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Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 03:47:00 -
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Sure why not, count me in.
Axel Greye is the character I will be using.
As far as highsec aggro goes, best bet is:
1. both participants of the 1v1 drop a jetcan on station.
2. each participant steals from the opponents jetcan.
3. both participants warp to desired 'arena' and the fight begins on contact.
What about rules like de-aggression and module limitations?
If neither party can kill the other is it a draw?
If a participant warps out does he forfeit?
Is the use of ECM sanctioned and if so, is it limited to ECM drones or Racial Modular ECM?
Are ships limited to T1-T2 Modules or is the use of Faction and Deadspace Modules Permitted?
Is the use of Implants Sanctioned?
Also, rather than putting both parties in the same fleet (as it makes passing aggro a hassle), I would suggest putting each participant into their own fleet, with a neutral adjudicator to validate the fleet is unbonused. |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 05:43:00 -
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Uppsy Daisy wrote:If Prom doesn't enter this after all that AF testing he's a big baby.
I hope he does, I owe him a second shot at killing me. =P |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 08:11:00 -
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Quote:If neither party can kill the other, judge's decision is final after scanning both fits.
Any fit with under 80 dps damage (purely defensive fits with no offensive capability) forfeits.
This in itself is fine, but then I suggest you revise the previous statement of:
Quote:No module limitations
The reason I say this is for example, a well tanked Vengeance tanks around 140-160 DPS. Lets assume for argument sake his opponent is a Railgun Ishkur Kiting beyond 20km with a MWD, The Railgun Ishkur will never break the vengeances cap stable tank, and the vengeance with its limited speed and rocket range will never catch the Ishkur to kill it. Both setups do more than 80dps as per the rules, but the match-up is Inconsequential as neither party will kill the other.
Might I make the suggestion of Banning MWD's for this tournament? This will encourage a nice scram-range style of combat from all assault frigates, but will still mean kiting is possible, but open to pilot error.
Also:
Quote:Faction/Deadspace modules, Implants, boosters I assume you mean combat boosters (pills) and not gang boosters. =P |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 08:36:00 -
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Basically it comes down to whether you want a Rock paper Scissors style tournament, or a Format Tournament.
With Assault frigates, there are 3 varieties:
1. MWD + Disrupt
2. MWD + Scram
3. AB + Scram
MWD + Disrupt Will Kite setup number 3 with little worry, but risks getting caught and shut down by setup 2.
MWD + Scram Stands a good chance of catching setup 1, but is outperformed close range by setup 3.
AB + Scram beats setup 2 in scram range, but stands very little chance of catching setup 1.
Setting a Format like: AB Only may seem like a limitation, but it will cut back on Rock Paper Scissor style win conditions hugely, and thus offer a better tournament meta in my opinion. People CAN still try long range kiting by doing AB + Disrupt, but it atleast gives AB + Scram assault frigates a fighting chance of catching them. |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 10:39:00 -
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I think you are sidestepping the point abit. =P
yes MWD's are a part of the game, and conventional combat between AF's is very Rock Paper Scissor style, But that doesn't mean it has to be so for the tournament.
You have the chance to make a much more satisfying tournament meta by making a format in advance, otherwise the matchups are going to be won based on luck rather than skill.
its like putting a black-belt fighting midget and an Olympic sprinter on a track, only to tell them on the day that they will be jumping hurdles. Set a standard now, so that competitors can actually compete with each other.
as for the DPS/Tank ratio, I wouldn't set a minimum DPS requirement because that doesn't really solve the issue. A 200 DPS Brick tanking vengeance will still not be broken. Limiting fits to AB only however WILL reduce the chance of unbreakable matchups. Most close range assault frigs have the DPS/Neut ability to break most other assault frig tanks, and those that don't will lose to the tanking frigates damage output in respect.
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Axel Greye
Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2012.01.25 16:10:00 -
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Nah, if you are going to put caps on DPS and Tank like that count me out. 
Essentially you are saying you will not dissallow MWD's, but you WILL Disallow any assault frigate with a good active tank. |
Axel Greye
Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2012.01.25 16:17:00 -
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and I ASSUME that by running away you mean kiting. and if you are going to ban kiting WHY NOT JUST BAN MWDS? |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:49:00 -
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I still say a blanket ban on MWD's solves alot of if not all issues. |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.25 20:40:00 -
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so I propose:
Ban on MWD
Ban on ECM
No Restriction on DPS applied or DPS Tanked
No Restriction on Ammo
No Restriction on Modules
No Restriction on Boosters
No Restriction on Implants
this gives competitors a pretty good format for basing their fits on. |
Axel Greye
Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2012.01.25 23:44:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Khrage wrote:Axel Greye wrote:I still say a blanket ban on MWD's solves alot of if not all issues. it's funny, esspecially since the recent buff, MWD fit AFs are the most viable in actual combat situations... lolno
I think he misinterpreted the 'role bonus' of that buff.  |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.28 11:22:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Frankly, I think that the fights should happen in Amamake at a planet or safe spot. Just bring your AFs and come rumble. Even if this doesn't take off, I'll be there.
Waiting.
Killing.
:)
-Liang
Pfft I went to amamake last night and still the same faggetree
My hawk gets tackled in belt by kiting malediction, coercer and retribution land.
...and when the coercer and retribution couldn't break me the retribution has to go back to station to swap into an ashimmu. D:<
BOO ON YOU SIR. |
Axel Greye
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:07:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:Toon in NPC corp?
One like on forums?
Making the rules up as you go for this?
Looks like a scam is very likely on this.
Free 100mil for a forum thread yay!
Yeh it all started out well enough, but its been going downhill ever since. |
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