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Reto
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Posted - 2007.10.18 11:49:00 -
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lol.... ccp give it a unspilt weapon system FFS !
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Reto
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Reto lol.... ccp give it a unspilt weapon system FFS !
It could be snowball launcher -only for all I care.
3 mids. Speed. Win.
3 mids = mwd web scram tackling in webrange = UR DEAD GTFO !
and another thing son. i can do the same tackling + speed stuff with a vigil and i can do it better for a much lower price. there is no friggin point using an ares just because it got its 3rd mid. theres no point at all using a 6mil ship which WILL get killed for tackling. use a 200k throw away frig and ur jobs done aswell. i still hope that the ares will get some dps out of the changes as i do not believe that an TII frig is supposed to deal 30dps. ccp dont let the god of war deal sissy girl dps on the battlefield damit! give it at least an unsplit weapon system.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Reto
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Posted - 2007.10.19 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Reto on 19/10/2007 00:17:15 Edited by: Reto on 19/10/2007 00:09:56 Edited by: Reto on 19/10/2007 00:05:56
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Reto
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Reto lol.... ccp give it a unspilt weapon system FFS !
It could be snowball launcher -only for all I care.
3 mids. Speed. Win.
3 mids = mwd web scram tackling in webrange = UR DEAD GTFO !
and another thing son. i can do the same tackling + speed stuff with a vigil and i can do it better for a much lower price. there is no friggin point using an ares just because it got its 3rd mid. theres no point at all using a 6mil ship which WILL get killed for tackling. use a 200k throw away frig and ur jobs done aswell. i still hope that the ares will get some dps out of the changes as i do not believe that an TII frig is supposed to deal 30dps. ccp dont let the god of war deal sissy girl dps on the battlefield damit! give it at least an unsplit weapon system.
Last time i didnt pack a web on my ceptor we lost a target that sped to the gate due to the no webbage,yes i got yelled at.
last time i used a web i lost my vigil in 4 seconds getting webbed myself and receiving a full volley of antimatter goodness. we didnt loose the target since we got backup diruptors on it and we didnt hunt enemies at gates but rather in belts and safespots. so ur point is that u agressed a target at a gate giving it a imense tactical advantage by not considering the 30 seconds aggression cooldown for gate jumping...
point is that an interceptor not suited for closerange combat but longrange combat like say the crow (lower overall HP, higher base and mwd speed and 2 misslehardpoints as nontracking dependant weapon sys) gets his dmg cut and recieving a medslot for packing a web or whatever. well if i wanted to risk my ship i wouldnt take a TII one for the task and if i would take a TII ship i would take the taranis as it deals crazy dps and can withstand twice the punishment the ares can, given its base overall hp. ccp changed the ares indeed in some sort of caldari raptor with less dps but one more lowslot. i cannot utilize another tripple med interceptor in the gallente line as it isnt different from the taranis except its lack of dps and hp making it by far worse than it is atm.
also the new disruptorrange and cap consumption bonuses on sisi would benefit the ares using a disruptor instead of the closerange web/scram combo. imo the new changes would thin out the gallente ceptor poissibilities and further nerf the ares ability to fend of smaller targets from afar. imo they should make the ares either a fully rail based ship allowing it to deal up to 60 dps or give it a 3 missle slot making it similar to the crow. as it is atm (on sisi) it isnt suiting any role but a utterly low dps suicide TII frig which imo doesnt make any sense.
i hope my opinion on that matter is now better undestandable for u.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Reto
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Posted - 2007.10.21 13:03:00 -
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my major concern is the weapon sys on the ares. it deals too low dps with the 2 rail 1 missle layout. all i want is either 3 bonused guns or misslelaunchers. i want it to stay a longrange ship with the ability to deal ok dps. nothing less nothing more.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Reto
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Posted - 2007.10.25 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shevar Edited by: Shevar on 21/10/2007 13:26:35
Originally by: Reto
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Reto lol.... ccp give it a unspilt weapon system FFS !
It could be snowball launcher -only for all I care.
3 mids. Speed. Win.
3 mids = mwd web scram tackling in webrange = UR DEAD GTFO !
and another thing son. i can do the same tackling + speed stuff with a vigil and i can do it better for a much lower price. there is no friggin point using an ares just because it got its 3rd mid. theres no point at all using a 6mil ship which WILL get killed for tackling. use a 200k throw away frig and ur jobs done aswell. i still hope that the ares will get some dps out of the changes as i do not believe that an TII frig is supposed to deal 30dps. ccp dont let the god of war deal sissy girl dps on the battlefield damit! give it at least an unsplit weapon system.
Instead of the web you can also fit for example a sensor booster, a damp or if you want to be really unconventional a TP (that is what the fourth mid slot on the stilleto is generally used for).
If you want DPS at 15+ km in a tackling frig then go train caldari and fly a crow.
But really since these aren't solo ships 100 DPS won't matter, a battlecruiser dishes out like 600. So you won't make a significant impact other then keeping the ship in place.
Quote: i want it to stay a longrange ship with the ability to deal ok dps. nothing less nothing more.
Uhuh, and the malediction, stilletto or raptor are capable of this?
son u have no clue of the ceptors u have listed. and 100dps do matter. even 50 dps matter if used wiseley. the ares as it is now is better than the ares on the testserver.
furthermore the disruptor bonus currently on sisi alone would make the ares capable fulfilling its longrange tackler job better than before. it doesnt need a 3rd med for ew or anything else for it. but since ccp may change the ares into a low dps 3 med ship i vouching for at least a unsplit weapon system in order not to loose too much dps. i regard interceptors not just as tacklers (tackling is a job i can do as good in a tI frig) but exciting ships for dogfights and gangwarfare giving me more options than just disrupting the enemy.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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