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Indoril Siconus
Caldari Lambent Technologies
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Posted - 2007.11.27 01:38:00 -
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I has the following
Dell Dimension 4600 Pentium 4 2.6 ghz 512 RAM 100M integrated PCI NIC card 250W power supply (i believe)
should i just grab a 6200 or what?
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Deadly Harbinger
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.28 05:45:00 -
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Thanks for the guide!
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Coeleth
The Divine Comedy
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Posted - 2007.11.28 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Indoril Siconus I has the following
Dell Dimension 4600 Pentium 4 2.6 ghz 512 RAM 100M integrated PCI NIC card 250W power supply (i believe)
should i just grab a 6200 or what?
I certainly wouldn't get a 6200. I have a P4 3ghz with a 6600LE and Trinity is just barely putting out enough frames per second for me to be comfortable hauling or mining (10-30fps). If you're going to stay with AGP, (like I am), I'd go for the ultra-est version of whatever AGP card you can get and probably a higher end 7-series, not a 6.
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Seifer Al'Masy
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.28 14:02:00 -
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I play EvE on a laptop, AMD Turion 64 X2 TL50. My graphics card is a nVidia GO 6150. can anyone confirm if it suports SM3 ?
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Pwyle Kenobi
InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2007.11.29 12:14:00 -
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If anyone has the expertise and knowledge, can you please consider this:
AGPx8 - GeForce 7950 GT vs Radeon X1950 Pro
Cheers!
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Snar Eos
Minmatar FW Scuad
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Posted - 2007.11.29 14:32:00 -
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Hi all.
I have a P4 2.4Ghrz Hypher Threading 1GB Ram 400Ghrz-Dual Channel 9800 Ati Radeon 256 AGP.
Im planning to only upgrade the Video Card to X1300 or x1950, but i Have an 400 Watt Power Source, will it handle the x1950? Also is the saphire x1950 as good as the Radeon?
Thx
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Delinquent Miner
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Snar Eos Hi all.
Im planning to only upgrade the Video Card to X1300 or x1950, but i Have an 400 Watt Power Source, will it handle the x1950?
As long as you don't have lots of fast-spinning hard disks, and/or DVD writers, I imagine you should be fine, power-wise. If you're thinking of upgrading your ram at the same time, you might as well spring the $17 for a 450w PS while you're at it.
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Also is the saphire x1950 as good as the Radeon?
the Sapphire is a Radeon. It's just ATi's name for the chipset. They don't manufacture any cards directly, to my knowledge, just like nVidia doesn't.
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pentinor
Spy Cotic's
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Posted - 2007.11.29 22:23:00 -
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Just got a new computer, As of right now it has a crappy Geforce 6150 se integrated card,but i think it MIGHT support se3(not a computer genius so the numbers get me confuzzed =P)...can anyone confirm this?
BTW i would use the the se3 checker to check to see if it does but im still waiting for my monitor to arrive to at my house =/ -
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Kaya Divine
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.30 23:22:00 -
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In another words dearest CCP, us mortals who are not computer geeks or we don`t have company in which we can play during work hours...new graphic is out from our reach....
Anyway you should not be forced by NVIDIA employees to use SM3 but hey everything that makes your pockets full can`t be so bad.
I consulted moralists to learn how to appear, philosophers to find out what to think and novelists to see what I could get away with and in the end it all came down to one principle:win or die. |
Yosarian
Hand Of The Tahiri Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:22:00 -
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I'm curious how anyone has been getting on with a MacBook Pro (running windows naturally)
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Darth Syphils
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Posted - 2007.12.03 22:56:00 -
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I have a Pen D dual core processor 2.66 mhz, 2 gig ram. Only has a PCI slot. Any suggestions on a new chip set?
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searess
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:56:00 -
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I have been using a sony vaio s3hp to play this game for 2 years now, Specs Centrino 1.6 1 gig mem Nvid 6200 turbocache
The new graphics do not work on his card so if your using a similar card forget it Hijackzorzzzz
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Laice
Caldari The Greater Good Novus Aevum
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:42:00 -
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one assumes my quad core 2.4 ghz and pair of 8800gtx's will be fine.......... I have a really nice signature. It doesnt exceed the 24000 byte limit, or the height restrictions - Laice |
Campusanis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 21:24:00 -
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I keep getting ignored when asking this, so I'll try again.
The main issue with Shader Model 2 is that it cannot handle a sufficient amount af shader instructions/commands. However, many fairly new laptops (like mine) have got a built-in - that is, not upgradable - ATI X700 - X850. These cards (and maybe some more, not sure there) supply a special "Shader Model 2_b" which can operate with exactly the same amount of instructions as Shader Model 3 cards. So are the other new features of SM3 so drastic that it's completely impossible to even let SM2_b have a try?
I'd just like to have some input on that.
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Bombcrater
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.07 11:59:00 -
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Shader Model 2.0b has significant limitations compared to 3.0. See the comparison chart here for more details. |
Campusanis
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Posted - 2007.12.07 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Campusanis on 07/12/2007 12:11:45 Yet, they also share some things and there's significant improvement over Shader Model 2.0.
I just don't get why CCP made it so that the game won't even try to use the Premium content. Make it be extremely slow or crash, fine, but then I'll believe that it's entirely impossible.
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Sprobe
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Posted - 2007.12.07 12:18:00 -
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thanks for the texels comparison!
now I know for sure that my 8600 GTS was good for nothing. I should have never listened to the weird shop guy.
I will go for 8800GT for sure, my system is a Core2Duo, 4GB ram, ... what a pity that i have a 8600GTS, screw myself!
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Rensoman
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Posted - 2007.12.07 12:31:00 -
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Dear Sir, What could you tell me, about ATI RADEON X1550 card ? does it support shaders v3 ? I can't find it in below list
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Bombcrater
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Campusanis I just don't get why CCP made it so that the game won't even try to use the Premium content. Make it be extremely slow or crash, fine, but then I'll believe that it's entirely impossible.
Trying to execute SM3.0 code on a card that only handles SM2.0b will simply cause the graphics driver to lock up or crash. Eve is buggy enough without CCP putting in an option that will never do anything but crash the system. |
Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.12.08 01:53:00 -
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hello,
well i found this thread and i guess u are the guys with the right knowledge. i only have limited (very limited) skills with pcs and tech specs so bear with me. my problem is that i bought a bulk pc 2 years ago and i thought it would be an awsome idea...well it wasnt since i learned more about bulk deals and why the industry packs em fll of "Special edition" crap so u get the worsest performance available...
i want my pc to ru nthe new gfx content since i play eve because im an design fanatic. here are my specs found out via target's pc wiz linky:
Manufacturer:Hewlett Packard Mainboard :MSI MS-7010 Chipset :VIA K8T800 (VT8383) Processor :AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2400 MHz Ram :1024 MB (2 x 512 DDR-SDRAM ) GFX Card :Nvidia Corp GeForce FX 5500 [NV34.6] Hard Drive :ST3200021A (200 GB) DVD-Rom Drive :HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GWA-4083B Netcard :VT82C570 MV IDE Controller VT6102 Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter OS :Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2 DirectX :Version 9.0c
Bus Type of th gfx card is AGP (at least the wiz tells me so) so guys what to do? im planing to get myself a mac someday as im a design student but atm i cant afford completely new hardware so how can i get my pc to run graphics stable and avoid getting 0.237 fps when i approach a floating can? (btw i crashed 3 times today while aproaching gates with the classic graphics content patch installed...i guess ccp wants my name deleted from the subscriber list)
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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AeonOfTime
Minmatar Syrkos Technologies
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Posted - 2007.12.08 11:27:00 -
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Thanks a lot for the guide!
Now that the new content is out and I was able to test the new graphics engine, I am quite disappointed with my GeForce 7600 GS. It runs the game smoothly, but forget better shadows - and HDR absolutely kills it. Knowing this is on a four month old PC with 2 GB RAM, And an Athlon 64 X2 Dual core 5000+ processor all I can say is, MEH :\
So now I am thinking of at least upgrading my graphics card. But how do I know a card like the 8800 GTS will be able to run EVE smoothly with all graphic options?
-- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com
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The RAv3n
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Posted - 2007.12.08 15:58:00 -
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Some how I see a big no coming my way, but since i am unable to upgrade my laptop, is the Intel GMA 950 able to handle the performance upgrade, or must I wait another $1000 for a new computer? Also I am looking at computers, mostly laptops. What do people know and think about a Sony Vaio with what I believe to be 2 8400 cards and 1 gig of graphics memory? is it worth it, or is the 2 8400 a piece of crap and I should look for one with an 8600($300 more)?
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Nhi'Khuna
e X i l e Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.18 20:24:00 -
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Hey Folks,
Just upgraded my video card and I noticed that there were allot of Dell Dimension folks.
I have a:
Dell Dimension 5150 Intel 3.0Ghz Pent 4 2gb RAM
Upgraded to an ATI Radeon HD2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 PCI-e card. No problems at all. Power requirements were recommended at 300W (Dell Dimension 5000 series comes with 305 watts) so you meet those.
My experience has typically been that 'Plug and Play' is something of a snide joke. But in this case it was fabulously easy. Only cost $150.
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Bambi
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:57:00 -
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Just got a new card for premium content, on a budget and on a mid range pc. XP3200 chip (2Ghz) 3Gb PC3200 ATI X1650 Pro 512Mb card
The card I picked up for ú45, which I thought was a bargain.
I get 40-50 fps normally at 1600x1200 dropping to the low 30's in a real heavy mission, not brilliant I'll admit, but its good enough for an old fart who thought 8 colours was cool and wondered why BBC BASIC didn't have draw circle command
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Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2007.12.30 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tkar vonBiggendorf
Originally by: Bombcrater Note: ATi and NVidia have new cards coming out soon (8800GT & HD2950) that will be significantly better value than their existing models, so the 8800GTS and HD2900Pro are good buys now but may not be in a months time.
This is an important point for those on a budget. New graphics cards always come out right before Christmas. Revelations III is scheduled for late November. When the new crop of cards comes out, the existing cards will drop in price.
Heed Bombcrater's warnings on power supplies. Newer CPUs and graphics chips are power hungry. An underrated power supply can lead to various intermittent and hard to trace problems with your computer.
yea the 8800GTS 640 was an unheard of deal when I bought it in may at $369. I wouldn't buy it now tho lol. Still a great card for the money at the time I bought it. The GTX was in the $700's at the time. The new cards are going to be better (duh?). I also got a 750W modular power supply so I'm ready to go SLi. If I were thinking of a new card soon I'd be patient and buy in March after the "new shiny" effect wears off and prices drop a little. Now, if I could only find that extra $800 I misplaced...
As far as a wattage guide, my motherboard manual recommends 500W for a pair of SLi'd 7950's. The 8800's use more juice so I wouldn't mess with less than 600W to be safe if you don't want to let the smoke out.
However, the ultimate guide is your motherboard manual. Listen to it and check out the video hardware manufacturer's recommendations. Just don't think the 3 year old Antec 430 is going to cut it for long.
Power supplies are one of those things you can drastically overspec for a comparatively small amount of money and the price of disaster has the potential to be very high. An overspecced power supply is a cool power supply. A cool power supply is a long lasting one.
I burned one up once. Luckily none of my other components were damaged. It sure wasn't pleasant. It was very scary. Bright blue flames shot out the back of my computer and my entire living room filled up with a very nasty smell.
It wasn't Antec's fault ROFL. I used my old 380 PSU for a newer generation PC with a high end video card.
-K /*----------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ My opinion in no way represents that of my corp or anyone I am associated with, and is probably entirely wrong. |
Ciara Daag
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.01.06 14:33:00 -
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Heres a great guide,which is released monthly on what the best graphics card for the money is.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/03/the_best_gaming_graphics/
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velusip
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Posted - 2008.01.09 02:09:00 -
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Just bought an ATI HD3850 to replace a fanless 7600GS (wanted quiet). The 7600GS could present all of Trinity's fanciful graphics, but at a poor 10-20fps even with few ships on-screen. This new card rocks a round 40-60fps at a reduced wattage with loads of ships on-screen. For $160 CAD, I recommend it!
Remember, before you go buying an ATI card make sure your power supply has a 6-pin power rail. Otherwise you might need a molex to 6-pin adaptor. ATI cards only use 3 of the 6 pins anyway, so it's cool. If you're handy with solder it might be a fun hack.
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The Fates
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.02.13 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sertan Deras Why are you looking at texels/s as your only benchmark of power?
I know its almost necromantic of me to reply, but, it was a valid question.
The main reason why is because if you've been following these things for a long time that's how they price the cards. Your argument, while sound, ignores the fact that, in games, the performance of a given card can usually (if not always) be predicted by this one statistic given that the card is from the same manufacturer, and even in most cases regardless of manufacturer. Generally speaking when they deviate from pricing the card along this line there is some other reason why, and it usually isnt a good one.
If they are going to use this as a determining factor in price (and 99% of the time they do) you can be willing to bet its also a determining factor in performance if you believe that you get what you pay for. :)
My 2 isk on it. There's different ways to evaluate these products, like I said originally, thats one way to see it, and its the way I've seen it since... well, as long as I've been spending my own money on them.
For money where my mouth is, I purchased a 7900GS to run EVE at 1920x1200 and while it has done well, the framerate for premium content was unacceptable to me (somewhere around a 30fps average, but spikes lower and higher). It's definately video card bound as my current cpu is only at around 50%. Classic runs at a constant 60 fps limited by vsynch. I suspect the problem is having only 256MB of video ram more than it is the GPU.
Just to add something here, the big deal about a video card now is that for resolutions beyond 1280x1024 the limiting factor at this point is the video card, for lower resolutions its generally the CPU. With LCD's taking over, you're pretty likely to at least have 1280x1024, a good balance spot between the two bottlenecks for an average system, or more, meaning a video card is more important than ever for good framerate. __ Be content with your lot; one cannot be first in everything. --Aesop |
Lenus Daragio
Foundry.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: velusip Just bought an ATI HD3850 to replace a fanless 7600GS (wanted quiet). The 7600GS could present all of Trinity's fanciful graphics, but at a poor 10-20fps even with few ships on-screen. This new card rocks a round 40-60fps at a reduced wattage with loads of ships on-screen. For $160 CAD, I recommend it!
Remember, before you go buying an ATI card make sure your power supply has a 6-pin power rail. Otherwise you might need a molex to 6-pin adaptor. ATI cards only use 3 of the 6 pins anyway, so it's cool. If you're handy with solder it might be a fun hack.
This actually depends on what video card you get. Most video cards that need the 6-pin PCI-Express power adapter, have a molex to PCI-Express adapter included in the box. It's not any ATI card (I have three PCI-Express SM3 capable cards, none of them have 6-Pin PCI Express power plugs on them) that needs these, it's simply higher powered video cards.
Check the box, and check your PC as well. If the video card has one of these plugins, you'll need to have a power supply capable of handling it. The back of the box the video card comes in usually tells you how big.
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Cutie Chaser
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Posted - 2008.04.01 00:56:00 -
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Could anyone hazard a guess as to the possibility of pushing the EVE premium client on this laptop?
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 (2.00GHz) 2M L2 Cache, 800MHz Dual Core
4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)
512MB NVIDIA Quadro FX 360M, 512MB Turbo Cache memory (256 dedicated)
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