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MOOstradamus	Posted - 2004.02.25 14:37:00 - [1] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 25/02/2004 16:10:24 Click Me: EDIT: DONE @ 16:09 GMT* * Quote: Riffix > -Most of the time the community is constantly asking the dev team for this or that. My question is, if each of you could ask something of the community, what would it be? (for all devs present) TomB > Stop calling me names and making fun of my ego :( Quote: TomB > We would like to take a moment to introduce Kieron, our new community manager. kieron > Good Morning, Afternoon, or Evening, whichever may pertain. :) kieron > Pann has moved on to a different company and I was tasked with trying to fill her shoes. MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
Orestes	Posted - 2004.02.25 14:42:00 - [2] Stickeh! Join the IC!
dalman	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:02:00 - [3] Seriously, this "post the thread before the log is available" is damn annoying M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:03:00 - [4] Quote: Seriously, this "post the thread before the log is available" is damn annoying Yeah Why? Now I'm never gonna see this thread again, gonna bookmark it so that I remember to check the CSM later
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:06:00 - [5] Quote: Seriously, this "post the thread before the log is available" is damn annoying SERIOUSLY ... I don't care as this is done at my convenience. MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:07:00 - [6] w00t, Pann left? "We brake for nobody"
Dark Stranger	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:07:00 - [7] Yah I was surfing and then in my best Homer Impression... "Oooh.. A CSM arrrrgghhh"(Drool running down the chin) Clicks Link "DOH!" 5 minutes later.... "Oooh.. A CSM arrrrgghhh"
Sybylle	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:14:00 - [8] Kieron, good luck in filling her shoes... Too bad Pann left Anyway, welcome Kieron...prepare to face the Eve community (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Hellspawn01	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:26:00 - [9] Quote: kieron > Pann has moved on to a different company and I was tasked with trying to fill her shoes. Hope to read a goodbye post here Welcome and good luck, kieron. --------------------------------------------- Eve is not game, it¦s a way of life!
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:28:00 - [10] Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 25/02/2004 15:28:47 good luck kieron, u will certainly need it! in eve u will find lots of strange beings like whiners, griefers and the fearsome of them all, the carebears! "We brake for nobody"
The Reverend	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:31:00 - [11] Good luck Keiron. Be nice to have a decent community manager. m0ovie links
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:32:00 - [12] Quote: Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 25/02/2004 15:28:47 good luck kieron, u will certainly need it! in eve u will find lots of strange beings like whiners, griefers and the fearsome of them all, the carebears! Hmmm the carebears are not EVE related Good luck kieron __________ Capacitor research
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2004.02.25 15:32:00 - [13] Quote: Quote: kieron > Pann has moved on to a different company and I was tasked with trying to fill her shoes. Hope to read a goodbye post here Welcome and good luck, kieron. Unlikely, since leaving posts aren't allowed... Anyway good luck in your new job, Pann, and welcome to Eve, Kieron Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Jebba IV	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:03:00 - [14] Quote: Seriously, this "post the thread before the log is available" is damn annoying damn straight
Phersephone	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:04:00 - [15] why dont you just post the whole thing? instead of selected comments?
Tyria Evenstar	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:07:00 - [16] Because it has only just finished.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:24:00 - [17] Quote: TomB > The next waves of T2 frigs will be so ultra special that they will be the only ones that can do specific tasks. so "normal" frigs will be totally useless couse they dont have a specific task? "We brake for nobody"
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:35:00 - [18] Quote: Quote: TomB > The next waves of T2 frigs will be so ultra special that they will be the only ones that can do specific tasks. so "normal" frigs will be totally useless couse they dont have a specific task? my thoughts exactly, that is why i dislike elite frigates, honestly it's just more treadmilling for something that should be in the game to begin with, frigates need a purpose, a tactical role, as do cruisers the current pvp system favors nothing more than battleship slugfests, i want more tactics, i want formations, i want more to eve combat than lock and shoot. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
LargeNuts	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:41:00 - [19] "Tusko Hopkins > TomB, arent these just special cases? I always thought that the cost of life in EVE was too low. No taxes, no fuel, etc. I am not a newbie, of course, I can't know what it is like being a newbie in these times, but are you sure that you are doing the right thing here?" What the H3LL is wrong with you? If I have to start paying for food and gas in EVE I am quitting this stupid game. Life should be cheap in EVE, so should ships and insurance. That might get people to actually fight more. This is a pvp game, not a RL simulator. Should we have to pay for oil changes in our ships every 3000 miles to? Jesus.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:42:00 - [20] Kieron...Kieron... sounds familar. Ahh, "Lead Event Moderator, OSI" Gotta love the MMO community. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:46:00 - [21] Quote: Kieron...Kieron... sounds familar. Ahh, "Lead Event Moderator, OSI" Gotta love the MMO community. Considering EA basically shut OSI down, it would make sense he had that resume in circulation. :) ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:48:00 - [22] Quote: Quote: TomB > The next waves of T2 frigs will be so ultra special that they will be the only ones that can do specific tasks. so "normal" frigs will be totally useless couse they dont have a specific task? Rifter and Kestrels still have an amazing amount of damage output. Until TL2 variants that are damage specific come about, they'll still have uses. After that, they can prolly be relegated to the same role as peasants in Medieval: Total War. Cheap, unskilled damage units to fill out the ranks. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Khali Nephtys	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:52:00 - [23] Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/02/2004 16:55:33 Ack never mind, I probably shouldn't say things about UO.... Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:57:00 - [24] Yes, tolling the super-highways will work. Not. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 16:58:00 - [25] why make TL2 Frigates when u can just change the Frigates we already have? why make a different "Kestrel" to become a "Bomber"? why not make the current "Kestrel" a bomber? "We brake for nobody"
Skaz	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:11:00 - [26] Ok before this crops up, this CSM was short because of a confusion on the Devs part (they thought it was tomorrow and arrived late), moderation troubles (Pann usually moderates) and of course we got a bit side tracked as was to be expected. This can all be expected when a Community Manager leaves so unexpectantly as seems to be the case. Lets hope we get a proper CSM next time with a new CM, Kieron. Because I have plenty of questions. Skaz CSM "No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..."
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:17:00 - [27] Quote: Yes, tolling the super-highways will work. Yes like I said the 'haters' (although I failed to mention the clueless ignorant idea stealers) will never be happy ... MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:19:00 - [28] Quote: Quote: Yes, tolling the super-highways will work. Yes like I said the 'haters' (although I failed to mention the clueless ignorant idea stealers) will never be happy ... The thread I posted in no way claimed to be original. I was merely raising the idea again in order to gain more discussion and see whether viewpoints have changed. Now, STFU, and go back to hauling scordite while thinking about more lame questions to ask next week. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:21:00 - [29] Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 25/02/2004 17:21:58 yeah, and next time dont post untill the CSM is finished!! "We brake for nobody"
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:44:00 - [30] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 25/02/2004 17:50:56 Admiral IceBlock: Funny how you failed to mention such dissatisfaction in your first post ... EDIT: Yes I know you did last time - but I gave my reasons then so Leech: Nor did you deny the idea to be yours or even give due credit to its originator at any time in that thread - which given the unwarranted praise that was heaped in your direction, because of it, clearly shows you to be someone of dubious nature and very much lacking in character. MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:46:00 - [31] Quote: Admiral IceBlock: Funny how you failed to mention such dissatisfaction in your first post ... i did it in the last CSM posted way b4 it was finished!! "We brake for nobody"
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:46:00 - [32] Quote: Admiral IceBlock: Funny how you failed to mention such dissatisfaction in your first post ... i did it in the last CSM posted way b4 it was finished!! "We brake for nobody"
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:53:00 - [33] Quote: why make TL2 Frigates when u can just change the Frigates we already have? why make a different "Kestrel" to become a "Bomber"? why not make the current "Kestrel" a bomber? Because everyone and their mother's brother's uncle's grandfather's niece's cousin's ex-roomate has or can get a Kestrel and making the Kestrel a bomber would provide nothing new to strive for. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:56:00 - [34] its harder to train for a "special" frig then it is to train for a battleship... it shouldnt be that way... "We brake for nobody"
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.25 17:56:00 - [35] Quote: Leech: Nor did you deny the idea to be yours or even give due credit to its originator at any time in that thread - which given the unwarranted praise that was heaped in your direction, because of it, clearly shows you to be someone of dubious nature and very much lacking in character. I'm at fault for other peoples comments now? Tell me, oh wise (and carebear) one, who the original idea belonged to and I shall duly gie credit. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2004.02.25 18:02:00 - [36] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 25/02/2004 18:04:39 Stavros first put it into detailed and well thought out words (hard to believe but true nonetheless ) in IRC back during the early stages of Beta. Well before the final/release Universe was generated I might add. And no you are not to blame simply for other people's comments - but for when you milk them without correction. MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
McWatt	Posted - 2004.02.25 18:07:00 - [37] Edited by: McWatt on 25/02/2004 18:09:02 Quote: TomB > Currently it's just a hot-fix, a better insurance system will perhabs be build later. perhaps??? wow, that s bad news!!! Quote: TomB > Best way to report a bug is to verify the bug on the test server (Chaos) TomB > Then speak to other players there or Bug Hunters to see if the issue is known or not. TomB > That I would recommend, their knowledge in fixes, known issues etc. is unbelievable. k, this is what we all knew. they throw them away. sigh. but at least TomB is telling the truth. Quote: t0rfiFrans > Well, there is a big story that's being written and it would take a lot for it to be turned 180 degrees t0rfiFrans > If we take the Crielere event, that was not scripted, pre-planned or decided t0rfiFrans > We RP'd it along depending on how the players faught, what they said, how they played. not lies like this one. Quote: TomB > The next waves of T2 frigs will be so ultra special that they will be the only ones that can do specific tasks. i don t like it too much. simple question: why? we ll see. Quote: Mr M > When the system can handle large scale battles better I think more people will use smaller ships very good remark. Quote: TomB > Mr M: l1n3n01z our optimizer just reduced server CPU by 20-40% (WE HOPE), its on Chaos now ... see if you can get it as lagged as before :) very bad answer. did any of this fixes ever hit home? reminds me of "drone lag gone". what does 20% do to 1 frame per min? looks like we need 5000% fix to me! Quote: Tyria Evenstar > can we have a proper CSM at some point then? best question of the day!!! it left me slightly bored, though i learnt a few things.
Thor Adam	Posted - 2004.02.25 18:46:00 - [38] Quote: Edited by: McWatt on 25/02/2004 18:09:02 Quote: TomB > The next waves of T2 frigs will be so ultra special that they will be the only ones that can do specific tasks. i don t like it too much. simple question: why? we ll see. Wow, good point! Why try to express your opinions when you actually don't have any? Oh and I liked the "LIES!!" part, you just know everything better than everyone don't you?
Belzavior	Posted - 2004.02.25 19:21:00 - [39] Wait till people see the reqs on elite cruisers and elite battleships. The point of the reqs on all the T2 ships and equipments is so that everybody and their brother CAN'T use them all. Is there anything whatsoever special about flying around in an apoc, scorp, or other BS other than the fact you got alot of money? How many combat pilots out there have high gunnery skills, can fly several different battleships, have high engineering, high electronic war fare, high mechanic and electronic skills? Every combat pilot out there is the bloody same as the next. That means tactics will always be the same. The same is being done for T2 gunnery skills, they requiring specializations to use the better weapons. Example of Small Lasers > Small Laser Beam Specialization, Small Laser Pulse Specialization. Yah thats alot more skills and much more opportunity to define your character rather than being the same as the next guy. As the tech lvls increase so will the need to specialize your character even more to what you want them to be. If you want to pilot every T1 ship and use any T1 modules... Great, but don't be surprised when a guy piloting some High Tech (T4+) specialized Frig will Toast your BS.
Winterblink	Posted - 2004.02.25 19:36:00 - [40] Quote: Riffix > -Most of the time the community is constantly asking the dev team for this or that. My question is, if each of you could ask something of the community, what would it be? (for all devs present) TomB > Stop calling me names and making fun of my ego :( LOL! TomB buddy, you gotta know I was just kidding... O:-) ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Jayad	Posted - 2004.02.25 23:22:00 - [41] Quote: why make TL2 Frigates when u can just change the Frigates we already have? why make a different "Kestrel" to become a "Bomber"? why not make the current "Kestrel" a bomber? EXACTLY iceblock, i totally agree, quite upset by the remarks on T2 Frigs. We'll have to wait and see, but i see nothing thats going to FORCE!! fleets to use Frigs atm
Redundancy	Posted - 2004.02.26 01:38:00 - [42] Edited by: Redundancy on 26/02/2004 01:39:40 Quote: Quote: TomB > Mr M: l1n3n01z our optimizer just reduced server CPU by 20-40% (WE HOPE), its on Chaos now ... see if you can get it as lagged as before :) very bad answer. did any of this fixes ever hit home? reminds me of "drone lag gone". what does 20% do to 1 frame per min? looks like we need 5000% fix to me! Chaos is actually performing significantly better than before based on what we've seen so far. I can understand cynicism, but I don't think it's particularly merited in this case. Redundancy
Rinji	Posted - 2004.02.26 02:35:00 - [43] Quote: Edited by: Redundancy on 26/02/2004 01:39:40 Quote: Quote: TomB > Mr M: l1n3n01z our optimizer just reduced server CPU by 20-40% (WE HOPE), its on Chaos now ... see if you can get it as lagged as before :) very bad answer. did any of this fixes ever hit home? reminds me of "drone lag gone". what does 20% do to 1 frame per min? looks like we need 5000% fix to me! Chaos is actually performing significantly better than before based on what we've seen so far. I can understand cynicism, but I don't think it's particularly merited in this case. Aye, Chaos has been quite peppy of late. Vice Admiral Rinji Morisato Logistics Division Commanding Officer of Logistics Division
StealthNet	Posted - 2004.02.26 05:04:00 - [44] Quote: As the tech lvls increase so will the need to specialize your character even more to what you want them to be. If you want to pilot every T1 ship and use any T1 modules... Great, but don't be surprised when a guy piloting some High Tech (T4+) specialized Frig will Toast your BS. I can spot a problem with that. Currently, there is no official "way" to tell what will happen in 6 months (no plans, no guidelines, no roadmap etc). Im not saying thats necessarily a bad thing, but look, we are talking about specialization, something that requires planning. Making ppl believe that they need to specialize in something that might change completely in 1 month is kinda stupid. There is no point in specialization, since most players will try to be the best at a specific area. But there are no "areas": there is simply an overall understanding of a principle and then everyone and their dog train for that. ... but that principle changes from major patch to major patch and that kills the purpose with specialization, since the skills required to achieve proper focus require weeks of training. If you need an example of that, look at DCM. Require a low level of specialization with no return. As I can see, future skill paths will require much more effort than training 2 chained skills to 5. The idea around (as I understood from the devs) is that specialization will be something so deep and important that will define your char permanently. But how can I decide what is better for me without proper info ? Will I need to "guess" ? Im not in the gambling game, thats why I don't boost RD missions too much. I want to have a basic information do decide wether or not / where I want or not to specialize in something, and not simply making a decision that can potentialy be a bad idea in 2 or 6 months and render my char useless for some purpose I want without any chance to catch up, because something changed in the game that rendered my efforts useless. It already happened, and further recurrences will have deeper consequences. Also, I noticed that things are getting balanced because there wasn't much thought about the upcoming releases. Let's say that before castor, a specific module gives you an X bonus, and that the top offmarket related module gives you X1.4. Now, with TL2, it appears that there is a general idea that the default market module needs to be something better than the best TL1 offmarket one. I think some of you already got where we are going. I was discussing this issue with some corp mates last night and it really bothers me. So, when TL3 or 4 hits the game, there will be modules that will be utimately uber ^ 10. What I ask is, please, pay more attention to these issues, because constant nerfing of things on a tumbling across basis really **es people off. For the trollers, don't come with the old "overcome and adapt". There are basic things that must NOT change, and people actually decide things based on those. Finding out that you made a bad decision because you are a bad strategist is one thing, you overcome, learn, adapt, but finding out that your decision was useless because you were not able to guess what would change in the next patch is another story. Chaos ? I will not mention it any further; there are 40k subscribers out there, that simply won't fit in a 32 capped server Trying to keep this post a single one, I would like to talk about personalization. There aren't any levels of personalization in eve. The most you can do is "sort by name" or "sort by type" in your hangar, put names on ships that only your security officers will see, name cans that are used to litter space around newbie stations and jumpgates, or create your char once*, never touch it again and only be able to see other ppl great work if you right click them and capture their protrait. People want a place they would call home, not a standard background in stations with a 1-size-fits-all approach. People want to personalize their ships, change the environment around them, do plastic surgeries, maybe even rent a room in a station where they can read the news, write a diary, log into a global trade network or access the stock market. Thats a long shot, but Im sure you can think of a lot of cool things to personalize and leave your "StealthNet was here". Ill end this, or Ill keep writing into the night _______________________________________________
Exitwound	Posted - 2004.02.26 05:36:00 - [45] TomB expects us to test on Chaos before submitting a bug? Check with bug hunters before submitting a bug? Hello? Most game companies have proper support with tickets being opened and tech support replying to the tickets.
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.02.26 10:42:00 - [46] Quote: Edited by: MOOstradamus on 25/02/2004 16:10:24 Click Me: EDIT: DONE @ 16:09 GMT* * Quote: Riffix > -Most of the time the community is constantly asking the dev team for this or that. My question is, if each of you could ask something of the community, what would it be? (for all devs present) TomB > Stop calling me names and making fun of my ego :( Quote: TomB > We would like to take a moment to introduce Kieron, our new community manager. kieron > Good Morning, Afternoon, or Evening, whichever may pertain. :) kieron > Pann has moved on to a different company and I was tasked with trying to fill her shoes. but but but, pann :'( --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
McWatt	Posted - 2004.02.26 10:44:00 - [47] Edited by: McWatt on 26/02/2004 10:47:38 Quote: Wow, good point! Why try to express your opinions when you actually don't have any? don t need to repeat points made already by someone posting before me, do i? while i do agree on a need to give elite frigs specials so that they get used at all at their horrific prices, i d rather have more usefullness added to all frigates before we go moving on. Quote: Oh and I liked the "LIES!!" part, you just know everything better than everyone don't you? had some bad thoughts after this remark as soon as i left the computer. but i was commenting my first thoughts after reading the log. the pure fact that the event was held in empire space killed any "open end". if you read torfi s comments on it carefully ("we didn t expect players to show up" <--> "not ... decided")you will notice that they make little sense. events need to be planned if you want players to have some influence. you need to pre-decide what kind of actions will have what kind of effect. what they do makes little sense, and what they tell about it afterwards simply isn t the truth. Quote: Chaos is actually performing significantly better than before based on what we've seen so far. I can understand cynicism, but I don't think it's particularly merited in this case. exactly the same was said about drone lag. (check old threads if you want to) the situation today is that oponents agree on not using drones at all in big conflicts!!! we ll see, i say!
sutty	Posted - 2004.02.26 12:04:00 - [48] also, Pann gone to a company that made linage, no idea what its called, but thats where she has gone.
Miriel Arkonis	Posted - 2004.02.26 15:36:00 - [49] Quote: also, Pann gone to a company that made linage, no idea what its called, but thats where she has gone. Lineage? NCSoft is currently working on Lineage2 for north american release. I guess that means she got a job at NCAustin, she's from Texas so thats convenient.
Lucas De'Thal	Posted - 2004.02.27 08:17:00 - [50] NCSoft is also doing City of Heroes...... by the way, the new insurance thing is fine. whatever brings in and keeps new people playing is a good thing. As many have said, they play games to have fun....not to pretend they have another full time job. ______________________________________________ Hellmar > sorry for the attitude, playing a n00b character through the current state just left me a bit bitter dev chat: Mar 18, 2004 hellmar> "you lot are just so clever you have a good history for out smarting us :-S " dev chat: Feb 12, 2004
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.03.01 14:49:00 - [51] I said this before. They should have the ability to test on chaos as a seperate pgm for down load. it would do everything for you. The login should know if you are coming from live or test. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.03.02 11:57:00 - [52] Quote: had some bad thoughts after this remark as soon as i left the computer. but i was commenting my first thoughts after reading the log. the pure fact that the event was held in empire space killed any "open end". if you read torfi s comments on it carefully ("we didn t expect players to show up" <--> "not ... decided")you will notice that they make little sense. events need to be planned if you want players to have some influence. you need to pre-decide what kind of actions will have what kind of effect. what they do makes little sense, and what they tell about it afterwards simply isn t the truth. No need to defend your opinion about the storyline and it's implementation. You are right. Lies and very poor performance on that aspect of tha game. If you go back to all the previous CSMs and even all the way back to the very beginning and statements they made concerning the storyline you 'll see that lies is far from inappropriate. Basically the inability to interact with the world, the factions and the story in a convincing way destroys the immersiveness this game could provide. Pain is meant to be felt
Robskiwarrior	Posted - 2004.03.02 12:46:00 - [53] omg, Pann, shes an institution! The mother of EvE! OH SWEET LIFE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo A sad day. BUT. Welcome kieron to the best job in the world. :p Hope you have fun :D
McWatt	Posted - 2004.03.02 20:53:00 - [54] Edited by: McWatt on 02/03/2004 20:56:12 Quote: Basically the inability to interact with the world, the factions and the story in a convincing way destroys the immersiveness this game could provide. thx juan. and very well said. my excuse was mostly because i knew i should have explained myself better as it looks like one can simply not expect ppl to think about what they read. the general scheme behind events looks like this to me: 1. there s the general claim that events happen regularly (weekly!) and that players have a stong influence on them and storyline. 2. then comes the down-play phase. any (rare) event happening is done by aurora, polaris, players or the graphic department. it s not a "full" event, only "little resources could be invested", real thing upcoming soon. (this is mostly to excuse for the rather regular trouble in holding them as well as the restricted number of participants) 3. in the aftermath (year overview, newsletter) this very same happenings show up as major events again, all limits seem to be forgotten. i completly agree, something very different is necessary to make the world of eve feel alive. oh and btw, again this "most important feedback" to the devs is lingering at 3 pages. sad.
Jazzatola	Posted - 2004.03.03 11:58:00 - [55] Is there another CSM chat scheduled for today?
Tyria Evenstar	Posted - 2004.03.03 13:36:00 - [56] Quote: Is there another CSM chat scheduled for today? To the best of my knowledge (I'm in it) it is. Expect a new topic by MOO when it starts. -Tyria.

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