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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
213
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:25:00 -
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...because linking them all to that bar on the left is mighty annoying (I might, of course, have missed the ability to turn this off...) |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
56
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:26:00 -
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Huh? |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
213
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:34:00 -
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If you open your journal, and click the minimise button, it no longer goes to the bottom of the screen like it used to. It now disappeares and can only be accessed again by clicking on the button on the left hand bar. Mucho annoying |
Joahna Gramer
Deep Space Supplies Care Factor
2
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:48:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:If you open your journal, and click the minimise button, it no longer goes to the bottom of the screen like it used to. It now disappeares and can only be accessed again by clicking on the button on the left hand bar. Mucho annoying
It's just a thing of convenience. If you hit the Journal button on the left the Journal will open. If you hit the button again it will not close but minimize the journal (the button will get shiny). If you hit the button once again it will pop up faster this time because its just maximizing the window. If you ask me pretty neat to have only button instead of the hundreds of bars at the bottom. |
Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
42
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:52:00 -
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I prefer the new way.
However, I often double click the very top of a window to "minimize in-line". That's the best way I can describe it. Here's a screenie of what I mean.
Give it a go! It's mighty useful :) I have a specific comb for my beard. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
213
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:12:00 -
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Hmm, seems that it's just me that finds this new system annoying. I used to love having everything along the bottom of the screen, ready to pop out when needed (Contracts, wallet, market, etc), but now it's all along the left hand bar (and therefore I must trundle my cursor over a further distance)
Sad gorki :( |
Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
42
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:15:00 -
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In the latest neocom-related devblog it says they will hopefully allow you to move the neocom to he bottom at some point - that might help :) I have a specific comb for my beard. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
213
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:23:00 -
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Eugene Spencer wrote:In the latest neocom-related devblog it says they will hopefully allow you to move the neocom to he bottom at some point - that might help :)
Hey, nice one - thanks for your link and your thoughts! |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1242
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:25:00 -
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Awful change (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:31:00 -
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Wow this is utter garbage. Any way to change it back? The whole blink thing now sits right in your face, instead of an unobtrusive little mouse peeping away in the bottom of the screen.
SKUNK |
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
213
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:33:00 -
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FIVE YEARS OF BEING USED TO MINIMIZE WINDOWS AND THEN CLICKING ON THE 'TASKBAR', A LA PRETTY MUCH EVERY OS IN THE WORLD
FIVE YEARS OF WASTED TIME
*phew*
Seriously though, the actions of minimizing/clicking from the bottom are so ingrained now they are automatic, and this new change is extremely painful. |
Marcus Harikari
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:39:00 -
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i love it |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
93
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:44:00 -
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I want the old way back, opening windows now clutters up your Neocom with more windows that are nameless but have an icon. That's dumb. Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Servicing highsec and lowsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Rixiu
North Star Networks The Kadeshi
87
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:54:00 -
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Preferred the old way simply because minimizing chat windows used to be useful, now if I'm "lucky" I get this useless mess: http://piclair.com/data/yexkt.jpg
but usually I get this: http://piclair.com/data/yhzxm.jpg
Didn't want to access those chat windows anyways I guess...
The entire neocom stinks of :awesome:, they added stuff just for the sake of adding them like the hierarchical menus in the "eve-menu", if a UI designer tries to convince anyone that they are a good idea in 2012 he'll get fired (outside the world of software development for professionals).
And why are the ships and items icons stuck next to the ******* undock button? Who thought that was a good idea? |
Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
44
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Posted - 2012.01.24 16:01:00 -
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Rixiu wrote:Preferred the old way simply because minimizing chat windows used to be useful, now if I'm "lucky" I get this useless mess: http://piclair.com/data/yexkt.jpgbut usually I get this: http://piclair.com/data/yhzxm.jpgDidn't want to access those chat windows anyways I guess... The entire neocom stinks of :awesome:, they added stuff just for the sake of adding them like the hierarchical menus in the "eve-menu", if a UI designer tries to convince anyone that they are a good idea in 2012 he'll get fired (outside the world of software development for professionals). And why are the ships and items icons stuck next to the ******* undock button? Who thought that was a good idea?
You know you can invite multiple people to a single chat channel, and you don't have to chat to them all individually? I have a specific comb for my beard. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
213
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Posted - 2012.01.24 16:06:00 -
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Eugene Spencer wrote:Rixiu wrote:Preferred the old way simply because minimizing chat windows used to be useful, now if I'm "lucky" I get this useless mess: http://piclair.com/data/yexkt.jpgbut usually I get this: http://piclair.com/data/yhzxm.jpgDidn't want to access those chat windows anyways I guess... The entire neocom stinks of :awesome:, they added stuff just for the sake of adding them like the hierarchical menus in the "eve-menu", if a UI designer tries to convince anyone that they are a good idea in 2012 he'll get fired (outside the world of software development for professionals). And why are the ships and items icons stuck next to the ******* undock button? Who thought that was a good idea? You know you can invite multiple people to a single chat channel, and you don't have to chat to them all individually?
It's not always a good idea to talk to multiple people in the same channel, in each other's presence :) ^^ |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
780
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Posted - 2012.01.24 16:14:00 -
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New neocom didn't offer me anything but annoying flashy chat button and 15 minutes of useless configuring. It is bulljunk with too much useless multimedia. Rollback thank you.
Get |
Borlag Crendraven
EVE University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2012.01.24 16:43:00 -
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Overall I like the new neocom, but I find the whole chat icon to be completely and utterly useless. I don't need it flashing there to see the numerous tabs flashing on various chat channels. An option to remove the icon from ever being visible would be nice, but I'd settle simply by not having it flash at any time when it's open and not minimized. Sure I could remove the blinking from everything, but that'd prevent me from seeing some of the things I want to see such as new EVE mails or changes in the wallet or whatever it is that I'd like to see at any given time. In short, give us a rmb mebu to disable flashing for any given icon in the neocom.
Along with this, I'd very much welcome the possibility of adding things like the in game browser there, perhaps even with the option of having specific bookmarks on the main bar without having to have opened them previously. Good examples being the Ombeve/Dotlan/StaticMapper maps, market resource tools like the jitonomic and so on. In short, more options on customizing it. It might also be that I'm quite simply dumb, but I also don't see the option of adding anything to self created groups, or even the option of naming the said group, the rmb menu only gives the option of removing the said group and dragging into it doesn't seem to work either. |
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:05:00 -
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Horrible change.
All those in-your-face flashing icons every time you accept a mission instead of the old discreet high-lighted text labels.
And where are the text labels? I could recognise them much faster than trying to remember which icon is which. |
Krystal Flores
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
3
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:10:00 -
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I don't really like the new neo-com but Eugene Spencer's idea helped to make it less painful. |
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
24
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:21:00 -
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how the **** do i change it back?!?!?! this sucks balls !!! |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
285
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:21:00 -
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new way is ******* ********, just petition it they find a way CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
218
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:25:00 -
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Fat chance that anyone with blue bars will read this thread, let alone reply to it, but we should let it be known that we are unhappy with this change.
Jita monument pew pew anyone? |
J Kunjeh
340
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:34:00 -
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I'm doing my best not to whine here, but I too liked the old way of minimizing.... "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Z'kaar Quasar
Shadows of Golgothan
0
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:35:00 -
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Seriously, instead of bottom, they go to left. EMOTEENRAGE?
New is better, old was so 2000.
(real reason why ppl are whining is that their bots went mad) |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.01.24 18:09:00 -
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I'm sorry, Mr. Unpronouncable Name With An Apostrophe In It For Some Reason, the reason that the minimise option (the real one, not this weird side minimising thing) is there is because most of the freaking world is used to minimising things to the bottom of the screen, not the side.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
28
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Posted - 2012.01.24 18:46:00 -
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Joahna Gramer wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:If you open your journal, and click the minimise button, it no longer goes to the bottom of the screen like it used to. It now disappeares and can only be accessed again by clicking on the button on the left hand bar. Mucho annoying It's just a thing of convenience. If you hit the Journal button on the left the Journal will open. If you hit the button again it will not close but minimize the journal (the button will get shiny). If you hit the button once again it will pop up faster this time because its just maximizing the window. If you ask me pretty neat to have only button instead of the hundreds of bars at the bottom.
THIS IS VERY INCONVIENIENT FOR ME. Now I'm having to click extra buttons to see blinking instead of just looking down at the bottom of the screen. FAIL NEOCOM for me :'( |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
28
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Posted - 2012.01.24 18:50:00 -
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Krystal Flores wrote:I don't really like the new neo-com but Eugene Spencer's idea helped to make it less painful.
It made it more painfull to me... I wasted an hour trying to figure it out then found the end result caused other problems for me |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2719
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Posted - 2012.01.24 19:22:00 -
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Ye gods nothing works to fix this
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Traiori
Silverwing Explorers Unfamiliar Presence
9
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Posted - 2012.01.24 19:47:00 -
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+1 to bringing back minimising.
I can't see which channels are talking to me any more. |
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