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Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.16 02:55:00 - [61] I can get over 400dps on a vexor... whats your point? Love to the Assault Frigate!
Franconis Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.16 04:59:00 - [62] Originally by: Apolloe Oh my god. For the last time. Shut the ** up with nerfs. It's getting really damn annoying seeing people **ing about ships being overpowered or faster or have better DPS or whatever. Shut up, suck it up, play the game. @#(%^@(#*%^!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are my hero _________ I R teh Minnie Meanie
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.16 12:24:00 - [63] Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Were you doing 400 DPS and 50k armor at the same time? I doubt it. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
SK Rooster No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.16 17:52:00 - [64] Originally by: Hannobaal It's not right because even with maxed out skills it is not remotely possible to do so, except maybe with some really expensive faction equipment. how wrong you are Linkage
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.16 18:25:00 - [65] Originally by: SK Rooster Originally by: Hannobaal It's not right because even with maxed out skills it is not remotely possible to do so, except maybe with some really expensive faction equipment. how wrong you are Linkage I think people are talking about realistic setups...you have no web, no mwd and no scram? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Brark	Posted - 2007.10.16 18:58:00 - [66] Originally by: SK Rooster Originally by: Hannobaal It's not right because even with maxed out skills it is not remotely possible to do so, except maybe with some really expensive faction equipment. how wrong you are Linkage 480 freaking Million SP and by far the WORST Setup i`ve ever seen. NERF! THIS IS MADNESS!
Gort Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2007.10.16 22:01:00 - [67] I'm laughing at the OP. Ruptures are what they are -- decent heavy cruisers. Get over it. -- When in doubt, empty the magazine.
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.16 22:09:00 - [68] Edited by: twit brent on 16/10/2007 22:13:05 Originally by: Acoco Osiris Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Were you doing 400 DPS and 50k armor at the same time? I doubt it. With 2 webbers and scram 413dps 53643 effective hprupture
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 08:50:00 - [69] Edited by: Boring name on 17/10/2007 08:50:02 Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Only post that makes sense here the guy told me his setup 4 220mm II 1 small nos 1 small neut 10mn mwd, web, warp disruptor 1600 plate, 2 Gyro, 1 DC II, 1 EANM II 3 trimarks think slave set too edit : think he was using ecm drones aswell
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 09:52:00 - [70] Originally by: Boring name Edited by: Boring name on 17/10/2007 08:50:02 Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Only post that makes sense here the guy told me his setup 4 220mm II 1 small nos 1 small neut 10mn mwd, web, warp disruptor 1600 plate, 2 Gyro, 1 DC II, 1 EANM II 3 trimarks think slave set too edit : think he was using ecm drones aswell Ok lets break this down - 1 x Rupture Hull 6mil Isk 4 x 220mm AC's 7.2mil Isk 1 x 1600m Plate about 1mil Isk 2 x Gyro 3.2mil Isk 1 x EANM 2.2mil Isk 1 x DCU2 2.3mil Isk 3 x Tri-Mark 40.6 MILLION ISK Ok so if we total this up we get a TOTAL COST of 62.5 Million ISk. Rofl...yeah well lets nerf the Rupture because it's overpowered. I doubt there are many people out there who would drop 62million Isk on bying and fitting a t1 cruiser. Considering the risk of getting ganked these days i would say that's pretty stoopid. But then again...it takes all types eh? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:00:00 - [71] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Edited by: Boring name on 17/10/2007 08:50:02 Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Only post that makes sense here the guy told me his setup 4 220mm II 1 small nos 1 small neut 10mn mwd, web, warp disruptor 1600 plate, 2 Gyro, 1 DC II, 1 EANM II 3 trimarks think slave set too edit : think he was using ecm drones aswell Ok lets break this down - 1 x Rupture Hull 6mil Isk 4 x 220mm AC's 7.2mil Isk 1 x 1600m Plate about 1mil Isk 2 x Gyro 3.2mil Isk 1 x EANM 2.2mil Isk 1 x DCU2 2.3mil Isk 3 x Tri-Mark 40.6 MILLION ISK Ok so if we total this up we get a TOTAL COST of 62.5 Million ISk. Rofl...yeah well lets nerf the Rupture because it's overpowered. I doubt there are many people out there who would drop 62million Isk on bying and fitting a t1 cruiser. Considering the risk of getting ganked these days i would say that's pretty stoopid. But then again...it takes all types eh? How much does Hac's cost again?
Nian Banks Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:07:00 - [72] May I just say that I have just spent over 30m on a bellicose. Money doesn't mean diddly if your main aim is to have fun.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:13:00 - [73] Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:14:00 - [74] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Edited by: Boring name on 17/10/2007 08:50:02 Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Only post that makes sense here the guy told me his setup 4 220mm II 1 small nos 1 small neut 10mn mwd, web, warp disruptor 1600 plate, 2 Gyro, 1 DC II, 1 EANM II 3 trimarks think slave set too edit : think he was using ecm drones aswell Ok lets break this down - 1 x Rupture Hull 6mil Isk 4 x 220mm AC's 7.2mil Isk 1 x 1600m Plate about 1mil Isk 2 x Gyro 3.2mil Isk 1 x EANM 2.2mil Isk 1 x DCU2 2.3mil Isk 3 x Tri-Mark 40.6 MILLION ISK Ok so if we total this up we get a TOTAL COST of 62.5 Million ISk. Rofl...yeah well lets nerf the Rupture because it's overpowered. I doubt there are many people out there who would drop 62million Isk on bying and fitting a t1 cruiser. Considering the risk of getting ganked these days i would say that's pretty stoopid. But then again...it takes all types eh? Calling this setup stupid based on price is stupid. I would probably try it if I could fly minmatar. For what it might be possible for this ship to accomplish i think its well worth it.
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:15:00 - [75] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? How versatile is the battlecruiser again? how many hac's is going to engage a battlecruiser again? how hard is it to run from blobs in a battlecruiser? how hard is it to tackle in a battlecruiser? how slow are battlecruisers? seriously, you can't compare them
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:15:00 - [76] Originally by: Nian Banks May I just say that I have just spent over 30m on a bellicose. Money doesn't mean diddly if your main aim is to have fun. Well your fun will last alot longer if you use your money wisely. But then again if you have piles of it i susppose it doesn't matter. Even when i do have piles of isk...i still spend it wisely. It's basic economics. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:16:00 - [77] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? Good luck getting a HAC to try to kill you battlecruiser I think your missing the point of this setup entirely.
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:19:00 - [78] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Nian Banks May I just say that I have just spent over 30m on a bellicose. Money doesn't mean diddly if your main aim is to have fun. Well your fun will last alot longer if you use your money wisely. But then again if you have piles of it i susppose it doesn't matter. Even when i do have piles of isk...i still spend it wisely. It's basic economics. Hmmm I will have infinite ammounts of fun in an ibis? but seriously i would have heaps more fun in the rupture as there is a much higher chance of actually being engaged by a HAC or something. Not to mention killing something with a tech 1 of the class.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:30:00 - [79] Originally by: twit brent Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Nian Banks May I just say that I have just spent over 30m on a bellicose. Money doesn't mean diddly if your main aim is to have fun. Well your fun will last alot longer if you use your money wisely. But then again if you have piles of it i susppose it doesn't matter. Even when i do have piles of isk...i still spend it wisely. It's basic economics. Hmmm I will have infinite ammounts of fun in an ibis? but seriously i would have heaps more fun in the rupture as there is a much higher chance of actually being engaged by a HAC or something. Not to mention killing something with a tech 1 of the class. The point is that these guys are fitting a 6million isk t1 cruiser with 54million isk worth of kit. I use an unrigged Ruppi and have won all it's 1v1's with cruisers without any rigs...i have lost to gangs who ganked me where a 54hp armour buffer WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED. In other words..it's probably a bad idea and waste of isk to spend 60million isk on a t1 cruiser. It's not rocket science now is it? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Great Artista Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:31:00 - [80] I knew this topic was coming... Infact, I knew it 7 months ago. _______ Do yuo liek stabbers? ◕◡◕
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:32:00 - [81] Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? How versatile is the battlecruiser again? how many hac's is going to engage a battlecruiser again? how hard is it to run from blobs in a battlecruiser? how hard is it to tackle in a battlecruiser? how slow are battlecruisers? seriously, you can't compare them Are you for real? How slow is a plated 3 x trimarked Ruppi gonna be? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:34:00 - [82] Originally by: twit brent but seriously i would have heaps more fun in the rupture as there is a much higher chance of actually being engaged by a HAC or something. Not to mention killing something with a tech 1 of the class. The 1600mm plate + trimarks rupture is outraced by any T1/T2 cruiser. In fact, the Hurricane is just as agile and actually faster when you fit trimarks and a 1600mm plate on top. Also, losing 60+ M on a Rupture is quite a lot, especially when you take into account it won't be able to survive your average HAC (except maybe a Deimos - all the other HACs kindof keep at range/orbit) and will get caught relatively easy. At any rate, why is everyone being so serious in a troll thread?
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:34:00 - [83] Edited by: Boring name on 17/10/2007 10:36:03 Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? How versatile is the battlecruiser again? how many hac's is going to engage a battlecruiser again? how hard is it to run from blobs in a battlecruiser? how hard is it to tackle in a battlecruiser? how slow are battlecruisers? seriously, you can't compare them Are you for real? How slow is a plated 3 x trimarked Ruppi gonna be? Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s?
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:35:00 - [84] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: twit brent but seriously i would have heaps more fun in the rupture as there is a much higher chance of actually being engaged by a HAC or something. Not to mention killing something with a tech 1 of the class. The 1600mm plate + trimarks rupture is outraced by any T1/T2 cruiser. In fact, the Hurricane is just as agile and actually faster when you fit trimarks and a 1600mm plate on top. Also, losing 60+ M on a Rupture is quite a lot, especially when you take into account it won't be able to survive your average HAC (except maybe a Deimos - all the other HACs kindof keep at range/orbit) and will get caught relatively easy. At any rate, why is everyone being so serious in a troll thread? I don't think most hac's even think it is necessary to stay outside of webrange when they see a rupture
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:36:00 - [85] Originally by: Drek Grapper The point is that these guys are fitting a 6million isk t1 cruiser with 54million isk worth of kit. I use an unrigged Ruppi and have won all it's 1v1's with cruisers without any rigs...i have lost to gangs who ganked me where a 54hp armour buffer WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED. In other words..it's probably a bad idea and waste of isk to spend 60million isk on a t1 cruiser. It's not rocket science now is it? This is 100% correct ;)
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:38:00 - [86] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Drek Grapper The point is that these guys are fitting a 6million isk t1 cruiser with 54million isk worth of kit. I use an unrigged Ruppi and have won all it's 1v1's with cruisers without any rigs...i have lost to gangs who ganked me where a 54hp armour buffer WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED. In other words..it's probably a bad idea and waste of isk to spend 60million isk on a t1 cruiser. It's not rocket science now is it? This is 100% correct ;) You can still kill hac's without the Trimarks, but the people that can actually make isk usually fits them
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:42:00 - [87] Originally by: Boring name Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s? Well EFT tells me it's 1.1km/s with my skills and 1.3km/s with all LV5. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Boring name	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:42:00 - [88] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s? Well EFT tells me it's 1.1km/s with my skills and 1.3km/s with all LV5. How fast does a plate thorax go?
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:52:00 - [89] Edited by: Drek Grapper on 17/10/2007 10:52:16 Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s? Well EFT tells me it's 1.1km/s with my skills and 1.3km/s with all LV5. How fast does a plate thorax go? What's a plated Rax got to do with it? You were saying that a BC is not as fast and agile as a plated 3 trimarked Rupture which is plain bollox. An armour tanked Cane does about 1km/s with a trimark and a 1600mm plate. EFT tells me the Rup does 1.1lm/s...now call me stupid, but to me it doesn't look like a helluva big difference now does it? Anyway whatever...go throw your money away. You might own cruisers and the odd HAC (remember a HAC will prolly use rigs as well) but you will get pwned by the first gang who catches you. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:54:00 - [90] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: twit brent but seriously i would have heaps more fun in the rupture as there is a much higher chance of actually being engaged by a HAC or something. Not to mention killing something with a tech 1 of the class. The 1600mm plate + trimarks rupture is outraced by any T1/T2 cruiser. In fact, the Hurricane is just as agile and actually faster when you fit trimarks and a 1600mm plate on top. Also, losing 60+ M on a Rupture is quite a lot, especially when you take into account it won't be able to survive your average HAC (except maybe a Deimos - all the other HACs kindof keep at range/orbit) and will get caught relatively easy. At any rate, why is everyone being so serious in a troll thread? Your missing the point entirely. Now tell me, what HAC is ever going to willingly engage a tech 1 battlecruiser. The thing about the rupture is that people will actually want to fight it. Theoritically I can pwn all HAC's in my dread or carrier, but the reality is they will never engage me. I know the cyclone has better stats, if you read my post very carefully you will not see me saying the rupture is a pwnage machine. Read my post before quoting it and you might not get trolled.

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