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JForce The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 12:57:00 - [1] When I logged in this morning, I read the news item where Wrangler was going on about the next expansion and Trinity2 graphical shiny goodness. And there was a pic...a "before" and "after" pic, showing the graphical difference between 2 ships, old engine and new engine. It's gone from in-game news and website news. Why? And can we have it back?
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.10.14 13:01:00 - [2] they were removed because so many people criticised the windows on the new geddon. apparently. well, that's the popular opinion about why they've been missing in action for the last 24 hours. why they left the news item with no pictures up is anyone's guess.
Lothendra Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.14 13:12:00 - [3] http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1283675749507969729rq5.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12836757495224404110ve2.jpg
Fadedspirit	Posted - 2007.10.14 13:14:00 - [4] Originally by: Lothendra http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1283675749507969729rq5.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12836757495224404110ve2.jpg Wow, that actually looks like crap. No wonder they took them down
Drenan	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:04:00 - [5] Tip for you...get a raven and fit it with cruise.
MellaRinn Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Fadedspirit Edited by: Fadedspirit on 14/10/2007 13:20:25 Edited by: Fadedspirit on 14/10/2007 13:18:59 Originally by: Lothendra http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1283675749507969729rq5.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12836757495224404110ve2.jpg Wow, that actually looks like crap. No wonder they took them down ps: I'm glad I found the torpedo nerf information this morning as I lurked the forums. Lol, definatly stopping my transfer from Amarr ships to Caldari ships to run missions. I've been having trouble coming back to eve because when I try and do level four missions in my Abaddon I just can't kill very quickly. I have Amarr Battleships 5, large energy turrets 4, every other gunnery skill to 4 or 5. I'm fitting my ship to tank the missions I do with t2 equipment. I use Tachyon Modal laser 1's (closest I could get money wise to Tech 2 tachyons) and I still either miss ALOT against other battleships or it just takes me a long time to outdamage the 600mill+ BS rats. I thought about going Raven fully fitted with torpedos etc etc for easier missions. Now that they are going down the tube not sure If I want to go Gallente now or just try to cope with Amarr and skill up for T2 tachyons Side note: wtf's up with the new drone aggro rules I've been seeing? My drones never got randomly attacked by outside ships that I hadn't aggroed before I left. Now, when I'm in a mission I have to watch for missiles flying at my drones from ships 70km away I havn't aggroed yet. All I can ask is.....why?? tip for you: get pulse spec and use scorch L :/ ✖Veto Corp. Training Officer✖ Click the sig 4 my vids
James Swindle	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:33:00 - [7] Don't know what everyone is complaining about, i think the new graphics are much better.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:38:00 - [8] I often go downtown and object to how partially constructed buildings will look to the construction manager. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Frug Zenithal Harvest BROTHER'S WORD	Posted - 2007.10.14 14:40:00 - [9] Originally by: Caiman Graystock many people criticised the windows on the new geddon. That's funny. I was studying the two pictures and I have to say that I agree. The new windows kinda suck. Just nit-picking of course. The old design looks better. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:09:00 - [10] Thats what I instantly noticed when I saw that news: New windows looks ghey. I mean now we see so many windows and uberness so ships feels really big and awesome! But this new .. so many and small windows. Please fix it! It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Sanzorz Amarr EVEfan.dk	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:13:00 - [11] Must be some odd fetish people have it they notice the windows first.. Seriously.. They look great, nuff said. Alot more shiny and light reflections than the old "worn" colour. ---
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Return The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:20:00 - [12] It is rather odd to have a newsarticle saying you have to see it without providing anything to look at.
Loftur sterki The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:30:00 - [13] Who is serioulsy is looking at the ship details weldings in the armor, or the coulor if the paint?? Fix the feckin LAG should be no.1 primary target for CCP Grumpy old Viking
Sikozu Prioris Suns Of Korhal YouWhat	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:37:00 - [14] Edited by: Sikozu Prioris on 14/10/2007 15:37:51 Originally by: Loftur sterki Who is serioulsy is looking at the ship details weldings in the armor, or the coulor if the paint?? Fix the feckin LAG should be no.1 primary target for CCP Everyone should say this daily for these special people out there.... Graphical designers CANNOT fix bugs/lag. Get a clue please. If they put the design department onto fixing bugs and fixing coding to sort out lag they would proberly MAKE MORE BUGS/LAG in the process as they HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO FIX THOSE THINGS THEY DRAW PRETTY THINGS FFS "A enemy fleet emerges from the shadows" - What shadows!?! We're in ****ing space for gods sake
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Loftur sterki Who is serioulsy is looking at the ship details weldings in the armor, or the coulor if the paint?? Fix the feckin LAG should be no.1 primary target for CCP Again.. people who do the graphics arent the people who do the networking code. Plus, CCP would need the new graphics to be able to attract more people, to get more money, to hire new devs and get new servers to fix lag anyway. Gotta think of the big picture XD
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Loftur sterki Who is serioulsy is looking at the ship details weldings in the armor, or the coulor if the paint?? Fix the feckin LAG should be no.1 primary target for CCP So how do you propose that Texture Artists and 3D Modellers fix lag? ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Evenfall Phoenix The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:42:00 - [17] I actually like the windows, they look good.
Loftur sterki The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:03:00 - [18] Well for those of you who look forward to the new shiprendering and station walktrougs ok I understand.. will be strange login into eve tho if the majority is docked wandering around the station o.O BUt the artist deparpent could suggest a "battle" mode.. to the lag engineers, so in fleet ops and large ops with loads of ships, drones and effects you could swich to box mode or whatever makin the lag less pain I would be fine ina cube 10 x 10 x 10 pixels if ti would mean I could use the moduls :) Insted of waching my great looking ship go pop without enemies on the screen.... Grumpy old Viking
Ron Hauller Gallente The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Loftur sterki Who is serioulsy is looking at the ship details weldings in the armor, or the coulor if the paint?? Fix the feckin LAG should be no.1 primary target for CCP So how do you propose that Texture Artists and 3D Modellers fix lag? Reduce all models to a single polygon with a grey scale texture, textures are compressed in a lossy format like jpg. All ships, including npcs may use a polygon of no more or less than three sides.
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Loftur sterki Well for those of you who look forward to the new shiprendering and station walktrougs ok I understand.. will be strange login into eve tho if the majority is docked wandering around the station o.O How is that any different than it is now? Originally by: Loftur sterki BUt the artist deparpent could suggest a "battle" mode.. to the lag engineers, so in fleet ops and large ops with loads of ships, drones and effects you could swich to box mode or whatever makin the lag less pain I would be fine ina cube 10 x 10 x 10 pixels if ti would mean I could use the moduls :) Insted of waching my great looking ship go pop without enemies on the screen.... Stop mixing up client side lag with server side lag.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:17:00 - [21] Edited by: Tarminic on 14/10/2007 16:17:39 Originally by: Loftur sterki artist deparpent could suggest a "battle" mode.. to the lag engineers, so in fleet ops and large ops with loads of ships, drones and effects you could swich to box mode or whatever makin the lag less pain I would be fine ina cube 10 x 10 x 10 pixels if ti would mean I could use the moduls :) Insted of waching my great looking ship go pop without enemies on the screen.... That would be the design department, not the art department. And there arlready is a "box" mode - just zoom out and ships will be rendered at dots instead of polygons. Quote: Reduce all models to a single polygon with a grey scale texture, textures artists whole job reduced to picking a number, 0-127. All ships, including npcs may use a polygon of no more or less than three sides. See above. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:27:00 - [22] How has nobody noticed that the new Geddon is a work in progress? It doesn't even have a new model as far as I can tell. I have a feeling it will look a lot better when it's actually done. --- The Cake Is A Lie ---
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:30:00 - [23] The new model IS the WIP. And so what? Just because its a WIP, we're not supposed to criticize it? If we didnt criticize now, CCP would end up releasing something like that as a final product.
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:33:00 - [24] No they wouldn't. --- The Cake Is A Lie ---
maCH'EttE Veto.	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:40:00 - [25] The problem is, you don't get the sense of scale with the windows in the new design. Like it's been said though, it's a WIP and hopefully it'll be sorted before it's released. Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned!
Grapez	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:45:00 - [26] Why does everyone think these things are windows?
Trojanman190 Caldari Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:51:00 - [27] Dont forget that there are OTHER pics of the new ships elsewhere and they look fantastic. Here are some Examples They look great, its just that ugly geddon, why did they bother showing that one, everything else looks AMAZING
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Asestorian No they wouldn't. Well they were confident enough to put that WIP up with such horrible windows, how would you know? And to the guy above me, theyre windows because devs called them that several times in past dev blogs about the scale of these ships. Believe it or not, our ships have crews in addition to our pods. It was in that chronicle in EON where some guy signed up to be a crew on a pod pilot's ship.
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Grapez Why does everyone think these things are windows? Exactly! These are BATTLEships, not pleasure cruises to see "Ohhh, shineh starz!". -----------------------------------------------------
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.14 17:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Grapez Why does everyone think these things are windows? Everyone knows they are not windows, in fact they are giant flaslights created to light up the blakness of space. Call to arms!!!
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.10.14 18:37:00 - [31] The new geddon model looks awesome to me, i don't see the reason for the complaints. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Futureface01 Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.10.14 19:22:00 - [32] Yeah plenty of things to complain about, a ships windows/shine/skin is REAL far down that list. I'm indifferent towards the old looks, I'm indifferent towards the new looks.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.14 19:25:00 - [33] Originally by: Phoenix Lord Originally by: Asestorian No they wouldn't. Well they were confident enough to put that WIP up with such horrible windows, how would you know? Because it's a frigging work in progress. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Sylvia Lafayette	Posted - 2007.10.14 19:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Phoenix Lord Originally by: Asestorian No they wouldn't. Well they were confident enough to put that WIP up with such horrible windows, how would you know? And to the guy above me, theyre windows because devs called them that several times in past dev blogs about the scale of these ships. Believe it or not, our ships have crews in addition to our pods. It was in that chronicle in EON where some guy signed up to be a crew on a pod pilot's ship. WTB crew for my Ddominix that gives me bonuses!
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 20:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Phoenix Lord Originally by: Asestorian No they wouldn't. Well they were confident enough to put that WIP up with such horrible windows, how would you know? Because it's a frigging work in progress. Just cause its a WIP doesnt mean it would or wouldnt be in the final ******* product =.= _____
Detrol Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.14 21:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Sikozu Prioris Edited by: Sikozu Prioris on 14/10/2007 15:37:51 Originally by: Loftur sterki Who is serioulsy is looking at the ship details weldings in the armor, or the coulor if the paint?? Fix the feckin LAG should be no.1 primary target for CCP Everyone should say this daily for these special people out there.... Graphical designers CANNOT fix bugs/lag. Get a clue please. If they put the design department onto fixing bugs and fixing coding to sort out lag they would proberly MAKE MORE BUGS/LAG in the process as they HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO FIX THOSE THINGS THEY DRAW PRETTY THINGS FFS So you are saying that CCP should fire off some designers and hire more lag/bug fixing guys in order to be in the same salary payout level?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.14 22:29:00 - [37] to everyone in this thread... I'm an artist. when I'm working on something that is WIP, I will show it to people even if it's not done. and when people say BLANK BLANK AND BLANK, look like ****, I will go back and fix those 3 things while finishing up the rest. if no one told me to change them I wouldn't have. There is nothing wrong with criticizing. actully I'm sure the artist don't feel hate or sad or happy, it's just a part of being an artist. now also, please trust me on this, but if everyone tell you they don't like your drawing, but you as the artist of the drawing like it. then you wouldn't change it, so as it was taken down, it is clear that the artist agreed with what has been said. "if it looks good, it is good" that's what the eve art team runs on, and I see no reason to poke at them when they show us something that even non artist were able to point out very quickly. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.10.14 23:08:00 - [38] You guy's know nothing about ship to ship fighting. There has to be big window's other wise no one would be stood there when they are fighting so they get sucked out when that window is smashed have none of you ever seen a movie man people get a life !
JADE DRAG0NESS Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.10.14 23:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Grapez Why does everyone think these things are windows? Let me guess your one of those who think that EvE PoD ships have no crews "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.10.15 00:03:00 - [40] Originally by: JADE DRAG0NESS Originally by: Grapez Why does everyone think these things are windows? Let me guess your one of those who think that EvE PoD ships have no crews If there is camera drones everywhere. why would a crew need windows? And my ships crew is a bunch of robot sloths. 11 of them... its why it seems that i respond so slowly to things. its the sloths! damn them! ------------------------------- Here comes the sig............. The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.15 00:05:00 - [41] Originally by: Haerana Originally by: JADE DRAG0NESS Originally by: Grapez Why does everyone think these things are windows? Let me guess your one of those who think that EvE PoD ships have no crews If there is camera drones everywhere. why would a crew need windows? And my ships crew is a bunch of robot sloths. 11 of them... its why it seems that i respond so slowly to things. its the sloths! damn them! Because people would likely go crazy if they could not look out? --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:00:00 - [42] I just got why they added window's its so yobs could push your window's in for no reason. !
Keesd	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:28:00 - [43] I thought it looked great. I thought the old one looked great as well, but compared to the new one, the new one is spectacular! Can't wait to see what the others will look like!
Grapez	Posted - 2007.10.16 01:26:00 - [44] Originally by: Arana Tellen Originally by: Haerana Originally by: JADE DRAG0NESS Originally by: Grapez Why does everyone think these things are windows? Let me guess your one of those who think that EvE PoD ships have no crews If there is camera drones everywhere. why would a crew need windows? And my ships crew is a bunch of robot sloths. 11 of them... its why it seems that i respond so slowly to things. its the sloths! damn them! Because people would likely go crazy if they could not look out? I think the liability of having windows massively outweighs anything good by having your crew looking out them. They're supposed to be doing stuff, not screwing around looking out windows! I'll just continue to believe that these lights are sensors or drone links or communications thingies. And come on! Since when do so many people in Eve care about the RP aspect of how our ships look? I mean really, what benevolent God would allow the Moa to exist anyway?
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.10.16 01:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Lothendra http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1283675749507969729rq5.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12836757495224404110ve2.jpg Sweet, my new rig is going to be assembled just in time for this uber sweetness. _____________________________________ Hello, i like to shoot random people.
Dessa DesPlains	Posted - 2007.10.16 01:35:00 - [46] It would be cool if a new ship was all shiny and pretty and an older ship was dull and beat up. Maybe some plates welded over the broken windows.

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