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Red Sharp	Posted - 2007.10.18 04:18:00 - [1] Edited by: Red Sharp on 18/10/2007 04:18:39 Gang of 3-4 hacks and probliy a command ship mostly amarr/gal Was thinking this might be a good setup for gang pvp Hi-slots Heavy Ion Blaster II Void or anti Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Mid-slots 10MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Low-Slots Medium Armour Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Reactive Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizers II Magnetic Field Stabilizers II 200mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I Well i was thinking of having this as a heavy tackle and be able to last a long time but I'm not sure if it will work as a setup, any ideas? cheers sharp
jbob2000 Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.18 04:54:00 - [2] You need an MWD. And drop a nos for another gun. ________________________________
Red Sharp	Posted - 2007.10.18 04:59:00 - [3] Won't i have cap problems if i drop the 2nd nos? but speed is better
jbob2000 Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.18 05:03:00 - [4] True. You could try cap recharger rigs. Or drop the rep for plates. ________________________________
Galactic Magi	Posted - 2007.10.18 07:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Red Sharp Edited by: Red Sharp on 18/10/2007 04:18:39 Gang of 3-4 hacks and probliy a command ship mostly amarr/gal Was thinking this might be a good setup for gang pvp Hi-slots Heavy Ion Blaster II Void or anti Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Mid-slots 10MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Low-Slots Medium Armour Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Reactive Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizers II Magnetic Field Stabilizers II 200mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I Well i was thinking of having this as a heavy tackle and be able to last a long time but I'm not sure if it will work as a setup, any ideas? cheers sharp Your setup doesnt make any sense. Deimos is a good damage dealer so thats what it should be fitted for. You want to use it as heavy tackle, well, then fit for tank and tackle. You have 2 Mag stab in low that is used for gank setups, and then u waste the setup by using 4 guns instead of 5. You wont be tanking much with that 200 plate either. Go with 5 electrons, nwd and a 800 plate. It will do decent damamge and barely ok tank.
XrayZ Euphoria Foundation	Posted - 2007.10.18 09:22:00 - [6] 5 heavy neutron II (med guns) y-t8 mwd t2 scram x5 webber MAR II explo II EANM II DCU II 2x Magstab II PG Rig explo Rig have fun :) -------------------------------------- <3 Godlesswanderer } eve-gfx team.
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.18 10:17:00 - [7] Makes no sense when you fit 2 x magstabs and 2 x nos. training skills... :(
Dreadmuppet Four	Posted - 2007.10.18 11:03:00 - [8] ECM drones are your freinds
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.18 11:28:00 - [9] Make sure to have a remote repper guy in your gang, or you're gonna die fast. Anyways, this setup should give you plenty of buffer and lots of gank, the two most important things for a Deimos. 3x magstab II 2x RCU II 1,600mm RT plate Named MWD Warp Scrambler II (2 pt. 9km) Stasis Web II 5x Heavy Neutron Blaster II Small energy neut 5x medium drones of choice (I'd go ECM) 2x trimarks. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Miss KillSome Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.10.18 12:05:00 - [10] Edited by: Miss KillSome on 18/10/2007 12:15:44 maybe this if u are not going to 0.0.. Linkage not really throw-away ship, but very effective. Speed, dmg and alot of tankage. If u are in gang of other HACs and CSs, then u should probably melt opponent pretty quickly. I tanked 2x blasterthrons long enough to kill third brutix and warp away..
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.18 12:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Miss KillSome Edited by: Miss KillSome on 18/10/2007 12:15:44 I tanked 2x blasterthrons long enough to kill third brutix and warp away.. They had cap rechargers on or something ?
Redora Gallente Universal Exports	Posted - 2007.10.18 12:42:00 - [12] span style= font-size:7pt i Edited by: Redora on 18/10/2007 12:45:15 /i /span br BLOCKQUOTE font class=quote size=9px face= Verdana img src= /images/icon_quote_message.gif border= 0 b Originally by: /b i Acoco Osiris /i hr height=1 noshade Make sure to have a remote repper guy in your gang, or you re gonna die fast. Anyways, this setup should give you plenty of buffer and lots of gank, the two most important things for a Deimos. br br 3x magstab II br 2x RCU II br 1,600mm RT plate br Named MWD br Warp Scrambler II 2 pt. 9km br Stasis Web II br 5x Heavy Neutron Blaster II br Small energy neut br 5x medium drones of choice I d go ECM br 2x trimarks. hr height=1 noshade /font /BLOCKQUOTE br br This fit intrigues me... Won t the 1600 and the Trimarks slow you down quite a bit though? I always thought the Deimos was slow enough anyway. I may have to give this a go. br br BLOCKQUOTE font class=quote size=9px face= Verdana img src= /images/icon_quote_message.gif border= 0 b Originally by: /b i Miss KillSome /i hr height=1 noshade span style= font-size:7pt i Edited by: Miss KillSome on 18/10/2007 12:15:44 /i /span br maybe this if u are not going to 0.0.. br br a href= http://www.imagebam.com/image/8f4a31480142/ target= _blank http://www.imagebam.com/image/8f4a31480142/ /a Linkage not really throw-away ship, but very effective. Speed, dmg and alot of tankage. If u are in gang of other HACs and CSs, then u should probably melt opponent pretty quickly. I tanked 2x blasterthrons long enough to kill third brutix and warp away.. For this... My Deimos has nearly 2x as much Effective HP (30k against a uniform damage distribution) and does the same DPS. Fit is: 5x Neutron II's (Void or Fed Navy Antimatter) 1x Small Nos 1x Named MWD (lack pg for T2) 1x Fleeting Webby 1x T2 Scram (9km range, could fit T2 Disruptor but... eh) 1x Mar II 1x DCU II 1x Exp Hard II/EANM II (to taste, I like to fill my resist hole 1x 800mm RT plate 2x Shadow Serp Mag Stabs 2x ACR rigs 5x Valk II's I"ve got "Meh" skills (Med Blaster Spec 3, Minnie Drone Spec 2, HAC 4, Surgical Strike 3, etc), and I run from Bthrons. The ones you tanked must have had Electrons and a 7 slot tank for you to hold them off, as I can tank 161 DPS for a limited time (about 2 minutes) before I run outta cap (this is against a 50/50 split of damage on kin/therm, which also yields me nearly 40k Effective Hit Points). --- Redora http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=543553
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.10.18 12:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Miss KillSome Edited by: Miss KillSome on 18/10/2007 12:15:44 maybe this if u are not going to 0.0.. Linkage not really throw-away ship, but very effective. Speed, dmg and alot of tankage. If u are in gang of other HACs and CSs, then u should probably melt opponent pretty quickly. I tanked 2x blasterthrons long enough to kill third brutix and warp away.. You can't sugest faction gear of such price even at such prices picking an X5 over a Fleeting is wrong. Nor can you quote tanking 2 blasterthrons and a brutix, blasters are pvp, pvp ships have scramblers thierfore somthings not right here, from speculation I would say, the megaT's were mining/blaster fit, and all 3 were gnoobs that you cought in a belt of a 0.4
Redora Gallente Universal Exports	Posted - 2007.10.18 12:47:00 - [14] Edited by: Redora on 18/10/2007 12:47:56 Edited by: Redora on 18/10/2007 12:47:21 Post reposted from above, as Eve-O forums set it all ahoo... o.O Quote: Make sure to have a remote repper guy in your gang, or you're gonna die fast. Anyways, this setup should give you plenty of buffer and lots of gank, the two most important things for a Deimos. 3x magstab II 2x RCU II 1,600mm RT plate Named MWD Warp Scrambler II (2 pt. 9km) Stasis Web II 5x Heavy Neutron Blaster II Small energy neut 5x medium drones of choice (I'd go ECM) 2x trimarks. This fit intrigues me... Won't the 1600 and the Trimarks slow you down quite a bit though? I always thought the Deimos was slow enough anyway. I may have to give this a go. Originally by: Miss KillSome Edited by: Miss KillSome on 18/10/2007 12:15:44 maybe this if u are not going to 0.0.. Linkage not really throw-away ship, but very effective. Speed, dmg and alot of tankage. If u are in gang of other HACs and CSs, then u should probably melt opponent pretty quickly. I tanked 2x blasterthrons long enough to kill third brutix and warp away.. For this... My Deimos has nearly 2x as much Effective HP (30k against a uniform damage distribution) and does the same DPS. Fit is: 5x Neutron II's (Void or Fed Navy Antimatter) 1x Small Nos 1x Named MWD (lack pg for T2) 1x Fleeting Webby 1x T2 Scram (9km range, could fit T2 Disruptor but... eh) 1x Mar II 1x DCU II 1x Exp Hard II/EANM II (to taste, I like to fill my resist hole 1x 800mm RT plate 2x Shadow Serp Mag Stabs 2x ACR rigs 5x Valk II's I"ve got "Meh" skills (Med Blaster Spec 3, Minnie Drone Spec 2, HAC 4, Surgical Strike 3, etc), and I run from Bthrons. The ones you tanked must have had Electrons and a 7 slot tank for you to hold them off, as I can tank 161 DPS for a limited time (about 2 minutes) before I run outta cap (this is against a 50/50 split of damage on kin/therm, which also yields me nearly 40k Effective Hit Points). --- Redora http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=543553
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.18 21:50:00 - [15] According to EFT and L5 skills, it still gets 210 m/s, 1.3 km/sec with MWD. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.18 23:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Acoco Osiris According to EFT and L5 skills, it still gets 210 m/s, 1.3 km/sec with MWD. The main thing with mass increases is, a Brutix may do more DPS than a Deimos, will certainly tank more, Astarte is out of the question and doesn't take that many skills to fly at the same level. However, the advantage of flying a Deimos is that it is more maneuverable, aligns faster, etc., plates (and maybe trimarks, haven't checked) completely nullify this advantage to orbit and align faster and better, making you a sitting duck. so the velocity decrease isn't the main thing here. Plates make you a lumber piece of metal with a BS sized sig when MWDing, tbh. training skills... :(
Red Sharp	Posted - 2007.10.19 00:25:00 - [17] Well thanks guys a lot to think on. One thing what rigs do you think is worth sticking on this ship?
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.19 00:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Kuzya Morozov Originally by: Acoco Osiris According to EFT and L5 skills, it still gets 210 m/s, 1.3 km/sec with MWD. The main thing with mass increases is, a Brutix may do more DPS than a Deimos, will certainly tank more, Astarte is out of the question and doesn't take that many skills to fly at the same level. However, the advantage of flying a Deimos is that it is more maneuverable, aligns faster, etc., plates (and maybe trimarks, haven't checked) completely nullify this advantage to orbit and align faster and better, making you a sitting duck. so the velocity decrease isn't the main thing here. Plates make you a lumber piece of metal with a BS sized sig when MWDing, tbh. This gives me a couple things to think about. Oh, and trimarks reduce speed, not increase mass. As for rigs ANPs-increase rep amount Nanobot acclerators-reduce rep cycle time Trimark-more armor amount ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
ZigZag Joe The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.10.19 01:34:00 - [19] Edited by: ZigZag Joe on 19/10/2007 01:34:01 Heavy Neutron Blaster II[Void] x5 Small Nos 10MN MWD II Webber Warp Disruptor II SAR II 800mm RT Explosive Hardener II DCU II MFS II x2 Ancillary Current Router I Capacitor Control Circuit I 5x Valkyrie II Req AWU lvl 4 came up with this after extensive testing with a friend; our conclusion was that Deimos can't tank why bother mucking with ions and electrons; lets melt them quick before we have to tank. You could toss in ECM drones if you were suicdal and wanted to try to solo I suppose....does some very fearsome dps and a goodly HP buffer (5k armour and 3k structure with 60% resists or better; 30k effective hp)
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.19 02:45:00 - [20] I'd stick an anti-exp and anti-therm rigs on it, fills out the resists quite nicely. training skills... :(

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