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Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 09:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 09:47:13 I think that since gates and stations are the two most frequently traveled routes in Eve that all bookmarks should be disabled within 60km of them(or far enoughw here we cant put a bookmark on other side and effectively warp within 1-15km of a gate or station). This will get rid of "insta" jumping and docking. I also think that we should be priveleaged with ading a custom warp distance. Like say I wanted to warp in at 100km . With MWD and such it is possible to even go 1000km in a relatively short time. So warping in at 1000km is not entirely ridiculous. Give us more free reign to warp where we want but never closer then 15km. This will make defending stations and gates more easier for the defender as it should be. I think my first idea is pretty common sense and is not hard to do since every system has a coordinate system. All CCP has to do is say if bookmark in this area then do not allow bookmark to be created. And make sure you make it unexploitable and everyone is happy except the n00bs. I enjoy tactics and wroking hard to accomplish something. I do not enjoy this handed to me on a silver platter. I have read alot of stuff about this and some of the more ridiculous ideas are rotating gates in a circle and all this crap. Just disable the bookmarks in a radius around anywhere you dont want people exploiting them(gates and stations). Asteroid belts should be left as they are since you cant dock or jump you can only "warp" out of them.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:33:00 - [2] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 10:53:14 Well anyways I think instadocking and instajumping is LAME. It is viable for slow haulers and the like trying to dock or maybe jump fast. But it is too eaisly exploited in times of war. What fun is it declaring war on some n00b corp and then theres no way to attack them ebcuase they are instadocking or instajumping? And the same? What stops me from just taunting corps with war and warping all over the place laughing? If they have the forces enought o sit at a gate and im n0b enought o be outnumebred or outgunned I deserved to be killed. I dont deserve to be able to play warp tag or jump tag all day and night in empire space. I think its a joke and bad planning. I almost expected to see a "Cannot create bookmark at this location" when i used to mine in beta and instadock my haulers and stuff. I neevr really put in a post or bug report becuase i stopped playing(life got too busy). I am enjoying myself but I would liek this game to have some degree of difficulty and not totally be insulting to my intelligence, skillwise. Sure there is still alot of hard things to accomplish. But with all of these loopholes around things it makes it for a pretty sucky roadtrip. How can i defeat the greedy alliances that call themselves fountain or curse or stain or whatever? Undoubtably all their miners are happily insta warping and docking to kingdom come. How can i ambush someone who if smart and take just their first trip out making bookmarks, UNAMBUSHABLE. How can i declare war on the piratical and evil empires that are the alliances? How can I be assured I am not granted invulnerability in my own defense. Its all BORING to me. GET RID OF THE INSTADOCING AND INSTA JUMPING. 15km with afterburners or mwd is damn close enough and leaves little to no room of error for any would be attacker. Sticky this. Send it out in evemails. Read it. Understand it. Respect it. Eve is flawed when there is talent enough where it shouldnt be. Anyone who posts otherwise is a troller and griefer and I will petition.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:55:00 - [3] mcwatt can i ask you what in the heck you just said? Yet another thread to blame my race for our ineptitude and drug use. Sleep it off man.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:19:00 - [4] Quote: not again, please!!! no, it doesn t take LOTS of risk/time to make them. yes, they ruin blockades. yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage. no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...) sigh. "OK not again please." I gathered you are talking about a new thread on instawarp(dock) n00bs. "yes, they ruin blockades." Ok thinking your talking about the n00bs who use instajumping and instadocking to avoid any and ALL enemies making anyone invulnerable to attack. Can we say LAME? We agree. "yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage." Ok yes we dont need people being god in EVE who CANNOT be killed as they pass from a station to a gate or any variation between the two. "no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...)" This is where I think your delusional. 1) warp disruptors are NOT expensive. You get them for FREE if you take the time to do agent missions. You build them with minerals you can buy or get for FREE. They are expensive to you becuase you are most liekly a n00b who will dish out 100mill to buy them from some unfaithful corp ganking you for your isk. 2? Battle lag. Hmmm. I dont know about you but how is warp disruptors going to make any more lag then say a station or a gate in the first place? It wont. Lets just take out sentry guns and gates so we can have less lag. Give me a break. If your on a dialup connection expect there to be lag in a 3d persistant mmorpg that is Eve. Especially in any twitch PVP situation. NO im not waiting 300ms for your n00b self to resynch with my latest move. Blow up or quit. I dunno I just see alot of people on these forums with 0 common sense or moral.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:32:00 - [5] Quote: I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. I for one don't and never will use them. Don't get me wrong I have thought about it when I crawl at 250m/s for 10 jumps to drop a tanker load of minerals. The time only inspires me to make use of it some way, maybe I contact an old aquantance I haven't convo'd for a Month or I randomly convo someone for a friendly chat. I can even work on keeping the corp supplied with my unique brand of humour(why do they never laugh?). I would also miss the risk of jumping in low sec. space. Yes some may ask but why put yourself in danger, well without the feeling of risk I would never appreciate what I have got. We all have our view on what we gain and what we lose form using and not using them. In the end only the individual can decide on which path to take. Can we say KOS? BAN! MURDER ! PLUNDER! Im just going to assume you dont speak english and you dont know the nonsense you just said. So wait. We are paying 12.99$ to just do what we want and all watch each other do it? So I cant kill smacktalking n00b in local becuase he is insta jumping and dokcing from system to system? You sir are a carebear n00b. I will seriosuly quit just for the sole fact that this isnt a lets play god simulator. If this is going ot be a skilless joke im out. Im just gonna declare war and warp and jump circles around you. Not very fun and kind of a waste of my time to even declare war in first place. And what is wrong with 15km? If you cant get 5-10km to a gate then you shouldnt be warping to that gate in the first place. Why even have a skill system? If eveerything is going to be handed to us on a silver platter. If your going to grant me invulnerability to attack then why notmake me level 5 in everything and lets call this god simulator 1.0... When I think of Eve I thought of a game that required skill and charisma and dedication to make it in the world. Now I see a feminine avatar creation contest with spaceships. Down with carebears. Down with stupid people(we have their address and credit card numbers, lets do something about it.). Im up for a good old fashioned crusade, picket, massmurder. Whatever it takes to make Eve the best it should be. In fact I shoudlnt even be typing this they should already have the common sense to fix these design flaws.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:48:00 - [6] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 11:49:52 mc**** so now your saying that CCP has to pay us for playing the game since our labor and time put into game is worth something? This is a GAME <---- G A M E You do agent mission you get blueprint. You mine you get minerals. You do agent mission and you collect tech 2 components. TOTAL COST = 0 <------------- Or you do none of that. And you get ganked by all of the unmoral thiefing corps that eve consists of. If you want a warp disruptor or some uber guns you go out and find them(its what makes the game the game). You understand that for ever isk you buy something with, that isk is then being turned around and used against you. I myself will never buy anything from anybody. I dont know many people and I would just be funding there escapades. If I cant get it myself then I prolly shouldnt have it. Since Eve does not have hourly ISK wages for every hour you play you have no justification in saying your time in eve is worth anything more then 0isk. Pychian Vanervi: I was referring to your carebear obcenities and overall n00bness.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:07:00 - [7] Morfhman: This is easy. You start the game with a newb ship in a corporation. You do agent missions in protected space or you mine minerals in protected space. Since you cannot have war declared on you in a newbie corporation or any empire corporation you cannot be attacked anywhere in .5 or above. The second you decide you want to be independant or join another group of independants you now open yourself to the world that is Eve. The one advertised on the box when you bought it. People can declare war on you. You are not only obligated but you are required to be able to defend yourself or risk elimination. If for whatever reason you wisht o avoid this altogether then stay in a empire sponsored corporation such as the one you started the game in. Advantages: You get to do what you want like this. You can avoid war altogether. Or you can become independant and actually fight in one. You can die and you can kill. You can do everything. Disadvantages: None Silverlancer: Why dont you get on your girl character and pretend to be a fem. Scouting and risking ones life IS EASY and no risk is involved becuase your claoked when you jump in and you can either jump back where you came from or if coast is clear create a instajump from the next gate your going to. Then you warp to next gate and if theres trouble you warpback and instajump. Not much risk there. Since carebears are n00bs lets BAN carebears. Unnamed 0.0 are there as the challenege to the game. Cant really be ganked in any named 0.0 systems if your flying a big ship. They just cant get clsoe becuase of sentries and any damage they do in your short 10km trip to the jumppoint is not going to blow up a cruiser or a battleship from 70km+ away. Ragnorak needs QUALITY members becuase you lack any tactical or will to play and enjoy a game you maybe arent skilled enough to "win".
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:09:00 - [8] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 12:18:19 Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 12:17:47 Quote: I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. I for one don't and never will use them. Don't get me wrong I have thought about it when I crawl at 250m/s for 10 jumps to drop a tanker load of minerals. The time only inspires me to make use of it some way, maybe I contact an old aquantance I haven't convo'd for a Month or I randomly convo someone for a friendly chat. I can even work on keeping the corp supplied with my unique brand of humour(why do they never laugh?). I would also miss the risk of jumping in low sec. space. Yes some may ask but why put yourself in danger, well without the feeling of risk I would never appreciate what I have got. We all have our view on what we gain and what we lose form using and not using them. In the end only the individual can decide on which path to take. This one. You should be banned for posting such unintelligent trolling behavior. CCP I refuse to even accept I am the same species as these n00bs. I will refrain from posting on the forum since the obvious trolls will not be removed. Anyone who types in that they agree with instajumping and instadocking is trolling. Trolling = Anything that will incite an overly aggresive response or was meant to bring an act of agression. I am going to quote the back of my box of eve. "Immerse yourself in the vast virgin territories of EVE where power is teh Holy Grail and the ultimate aphorodisiac. Concveive a new life without boundaries, where murder<--, Plunder<---, Betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin. The galaxy is yours to control if you have the brains <---, Strength <---, and cunning to succeed. Never did it say you would be invulnerable. That you would be guaranteed ultimate power. And it didnt say you need a IQ less then 100 to play(IQs above 100 are recommended). So jeez I dont know where else to go with this. I have an IQ of higher then 100 and I dont want to play a game where I have to pretend to have a IQ of less then that.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:21:00 - [9] "I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. " You just admitted you dont mind if other people use them. That makes you fall under the Less then 100 IQ group. Maybe this is your idea of a pathetically easy game with no sense of danger. Your either inept or .... INEPT.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:41:00 - [10] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 12:54:19 Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 12:53:40
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:57:00 - [11] Quote: Quote: YOU ARE A INEPT CAREBEAR THICKHEADED n00b WITH AN IQ LESS THEN 100. As this is a personally insulting remark and in clear breech of the forum regulations. Can i ask that Sin is dealt with accordingly? Huh? Please. If your so smart why dont you bring something CONSTRUCTIVE to the post. Else stop being a behind the scenes carebear alt.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 22:43:00 - [12] you idiot. if your going to call em an idiot ill call you one back. ccp doesnt pay your real life money we are talking about ISK(ingame currency). Since when is your time playing eve worth any real life money? Its not you play the game on your own free will. Get a life. Get an educaation. And stop wasting our time. MC****. Hello mcfly.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.25 05:05:00 - [13] Azamien. I was a beta tester. I had a character with over 1.5 million skill points after retail but deleted it and quit for awhile. I decided to start fresh and start a new account totally. And im not sure if my old account was still saved. My math is correct. My logic is correct. Its easy to say someone is wrong but can you prove it? Nope so dont bother. n00b.

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