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Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.02.24 09:34:00 - [1] Edited by: Silverlancer on 24/02/2004 09:36:54 Instajump bookmarks... Require advanced scouting and risking one's LIFE to scout behind the gates. Not easy! Since bookmarks can't be duplicated, LET INSTAJUMP BOOKMARKS BE. It is far too easy to camp a gate. And those who were smart enough and wasted days making bookmarks should be rewarded.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.02.24 09:45:00 - [2] Very easy to copy bookmarks. *Spawn of the Devil*
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 09:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 09:47:13 I think that since gates and stations are the two most frequently traveled routes in Eve that all bookmarks should be disabled within 60km of them(or far enoughw here we cant put a bookmark on other side and effectively warp within 1-15km of a gate or station). This will get rid of "insta" jumping and docking. I also think that we should be priveleaged with ading a custom warp distance. Like say I wanted to warp in at 100km . With MWD and such it is possible to even go 1000km in a relatively short time. So warping in at 1000km is not entirely ridiculous. Give us more free reign to warp where we want but never closer then 15km. This will make defending stations and gates more easier for the defender as it should be. I think my first idea is pretty common sense and is not hard to do since every system has a coordinate system. All CCP has to do is say if bookmark in this area then do not allow bookmark to be created. And make sure you make it unexploitable and everyone is happy except the n00bs. I enjoy tactics and wroking hard to accomplish something. I do not enjoy this handed to me on a silver platter. I have read alot of stuff about this and some of the more ridiculous ideas are rotating gates in a circle and all this crap. Just disable the bookmarks in a radius around anywhere you dont want people exploiting them(gates and stations). Asteroid belts should be left as they are since you cant dock or jump you can only "warp" out of them.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.02.24 09:49:00 - [4] Edited by: Omniwar on 24/02/2004 09:50:56 I think bookmarks of most sizes and shapes are here to stay, else CCP wouldnt have made the changes that allow you to see the bookmarks in the system you are in. But I would like if they changed it like it was meant to be, that you cant enter a certain "bubble" around gates and stations, i.e. when coming out of warp you will always land at the same diistance no matter if you have bookmarks or not. *Spawn of the Devil*
Riddari	Posted - 2004.02.24 09:52:00 - [5] Quote: I think that since gates and stations are the two most frequently traveled routes in Eve that all bookmarks should be disabled within 60km of them omg Sin Ist is a troll RP character ¼©¼ a history
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:02:00 - [6] Quote: But I would like if they changed it like it was meant to be, that you cant enter a certain "bubble" around gates and stations, i.e. when coming out of warp you will always land at the same diistance no matter if you have bookmarks or not. Too much travel time. Of course, if you REALLY want this feature, you could buy enough warp disruptor units to blockade every single gate in the galaxy _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
Fester Addams	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:09:00 - [7] Warp Disruptors! Insta jump bookmarks will stay, why else would the devs have introduced warp disruptors with the official use of them being designed to block insta jump bookmarks. Insta jump bookmarks may not have been initially intended but as they have been around and widly used since beta I would suspect they would have put in code similar to the one that blocks you from anchoring cans within 100km from a gate if they wanted them to be removed. Wich to me meens they will not be removed, starting threads in favor of or oposed to them will only make more and more poeple aware of their benefit and more people will use them, I say good. The counter to the bookmarks is deployables! Stick that warp disruptor in the right place and wheee, its duck season!
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:13:00 - [8] I fail to see how deployable warp jammer prevent instajump/dock bookmarks since you dont warp away from the gate/station you just landed at. *Spawn of the Devil*
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:17:00 - [9] Edited by: Silverlancer on 24/02/2004 10:22:13 Quote: I fail to see how deployable warp jammer prevent instajump/dock bookmarks since you dont warp away from the gate/station you just landed at. OK... here's why. The warp disruptor STOPS YOU at the edge of its range So you never get to the BM.
Alynthir	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:18:00 - [10] Omni, because when a ship hits the egde of the disruption field, it's like hitting a brick wall: the ship drops out of warp well short of it's 'insta-jump' bookmark. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:26:00 - [11] Is that 100% and been tested ? Havent chacked my self since I hardly ever go on Chaos. If this is the case then thats great news, and probably more use to regional alliances than pirates so it will indeed spice up the game a bit *Spawn of the Devil*
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:33:00 - [12] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 10:53:14 Well anyways I think instadocking and instajumping is LAME. It is viable for slow haulers and the like trying to dock or maybe jump fast. But it is too eaisly exploited in times of war. What fun is it declaring war on some n00b corp and then theres no way to attack them ebcuase they are instadocking or instajumping? And the same? What stops me from just taunting corps with war and warping all over the place laughing? If they have the forces enought o sit at a gate and im n0b enought o be outnumebred or outgunned I deserved to be killed. I dont deserve to be able to play warp tag or jump tag all day and night in empire space. I think its a joke and bad planning. I almost expected to see a "Cannot create bookmark at this location" when i used to mine in beta and instadock my haulers and stuff. I neevr really put in a post or bug report becuase i stopped playing(life got too busy). I am enjoying myself but I would liek this game to have some degree of difficulty and not totally be insulting to my intelligence, skillwise. Sure there is still alot of hard things to accomplish. But with all of these loopholes around things it makes it for a pretty sucky roadtrip. How can i defeat the greedy alliances that call themselves fountain or curse or stain or whatever? Undoubtably all their miners are happily insta warping and docking to kingdom come. How can i ambush someone who if smart and take just their first trip out making bookmarks, UNAMBUSHABLE. How can i declare war on the piratical and evil empires that are the alliances? How can I be assured I am not granted invulnerability in my own defense. Its all BORING to me. GET RID OF THE INSTADOCING AND INSTA JUMPING. 15km with afterburners or mwd is damn close enough and leaves little to no room of error for any would be attacker. Sticky this. Send it out in evemails. Read it. Understand it. Respect it. Eve is flawed when there is talent enough where it shouldnt be. Anyone who posts otherwise is a troller and griefer and I will petition.
McWatt	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:51:00 - [13] not again, please!!! no, it doesn t take LOTS of risk/time to make them. yes, they ruin blockades. yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage. no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...) sigh.
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 10:55:00 - [14] mcwatt can i ask you what in the heck you just said? Yet another thread to blame my race for our ineptitude and drug use. Sleep it off man.
McWatt	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:00:00 - [15] read it again, man. (sad to say so, but looks like we are on the same side in this topic)
SgtMorgan Kane	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:13:00 - [16] I want to say to the m0o guy ther you guys are not "pirets". First of all pirets dont behave like you do they are in it for the money,supplyes and and the dream of getting rich. What you the so called "pirets" are nothing but pepole whit huge minority complex and it makes u feal good messing up the game for others in other words you are in it for the killing nothing else.
Fester Addams	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:14:00 - [17] Lets see, the intent of the deployable warp inhibitors is twofold: 1: block instajump bookmarks. This kind of gives the impression they have been upgraded from the "Oh, can you do that?" in beta when they were first used to "Yes its a part of the game, live with it." 2: Th deployable warp inhibitors will represent a high value pice of equipment that will make the campers think twise about abandoning the fight as soon as a camp breaking force arrives. Aparently the devs have decided its no fun having players be able to camp a gate without much cost. As soon as a force arives to drive the campers off the campers just warp to a safe spot and logs, waits an hour or so and can then log back on and resume their camp. The high price of the inhibitor is there to make the people using it want to guard it. On a side note, I have heard rumors of pirates who have managed to pop players out of mid warp with an inhibitor, maby we finaly have gotten a way to angage ppl somwhere new. Its just a rumor but it opens upp a whole new posibility of piracy, one that you will have to have interceptors to combat. In short, stop whining and get with the program, CCP may not be the fastest feature fixing company out there but they meen well and will get there in the end.
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:15:00 - [18] I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. I for one don't and never will use them. Don't get me wrong I have thought about it when I crawl at 250m/s for 10 jumps to drop a tanker load of minerals. The time only inspires me to make use of it some way, maybe I contact an old aquantance I haven't convo'd for a Month or I randomly convo someone for a friendly chat. I can even work on keeping the corp supplied with my unique brand of humour(why do they never laugh?). I would also miss the risk of jumping in low sec. space. Yes some may ask but why put yourself in danger, well without the feeling of risk I would never appreciate what I have got. We all have our view on what we gain and what we lose form using and not using them. In the end only the individual can decide on which path to take. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:18:00 - [19] Quote: I want to say to the m0o guy ther you guys are not "pirets". First of all pirets dont behave like you do they are in it for the money,supplyes and and the dream of getting rich. What you the so called "pirets" are nothing but pepole whit huge minority complex and it makes u feal good messing up the game for others in other words you are in it for the killing nothing else. I really doubt anyone is a pirate to get rich, everyone I know choose that way of gameplay for the fun and action. Your stereotype view of old fashion real life pirates as they were decades back doesnt apply in a game, cant you peaple understand that REAL LIFE has NOTHING to do with ONLINE game. *Spawn of the Devil*
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:19:00 - [20] Quote: not again, please!!! no, it doesn t take LOTS of risk/time to make them. yes, they ruin blockades. yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage. no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...) sigh. "OK not again please." I gathered you are talking about a new thread on instawarp(dock) n00bs. "yes, they ruin blockades." Ok thinking your talking about the n00bs who use instajumping and instadocking to avoid any and ALL enemies making anyone invulnerable to attack. Can we say LAME? We agree. "yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage." Ok yes we dont need people being god in EVE who CANNOT be killed as they pass from a station to a gate or any variation between the two. "no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...)" This is where I think your delusional. 1) warp disruptors are NOT expensive. You get them for FREE if you take the time to do agent missions. You build them with minerals you can buy or get for FREE. They are expensive to you becuase you are most liekly a n00b who will dish out 100mill to buy them from some unfaithful corp ganking you for your isk. 2? Battle lag. Hmmm. I dont know about you but how is warp disruptors going to make any more lag then say a station or a gate in the first place? It wont. Lets just take out sentry guns and gates so we can have less lag. Give me a break. If your on a dialup connection expect there to be lag in a 3d persistant mmorpg that is Eve. Especially in any twitch PVP situation. NO im not waiting 300ms for your n00b self to resynch with my latest move. Blow up or quit. I dunno I just see alot of people on these forums with 0 common sense or moral.
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:21:00 - [21] Quote: Quote: not again, please!!! no, it doesn t take LOTS of risk/time to make them. yes, they ruin blockades. yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage. no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...) sigh. "OK not again please." I gathered you are talking about a new thread on instawarp(dock) n00bs. "yes, they ruin blockades." Ok thinking your talking about the n00bs who use instajumping and instadocking to avoid any and ALL enemies making anyone invulnerable to attack. Can we say LAME? We agree. "yes, you should have an advantage if you got a BM, but no 100% free passage." Ok yes we dont need people being god in EVE who CANNOT be killed as they pass from a station to a gate or any variation between the two. "no, warp inhibitors are not the solution. (far too expensive, batttle lag, ...)" This is where I think your delusional. 1) warp disruptors are NOT expensive. You get them for FREE if you take the time to do agent missions. You build them with minerals you can buy or get for FREE. They are expensive to you becuase you are most liekly a n00b who will dish out 100mill to buy them from some unfaithful corp ganking you for your isk. 2? Battle lag. Hmmm. I dont know about you but how is warp disruptors going to make any more lag then say a station or a gate in the first place? It wont. Lets just take out sentry guns and gates so we can have less lag. Give me a break. If your on a dialup connection expect there to be lag in a 3d persistant mmorpg that is Eve. Especially in any twitch PVP situation. NO im not waiting 300ms for your n00b self to resynch with my latest move. Blow up or quit. I dunno I just see alot of people on these forums with 0 common sense or moral. Thank you Sin Ist
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:32:00 - [22] Quote: I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. I for one don't and never will use them. Don't get me wrong I have thought about it when I crawl at 250m/s for 10 jumps to drop a tanker load of minerals. The time only inspires me to make use of it some way, maybe I contact an old aquantance I haven't convo'd for a Month or I randomly convo someone for a friendly chat. I can even work on keeping the corp supplied with my unique brand of humour(why do they never laugh?). I would also miss the risk of jumping in low sec. space. Yes some may ask but why put yourself in danger, well without the feeling of risk I would never appreciate what I have got. We all have our view on what we gain and what we lose form using and not using them. In the end only the individual can decide on which path to take. Can we say KOS? BAN! MURDER ! PLUNDER! Im just going to assume you dont speak english and you dont know the nonsense you just said. So wait. We are paying 12.99$ to just do what we want and all watch each other do it? So I cant kill smacktalking n00b in local becuase he is insta jumping and dokcing from system to system? You sir are a carebear n00b. I will seriosuly quit just for the sole fact that this isnt a lets play god simulator. If this is going ot be a skilless joke im out. Im just gonna declare war and warp and jump circles around you. Not very fun and kind of a waste of my time to even declare war in first place. And what is wrong with 15km? If you cant get 5-10km to a gate then you shouldnt be warping to that gate in the first place. Why even have a skill system? If eveerything is going to be handed to us on a silver platter. If your going to grant me invulnerability to attack then why notmake me level 5 in everything and lets call this god simulator 1.0... When I think of Eve I thought of a game that required skill and charisma and dedication to make it in the world. Now I see a feminine avatar creation contest with spaceships. Down with carebears. Down with stupid people(we have their address and credit card numbers, lets do something about it.). Im up for a good old fashioned crusade, picket, massmurder. Whatever it takes to make Eve the best it should be. In fact I shoudlnt even be typing this they should already have the common sense to fix these design flaws.
McWatt	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:34:00 - [23] k, you two. Quote: This is where I think your delusional. 1) warp disruptors are NOT expensive. You get them for FREE if you take the time to do agent missions. You build them with minerals you can buy or get for FREE. They are expensive to you becuase you are most liekly a n00b who will dish out 100mill to buy them from some unfaithful corp ganking you for your isk. NOTHING IS FREE! (as long as you ve got to work for it.) Quote: 2? Battle lag. Hmmm. I dont know about you but how is warp disruptors going to make any more lag then say a station or a gate in the first place? It wont. Lets just take out sentry guns and gates so we can have less lag. Give me a break. If your on a dialup connection expect there to be lag in a 3d persistant mmorpg that is Eve. Especially in any twitch PVP situation. NO im not waiting 300ms for your n00b self to resynch with my latest move. Blow up or quit. I dunno I just see alot of people on these forums with 0 common sense or moral. hm. your common sense is striking. as everything seems to get capped, connection has little influence. (and i m on broadband, btw) think about a fairly expensive, vulnerable station in space. no running, no hiding, for once. you might want to bring a buddy or two, to defend it. the attackers will know this and bring their own team. does my sentence on lag slowly start making sense to you? few pirates will use them. and boy, you re going to love them on the main entrances to alliance space. have fun!
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:39:00 - [24] Quote: Can we say KOS? BAN! MURDER ! PLUNDER! Im just going to assume you dont speak english and you dont know the nonsense you just said. So wait. We are paying 12.99$ to just do what we want and all watch each other do it? So I cant kill smacktalking n00b in local becuase he is insta jumping and dokcing from system to system? You sir are a carebear n00b. I will seriosuly quit just for the sole fact that this isnt a lets play god simulator. If this is going ot be a skilless joke im out. Im just gonna declare war and warp and jump circles around you. Not very fun and kind of a waste of my time to even declare war in first place. And what is wrong with 15km? If you cant get 5-10km to a gate then you shouldnt be warping to that gate in the first place. Why even have a skill system? If eveerything is going to be handed to us on a silver platter. If your going to grant me invulnerability to attack then why notmake me level 5 in everything and lets call this god simulator 1.0... When I think of Eve I thought of a game that required skill and charisma and dedication to make it in the world. Now I see a feminine avatar creation contest with spaceships. Down with carebears. Down with stupid people(we have their address and credit card numbers, lets do something about it.). Im up for a good old fashioned crusade, picket, massmurder. Whatever it takes to make Eve the best it should be. In fact I shoudlnt even be typing this they should already have the common sense to fix these design flaws. Which post were you reading? ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:48:00 - [25] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 11:49:52 mc**** so now your saying that CCP has to pay us for playing the game since our labor and time put into game is worth something? This is a GAME <---- G A M E You do agent mission you get blueprint. You mine you get minerals. You do agent mission and you collect tech 2 components. TOTAL COST = 0 <------------- Or you do none of that. And you get ganked by all of the unmoral thiefing corps that eve consists of. If you want a warp disruptor or some uber guns you go out and find them(its what makes the game the game). You understand that for ever isk you buy something with, that isk is then being turned around and used against you. I myself will never buy anything from anybody. I dont know many people and I would just be funding there escapades. If I cant get it myself then I prolly shouldnt have it. Since Eve does not have hourly ISK wages for every hour you play you have no justification in saying your time in eve is worth anything more then 0isk. Pychian Vanervi: I was referring to your carebear obcenities and overall n00bness.
Morfhman	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:51:00 - [26] Quote: Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 10:53:14 Well anyways I think instadocking and instajumping is LAME. It is viable for slow haulers and the like trying to dock or maybe jump fast. But it is too eaisly exploited in times of war. What fun is it declaring war on some n00b corp and then theres no way to attack them ebcuase they are instadocking or instajumping? And the same? What stops me from just taunting corps with war and warping all over the place laughing? If they have the forces enought o sit at a gate and im n0b enought o be outnumebred or outgunned I deserved to be killed. I dont deserve to be able to play warp tag or jump tag all day and night in empire space. I think its a joke and bad planning. I almost expected to see a "Cannot create bookmark at this location" when i used to mine in beta and instadock my haulers and stuff. I neevr really put in a post or bug report becuase i stopped playing(life got too busy). I am enjoying myself but I would liek this game to have some degree of difficulty and not totally be insulting to my intelligence, skillwise. Sure there is still alot of hard things to accomplish. But with all of these loopholes around things it makes it for a pretty sucky roadtrip. How can i defeat the greedy alliances that call themselves fountain or curse or stain or whatever? Undoubtably all their miners are happily insta warping and docking to kingdom come. How can i ambush someone who if smart and take just their first trip out making bookmarks, UNAMBUSHABLE. How can i declare war on the piratical and evil empires that are the alliances? How can I be assured I am not granted invulnerability in my own defense. Its all BORING to me. GET RID OF THE INSTADOCING AND INSTA JUMPING. 15km with afterburners or mwd is damn close enough and leaves little to no room of error for any would be attacker. Sticky this. Send it out in evemails. Read it. Understand it. Respect it. Eve is flawed when there is talent enough where it shouldnt be. Anyone who posts otherwise is a troller and griefer and I will petition. Sin Ist may i ask WHAT ABOUT US WHO ARE IN IT NOT FOR WAR,NOT IN IT FOR PIRETING and just want to be left alone and to have fun.Now what do we do when we see gate campers we try to get away but noooo CCP comes whit warp disrupters just for the xxx pirets and other xxxxxx. Our only cance is insta jump and docking becous what can 1 truck do agenst 1 battel ship i may ask,nothing other than die. Some of us in this game dont want to fight we are miners and bulders and its hard enufh as it is whit out taking out the only thing that is left for us to get things done WHIT OUT getting shot at. Now you can do all the war you want in 0,0 sec systems i never go ther any way becous the loss is always more than the few Bistot roids we get and thats becous pirets shoot you up for fun or som one else saying you are a spy,fun isnt? Now i dont know what u ment on this petition threat you made, I quot:Anyone who posts otherwise is a troller and griefer and I will petition Oke PETITION THIS: If you want me to stop "troller and griefer" I live in Iceland and ill send you my address and you can come and MAKE me....
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.02.24 11:53:00 - [27] Quote: Pychian Vanervi: I was referring to your carebear obcenities and overall n00bness. Oh you were on about my carebear obcenities, which ones?? And my overall n00bness, ok well I guess the last 9 months of playing eve I have had my eyes closed! ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:07:00 - [28] Morfhman: This is easy. You start the game with a newb ship in a corporation. You do agent missions in protected space or you mine minerals in protected space. Since you cannot have war declared on you in a newbie corporation or any empire corporation you cannot be attacked anywhere in .5 or above. The second you decide you want to be independant or join another group of independants you now open yourself to the world that is Eve. The one advertised on the box when you bought it. People can declare war on you. You are not only obligated but you are required to be able to defend yourself or risk elimination. If for whatever reason you wisht o avoid this altogether then stay in a empire sponsored corporation such as the one you started the game in. Advantages: You get to do what you want like this. You can avoid war altogether. Or you can become independant and actually fight in one. You can die and you can kill. You can do everything. Disadvantages: None Silverlancer: Why dont you get on your girl character and pretend to be a fem. Scouting and risking ones life IS EASY and no risk is involved becuase your claoked when you jump in and you can either jump back where you came from or if coast is clear create a instajump from the next gate your going to. Then you warp to next gate and if theres trouble you warpback and instajump. Not much risk there. Since carebears are n00bs lets BAN carebears. Unnamed 0.0 are there as the challenege to the game. Cant really be ganked in any named 0.0 systems if your flying a big ship. They just cant get clsoe becuase of sentries and any damage they do in your short 10km trip to the jumppoint is not going to blow up a cruiser or a battleship from 70km+ away. Ragnorak needs QUALITY members becuase you lack any tactical or will to play and enjoy a game you maybe arent skilled enough to "win".
Sin Ist	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:09:00 - [29] Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 12:18:19 Edited by: Sin Ist on 24/02/2004 12:17:47 Quote: I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. I for one don't and never will use them. Don't get me wrong I have thought about it when I crawl at 250m/s for 10 jumps to drop a tanker load of minerals. The time only inspires me to make use of it some way, maybe I contact an old aquantance I haven't convo'd for a Month or I randomly convo someone for a friendly chat. I can even work on keeping the corp supplied with my unique brand of humour(why do they never laugh?). I would also miss the risk of jumping in low sec. space. Yes some may ask but why put yourself in danger, well without the feeling of risk I would never appreciate what I have got. We all have our view on what we gain and what we lose form using and not using them. In the end only the individual can decide on which path to take. This one. You should be banned for posting such unintelligent trolling behavior. CCP I refuse to even accept I am the same species as these n00bs. I will refrain from posting on the forum since the obvious trolls will not be removed. Anyone who types in that they agree with instajumping and instadocking is trolling. Trolling = Anything that will incite an overly aggresive response or was meant to bring an act of agression. I am going to quote the back of my box of eve. "Immerse yourself in the vast virgin territories of EVE where power is teh Holy Grail and the ultimate aphorodisiac. Concveive a new life without boundaries, where murder<--, Plunder<---, Betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin. The galaxy is yours to control if you have the brains <---, Strength <---, and cunning to succeed. Never did it say you would be invulnerable. That you would be guaranteed ultimate power. And it didnt say you need a IQ less then 100 to play(IQs above 100 are recommended). So jeez I dont know where else to go with this. I have an IQ of higher then 100 and I dont want to play a game where I have to pretend to have a IQ of less then that.
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.02.24 12:18:00 - [30] Quote: Quote: I think the use of insta jump/dock BM's is down to the individual. If the user of them is happy to kill off parts of the game in the search of a quick way to make isk, or make X amount of jumps risk free then there is little that can be done to stop them. I for one don't and never will use them. Don't get me wrong I have thought about it when I crawl at 250m/s for 10 jumps to drop a tanker load of minerals. The time only inspires me to make use of it some way, maybe I contact an old aquantance I haven't convo'd for a Month or I randomly convo someone for a friendly chat. I can even work on keeping the corp supplied with my unique brand of humour(why do they never laugh?). I would also miss the risk of jumping in low sec. space. Yes some may ask but why put yourself in danger, well without the feeling of risk I would never appreciate what I have got. We all have our view on what we gain and what we lose form using and not using them. In the end only the individual can decide on which path to take. This one. me holds up a cross I still fail to see why you think any of my post his noobified or carebear as you put it? You don't like insta jump/dock BM from what I can tell. Agreed? Well if you get off your soap box and come back to earth for a minute or 2 you will find if you read my post I am not keen on them either. So again what are you on about or are you just going to have a go at everyone in this thread. And while we are at it did you want to start using your main character to post or are you also a coward? -----------------------------* It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!

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