ships from an alliance you weren't even wardecd against. Just curious. Archbishop I'm so glad to hear that PIE has finally come to regard CVA as pirates and/or terrorists. (After all, you'll find it quite difficult to prove any sanctioned state of war between CVA and Ushra'Khan, yet despite this CVA insists on attacking our vessels.) Just curious. Or ... now, I'm making a logical leap, here, but try to follow: Could it be, perhaps, that it is possible to have a state of hostility that perhaps comes somewhat short of sactioned war? Perhaps a level of aggression that allows under one's Rules of Engagement a degree of hostility only in space not secured by CONCORD? Hm. I'll have to think on this conundrum further. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:12:00 - [23] Originally by: Becq Starforged Originally by: Archbishop I see no wardec on Slammers and the Star Fraction kill database shows the only combat being the destruction of 2 industrials, a rookie ship and a pod by Star Fraction. There is also no mention of Slammers in your wardiary or your declaration. No wardec, no record of violence, nothing. Yet the record shows SF attacking Slammers without apparent provocation. I hope there is a good explanation for this it sure looks odd. Or did those industrial ships fire on your ships? I'm just curious given you made such a big scene telling us about Dreamy of Sev3rance taking a shot at you six months ago as your justification for Operation Terminus so I assume there's some big press release I missed somewhere to explain you shooting unarmed industrial ships from an alliance you weren't even wardecd against. Just curious. Archbishop I'm so glad to hear that PIE has finally come to regard CVA as pirates and/or terrorists. (After all, you'll find it quite difficult to prove any sanctioned state of war between CVA and Ushra'Khan, yet despite this CVA insists on attacking our vessels.) Just curious. Or ... now, I'm making a logical leap, here, but try to follow: Could it be, perhaps, that it is possible to have a state of hostility that perhaps comes somewhat short of sactioned war? Perhaps a level of aggression that allows under one's Rules of Engagement a degree of hostility only in space not secured by CONCORD? Hm. I'll have to think on this conundrum further. Archbishop was asking SF's reasosn for attacking what would appear to be neutrals to SF as Cosmo just stated SF are a NRDS entity. The Minmatar education system continues to provide high standards i see. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Tigerfish Torpedo Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:28:00 - [24] Seeing that Slammers have officially surrendered to AzA, I have set Slammers blue to CRMSN, in accordance with the no fire policy established within the terms of surrender. Good luck with your future endeavours, Slammers. Tiger CRMSN.
Tatania Apparition	Posted - 2007.10.14 12:50:00 - [25] Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo Seeing that Slammers have officially surrendered to AzA, I have set Slammers blue to CRMSN, in accordance with the no fire policy established within the terms of surrender. Good luck with your future endeavours, Slammers. Tiger CRMSN. Good news, Slammers! You don't have to worry about the juggernaut that is The Crimson Federation!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.14 12:59:00 - [26] In my name and AzA group, I'd like to extend my appreciation to all Organizations and alliances who are facilitating Slammer's evacuation from Providence by adjusting standings accordingly.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 13:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Archbishop I see no wardec on Slammers and the Star Fraction kill database shows the only combat being the destruction of 2 industrials, a rookie ship and a pod by Star Fraction. There is also no mention of Slammers in your wardiary or your declaration. No wardec, no record of violence, nothing. Yet the record shows SF attacking Slammers without apparent provocation. I hope there is a good explanation for this it sure looks odd. Or did those industrial ships fire on your ships? I'm just curious given you made such a big scene telling us about Dreamy of Sev3rance taking a shot at you six months ago as your justification for Operation Terminus so I assume there's some big press release I missed somewhere to explain you shooting unarmed industrial ships from an alliance you weren't even wardecd against. Just curious. Archbishop I'm glad you asked that question actually. Its quite the puzzle isn't it? Why given absolutely no past history of aggression would Slammers Republic be considered a target for the Free Captains of the Star Fraction? What's their motive for bringing the wrath of radical freespacers down on their holdings? Whats our motive for shooting people who had no record of shooting our ships in space? Well let me enlighten you Archbishop. Its true, prior to last week SF had Slammers Republic set to neutral standings - and our NRDS system of ideology allows no attacks on neutrals so while we passed through their claimed spacee with impunity as always we always considered their vessels "neutral" and couldn't aid even our friends and allies in anti Slammer work unless Slammers themselves took it upon themselves to declare aggression. And guess what? [ 2007.09.28 18:15:21 ] EVE System > Channel changed to VKI-T7 Local Channel [ 2007.09.28 18:18:38 ] Adrian Steel > hi AlDen..... so you know, star fraction is NRDS. i won't shoot you if you don't shoot me Smiley [ 2007.09.28 18:20:55 ] AlDenGrumme > well your red to me... so just come to me and ill make shure you keep warm.. for a spell [ 2007.09.28 18:21:02 ] Adrian Steel > gotcha Smiley Clear expression of Slammer hostility to Star Fraction - they had us set red. Still we sent diplomatic messages to the CEO of the corp in question and received no response. [ 2007.10.05 22:15:26 ] EVE System > Channel changed to 9UY4-H Local Channel [ 2007.10.05 22:15:29 ] David Kaos > 14 reds n 4n on 9uy4-h gate [ 2007.10.05 22:15:44 ] TriXirT > 4 in here if u didnt notice Tongue [ 2007.10.05 22:15:52 ] TriXirT > lol, nm More reporting of our vessels as "red" to Slammers. It appears the answer to your conundrum Archbishop is that while Slammers certainly had no reason from actual aggression to set SF negative -10 they had simply inherited the CVA kill list and yielded to Amarrian standings enclosurism in Providence. By setting us -10 they made us into enemies while they didn't have to and after repeatedly being informed in local that they would shoot us (and receiving no demurral on the position from their executive) we took the decision to reciprocate mutual hostile standings rather than suffer surprise attack. So thanks again Archbishop for revealing how CVA standings lists in Providence are actively dragging neutrals into the firing line for conflicts which the CVA itself has absolutely no interest in helping them in. Star Fraction is recruiting
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:24:00 - [28] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 14/10/2007 14:00:18 So thanks again Archbishop for revealing how CVA standings lists in Providence are actively dragging neutrals into the firing line for conflicts which the CVA itself has absolutely no interest in helping them in. Slammers do not have access to the CVA KOS list, and have not for some time. This was their own choice when setting piritical factions blue, while the CVA did not shoot Slammers for this, we have had more limited contact. Interesting how you even attempt to spin your attack on Slammers as the fault of the CVA however. As you very well know, Slammers are not CVA allies as such but were neibours. And again, as you and your lover very well know, Slammers requested neutral stance with the AzA campaign when it was first announced. It was denied, again, this is not the fault of the CVA. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:32:00 - [29] Originally by: Reash As you very well know, Slammers are not CVA allies as such but were neibours. And again, as you and your lover very well know, Slammers requested neutral stance with the AzA campaign when it was first announced. It was denied, again, this is not the fault of the CVA. As you well know I take a stance of not believing a single word that comes from the mouths of nationalist Amarrians. Don't waste your breath worm. Star Fraction is recruiting
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:33:00 - [30] Edited by: Reash on 14/10/2007 14:33:25 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Reash As you very well know, Slammers are not CVA allies as such but were neibours. And again, as you and your lover very well know, Slammers requested neutral stance with the AzA campaign when it was first announced. It was denied, again, this is not the fault of the CVA. As you well know I take a stance of not believing a single word that comes from the mouths of nationalist Amarrians. Don't waste your breath worm. You have stated yourself that we do not work with them. Do not trust youself? With so much spin you are bound to get dizzy sooner or later. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director

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