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I know thousands who would spend some, and some who would spend thousands. It's a bad idea, period, because it gives the ones with RL wealth an advantage over the ones without, and thats not the point of a game.

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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau

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PROJECTILE WEAPONS ARE CORPSE LAUNCHERS!
LASERS ARE SOUL CANNONS!

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Your point is stupid.

You lose the forums for today.

You seem to lose the forums every day.

Time to better oneself.

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Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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Originally by: Grapez

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Then the coffee wore off, and I realized that Eve is just a game.

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Your point is stupid.

You lose the forums for today.

You seem to lose the forums every day.

Time to better oneself.

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that's funny coming from you mister....
as yes, here we go, mister character buyer.
more fail

and you...damp in a...
oh dear...

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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau

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PROJECTILE WEAPONS ARE CORPSE LAUNCHERS!
LASERS ARE SOUL CANNONS!

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Originally by: Grapez

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I used to get all ****ed about people with tons of alts, mostly ebayed or whatever. I also used to get ****ed about the rampant ISK buying.

Then the coffee wore off, and I realized that Eve is just a game. On top of that, a game that I can still have fun in, despite earning every ISK I've got and owning only one character.

So there. If either ISK sales or alts get so out of control, I (and probably many others) will just cancel, but as it is now I'm still having fun.

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Your point is stupid.

You lose the forums for today.

You seem to lose the forums every day.

Time to better oneself.

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that's funny coming from you mister....
as yes, here we go, mister character buyer.
more fail

and you...damp in a...
oh dear...

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OMFG You fail so badly you can't even understand why, can you?

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Your point is stupid.

You lose the forums for today.

You seem to lose the forums every day.

Time to better oneself.

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that's funny coming from you mister....
as yes, here we go, mister character buyer.
more fail

and you...damp in a...
oh dear...

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OMFG You fail so badly you can't even understand why, can you?

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Your point is stupid.

You lose the forums for today.

You seem to lose the forums every day.

Time to better oneself.

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that's funny coming from you mister....
as yes, here we go, mister character buyer.
more fail

and you...damp in a...
oh dear...

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OMFG You fail so badly you can't even understand why, can you?

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because I know what eve-search is?
and I've been playing for more than 2 weeks?

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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau

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PROJECTILE WEAPONS ARE CORPSE LAUNCHERS!
LASERS ARE SOUL CANNONS!

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Pudnucker

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Your point is stupid.

You lose the forums for today.

You seem to lose the forums every day.

Time to better oneself.

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that's funny coming from you mister....
as yes, here we go, mister character buyer.
more fail

and you...damp in a...
oh dear...

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OMFG You fail so badly you can't even understand why, can you?

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because I know what eve-search is?
and I've been playing for more than 2 weeks?

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Got hilarity?

I've been playing for a year and half. I have two accounts, one of which is unused

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you damp with gankgeddon?

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I'm still working on it

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 06:51:52
Here is a good overview of what we think of buying isk, using the supported time trade system

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I know thousands who would spend some, and some who would spend thousands. It's a bad idea, period, because it gives the ones with RL wealth an advantage over the ones without, and thats not the point of a game.

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Yeah!

which is completely different form the people that can afford multiple accounts!
I mean paying 15$ to have a second account is totally not using real life money to gain an advantage using real life funds.
not at all.

buying isk is bad!
using multiple accounts to increase your income is ok!

Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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I'm just posting the facts.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 06:51:52
Here is a good overview of what we think of buying isk, using the supported time trade system

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I know thousands who would spend some, and some who would spend thousands. It's a bad idea, period, because it gives the ones with RL wealth an advantage over the ones without, and thats not the point of a game.

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Yeah!

which is completely different form the people that can afford multiple accounts!
I mean paying 15$ to have a second account is totally not using real life money to gain an advantage using real life funds.
not at all.

buying isk is bad!
using multiple accounts to increase your income is ok!

Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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I'm just posting the facts.

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You're posting opinions.

I'll lay my cards on he table: I have 3 accounts. I don't believe that this is cheating.

To use a simple analogy, if I as a gazillionaire wanted to own the team that wins the European Cup of the Baseball World Series, I can increase my chances of this by bribing match officials, sabotaging other teams, inflating the market price for player contracts so that no other teams can compete for players unless they're owned by jillionaires too.

Or: I can increase my chances by not doing those things but by buying two teams!

On a side note, I would also note that having 3 accounts triples the amount of money that goes directly to CCP, making more resources available to increase server hardware, etc.

Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources.

Selling GTCs is better (although I still don't really like it much tbh) because it does give real money to CCP and it lets people play who wouldn't otherwise be able to. There comes a point though when you have individuals who sell dozens of GTCs to accumulate many billions of ISK. But I can't think of any way of stopping what must be a fairly rare event that wouldn't be worse than the problem. The same goes for people who have lots of accounts for R&D agents (such accounts are probably a major market for GTCs now that I think about it.)

Since GTC reselling has been stopped, at least GTCs can't so easily be used to launder macro/farming profits now. I do wonder if that isn't the real motivation behind so many of these threads that we see.

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Cordwainer Smith

and if you have been playing for so long why are posting with an alt?
use your main, show the fact that you have the 5bil isk to throw away.

I'll quote you..

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you damp with gankgeddon?

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you

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I'm still working on it

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if you really aren't another run of mill isk buying character buying piece of failure that can't do anything but spam a thread that stats nothing but a fact, and uses the vocab of a 19 year old.

if you really had 5 bil isk you wouldn't of need to buy a new account.

unless your old account is a scammer?
I've heard rumors :P


I'm really walking into a lock aren't I?

maybe I'll pay tarminic to whine about you :P

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Originally by: hellsknights

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IBTL

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Originally by: Maniva Lakona

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Hello, I have 14 accounts and I like mining. I also like eating food which is a great hobby and goes well with EVE.

That is all.

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 06:51:52
Here is a good overview of what we think of buying isk, using the supported time trade system

Quote:

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I know thousands who would spend some, and some who would spend thousands. It's a bad idea, period, because it gives the ones with RL wealth an advantage over the ones without, and thats not the point of a game.

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Yeah!

which is completely different form the people that can afford multiple accounts!
I mean paying 15$ to have a second account is totally not using real life money to gain an advantage using real life funds.
not at all.

buying isk is bad!
using multiple accounts to increase your income is ok!

Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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I'm just posting the facts.

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You're posting opinions.

I'll lay my cards on he table: I have 3 accounts. I don't believe that this is cheating.

To use a simple analogy, if I as a gazillionaire wanted to own the team that wins the European Cup of the Baseball World Series, I can increase my chances of this by bribing match officials, sabotaging other teams, inflating the market price for player contracts so that no other teams can compete for players unless they're owned by jillionaires too.

Or: I can increase my chances by not doing those things but by buying two teams!

On a side note, I would also note that having 3 accounts triples the amount of money that goes directly to CCP, making more resources available to increase server hardware, etc.

Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources.

Selling GTCs is better (although I still don't really like it much tbh) because it does give real money to CCP and it lets people play who wouldn't otherwise be able to. There comes a point though when you have individuals who sell dozens of GTCs to accumulate many billions of ISK. But I can't think of any way of stopping what must be a fairly rare event that wouldn't be worse than the problem. The same goes for people who have lots of accounts for R&D agents (such accounts are probably a major market for GTCs now that I think about it.)

Since GTC reselling has been stopped, at least GTCs can't so easily be used to launder macro/farming profits now. I do wonder if that isn't the real motivation behind so many of these threads that we see.

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I never said that "Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources." s ok

I don't care about either.
I was posting community opinion.

where in my post do state that having multiple accounts is a bad thing?

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 06:51:52
Here is a good overview of what we think of buying isk, using the supported time trade system

Quote:

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I know thousands who would spend some, and some who would spend thousands. It's a bad idea, period, because it gives the ones with RL wealth an advantage over the ones without, and thats not the point of a game.

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Yeah!

which is completely different form the people that can afford multiple accounts!
I mean paying 15$ to have a second account is totally not using real life money to gain an advantage using real life funds.
not at all.

buying isk is bad!
using multiple accounts to increase your income is ok!

Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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I'm just posting the facts.

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You're posting opinions.

I'll lay my cards on he table: I have 3 accounts. I don't believe that this is cheating.

To use a simple analogy, if I as a gazillionaire wanted to own the team that wins the European Cup of the Baseball World Series, I can increase my chances of this by bribing match officials, sabotaging other teams, inflating the market price for player contracts so that no other teams can compete for players unless they're owned by jillionaires too.

Or: I can increase my chances by not doing those things but by buying two teams!

On a side note, I would also note that having 3 accounts triples the amount of money that goes directly to CCP, making more resources available to increase server hardware, etc.

Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources.

Selling GTCs is better (although I still don't really like it much tbh) because it does give real money to CCP and it lets people play who wouldn't otherwise be able to. There comes a point though when you have individuals who sell dozens of GTCs to accumulate many billions of ISK. But I can't think of any way of stopping what must be a fairly rare event that wouldn't be worse than the problem. The same goes for people who have lots of accounts for R&D agents (such accounts are probably a major market for GTCs now that I think about it.)

Since GTC reselling has been stopped, at least GTCs can't so easily be used to launder macro/farming profits now. I do wonder if that isn't the real motivation behind so many of these threads that we see.

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I never said that "Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources." s ok

I don't care about either.
I was posting community opinion.

where in my post do state that having multiple accounts is a bad thing?

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In the thread title. You make a direct comparison between buying ISK and having 3 accounts.

So what are you stating? That having 3 accounts is OK but buying ISK is OK? Or that both are cheating?

Since you've taken it upon yourself to claim that "I was posting community opinion." could you at least post it explicitly.

Do you think it is OK to buy ISK? Because I'd guess that a majority of the 'community' doesn't. In fact I'd go so far as to say that even most of the people who do buy ISK know that it isn't really OK.

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Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 06:51:52
Here is a good overview of what we think of buying isk, using the supported time trade system


Yeah!

which is completely different form the people that can afford multiple accounts!
I mean paying 15$ to have a second account is totally not using real life money to gain an advantage using real life funds.
not at all.

buying isk is bad!
using multiple accounts to increase your income is ok!

Originally by: SoftRevolution

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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/10/2007 06:50:13
I think it just chafes the people with 5 accounts that the guys buying ISK earn more than they do IRL.

Confronting them with their RL failings ingame must totally defeat the object of the exercise

Maybe if they didn't have 5 accounts they'd have better jobs and then they could buy ISK too Oh wait... that renders that kind of pointless too. Err...

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I'm just posting the facts.

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You're posting opinions.

I'll lay my cards on he table: I have 3 accounts. I don't believe that this is cheating.

To use a simple analogy, if I as a gazillionaire wanted to own the team that wins the European Cup of the Baseball World Series, I can increase my chances of this by bribing match officials, sabotaging other teams, inflating the market price for player contracts so that no other teams can compete for players unless they're owned by jillionaires too.

Or: I can increase my chances by not doing those things but by buying two teams!

On a side note, I would also note that having 3 accounts triples the amount of money that goes directly to CCP, making more resources available to increase server hardware, etc.

Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources.

Selling GTCs is better (although I still don't really like it much tbh) because it does give real money to CCP and it lets people play who wouldn't otherwise be able to. There comes a point though when you have individuals who sell dozens of GTCs to accumulate many billions of ISK. But I can't think of any way of stopping what must be a fairly rare event that wouldn't be worse than the problem. The same goes for people who have lots of accounts for R&D agents (such accounts are probably a major market for GTCs now that I think about it.)

Since GTC reselling has been stopped, at least GTCs can't so easily be used to launder macro/farming profits now. I do wonder if that isn't the real motivation behind so many of these threads that we see.

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I never said that "Buying ISK from ISK farming companies is simply leaching off TQ resources." s ok

I don't care about either.
I was posting community opinion.

where in my post do state that having multiple accounts is a bad thing?

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In the thread title. You make a direct comparison between buying ISK and having 3 accounts.

So what are you stating? That having 3 accounts is OK but buying ISK is OK? Or that both are cheating?

Since you've taken it upon yourself to claim that "I was posting community opinion." could you at least post it explicitly.

Do you think it is OK to buy ISK? Because I'd guess that a majority of the 'community' doesn't. In fact I'd go so far as to say that even most of the people who do buy ISK know that it isn't really OK.

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buying isk as in using the system under accounts.. yes I support this.
it's better than buying form a farmer, but as a game maker I see the problem being not the isk, but more so someone making money off of someone elses art.

your right I posted poorly.

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Originally by: Sokratesz

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First quote in the OP is mine.

I have multiple accounts. Does it give me an unfair advantage over others? Well, it could

Ever tried pvp'ing with more than one account at a time? Even with two computers thats kinda very UI#%¦#%U*# difficult and will lose you one or both ships more often than not.

Multiple accounts != Wealth. Even if you somehow managed to reliably play eve one multiple accounts at the same time you would still be limited by ISK.

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