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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:20:00 -
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So I went and bought a Scorp. Decided to go out and hunt a little npc's and test some setups. I warp in to a field and a nice 5 rat spawn was waiting for me like they are supposed to. Cut through them like a hot knife through butter. As I made my way toward the loot another rat appeared.
1 Serpentis Sentinal Frigate. Like all npc's do he instantly engages me. I try to lock him, and nothing worked on my ship. Absolutely nothing. He locks me from 30km and fires 1 time, I repeat 1 time. And "BOOM" my Scorpion starts exploding. Mind you that I was at full shields, full armor, full hull, full cap with a ton of Tanking mods.
And this was followed by the coolest graphic bug I have ever seen. A station inside an asteroid on top of a moon with my pod in the middle of it all.
I did the math, and totalled with my setup that 17,453.5 points of damage was inflicted in 1 shot by one Serpentis Sentinal.
Of Course I petitioned this Instantly. But since this bug has never been seen before, I didn't fall under the reimbursment rules by CCP.
I was pretty outraged about that. So anyway, just thought I'd let you know that the coding has gone awry in some of the NPC's, hope they don't one shot you either.
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John Blackthrone
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:26:00 -
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I suppose you dont have any Sreenschots and/or logs right?
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:30:00 -
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Quote: I suppose you dont have any Sreenschots and/or logs right?
Hate to break it to ya, but neither screenies nor user logs prove a single thing.
CCP needs to have logs for this, not the player.
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Tatsu
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:34:00 -
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if it was only 1 shot and i doubt it was.... not saying ur a liar just a drunk.
You would have gotten a mail from concorde telling you the final death blow (what hit you and for how much damage) so you know exactly what happened.... but since you clearly didnt get this then you were more than likely just drunk. =)
------------------------------------ We do not ask for your poor or your hungry. We do not want your tired and sick. It is your corrupt we claim. It is your evil that will be saught by us. With every breath we shall hunt them down. Each day we will spill their blood ætil it rains down from the skies. One day you will look behind you and you will see we three, and on that day, you will reap it. And we will send you to whatever god you wish. |

John Blackthrone
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: John Blackthrone on 23/02/2004 11:39:15 I didnt want to be offensiv or anthing just want to see this freakin NPC but the story sounds a bit unbelievable.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:53:00 -
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Well, your the drunk one miss. I never said i didn't get a letter from concord.
I got the letter. Still have it.
Also got paid my insurance. And heres the thing, even if it was a huge pack of 85ks, it still would have taken a little bit for them to kill me. I am sooooooo far from noob you don't even have a clue.
BUGs happen. So I didn't get my ship back? So I went bought another one right after that. This post was just a warning to everyone that there are some new coding error bugs that are happining within the NPC realm.
What do you think would happen if the damage mod on any gun freakishly went from 2.75 to 2750.0? ya that little 17 point hit would turn into 17000 point hit.
Oh ya, whens the last time you took a screenie of shooting frigate npc? You didn't read the second half of my post.
And this was followed by the coolest graphic bug I have ever seen. A station inside an asteroid on top of a moon with my pod in the middle of it all.
Just a message from your local bug reporter.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:55:00 -
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You might have the logs in your eve directory, check it.
Bug when bugs hit you there is nothing you can do but to accept it. Spawn of the Devil
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.02.23 12:18:00 -
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Aye, I hate the bugs. I just don't want to think that CCP are picking and chosing who gets the reimburse over who after they check your account and player status.
Should it matter whether someone had 5bil in the wallet, over someone who had 5mil and the same scenario happened?
[ 2004.02.23 00:34:07 ] (notify) Warping to Pain VI - Asteroid Belt 1 [ 2004.02.23 00:35:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 654.0 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:27 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 511.1 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:31 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 329.0 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:32 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I hits Serpentis Chief Sentinel, doing 309.4 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:35 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 453.9 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:38 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I barely scratches Serpentis Chief Sentinel, causing 89.4 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:40 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I barely scratches Serpentis Chief Sentinel, causing 72.5 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:41 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 551.9 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:44 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I lightly hits Serpentis Chief Sentinel, doing 47.7 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:46 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 441.9 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:48 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 660.5 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:51 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 392.3 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:53 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 417.2 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I lightly hits Serpentis Chief Sentinel, doing 87.6 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:58 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 597.7 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:36:01 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 406.3 damage.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.23 12:41:00 -
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Your post with your log shows nothing about the dmg you took from the NPC so I fail to see how you lost your ship ?
I was referring to the last logs about the hit you got when killed and how much it was and from what type of NPC. Spawn of the Devil
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2004.02.23 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Paddyman on 23/02/2004 14:06:02 I'd like to know how your getting so many 660's,600's,high 500's and high 400's with 425 rail gun 1's on a scorp????
What setup is that, and how many dmg mods?
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Destable
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Posted - 2004.02.23 14:38:00 -
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Yeah, I'd like that answered also. Getting consistantly higher %'s of excellent hits that I ever do with either 425's or Neutrons, even when I'm going nuts with the damage mods & tracking computers.
What's your secret?
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2004.02.23 14:38:00 -
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Who's to say it was a bug at all?
Maybe there are some big mothers out there that are sick and tired of us "wannab gods" killing every rat in sight?
Think about it.
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Karnov Darkstar
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Posted - 2004.02.23 14:41:00 -
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Quote:
[ 2004.02.23 00:35:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 654.0 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:27 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 511.1 damage. ... [ 2004.02.23 00:35:48 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 660.5 damage.
I call shenanigans. __________________________ Ketchup! Everywhere! Suckers! |

Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.02.23 15:56:00 -
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Maybe the npc had a smurgleblaster
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Rinji
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Posted - 2004.02.23 16:01:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
[ 2004.02.23 00:35:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 654.0 damage. [ 2004.02.23 00:35:27 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 511.1 damage. ... [ 2004.02.23 00:35:48 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 660.5 damage.
I call shenanigans.
Aye... 660? Best I've ever done is very high 200's with Anti, and I have gunnery skills out the wazoo. Maybe it was tech 5 damage mods? 
Vice Admiral Rinji Morisato Logistics Division Commanding Officer of Logistics Division |

Valeria
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Posted - 2004.02.23 16:12:00 -
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Omfg, not even with Tech V 425mm's could you hit that good with a Scorpion.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

Paddyman
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Posted - 2004.02.23 16:48:00 -
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Quote: Omfg, not even with Tech V 425mm's could you hit that good with a Scorpion
LOL yea, and he's trying to warn us that "NPC'S HAVE NEW WEAPONS THAT DO SERIOUS DAMAGE", ive haven't seen dmg like that since Rev/Lord Zap were at the Mara gate all them moons ago.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.02.23 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 23/02/2004 16:55:49 Yeah, 660 with a 425 is something of a mystery.
I have very good (lvl 4/5) gunnery skills AND a megathron at lvl 4 skill as well. My max stands at a score of about 500, and that's an exception to the high side Most of my wrecks and good hits go for about 200-350. That is counting one excellent 9.x% damage mod and AM ammo too btw.
I guess using 7 damage mods on a megathron might do it, but on a scorp ??? mighty strange... _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 23/02/2004 17:16:33
Quote: [ 2004.02.23 00:35:32 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I hits Serpentis Chief Sentinel, doing 309.4 damage.
This log is IMPOSSIBLE
309.4 damage from a normal hit is impossible on a scorpion.
309.4 /(48*2.75*1.25*1.15)=1.630566
You only have 4 lowslots. Even with 4 tech 2 magnetic stabs, you don't reach that 1.630566 damage mod.
So even with 4 tech 2 damage mods and lvl 5 in all skills and against ZERO resistance, it is IMPOSSIBLE to do that damage.
Your log is a fake or you have some bug making you deal extra damage.
Not to mention the 660 hit. Exellent hit does not add more than a 1.5 damage mod. It is impossible to even deal a 450 excellent hit with a scorpion.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:18:00 -
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Quote: [ 2004.02.23 00:35:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 654.0 damage.
LOL
I love modified logs.
I barely get wreckings as powerful as that on my Scorpion with one tech II mag field stab.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

F4ze
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Posted - 2004.02.23 19:14:00 -
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These are normal hits everybody can get with gallente bship 4, gunnery skills at 4:
Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Protector, wrecking for 433.7 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 543.2 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 743.4 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Defender, wrecking for 714.2 damage.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.02.23 19:56:00 -
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Yeah, but a wrecking shot consistently every 3 seconds? Heh.
So you can do 6022.4 DMG within 30 seconds before your target gets a shot off?
Weird stuff.. Isn't a Serpentis Chief Sentinel a 65k Thorax NPC rat? Still that rat can not take 6022.4 damage without popping.
5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.
My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004 |

PwDarkKnight
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Posted - 2004.02.23 20:11:00 -
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Chief sentinel is just a 35k rat in a Celestis. --
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.23 20:53:00 -
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"These are normal hits everybody can get with gallente bship 4, gunnery skills at 4:"
... Thing is, the original posters claims to be in Scorpion (20% damage less off the bat) and those hits in their log ain't wrecking hits.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.02.23 21:37:00 -
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I think someone is just yanking your chains, and it seems to be working. lol
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.23 21:44:00 -
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Someone is using 4-5 med slot tracking computers :):) Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.02.23 21:50:00 -
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Do the standard tracking computers still give you uber stats? I heard they were giving more bonus than they were supposed to. Was a while back. Never got around to testing it so that I could file an exploit petition.
5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.
My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004 |

ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.23 22:00:00 -
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Quote: Do the standard tracking computers still give you uber stats? I heard they were giving more bonus than they were supposed to. Was a while back. Never got around to testing it so that I could file an exploit petition.
Not bugged like they used to be, but they do stack somewhat, and you would be suprised the quality of hits you get with a bunch of em. My guess is the op has to be using 4-5 of these to get hits like that seen in the above log. Perhaps even with some low slot enhancers to boot.
Could be wrong tho. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.02.23 22:38:00 -
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Wonder if she had 7-8 Optical or Tech 2 Tracking medium slot mods =) and 4 rare mags or mag Tech2, that might do the trick, I dunno maybe>? "Gets on Chaos" =D ---
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.23 22:57:00 -
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Quote:
Aye... 660? Best I've ever done is very high 200's with Anti, and I have gunnery skills out the wazoo. Maybe it was tech 5 damage mods? 
If the best youve ever done is high 200's then you might want to invest some time in skill training or buy a better ship. On a megathron (because of built in bonus) I average about 350 or 400 with 425mm rails and antimatter ammo with 1 damage mod (low slot) and 1 med slot targeting computer, but I only wreck for like 500 or so. If he really filled out the low slots with damage mods I suppose he could get damages like hes showing. If hes doing it without a lot of mods Id REALLY like to know how though.
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.02.23 23:01:00 -
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Quote: These are normal hits everybody can get with gallente bship 4, gunnery skills at 4:
Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Protector, wrecking for 433.7 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 543.2 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 743.4 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Defender, wrecking for 714.2 damage.
True but dude in this thread said he was in a SCORP which doesnt get the megathron's built in bonuses to damage and tracking speed. With minimal mods on a megathron I average 350 or 400 damage on 425's and wreck for 500 or so. I could probably believe the damages that are posted in his "logs" if they came from a megathron really set up with lots of damage mods, but from a scorp ? HIGHLY unlikely.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.23 23:44:00 -
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Quote: These are normal hits everybody can get with gallente bship 4, gunnery skills at 4:
Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Protector, wrecking for 433.7 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 543.2 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 743.4 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Serpentis Defender, wrecking for 714.2 damage.
1. The poster had exellent hits, not wrecking hits. A wrecking is 2x as much as an excellent.
2. The poster is in a scorp, you're in a mega. That gives you a 1.2x multiplier.
Converting your 714.2 wrecking with a mega to a excellent hit with a scorp, gives only 298 damage.
The poster claims to do 660.
That also means that the poster "claims" to be able to score wrecking shots for 1500 damage with standard 425mm rails if he had a megathron.
 
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Arleonenis
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Posted - 2004.02.24 00:35:00 -
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Hmmm strange log.. I don`t have ubber skills in gunnerys (4 mainly, except gunnery at 5 that is required for large) and with tempest (RIP ) (1400mm projectiles) 2 counterbalanced and 2 optical i wasn`t able to do that excellent hits...
I`m really interested how he could accomplish this if this isn`t fake?
Oh btw there are more strange bugs in eve, the strangest is to lose twice same ship, and get twice 40% inurance... so this instant kill isn`t very unlikely to happened... only this log is strange
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.02.24 00:45:00 -
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I had a similar bug... my Omen warped into an asteroid field and started getting hit and spinning round and round. The closest NPCs were about 60k away and were SENTINELS/GUARDS. I warped out ASAP after getting half shield damage... there was NO ONE who had even locked me.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.02.24 05:51:00 -
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His logs is bull****, I went on chaos, fitted on 7 Optical Tracking CPU's, 4 Magnetic rare vortexes and 4 425mm Prototypes and hits where 200-350, mostly 250-300. ---
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.24 06:32:00 -
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The best hit, I have ever done on my Raven with a 425mm Railgun I, is 565.6 damage, and my gunnery skills are well, pretty damn good.
Your log is obviously fake, especially if you were using a Scorpion. Even a Megathron kitted with every DMG Mod he could possibly fit + every 425mm he could possibly fit, would never hit that hard using a 425mm.
Not even a 1400mm Scout Artillery could match those shots, the only shot you obvioulsy didnt alter was the 76dmg scratch, which I get often on my railguns. Obviously fake because if your average damage truly was 500-600 damage, your barely scratches would easily exceed 150dmg. ------
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.02.24 06:41:00 -
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How lame...
Putting a post in to support a claim that the NPC`s do uber damage, not having a single npc shot in the log and almost all of it being edited
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Busko Moonwalker
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Posted - 2004.02.24 07:34:00 -
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:P i barly do 100damage with my best shots using iridum ammo in my Thorax :D but i avg around 55points. With gunnery 5, Sugical Strike 5 and M Hybrid 4. Have to Tracerkers one low slot and one Medium slot.
If i remeber correct and i think i tried it when u fit 2 meduim tracker or low slot trackers you dont get any better values.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.02.24 11:07:00 -
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Damn, it was really late, posted wrong half of the the combat log. That was when I was in my megathron earlier that day in the same system.
Tell me you can't get that kinda damage with T2 Magnetic Field Stabs, and tech 2 tracking mods with a megathron. With %95 skills in combat related areas.
Yes I had my scorp setup for damage, all tech 2 weapon mods, cept the 425mm Rails. Normally get shots for 250-375. Crits - 550-600 with Scorp.
My bad. my apologies.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.24 11:26:00 -
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Quote: Yeah, I'd like that answered also. Getting consistantly higher %'s of excellent hits that I ever do with either 425's or Neutrons, even when I'm going nuts with the damage mods & tracking computers.
What's your secret?
i was just thinking the exact same thing.
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Perera
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Posted - 2004.02.24 11:50:00 -
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me senses a wind up... or a bored forum poster.
Perera - Corp shrink!
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.02.24 12:05:00 -
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Quote: Damn, it was really late, posted wrong half of the the combat log. That was when I was in my megathron earlier that day in the same system.
Tell me you can't get that kinda damage with T2 Magnetic Field Stabs, and tech 2 tracking mods with a megathron. With %95 skills in combat related areas.
Yes I had my scorp setup for damage, all tech 2 weapon mods, cept the 425mm Rails. Normally get shots for 250-375. Crits - 550-600 with Scorp.
My bad. my apologies.
What the hell are you doing hunting NPC's in a Scorpion anyways?
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.02.24 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: JoKane on 24/02/2004 12:26:24 I¦ve done 746 dmg with my mega and 425¦s. That was with large hybrid lvl4, gallente bs lvl3, 3 dmg mods, am ammo and me hitting a station.
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