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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.20 01:28:00 -
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Azureus 3.0 without Vuze.
uTorrent was great. But then a RIAA buddy bought BitTorrent, Inc. And then they bought uTorrent. And it's closed source. As a consequence, a lot of trackers nowadays actively block uTorrent (Demonoid, TPB are considering it).
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Kayosoni
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.20 01:41:00 -
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utorrent.
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Lady Caeser
Open Fist of Castallus
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Posted - 2007.10.20 01:58:00 -
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Be careful what you're doing with uTorrent (a.k.a. microtorrent). It was acquired by BitTorrent late last year and to anyone who knows about this stuff, BitTorrent is now in bed with the "big players" in media (Warner bros. etc.)
I would never recommend using it. BitSpirit is a nice lightweight torrent client that has a lot in common with the uTorrent way of doing things.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.10.20 02:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Ix Forres
Azureus 3.0 without Vuze.
uTorrent was great. But then a RIAA buddy bought BitTorrent, Inc. And then they bought uTorrent. And it's closed source. As a consequence, a lot of trackers nowadays actively block uTorrent (Demonoid, TPB are considering it).
So using uTorrent can bring the RIAA after me (assuming I downloaded a song which of course I don't).
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.20 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rikeka
I use Azureus 2.5, the one that does not have Vuze.
Azureus 3.0 (the one the OP has) ha sthe Vuze feature... which is cool and all (unless you have a crappy computer)
BTW, the 3.0 version has an Advanced Mode that works exactlty as the 2.5 version.
Actually, you can DISABLE the "Vuze" interface at any given time completely.
There's an "UI chooser" in the menus somewhere (I forget where, but you'll find it soon if you look for it).
You can choose between "Vuze", "Advanced Vuze" and "Classic".
Just pick "Classic" and don't be bothered by the Vuze crap anymore.
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Posted - 2007.10.20 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Kurt Armstrong
Originally by: lofty29
uTorrent ftw!
Has to be this tbfh
oh it is, it is UTORRENT FTW
Utorrent also makes toast, cant go wrong with that...
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.10.20 06:45:00 -
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Well...after seeing the comments here prompted me to do a little digging.
Bit Torrent = MPAA/RIAA
uTorrent = Bought out by Bit Torrent = MPAA/RIAA (probably)
Azureus = No one is quite sure. Reports of data being sent back to Azureus even before version 3.0 (with that whole new front end and DRM stuff). Still, jury seems out on just what they are up to and at least it is open source. That it sends some data back seems without question but how much it identifies you is open to question.
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Azerous has confirmed that it reports your total UL stats, your total DL stats, and your ISP name/info. It also changed its name to Zudeo which is not free. Utorrent got sold to Braham Cohen who which was forced to partner with Major Studios/mpaa because he was being threatened with legal action.
SOURCE: http://www.digg.com/tech_news/RIAA_buying_out_bit_torrent_clients
So at the very least, despite its nifty interface, toss uTorrent immediately. Guess I will see if I can dig up an old version of Azureus (2.5.0.4). Even that was open to some question. Supposedly version 3.x.x.x just has extra fiddly bits but it gets worrisome seeing that.
In the meantime I'll look for other clients that no one has thought to co-opt yet.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.10.20 06:55:00 -
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This page lists some alternatives to uTorrent/Bit Torrent/Azureus. A quick peek at the clients seems to show they are not as refined as the above but they lack the all important links to the **AAs (as far as we know anyway).
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.10.20 07:00:00 -
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Oh, and before you think, "Big deal if the RIAA is peeking" check this out (and note they never actually proved the defendant was the person sharing music):
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October 4 2007: 7:26 PM EDT
DULUTH, Minn. (AP) -- DULUTH, Minn. (AP) -- The recording industry won a key fight Thursday against illegal music downloading when a federal jury found a Minnesota woman shared copyrighted music online and levied $222,000 in damages against her.
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Record companies have filed some 26,000 lawsuits since 2003 over file-sharing...
SOURCE: http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/04/news/download_guilty.ap/index.htm
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xDow
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.20 07:35:00 -
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Bitlord 1.1
I've tried diffrent clients but for some reason this one always gives me the best speeds.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Well...after seeing the comments here prompted me to do a little digging.
Bit Torrent = MPAA/RIAA
uTorrent = Bought out by Bit Torrent = MPAA/RIAA (probably)
Azureus = No one is quite sure. Reports of data being sent back to Azureus even before version 3.0 (with that whole new front end and DRM stuff). Still, jury seems out on just what they are up to and at least it is open source. That it sends some data back seems without question but how much it identifies you is open to question.
Quote:
Azerous has confirmed that it reports your total UL stats, your total DL stats, and your ISP name/info. It also changed its name to Zudeo which is not free. Utorrent got sold to Braham Cohen who which was forced to partner with Major Studios/mpaa because he was being threatened with legal action.
SOURCE: http://www.digg.com/tech_news/RIAA_buying_out_bit_torrent_clients
So at the very least, despite its nifty interface, toss uTorrent immediately. Guess I will see if I can dig up an old version of Azureus (2.5.0.4). Even that was open to some question. Supposedly version 3.x.x.x just has extra fiddly bits but it gets worrisome seeing that.
In the meantime I'll look for other clients that no one has thought to co-opt yet.
crap, that sucks... I really liked utorrent, too. Damnit. Oh well, binning it now, I guess.
I wouldn't use Azureus simply because it is a boggy piece of crap that keeps munching away at your ram for, like, forever (java can bite me).
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 11:11:00 -
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Nothing wrong with Java.
But if people don't know how to code, even Java won't save them.
If Azureus was coded by the same coders in C++ it probably wouldn't even start up ;)
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.20 11:42:00 -
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Bittornado here.
It workd well, does exactly what I want and I have no reason to change it.
Recently had an arguement with my brother over which was better this or Ares (boo hiss) and ultimatly he couldn't get Ares to use TPB faster than I could.
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
Post with your alt.
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente
Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.20 14:33:00 -
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bit tornado. it works, and thats what matters, right?
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.10.20 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
Nothing wrong with Java.
But if people don't know how to code, even Java won't save them.
If Azureus was coded by the same coders in C++ it probably wouldn't even start up ;)
fair enough... I'm not a programmer. Azureus itself eats ram like candy though.
I've downloaded Bitspirit... we'll see how that works...
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Crazy Broad
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Posted - 2007.10.21 06:00:00 -
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utorrent
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Originally by: Captian Internet
This thread isn't delivery its digorno
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.10.21 06:11:00 -
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Azureus has the transfer encryption, which lets you get around ISP anti-peer-to-peer security. I personally user Azureus.
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NeoShocker
Caldari
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.21 06:22:00 -
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I used to use bittornado before, but if you're downloading a large file, it takes alot of memory, especially over time. uTorrent on the other hand, is tons better. :) Been using it ever since and no problems at all. I'd recommend it to anyone. :)
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Arokan Manturi
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.21 13:13:00 -
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Utorrent is the hax.
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.10.22 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 22/10/2007 10:51:51
don't download naughty things and uTorrent is as good as it gets.
if you enjoy a) scaremongering, b) bandwagons and/or c) conspiracy theories immediately delete uTorrent from your hard drive and burn any device that has ever been attached to your computer. twice.
although i met somebody who'd worked with the RIAA at some point so i'm clearly an Agent Of Evil, out to entrap as many innocent pirates as possible.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.10.22 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
if you enjoy a) scaremongering, b) bandwagons and/or c) conspiracy theories immediately delete uTorrent from your hard drive and burn any device that has ever been attached to your computer. twice.
The RIAA filed 26,000 lawsuits in the last 4 years relating to illegal downloading. They can hit you up for $750-30,000 per song (or $150,000 if it was "willful").
Where is the scaremongering? They are doing it. They are buying up Torrent clients for a reason. They are the freaking Gestapo in the US.
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Benco97
Gallente
Mineral Dynamics
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Posted - 2007.10.22 11:07:00 -
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I've heard that utorrent 1.6.474 is "safe" but I can't vouch for that, I don't know how it all works.
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 22/10/2007 11:09:15
Originally by: ry ry
if you enjoy a) scaremongering, b) bandwagons and/or c) conspiracy theories immediately delete uTorrent from your hard drive and burn any device that has ever been attached to your computer. twice.
The RIAA filed 26,000 lawsuits in the last 4 years relating to illegal downloading. They can hit you up for $750-30,000 per song (or $150,000 if it was "willful").
Where is the scaremongering? They are doing it. They are buying up Torrent clients for a reason. They are collecting data on you sent back to them by these clients. They are the freaking Gestapo in the US.
And yes, the RIAA is an evil entity.
any yet they have successfully prosecuted remarkably few people, including a grandmother, a 13 year old girl and some silly woman who's case is going to appeal as we speak, with a good chance of getting the original verdict quashed.
since torrents are essentially open to anybody, no torrents are 'safe'. i wouldn't count on an IP blocker / l33t torrent client combo to protect your identity. pulling back a list of seeds is remarkably easy so they know you grabbed the whole file, and were supplying it, bumping you into the top bracket of piracy law. (they claim google adds on torrent sites equate to profiteering from piracy for tracker sites, which has some insane punitive fines associated with it.)
since it's already been set as a legal precedent in the US that you are responsible for anything downloaded over your connection, claiming somebody was stealing your wireless connection won't cut the mustard anymore.
also, they'll want your HD to analyse, since it's possession of the actual data they're looking to prosecute you for. they'll be able to match your MAC address so giving them your mates HD isn't really an option.
if they send you an email, they're usually just trying to get you to incriminate yourself. not replying (and obviously stopping the piracy, at least until you've switched ISPs) is definitely the correct course of action.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.10.22 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
any yet they have successfully prosecuted remarkably few people, including a grandmother, a 13 year old girl and some silly woman who's case is going to appeal as we speak, with a good chance of getting the original verdict quashed.
That may be so but you are still out tens of thousands in legal fees not to mention the hell of dealing with the trial and regardless of their success rate it is not for lack of trying on their part.
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Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:09:00 -
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OK, sorry to resurrect a 2 week old thread, but I'm having issues with the recommendations from this thread.
As suggested I've got rid of uTorrent and switched to BitSpirit, but it doesn't seem to work very well. It seems to run OK on any given torrent for a few hours and then everything grinds to a halt with no downloading going on at all. I still upload at a healthy rate, but nothing comes my way.
I've set the up/down limits to the same amounts as I was using with uTorrent (which I had no problems with at all) but it just seems.. well.... crap.
So, any suggestions as to which settings to twiddle with or any other good, non-RIAA-owned and non-dodgy clients (i.e. no BitLord, BitComet or any of that ilk)?
Thanks! :)
Originally by: Victor Valka
What the skull-chick said.
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Betty Crooks
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Posted - 2007.11.09 00:34:00 -
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I apologize as well for assisting in the necro of this thread.
I usually use utorrent for my torrents but am paranoid of RIAA as well. However one thing that is peculiar to me is that many P2P clients now handle torrents.
Specifically Limewire seems to be able to handle torrents and am just trying it out for the first time. For downloading something simple like WinRAR it was very fast at 150kB/s, which is fast for me as my ISP throttles bittorrent and blocks encrypted information (so encrypted information is useless - my ISP is Rogers Canada btw).
I am testing it out with something larger and am going to see how the speeds go. My question to any that have tried P2P applications for torrents:
- have they performed as well as clients like utorrent in your experience?
- is Limewire any more risky to use than Utorrent (are they affiliated with the MPAA or similar too?).
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Jevus
Kanagawa Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:08:00 -
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Newsleecher/Newsdemon owns torrents! I download stuff at 13mb p/s.
Pay something like ú8 a month for connection to 20 servers for all my downloading needs. Believe me its worth it!
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Seroquel
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:48:00 -
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i like ktorrent
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Jack Thurner
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:01:00 -
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uTorrent through proxy and peerguardian (No idea if PG is any good, but its blocking arseloads of orgs.)
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Xurx
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.09 11:09:00 -
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Use The latest Azureus Vuze, there is an option to put it back in "non-vuze" mode.
And of course Peerguardian 2 (for Vista users there is an alpha laying around, that works just fine, with occasionally a random crash )
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