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Cyberflayer Vagabonds Unincorporated	Posted - 2007.10.22 17:51:00 - [1] So I've been seeing a lot of rabble on the forums involving these so-called "capitals." Now, I understand that the users of these capitals are big fans of them; they've spent a lot of time gaining the proper skills to use capitals with proficiency and are protective of their investment. Certainly, those that frequently employ the mighty power of the capital would want to keep a firm grip on this keystone to 0.0 conflicts. I also understand that our beloved CCP has deemed capitals are being use "the wrong way" in game. I understand this concern for game balance, but who is CCP to tell its subscribers what to do with their hard earned capitals. I mean, other than the developers, of course. You know, who are paid to design and balance the game. But still! Lots of people consider EVE a sandbox game, and that means the developers sometimes have to sit back and let the players build their own sand castles. Then, when some big kid comes and knocks them down and kicks sand in all the players' faces, CCP can say "we told you so." Now, my personal stance on this has no bearing on my solution, but I'm going to offer it anyway because this is a General Discussion thread and that's what we do here; we give our unwarranted, uninformed opinions to everybody who say they don't want to hear them but actually do because they clicked on the damn link in the first place. So, I've seen lots of capitals in game lately. They're everywhere, especially in local. Whenever somebody gets killed in 0.0 or low sec now, they get right down to calling in their own personal fleet of capitals, and suddenly there's capitals clogging up local and there's nothing to be done about it. I've even heard of these "supercapitals" like "motherships" and "titans," which I can only assume must be some ridiculously huge kind of capital that comes and messes everything up even worse. They must be freakin' huge to be called "supercapitals," 'cause capitals are already pretty darn big, you know. And sometimes, in gang chat, some guy will want to be heard and he'll start busting out his capitals and throwing his weight around, and then the next guy is spewing his capitals all over the place too, and soon enough - it's just like local, I tell you - it's all full of capitals and nothing can be done. Totally overpowered. But I think that everyone should still have a right to use capitals, you know? So I think some form of compromise is in order so that everyone will stop using this poor new developer guy as a scapegoat for all their capital-related angst. Luckily for the entire EVE community, I already came up with the perfect fix for capitals. It's not a nerf, I promise, just a rebalance. I really think people should start using a lot more of this and a lot less of this. The former will allow all of us fans of the proper use of capitals to still have our proper nouns and stuff, and if we all just voluntarily give up the latter, there will be a whole lot less OMG and WTF in local. If we just follow my idea about capitals, everything should turn out fine. Trust me. Thanks for listening. - Blog Below
CallistoWolf	Posted - 2007.10.22 17:54:00 - [2] Brillant! Signed!
Jovoich Towers Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.22 17:59:00 - [3] WTF U ON ABOUT?
Jason Marshall Wrath Of Khaine	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:02:00 - [4] Cyberflyer, YOU win again! Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Grapez Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:03:00 - [5] ALLCAPSNOSPACES!!!
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:03:00 - [6] Nope: You have no idea what this nerf will cause because you do not fly a Capital Ship. This is quite simply the WORST idea to come out of CCP in the 3 years I've been playing! Fire ZuluPark or at least demote him to a position where he cannot hurt the game I love. 44 mill skillpoints, all directed towards Carriers
Cyberflayer Vagabonds Unincorporated	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Princess Jodi Nope: You have no idea what this nerf will cause because you do not fly a Capital Ship. This is quite simply the WORST idea to come out of CCP in the 3 years I've been playing! Fire ZuluPark or at least demote him to a position where he cannot hurt the game I love. 44 mill skillpoints, all directed towards Carriers Lol at serious post. - Blog Below
Eomar Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Princess Jodi Nope: You have no idea what this nerf will cause because you do not fly a Capital Ship. This is quite simply the WORST idea to come out of CCP in the 3 years I've been playing! Fire ZuluPark or at least demote him to a position where he cannot hurt the game I love. 44 mill skillpoints, all directed towards Carriers Read OP THEN post. forum skills 101 GJ op, like bugs to a zapper ...in accordance with the prophecy
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:07:00 - [9] I like it! Signed! ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:09:00 - [10] I loled. -- Support fixing the EVE UI
omiNATION Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:15:00 - [11] Edited by: omiNATION on 22/10/2007 18:16:41 Edited by: omiNATION on 22/10/2007 18:16:03 Originally by: Princess Jodi Nope: You have no idea what this nerf will cause because you do not fly a Capital Ship. This is quite simply the WORST idea to come out of CCP in the 3 years I've been playing! Fire ZuluPark or at least demote him to a position where he cannot hurt the game I love. 44 mill skillpoints, all directed towards Carriers \t\t\t\|--- Princess Jodi
JamnOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:17:00 - [12] After seeing your examples I would like to say I fully agree with you a 120%. Ah what the heck, make 500% ________________________ Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Princess Jodi Nope: You have no idea what this nerf will cause because you do not fly a Capital Ship. This is quite simply the WORST idea to come out of CCP in the 3 years I've been playing! Fire ZuluPark or at least demote him to a position where he cannot hurt the game I love. 44 mill skillpoints, all directed towards Carriers That makes this thread even more hilarious than the Original Post! Oh, my goodness! Well, at least you can tell the ones that don't read. ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Mister Xerox	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:25:00 - [14] Hoy, I see I've got a lot of reading to do. Someone in chat mentioned a little about the changes to capitals, especially carriers... Now, I don't know all of the nerfs yet, haven't found the relevant posts, but IMO there's a perfect fix for capitals in lowsec (where they're a neusance with their near-invulnerability), especially the smartbombing twits. Sentries interdict at 200km. Not a bubble, just an effect like a warp scrambler, disabling the jumpdrive of any ship initiating hostilities within 200km of a sentry. Problem solved, situation balanced. This will let carriers sit somewhere within the system and deploy their fighters. Dreads can sit out at 201km and snipe to their heart's content. But get within 200km and anyone in a tanked ship can scram them, bring in their buddies, and baibai capital. Done.
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:26:00 - [15] Once I got it, I lawled. Except I'm in class and if I really lawled I'd be in trouble.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:32:00 - [16] Bah, such a hypocrite. What you people fail to realise is that Cyberflayer is a capital user himself. He uses capitals every day, all the time, against people, to help his corpmates, even when writing simple things like EVEmails, he's sitting on a plethera of capitals, just ready at his fingertips. Everywhere he goes. I've even heard he's got a fanbook about capitals which pofcourse CCP denies even exists! This is just another case of favoritism, which Cyberflayer just tries to cover up with this capital "whine". He just wants the other capital users to go away so he can better concentrate on his capital use and rule his little niche of this here world. I say we don't trust Cyberflayer in anything he says, 'cause he's just driving his own needs and ideas through once again. This is bull, big capital bull, and i for one will not idly shift through while Cyberflayer once again caps us and locks away the key. I say no more! capitals are free for anyone and everyone, not for some elitist crew who think their the first letter of the sentence. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Mister Xerox Hoy, I see I've got a lot of reading to do. Someone in chat mentioned a little about the changes to capitals, especially carriers... Now, I don't know all of the nerfs yet, haven't found the relevant posts, but IMO there's a perfect fix for capitals in lowsec (where they're a neusance with their near-invulnerability), especially the smartbombing twits. Sentries interdict at 200km. Not a bubble, just an effect like a warp scrambler, disabling the jumpdrive of any ship initiating hostilities within 200km of a sentry. Problem solved, situation balanced. This will let carriers sit somewhere within the system and deploy their fighters. Dreads can sit out at 201km and snipe to their heart's content. But get within 200km and anyone in a tanked ship can scram them, bring in their buddies, and baibai capital. Done. Does no one read before they post? ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Ernest Graefenberg Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Princess Jodi Nope: You have no idea what this nerf will cause because you do not fly a Capital Ship. This is quite simply the WORST idea to come out of CCP in the 3 years I've been playing! Fire ZuluPark or at least demote him to a position where he cannot hurt the game I love. 44 mill skillpoints, all directed towards Carriers Intelligent and convincing post. Would read again.
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:16:00 - [19] Actually, I did read the op post...I'm just stating my opinion on every Capital Nerf thread. This one got me riled up because of the reference to the 'poor developer guy.' I want no sympathy for ZuluPark...he floated an idea that is badder than the baddest bad ever, and then some. So... I want him hanged out to dry. This subject touches on the very thing I've focused my entire Eve training career on. I'll be dammed if I take ANY reference to it lightly.
citizen amarr33sd3g4	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:22:00 - [20] Thank you Cyberflayer.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Princess Jodi Actually, I did read the op post...I'm just stating my opinion on every Capital Nerf thread. This one got me riled up because of the reference to the 'poor developer guy.' I want no sympathy for ZuluPark...he floated an idea that is badder than the baddest bad ever, and then some. So... I want him hanged out to dry. This subject touches on the very thing I've focused my entire Eve training career on. I'll be dammed if I take ANY reference to it lightly. Read the post again. He's talking about Capital LETTERS, LIKE THESE I"M TYPING HERE, not Capital Ships! So funny! ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:25:00 - [22] sniff... Smells like epeen in here. Just like all of Princess what'sherface's posts... probably an ugly naked guy at his computer Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:30:00 - [23] ya...I know..Cap Lock and Shift. Whee. Let's just say that the Capital Nerf is not something I'm willing to joke about. Maybee a year or so from now when I can go up to ZuluPark and order a double-cheeseburger and fries it will be funny. Right now, it threatens everything I've trained up in Eve.
Auron Shadowbane Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:32:00 - [24] first i thought i wasted my time reading trough that wall of text. especially the conclusion was a bad let down. but finally, when reading how some ppl make themselfes clowns by not reading OP but still complaining, I enjoyed it. and btw: I HATE that devblog too.. first nerv/balance ever I'd like to see canned by 500%
Antares Herric APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:49:00 - [25] I fully endorse this product and/or service. OP is full of Win and Awesome. _________________ Ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
Tao Han Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:55:00 - [26] Originally by: Princess Jodi ya...I know..Cap Lock and Shift. Whee. Let's just say that the Capital Nerf is not something I'm willing to joke about. Maybee a year or so from now when I can go up to ZuluPark and order a double-cheeseburger and fries it will be funny. Right now, it threatens everything I've trained up in Eve. You are for real? Arent you? ------ snip Your signature image is password-protected. -Rauth Kivaro([email protected]) I know, CEO was being a tard. -Tao
Rusty PwnStar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.10.22 19:59:00 - [27] SAVE OUR CAPITALS... oops caps Regards Rusty
Cyberflayer Vagabonds Unincorporated	Posted - 2007.10.22 20:06:00 - [28] Originally by: Princess Jodi ya...I know..Cap Lock and Shift. Whee. Let's just say that the Capital Nerf is not something I'm willing to joke about. Maybee a year or so from now when I can go up to ZuluPark and order a double-cheeseburger and fries it will be funny. Right now, it threatens everything I've trained up in Eve. Lol serious opinion. Originally by: Auron Shadowbane first i thought i wasted my time reading trough that wall of text. especially the conclusion was a bad let down. Please elucidate. This comment is relevant to my interests. - Blog Below
Cyberflayer Vagabonds Unincorporated	Posted - 2007.10.22 20:36:00 - [29] Since this thread has slipped off the first page (purely unacceptable), I raise the following supposition; if all the carrier pilots get fed up and leave, is there then no problem of carrier blobbing? Or does a new generation, raised in ignorance, take their place? - Blog Below
Sky Grunthor Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.10.22 20:54:00 - [30] You shifty man you Cyber! don't you know every time you shift your words you endorse capitals? Theres even an arrow pointing to it!

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