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steelfist alderon
Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.01.24 21:49:00 -
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I know the old system of names was slightly confusing...
But I WANT THEM BACK
How could drakes live without their beloved scourge missiles, and how will Phoenixs/Nags do without their god Thor... Even tho Trauma is quite nice it's not conveying the differences if were just all throwing the same ammo around.
Making things better is one thing.... but EVE isnt supposed to be idiot proof... were supposed to get rid of the idiots... or at least let them get ganked in their expensive ships...
Please bring back the proper names so we can not have boring missiles like other ammos...
I will always feel bad throwing Mjolnir into anything other than a bomber...
Besides... shouldnt Kinetic have been Mjolnir since it's the name for Thor's Hammer... Nova just sounds bad too...
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
268
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Posted - 2012.01.24 22:00:00 -
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steelfist alderon wrote:I know the old system of names was slightly confusing...
But I WANT THEM BACK
How could drakes live without their beloved scourge missiles, and how will Phoenixs/Nags do without their god Thor... Even tho Trauma is quite nice it's not conveying the differences if were just all throwing the same ammo around.
Making things better is one thing.... but EVE isnt supposed to be idiot proof... were supposed to get rid of the idiots... or at least let them get ganked in their expensive ships...
Please bring back the proper names so we can not have boring missiles like other ammos...
I will always feel bad throwing Mjolnir into anything other than a bomber...
Besides... shouldnt Kinetic have been Mjolnir since it's the name for Thor's Hammer... Nova just sounds bad too...
So the whole basis of your proposal is because you don't like the names.
Got it.
Not supportnig. |

steelfist alderon
Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2012.01.24 22:07:00 -
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You expected some other argument for the reversal of the change of a name?
these names became iconic with their uses and ships with those of us who are older players... No real reason to change them in the first place |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
978
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Posted - 2012.01.24 22:15:00 -
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I agree. There wasn't much of a reason to change the names in the first place. However...the change is done. Might as well just move on with it instead of reverting them back and wasting even more time just to do that. In the future though...I would say CCP should evaluate whether such a minor change is REALLY needed.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Wolodymyr
Mando'a Navy Controlled Chaos
26
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Posted - 2012.01.25 06:34:00 -
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steelfist alderon wrote:But I WANT THEM BACK Some people are never satisfied. |

Mark Hadden
Joint Endeavor RED.OverLord
1
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Posted - 2012.01.25 09:29:00 -
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I want too old names back!
If I wanted missiles for my ship I am currently flying, I only needed to type that specific name in the search, now they all have the same name which is not only confusing, but even very cheap!!
Eve should not be optimized for idiots or noobs who cant remember the missile name he needs, if you fly a ship you learn those munition names after few days of usage.
A lot of individuality is lost with the new terrible naming, I used to fly a bomber a lot in the past so Mjolnirs were torpedoes for the amarr bomber, I associate only them to this name and I'm very attached to that old name - now they all are mjolnirs, even if the name doesnt fit at all. The same goes for fhe naming for other items like AB/MWD!!!
CCP, Give us old names back FFS! Dont dumb eve down for idiots! |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
531
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:27:00 -
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Not only missles but all of them that were changed in the 1.1 patch. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
979
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Posted - 2012.01.25 20:01:00 -
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Meh...after looking them over it frankly doesn't bother me either way. New missile names although simplified across all sizes works fine. Old system worked fine too. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Tidurious
The Dirty Rejects Scelus Sceleris.
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Posted - 2012.01.26 00:23:00 -
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It's just a name, deal with it. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2012.01.26 11:23:00 -
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Tidurious wrote:It's just a name, deal with it.
if its just a name, they could give us the old ones...
and no, TRAUMA is not just a name its a pain in the brain! |

Xerophthalmia
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.01.26 12:15:00 -
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steelfist alderon wrote: Besides... shouldnt Kinetic have been Mjolnir since it's the name for Thor's Hammer...
No, Thor is the god of thunder, hence EM damage. |

Borg Stoneson
SWARTA Mostly Clueless
19
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Posted - 2012.01.26 13:41:00 -
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I miss my Scourge Fury's, Free the Scourge! |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
983
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Posted - 2012.01.26 13:59:00 -
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Borg Stoneson wrote:I miss my Scourge Fury's, Free the Scourge! See? I had completely forgotten what they were called before the change until you said that. Now I can't even remember what they are called now...
That's how much the name of our missiles matter to me...lol EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Triana
Bulls On Parade
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Posted - 2012.01.26 18:51:00 -
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Improvise, Adapt, Dominate Change is made, deal with it. |

Paintchk
Legio Invicta Many Reckless Corps
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Posted - 2012.01.27 13:30:00 -
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No. -.- |

Lady Starfire
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:02:00 -
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NEW MISSILE NAMES EASIER TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ARM AND ONE HAND TO COUNT ON IT HELPS TO HAVE FOUR NAMES TO REMEMBER FOR DAMAGE TYPES! STOP BEING A WHINY TWO ARM! DOWN WITH THE TWO ARM MENACE! |

Ahsekuaw
Brother Theo's Monastery The Ancients.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:53:00 -
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This is the kind of crap that is driving players out. Ordinance has different names for a reason. It differentiates between class and damage. Assigning similar names is just moronic. Change the names back. 
Ahs
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Lady Starfire
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.29 08:10:00 -
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Ahsekuaw wrote:This is the kind of crap that is driving players out. Ordinance has different names for a reason. It differentiates between class and damage. Assigning similar names is just moronic. Change the names back.  Ahs DERP DE DERP THE NEW NAMES ALL SHARE A NAME FOR A DAMAGE TYPE FOR ALL CLASSES IT MAKES IT EASY AND GREAT. OLD NAMES WERE TARDHARDED AND WHILE THE NEW NAMES COULD USE SOME WORK USING A NAME FOR THE TYPE OF DAMAGE ROCKS. NOW IF YOU HAVE TECH TWO MISSILES YOU KNOW RAGE IS SHORT RANGE JAVELIN IS LONG RANGE AND TRAUMA IS KINETIC DAMAGE. |

Ahsekuaw
Brother Theo's Monastery The Ancients.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.29 17:39:00 -
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Lady Starfire wrote:Ahsekuaw wrote:This is the kind of crap that is driving players out. Ordinance has different names for a reason. It differentiates between class and damage. Assigning similar names is just moronic. Change the names back.  Ahs DERP DE DERP THE NEW NAMES ALL SHARE A NAME FOR A DAMAGE TYPE FOR ALL CLASSES IT MAKES IT EASY AND GREAT. OLD NAMES WERE TARDHARDED AND WHILE THE NEW NAMES COULD USE SOME WORK USING A NAME FOR THE TYPE OF DAMAGE ROCKS. NOW IF YOU HAVE TECH TWO MISSILES YOU KNOW RAGE IS SHORT RANGE JAVELIN IS LONG RANGE AND TRAUMA IS KINETIC DAMAGE.
Awww... You have to have your caps lock on to get your point across. Are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet too?
There are gameplay functions within the game that need to be addressed. Renaming the missiles was really low on the priority list and not necessary. I've been playing for 8 years and never had a problem with it.
Now go to your room young man. You're on time out....
Ahs |

Anane
Brother Theo's Monastery The Ancients.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.29 18:33:00 -
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Also what is nice about the old names for example is if someone says Scourge, you know exactly the size of missile they are talking about. It makes it much easier to differentiate the different classes of missiles from one another. |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
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Posted - 2012.01.31 15:21:00 -
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I can't help feeling that something of what makes the EVE universe a rich and interesting place has been lost by the streamlined naming convention.
They should as least add the original label string to the item description, if they are not doing so already.
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Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.01.31 15:47:00 -
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scourge does have a better ring to it then trauma, what is this doctors online?
Having the same name for damage type makes things simpler, consistent. But that name should be cool, heavy missiles being the most commonly used with the popular scourge, scourge should be the name of kinetic. |

Satchu Phaidon
After Hours Inc
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Posted - 2012.02.04 14:09:00 -
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I whole-heartedly agree. I mostly miss the sheer diversity of such interesting names. Take 'Gremlin' and 'Thorn' then compare those to 'Cataclysm' and 'Devastator'. The bigger missiles always sounded so powerful, and now that element has gone.
This change was unnecessary - CCP could surely have simply added a damage type suffix, if they wanted to simplify things. |

Tracy Panavia
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.10 18:07:00 -
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Bumping.
The trolls here have not formed a decent argument as to why the name change doesn't matter. It does.
Yous are all just trolling 
The older names were pure win, not least because they gave Eve online a certain flavour that the current names are not capable of emulating. I for one will always associate the 'Paradise' class missile with the better days of Eve gone by. IMO CCP need help understanding just what is ********, and what isn't. |

Tracy Panavia
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.10 18:08:00 -
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zomg I can't even say r3t4rd3d anymore?  |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:44:00 -
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Tracy Panavia wrote:zomg I can't even say r3t4rd3d anymore?  Yes...people get offended by the word because they are ignorant to it's meaning. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Agustice Arterius
Couch Athletics
0
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:30:00 -
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Well the new system is just fine, I really enjoyed the old system, having each missile type with its own name just added some fluff, something I sorta enjoyed
However, when ever I have to type Mjolnir to find my EM missiles, I get little mad |

Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
127
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Posted - 2012.02.11 09:45:00 -
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Is there any other type of missile except Scourge....ummm...I mean Trauma? 
It's just a name and no real hassle to remember after awhile.
I am sure CCP have better things to fix than missile names.
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Tracy Panavia
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.11 10:19:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Tracy Panavia wrote:zomg I can't even say r3t4rd3d anymore?  Yes...people get offended by the word because they are ignorant to it's meaning.
Yes this is true, because many people do not know the word can also be used to describe a decelerating motion or a slowing energy force (retardation) which is where ******** derives. |

Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.02.11 10:44:00 -
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I want my scourge back
I personally think this falls in same category with removal of ship hangar. |

Ab'Synth
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.28 05:13:00 -
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not supported. i like the new names |

Blastfizzle
Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation ROMANIAN-LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.02.28 08:27:00 -
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New names are better. |

Benteen
Drone A.I. Servicing Inc.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.20 22:08:00 -
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I want old names back... they added some coolness AND made life easier to tell someone what you wanted...
I could ask someone to find some "Bloodclaws" for me and they'd buy Kinetic light missiles...
Now I have to ask them for some "Trauma light missiles"... longer to type in and they might buy the wrong missile due to them all being Trauma missiles. I mean really... couldn't they just have added EM light Missile to the "Bloodclaw" name? Or just "Bloodclaw" light EM... we know it's a missile anyway, so the word missile in the name is kinda redundant.
Actually while i'm on a rant... Why did F.O.F's get to keep their names? |

Xenophon Zateki
Vetrox Technologies
5
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Posted - 2012.03.21 03:56:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote: I am sure CCP have better things to fix than missile names.
Then why did they change them in the first place?
The old names were effective and people are used to them. There is really no reason to change the names. And do you really think a newb uses the market search feature to find missiles? More than likely they will look in the browse feature to find missiles, and just find the properly colored one. |

Tina Mori
Maniacal Miners INC Cosmic Maniacs
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:21:00 -
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Bring back the Juggernaut Torpedo, the old names were so much better |

Aramis Rosicrux
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:37:00 -
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I have been playing since 2004, and I was very comfortable with the old names. I was attracted to Eve because it was mind-numbingly complex. In 2004, playing Eve was like being invited to speak at a Mensa meeting, you knew you were the best of the best and you played THE elite game that others ran screaming from.
So yes, I miss the old names, and I shudder to think of the lesser classes getting into Eve. Dumbing-down Eve is a loss to every player who struggled, and succeeded at playing the best game in the world.
Now, any dumbass can pick it up in a few months! And no more learning skills? No more six-months of struggling to gain access to a ship worthy of a level four mission? 
I still do not think there is any better game in the world than Eve, but the gap has been narrowed. Instead of being head and shoulders above the second-best game in the world, Eve is now but a few hairs best. How long will it be before Eve is passe?
Still playing, after all these years... 
Aramis Rosicrux |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
75
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:04:00 -
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Changing unique names into generic descriptions is NOT OK
It's not more discernible either since it's messy and too similar.
/me wants names back! http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
75
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:06:00 -
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Anane wrote:Also what is nice about the old names for example is if someone says Scourge, you know exactly the size of missile they are talking about. It makes it much easier to differentiate the different classes of missiles from one another.
QFT http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
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