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Chromakey Dreamcoat
Caldari Model Of Aggression
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Posted - 2007.10.22 11:53:00 -
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I fought a so called veteran Drake pilot in my Deimos the other day and I could not break his tank. I get about 720 dps in this fit. I think he had a passive shield tank. Here's my setup:
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Explosive Hardener II Small Armor Repairer II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Fleeting Warp Scrambler I
Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I
Hammerhead II x 5
BTW: He killed me with Havoc Fury missiles and Hobgoblin II's before I could break him. His shield was held at 35-40 percent most the time, any ideas?
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Grytok
HighTech Research
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Posted - 2007.10.22 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Grytok on 22/10/2007 11:59:38 You're fighting against 70ish % Kinetic/Thermal resists here, which brings your damage down to 200 DPS. This can be tanked by a proper fitted Drake, where the recharge-rate is around 220-230/sec.
Use Infiltrator IIs instead of the Hammerhead IIs and you'll notice a change, as you now do 50-60 DPS more after counting his resist .
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Pichemanu
Computer-Aided General Exploitation
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:00:00 -
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Use EM drones. ********* buhuhu... ********* |
joshmorris
Ravenous Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:00:00 -
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know what targets you cant kill, i came across a drake ratting in 0.0 in my deimos, i only killed him because i think he was racial agaisnt the angel and had rat aggro ... if not even with the best setups you wont be able to kill a well tanked 1 on ur own.
Only idea i have is,
If ur going JUST for him, swap the mwd out for a cap recharger and swap the small nos out for a medium neut.
Then if he is useing active hardeners u will break the 30% where they hold then he will have basic resistances so u might do the extra damage to break him.
Oh and how long did u last ?? well under a min yeah ?
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ChimeraRouge
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: ChimeraRouge on 22/10/2007 12:03:04 [
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Chromakey Dreamcoat
Caldari Model Of Aggression
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: joshmorris know what targets you cant kill, i came across a drake ratting in 0.0 in my deimos, i only killed him because i think he was racial agaisnt the angel and had rat aggro ... if not even with the best setups you wont be able to kill a well tanked 1 on ur own.
Only idea i have is,
If ur going JUST for him, swap the mwd out for a cap recharger and swap the small nos out for a medium neut.
Then if he is useing active hardeners u will break the 30% where they hold then he will have basic resistances so u might do the extra damage to break him.
Oh and how long did u last ?? well under a min yeah ?
I didn't last long 2 minutes at most. Ran out of cap fairly quickly
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.22 12:05:00 -
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Except any experienced drake pilot that notices they're slowly going down is going to tear apart your drones. Rescooping doesn't save you from that kind of alpha. On the other hand, when it becomes clear you're losing, you can always GTFO. A drake that can tank that isn't going to have anything more than a disruptor for tackling. In a fit with more tank, you can just outlast his capacitor. Active hardeners or a disruptor alone will wipe out his cap assuming he goes all SPR. And if not, his tank is that much weaker.
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:06:00 -
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If it's a sparr, and he isn't using scrambler or any other modules cept his 10slot+3rig pasive tank, then you can't beat him. 1200+dps tests on test server can't break a 13slot passive tank.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:14:00 -
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Switch to faction antimatter if you haven't already, and EM drones, see if that helps. Drop the NOS and repper, add a plate and a small remote armor rep... switch rigs to trimarks... you'll last a lot longer (and worry about repairing if you do survive, best would be if this is a gang of two similarly set-up Deimos). _
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Boonaki
Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:27:00 -
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Put a cyno on, screw the rest.
Sigs are for losers. Yes this is a sig. |
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Aramendel
Amarr North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Chromakey Dreamcoat I didn't last long 2 minutes at most. Ran out of cap fairly quickly
What was he using? Did he scramble or web you?
If he is not using them he cannot kill you since you can warp out (or MWD out of WD range) at any time.
Fitting tackle mods severly reduces the tank of a drake. So if you are using a scram and web and he isn't you are obviously at a disadvantage since he'll have an effective 2 slot advantage. If he is not use tackle then for an equal comparsion you shouldn't either. Drop the web for a cap injector and you won't run out of cap that fast. For a pure duel you can switch the WD with a cap recharger, too.
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Eneela M
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:38:00 -
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It's not like you can do that much more damage, you lucked out with the guy using explosive missiles as most drake pilots i've met use kinetic for the damage bonus & they would barely scratch u.
As the others have said I would use something other than kin or therm drones but appart from that I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. Rightly or wrongly the drake is a pretty powerful ship.
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Chromakey Dreamcoat
Caldari Model Of Aggression
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Posted - 2007.10.22 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chromakey Dreamcoat on 22/10/2007 14:14:48
Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: Chromakey Dreamcoat I didn't last long 2 minutes at most. Ran out of cap fairly quickly
What was he using? Did he scramble or web you?
If he is not using them he cannot kill you since you can warp out (or MWD out of WD range) at any time.
Fitting tackle mods severly reduces the tank of a drake. So if you are using a scram and web and he isn't you are obviously at a disadvantage since he'll have an effective 2 slot advantage. If he is not use tackle then for an equal comparsion you shouldn't either. Drop the web for a cap injector and you won't run out of cap that fast. For a pure duel you can switch the WD with a cap recharger, too.
It was a pure duel and he got me while I was trying warp out.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.22 14:39:00 -
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A pure passive Drake can be made unkillable to anything sub-BC, pretty much. The downside is it cant kill anything, either
but lol. Veteran Drake pilot.. ? -----
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Calprimus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.10.22 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
but lol. Veteran Drake pilot.. ?
You may be surprised.........
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Making stuff
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Posted - 2007.10.22 16:33:00 -
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you really need a damage control and a medium rep. you'll also need a rig to fit neutron gank and maybe a cap rig.
you need to pick your fights as cap is a problem with this setup. and I doubt youll be able to beat the drake. perhaps EM damage drones would have made the difference.
a setup that ive been expirementing with is a tanked deimos
5x electorncs 1x point 1x mwd 1x cap injector
2x mar 1x dcu 1x eanm 1x explosive 1x mag stab
and 2 rep amount rigs. It can tank up to 560 dps, and puts out about 500 dps.
the only problem with this setup is no damn web. the deimos is a seriously gimped ship for 1 on 1. youre only chance is flying with a partner if you want to fly ganked fit.
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joshmorris
Ravenous Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.22 19:12:00 -
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ohh use 5 ecm drones and totally gimp ur damage somehow !?!
6 mag stabs ? lol
Uber idea solves all !! |
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