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Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 01:33:00 - [1] 10 ways the world could suddenly end Look at number 3 at 20:00 MRSA So are you worried? ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 01:33:00 - [2] 10 ways the world could suddenly end Look at number 3 at 20:00 MRSA So are you worried? ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 01:44:00 - [3] Originally by: Akita T You do know that antibiotics research was all but practically halted many years ago, do you ? I don't think we'll be having problems coming up with new ones IF it becomes a MAJOR threat. Problem with that is that the epidemic has to hit 1st to get the political will to find a way to eliminate the strain. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 01:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Akita T You do know that antibiotics research was all but practically halted many years ago, do you ? I don't think we'll be having problems coming up with new ones IF it becomes a MAJOR threat. Problem with that is that the epidemic has to hit 1st to get the political will to find a way to eliminate the strain. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 01:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Akita T It won't kill everybody, and even a 99% casualty rate won't mean the extinction of human kind (60+ mil alive). But the "end of the world as we know it", well, that, yeah, pretty much Oh I'm not talking mass extinction, just that the epidemic might be very close to hitting us. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 01:48:00 - [6] Edited by: Rialtor on 21/10/2007 01:51:12 Originally by: Akita T It won't kill everybody, and even a 99% casualty rate won't mean the extinction of human kind (60+ mil alive). But the "end of the world as we know it", well, that, yeah, pretty much Oh I'm not talking mass extinction, just that a major epidemic might be very close to hitting us. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 02:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Caid Lemant Brings up so much truth about depression and its effect on our species. Especially how current anti-depressants aren't effective to a majority of those with the problem. I dunno Depression is kind of a crock. I think the rise of depression has to do with our laziness. You'd be surprised to learn that exercise has the same if not better rate of curing depression than any medication availible. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 08:17:00 - [8] Originally by: Eval B'Stard Edited by: Eval B''Stard on 21/10/2007 07:02:33 Originally by: Sharupak Edited by: Sharupak on 21/10/2007 06:10:31 Oh sorry for the triple post, but it was necessary. To answer your post rialtor. The real solution is to do what you can and also to live for the now. If the ** hits the fan, two things are going to happen...either there is nothing after this life and it..you had fun and you wont remember the bad times (or the good for that matter) or there is an afterlife to which you can say "Look at the I did" "That was a blast, whats next!" I couldn't agree more, if the ** does hit the fan and it wipes us out as long as I can say "Yeah my life has been pretty good" I'll be happy. Not all of those 10 are what would be classed as ELE's (Extinction Level Events) anyway some people would survive to continue on. At the end of the day it's not worth worrying about UNLESS you are one of those people that is in a position to actively do something about it, if an asteroid struck the planet next week theres not a lot I myself could do about, but there are people that could, so I'm not gonna worry about it, if it happens it happens, I've got other more immediate problems to worry about at the moment. I don't know, something like an asteriod plan wouldn't necessarily be top secret. The fact that we don't know about it would probably mean that we don't have a plan. Well, I think we have "plans" but just theoretical, nothing ready to be implemented. I've heard scientists talk about orbiting asteriods with satelites to change their path before. However, there's no sense of urgency here, because the public just isn't concerned about it. Sometimes it's on citizens to raise interest in a topic to get some political clout to get some of these programs rolling. This idea of not worrying might lead to our doom, we should worry, enough to spark interest to correct some of those issues. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 08:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Sharupak I cures it for the moment. I think that alot of people that are depressed are that way because they figured out that they spend 3/4 of their waking life doing a job that they dont like and even if they were doing one that they did like, they are pressed to do it all the time. There are probably a couple of other lockdowns in there, but the basic idea is they wake up one morning and realize that the social world they live in does not allow free creativity and expression in the manner that they would like to express it. The real killing you softly. If you wind the clock way way back, like the middle ages. Are you saying we work more than those serfs working on the fields? I don't think so, Today we have an abundance of free time. More so than any other point in human history. We have so many of our needs taken care of us. Heat, Water, Food, Entertainment, etc. Technology has advanced us to a point where we don't need to leave your house ever. Today we can get away with doing so little work or activity it's not funny. Take me for example, technically for a day all I HAVE to do is go to work. I take the bus, but I could drive. All I would have to do is walk to a car drive to work, and sit in a chair for 8 hours. Go home, and sit in a chair for another 8-10 hours. Everything else is freetime to do whatever it is I want to do. It's that kind of lifestyle that causes this depression epidemic, because it's becoming the norm. Now I'm not saying depression doesn't exist but I would say this move towards laziness is the reason for the increase in depression in America. I would say the move towards laziness and bad nutrition is the sole reason for the increase in cases of depression in this country, and among kids in specific. Physical Education is optional now in some curriculum. If you notice it's not the poor that's depressed, it's the privileged, so it's not really a quality of life issue. Also the medical institutions have sold their soul to drug companies. Too many things are attributed to depression, and the 1st thing they do is prescribed some pills for it instead of just solving the root problem. Again, I'm not saying depression doesn't happen but this epidemic is kind of a hoax. People just need to change their lifestyle and be more active and the levels of depression will go back to normal levels. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.21 20:37:00 - [10] Edited by: Rialtor on 21/10/2007 20:40:19 Originally by: Rosa Rosette staph aureus, also the resistant form, has been there for ages. usually it is no problem unless you wash too often and by that destroy your natural germ flora or you are immuno suppressed or suffering from any other illness. you also mostly find those germs in hospitals and they are not resistant to ethanol. so if you get really woried get some 70% ethanol in water and give your house/flat a good rub. personally i prefer the use of ethanol via my digestive system even though it might not help with germs It's not necessarily the Staph I'm worried about. It's that staph then mutates into something way worse and we have no way to fight it. The MASS panic that would cause would be catastrophic to society. Mass containment zones etc. And it's scary to think that it may not be that far away. We may have painted ourselves in a corner with our liberal use of antibiotics. I mean, I've never taken one in my life. And that should probably be the case for most people, but it's not. Doctors provide them for the silliest things that would have gotten better on it's own. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.22 14:54:00 - [11] Originally by: Sharupak Probably out of all of the scenarios Rialtor is the Biotech disaster. I mean that would suck if I ate some corn and 4 months later, I have a third arm or something. Then again that might be a good thing LOL!. The idea though that a couple of out of hand experiments and BLAM something is way off with ecosystems because some species is now OMGWTFPWN. Your only solution is to geneticaly modify a counter and we are then off to the races. I would be very ugly indeed. I think there's several things that are quite likely to devastate human kind if not eliminate it. I think a super strain is very likely to hit made more dangerous overuse of antibiotics allowing resistant strains to become more dominant. At this point, I don't think it's a matter of if, it's a matter of when and how soon. Some sort of man-made disaster, be it nuclear weapons, a black hole, man-made genetic imbalance of an ecosystem, some sort of self replicating nanobot gone haywire. You may laugh about the nanobots, but there's alot of self replication algorithms under works as well as nanobots already in testing. It may not to be too far over the horizon. A large Asteriod may be headed our way. That pole shift kind of freaked me out. In all my studying I've never heard that the pole shifts and that it would mean the end of everything. And we're overdue, wth? ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.10.22 14:57:00 - [12] Originally by: spurious signal Quick chip in here - I used to do research into certain molecular mechanisms of antibiotic resistance in bacteria, specifically MRSA strains - I was actually working on using multiple drugs in combination in an effort to supress the emergence of antibiotic resistance. The main problem with developing new antibiotics is profit, or lack of it. It takes about 10 years to develop a new antibiotic and get it to market. It costs billions to do this. Then as soon as your wonderful new antibiotic starts being put to widespread use resistance develops. So there's pretty much zero incentive for the big drug companies to spend time and money developing antibiotics. Willy drugs is where all the money is nowadays. Every single major drug company is currently spending the vast majority of their R&D budget on alternatives to Viagra. Why? Because of the MASSIVE profits that promises. Mankind may be doomed to die rotting from a vast collection of untreatable bacteria and fungi but we'll be able to get a stiffy while our flesh falls from our bones and our lungs liquify. You want new antibiotics? Gotta remove profit from the equation. Governments aren't going to do it, they operate for short-term benefit only - whatever makes them and their class the most money before the next election. Drug companies aren't going to do it. Too busy with willy drugs. I used to think nuclear war was the most likely way capitalism was going to fall apart, but after actually working in the field I now think that multiple drug resistant bacteria are more likely to wipe us out - if strains become epidemic that are virulent enough and resistant enough to be a serious problem then it'll be too late for drug development, it just takes too long. Sorry if that's depressing.... That doesn't really sound like an issue with capitalism to be honest. As when the antibiotics start to become less and less effective, the profit margins or newer antibiotics will be bigger and bigger. As long as medical companies have some sort of foresight they should keep their R&D open to other things that viagra :), being that the market is getting more saturated with that stupidity anyway. ---- sig ---- He who pays the piper, picks the tune

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