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Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:09:00 - [1] - Quote Hello. I was in doubt about posting this here on ir the Technology Lab but since isn't some new feature I think here is the right place, please correct me if I'm wrong. Well, what I have is kind of a complain. To get a Jump Clone you need Standing >= 8, why the hell is that much? This is keeping me away from playing PVP and therefore CCP is not having profits with Plex sells, and Im pretty sure Im not the only one in this situation. I'm not too much of a mission player, and risinig standings to 8 takes a life and Im only doing that to be able to use a jumpclone and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Specially because there are some pretty cheap ships outthere, but a good implant costs 100mil. And I have my implants since the early days of my char because a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants. Why not offering jumpclones in a different way? This Jumpclone system should evolve - players could get faster in the PVP world. Well, Im almost getting my 8 in standings, so this complain isn't anymore about me, hope this can help other players that like me are frustrated with the JumpClone requirements. regards ps: sorry for the typos
Ammzi Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow 767	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:10:00 - [2] - Quote Just join another corporation to get your jumpclone? quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 295	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:10:00 - [3] - Quote Holy crap the whining! If you are THAT adverse to losing some implants, join a clone corp and get one. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif
Pyrosomniac The Scope Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:12:00 - [4] - Quote 1) Get a friend 2) Run level 4 missions with him 3) Share the profits 4) ??? 5) Profit You can do this less than 2 months into the game if you can get your hands on a battleship, and if you run a couple of missions a day your wallet and standings will skyrocket.
Doc Fury Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 309	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:13:00 - [5] - Quote It's an Idea you have for the game, and thus it belongs in the Features and Ideas Discussion forum. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.'
Ocih Space Mermaids 67	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:16:00 - [6] - Quote As others have said, some with social skills, some not so much, Any player outpost can provide clones at 10K ISK I think and it's based on standings. R3-K7K They will charge you10 mill last time I was there but that's not a great deal of ISK. It will take you longer to get someone in channel to set you up than get the ISK.
Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:18:00 - [7] - Quote Thank you all for the fast response... but I disagree with the answers. Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view. so 1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp regards
Joe Kaperski Paragon. SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:20:00 - [8] - Quote The only place you should need a PVP clone is nullsec. Join a nullsec alliance. If you're loosing pods in highsec/lowsec, Doinitwrong.
Eternus8lux8lucis Whack-A-Mole 49	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:21:00 - [9] - Quote http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1400554 Open link... Follow instructions. Clones for nothing. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
baltec1 483	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:22:00 - [10] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: Thank you all for the fast response... but I disagree with the answers. Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view. so 1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp regards Yea EVE doesn't do instant gratification.
Ocih Space Mermaids 67	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:30:00 - [11] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Commander Karin wrote: Thank you all for the fast response... but I disagree with the answers. Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view. so 1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp regards Yea EVE doesn't do instant gratification. Meaning 2 years less a day. Also called a prison sentence. Still, there are options and the trouble with standings is, they aren't an exclusive reward. Giving you 8.00 in a month affords you much more than free clones. You get to reproc and refine with no penalty, you get full mission access, you get cheap manufacturing. You get alot of benefits.
CausticS0da Viziam Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2012.01.25 18:56:00 - [12] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: Thank you all for the fast response... but I disagree with the answers. Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view. so 1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp regards What's the rush? Seriously people like you will kill Eve. Crawl back to whatever MMO you came from please.
Zoloft Rx Forged Prophets 0	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:00:00 - [13] - Quote plex for jumpclones anyone?
Sarmatiko 469	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:02:00 - [14] - Quote You can rise standing to 8 in one day doing COSMOS +10-15 lvl 4 missions for desired npc corporation. If you need "faster" or you have another childish complain - JUST PAY ISK to people who can provide standing increase service.
Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:04:00 - [15] - Quote CausticS0da wrote: Commander Karin wrote: Thank you all for the fast response... but I disagree with the answers. Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view. so 1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp regards What's the rush? Seriously people like you will kill Eve. Crawl back to whatever MMO you came from please. First people like YOU will kill EVE with you mentality and attitude. I came from no other MMO and play EVE for about 2 years and I'm going very good. When you say people like me you loose any respect I could have for you. This is typical preconception speech. Please, go back for the MMO you came, by your attitude you should have age to play WoW (probabily)
Ocih Space Mermaids 67	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:06:00 - [16] - Quote Zoloft Rx wrote: plex for jumpclones anyone? I'd rather use PvE dog tags or something else not being used in game but Aurum works too.
Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:09:00 - [17] - Quote why in the hell are you all so ******* angry? Have your mom not feed you when you're a baby? Seriously, why can't you just arguee and discuss like grown up people. Looks like Im hurting someone talking about jump clone standings.... tsc tsc and Im the one been childish here ps: sorry this is not meant for those who know how to chat and discuss something.
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc 205	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:22:00 - [18] - Quote lol if you are looking for civilized discussion on the EVE Online forums, you will be VERY VERY VERY dissapointed. Too bad too, because EVE Online players are some of the smartest gamers I've seen. Not talking about everyone of course Some EVE online players are dumb as **** and some are REALLY nice and helpful people.
Lili Lu 150	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:35:00 - [19] - Quote Karin, It's been this way forever. And considering how long it took to skill into level 4 missioning years ago it was an even more daunting hill to climb back then. However, that's just it it is a hill that must be climbed. And, really the game is about the climbing, not as much about the summit. One thing though, make sure the npc corp you decide to get standing with has a station with a medbay. Check them out on Dotlan. I didn't realize this and got to 8 with a corp that didn't have a medbay I was But then I realized that the faction standings meant I didn't have the climb the entire hill again You could post this in the Features and Ideas section of the forums, or on the CSM subforum. It is a pretty high hurdle, and considering how many things have been made easier in the game, especially for new players, you might get a good CCP response. Whether that is a good thing for the game I'm not so sure. Regards, LiLu
Tian Nu Ministry of War Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:37:00 - [20] - Quote Genji is what i used to get JC many pilots use that guy is one time fee of 5mill. gl in youre PVP adventures.
Cindy Marco Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:37:00 - [21] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: Hello. I was in doubt about posting this here on ir the Technology Lab but since isn't some new feature I think here is the right place, please correct me if I'm wrong. Well, what I have is kind of a complain. To get a Jump Clone you need Standing >= 8, why the hell is that much? This is keeping me away from playing PVP and therefore CCP is not having profits with Plex sells, and Im pretty sure Im not the only one in this situation. I'm not too much of a mission player, and risinig standings to 8 takes a life and Im only doing that to be able to use a jumpclone and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Specially because there are some pretty cheap ships outthere, but a good implant costs 100mil. And I have my implants since the early days of my char because a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants. Why not offering jumpclones in a different way? This Jumpclone system should evolve - players could get faster in the PVP world. Well, Im almost getting my 8 in standings, so this complain isn't anymore about me, hope this can help other players that like me are frustrated with the JumpClone requirements. regards ps: sorry for the typos Grinding corp standings isn't that hard. Especially if your willing to pay/or have a friend that has high standings already. Keep in mind that corp size DOES matter ALOT. Make sure a corp has medical, then check its size. The bigger it is the lower standing gains are. Trust me, I just grinded up on another new character with 2 corps. I know it can be done fast. If its that hard for you have someone get you the standing. It takes well under a day for someone to get you access to all level 4s for a corp. At that point you have 2 options. 1)Continue to let the person with standings split with you until you hit 8.0. Its alot slower but you only have to be logged on, you can be totally afk. 2)Start taking the missions in your own name and blitz them. It shouldn't take more then a day to get 8.0 at this point if you have a good mission ship, and good social skills. Edit If you really can't find anyone I have a empty corp high sec POS corp no one has bought yet. I could let you join it for a few days. It has access to Jump Clones in Heimatar. No charge, but if you don't leave within 4 days I would have to kick you out.
Rixiu North Star Networks The Kadeshi 90	Posted - 2012.01.25 19:57:00 - [22] - Quote You don't need standings for jump clones as there are multiple ways to get them without them. 1. Join one of the "jump clone corps", check sell order forums for more info. It's free. 2. Get a friend with a rorq or that guy who does it using the rorquals clone vat bay (check sell order forums). 3. Find a "freeport" in 0.0, Chribba used to operate one in 9UY- in providence but it's no longer in his hands. If you're not red to CVA ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Curatores_Veritatis_Alliance ) you can probably use one of their stations but I've never done it and don't know if you can make clones. I know my alliance keep a useless station open to everyone ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/ZQ-Z3Y ) and I assume you can create clones there but there's probably a docking fee (use a covert ops or something small). No need to grind standings at all...
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 25	Posted - 2012.01.25 20:02:00 - [23] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Wnat the hell is loosing and lossing? Geez learn some bloody English AND quit whining you sound like a dork...
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.25 20:20:00 - [24] - Quote Join a corp and get jump clones Personal standings need to stay the way they are. They are keeping hi-sec missions in check and stopping them from becoming extremely overpowered, and that is coming from a Hi-sec mission runner. I think the grind for standings is at an appropriate level.
Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.25 22:30:00 - [25] - Quote Doc Severide wrote: Commander Karin wrote: and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Wnat the hell is loosing and lossing? Geez learn some bloody English AND quit whining you sound like a dork... woot?
MadMuppet Kerguelen Station 97	Posted - 2012.01.25 23:27:00 - [26] - Quote http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1400554 ^^^ This is what I have done with every toon I've made. Its free and easy. -Mad I know I left a battleship in this station. Wait, you can put ships in Station Containers? ****! I just trashed them.
Lady Spank Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 1267	Posted - 2012.01.25 23:59:00 - [27] - Quote There are many options, you just refuse to employ them. Dumb. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Ris Dnalor Black Rebel Rifter Club 168	Posted - 2012.01.26 03:23:00 - [28] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: Hello. I was in doubt about posting this here on ir the Technology Lab but since isn't some new feature I think here is the right place, please correct me if I'm wrong. Well, what I have is kind of a complain. To get a Jump Clone you need Standing >= 8, why the hell is that much? This is keeping me away from playing PVP and therefore CCP is not having profits with Plex sells, and Im pretty sure Im not the only one in this situation. I'm not too much of a mission player, and risinig standings to 8 takes a life and Im only doing that to be able to use a jumpclone and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Specially because there are some pretty cheap ships outthere, but a good implant costs 100mil. And I have my implants since the early days of my char because a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants. Why not offering jumpclones in a different way? This Jumpclone system should evolve - players could get faster in the PVP world. Well, Im almost getting my 8 in standings, so this complain isn't anymore about me, hope this can help other players that like me are frustrated with the JumpClone requirements. regards ps: sorry for the typos the standings grind is ******* horrible. I'd love to get me some standings, but there is going to have to be an easier way. Yes, CCP, I remember bribing the agents to get my gallente standing, and I want to do that again, pls.
The Geoman Anarchos Syndicate 0	Posted - 2012.01.26 04:10:00 - [29] - Quote OP: If you think grinding corp standings is rough, try faction standings. You can burn through 16 missions for your corp, only to get a storyline that will make your faction standings barely move in some cases (Materials for War Preparation, anyone?).
Alaric Faelen Aquila Venatici Bringers of Death. 49	Posted - 2012.01.26 04:14:00 - [30] - Quote I don't know why the grind is so ridiculous. As I've said, the cliche "never fly what you can't afford to lose" really means implants. Ships, even shiny ones, come and go. But losing a noggin full of implants can set toons back months. Worse, it's especially hard on newer players- the very group of people you need to cut some slack. The group of people everyone keeps saying they want to herd towards PvP. The very group that too often gets stuck in a PvE rut out of fear of losing the dozens of hours of PvE (like missions for LP) to get those implants. How many more people would at least get out and try PvP if there wasn't a crazy PvE grind just to be able to 'afford' PvP? It seems that Eve really front-loads the cover charge to get into the PvP club, which is counter-intuitive. I'm not saying implants should be safe from loss- just that all these people are angry at care bears hiding in stations or never leaving high sec. People complain about the lack of targets in low and null. But by halving the standing requirement for JC's- people could afford to just 'dabble' in PvP if they wanted. More PvP'ers, more targets. More fun. I thought the goal was more people shooting each other- so why the ridiculous hoop to jump just to make it feasible? There are corps that offer free JC service- but that's a work-around precisely because the current standing requirement is excessive. At least for me, the moment I got JC, this entire game changed. I ran straight for the Frig Fry and sat there to be podded so I wouldn't have to fly a ton of jumps back to grab another ship. Remember- "you are not your ship" ...........but you ARE that toon with the lazy eye and a small fortune in circuitry stapled to that squishy thing between your ears.
Caellach Marellus Nephtys Ventures inc 406	Posted - 2012.01.26 04:26:00 - [31] - Quote 8.0 is not hard to reach, especially considering you have.. A: Skills that artificially increase your standings. B: Skills that increase your standing gains per mission run. It just requires a bit of time and patience, and hitting 8.0 within a month is not hard. If you need the instant gratification, just pay a boosting service.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 54	Posted - 2012.01.26 05:15:00 - [32] - Quote What Cael said. Also, your excuse of not wanting to leave your corp is a little silly, because you're in the dumped-out-of-player-corp NPC corporation for your character's bloodline. Join a JC service corp (Estel Arador, etc.), set up your jump clones, leave that corp, and hey look, you're back in Native Freshfood. Problem solved - you have your JCs without having spent time grinding for standings, and you're still in a corp with people you like. It doesn't even take that long to do when you're in an NPC corporation, because you don't have any roles or stasis timers to wait out.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 901	Posted - 2012.01.26 05:17:00 - [33] - Quote Pyrosomniac wrote: 1) Get a friend 2) Run level 4 missions with him 3) Share the profits 4) ??? 5) Profit You can do this less than 2 months into the game if you can get your hands on a battleship, and if you run a couple of missions a day your wallet and standings will skyrocket. this is the way to go you can bust out standing in short order if you fleet with someone running high level missions for that corp The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Melissa Telvani Melissa Jumpclones INC 0	Posted - 2012.01.26 07:16:00 - [34] - Quote This is mostly a repetition of what other stated, but your post made me a bit frustrated. Why do people feel they should get things for free? Firstly, raising your standings to 8.0 with a npc corp is not hard. Do your homework. If you arent there in a few weeks of casual missioning you are doing smt wrong. Secondly, as several people tried pointing out for you there are numerous other ways to do this. Joining another corp is just one of those ways. IF you do not want to change corp, well sad to say honey, but tough luck. I would like my own Outpost named after me, but I really dont wanna go through all the buildingtime, gathering all the minerals and all that. I think CCP should make it easier. A silly comparison, I agree, but nevertheless exactly the same thing. When I wanted my first jumpclone back in the days to go out explore lowsec, guess what I did? See my corpname? Work with the game, dont work against it.
Jas Dor Republic University Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2012.01.26 07:29:00 - [35] - Quote Have you considered a Rorq with a clone bay?
Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.26 08:19:00 - [36] - Quote Morwen Lagann wrote: What Cael said. Also, your excuse of not wanting to leave your corp is a little silly, because you're in the dumped-out-of-player-corp NPC corporation for your character's bloodline. Join a JC service corp (Estel Arador, etc.), set up your jump clones, leave that corp, and hey look, you're back in Native Freshfood. Problem solved - you have your JCs without having spent time grinding for standings, and you're still in a corp with people you like. It doesn't even take that long to do when you're in an NPC corporation, because you don't have any roles or stasis timers to wait out. No, this is just an alt. Alaric gets what I'm trying to make you all understand. Jezz I'm not asking in any moment how to fast increase the standings or how do I increase my standings or that Im whining about that. I ******* KNOW HOW TO INCREASE THE STANDINGS! I'm talking about THE SYSTEM. It should be more intuitive and faster for player to get in the PVP world. It took me forever because I was not the usual mission runner. Its sad when friends call you to fight and you can't because you will be risking 500mil in implants (which are much for some players). And have more, I dare to say that Jumpclones should be a built in feature of any player since the begning. It have its own penalts already regards
Ai Shun 183	Posted - 2012.01.26 10:27:00 - [37] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: I ***** KNOW HOW TO INCREASE THE STANDINGS! I'm talking about THE SYSTEM. Ahem. Commander Karin wrote: why in the hell are you all so ***** angry? Have your mom not feed you when you're a baby? What did your mom not feed you? On the Jump Clone thing; I'd like to point out a few things: (a) There are a number of pilots disagreeing with you. Throwing a tantrum won't convince them. In fact, you may want to recognize that the majority of respondents thus far understand and appreciate the system as it is now. They do not necessarily like what you are suggesting. (b) EVE is a game of choices and of risks. You choose to ignore your options. This does not mean the system is broken. There are pilots that engage in PvP without any barriers. You can CHOOSE to do things differently. You don't. That does not make the system bad. It just makes it bad for you, who CHOOSES to remain inflexible.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 663	Posted - 2012.01.26 10:40:00 - [38] - Quote Caldari COSMOS 'nuff said Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too!
Caerno Caeye Assault Technologies Solar Assault Fleet 2	Posted - 2012.01.26 10:46:00 - [39] - Quote all this maoning and you can get standings higher than 8 with any corp for jump clones within 2 weeks! I know because i done it! Your moaning that 2 weeks is too long! The door is that way >>>>>
Solstice Project Cult of Personality 1279	Posted - 2012.01.26 10:50:00 - [40] - Quote Confirming that working towards a goal is, of course, something that nobody should be bothered with. shakeshead lazy ass. Also: ***** coward with no balls hiding behind an alt. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire**
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 196	Posted - 2012.01.26 11:00:00 - [41] - Quote Estel Arador Corp Services [EACS] Join this corporation for up to four days, get jump clone. No fuss, no muss, no ISK. You can tell the know-it-alls from the clueless-but-babbling-anyway by whether they know this little bit of information or not. BTW, if you "don't want to leave your corp", or can't arrange a reinvite after you get your jumpclone, enjoy the long way 'round. HOWEVER, if your corpmates didn't refer you to this, they may need to use the service too. Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold.
Aggressive Nutmeg 97	Posted - 2012.01.26 11:08:00 - [42] - Quote I recently moved to a new region and set up operations in a certain system. It took me all of 2 days in a ******* Drake to work through the L2/L3/L4 agents to get my standings up with the local corp. If anything, being able to get L4 agents + benefits so quickly needs to be addressed. It should take LONGER! Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Reilly Duvolle Hydra Squadron 269	Posted - 2012.01.26 11:14:00 - [43] - Quote If you dont want to join a JC corp, there are ways of grinding standings WAY faster than doing regular missions. First, you have the COSMOS Missions. You get Caldrari faction standing both from the Caldari and the Amarr COSMOS missions Second, and even more efficiently, you can get 8.0 standings in a few days (less tha a week) running factional warfare missions. You dont need to leave your corp, if the corp joins the militia. Good luck.
Commander Karin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.01.26 11:15:00 - [44] - Quote After reading some responses I must say I'm off this thread. ...And that you are right, if most people are against so be it. The idea Fail. But seriously, many pilots here need to learn how to discuss, and of course, read... oh, and learn to read as many times its necessary something until understand what has being told. And this is why I'm off this thread, and some people still ask why Im using an alt to post, you must be kidding me, have you looked to your attitude? o/ gone! ps: Thanks for those who care about talking like civilized people.
Jagga Spikes Spikes Chop Shop 64	Posted - 2012.01.26 11:26:00 - [45] - Quote Estel Arador Corp Service for everyone's jump clone needs. definitely one of the greatest player-created service in EVE.
Taint A Pack Of Wolfes 29	Posted - 2012.01.26 11:42:00 - [46] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: CausticS0da wrote: Commander Karin wrote: Thank you all for the fast response... but I disagree with the answers. Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view. so 1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp regards What's the rush? Seriously people like you will kill Eve. Crawl back to whatever MMO you came from please. First people like YOU will kill EVE with you mentality and attitude. I came from no other MMO and play EVE for about 2 years and I'm going very good. When you say people like me you loose any respect I could have for you. This is typical preconception speech. Please, go back for the MMO you came, by your attitude you should have age to play WoW (probabily) its you whos the idiot, leave the game if you cant play it like the rest of us tbh.
Kayleigh Lothian The Risen corp NEM3SIS. 3	Posted - 2012.01.26 12:20:00 - [47] - Quote Jebus. Get Social skills READ! about data centers Buy tags Get Bacon Do the last few lvl 4 missions with a q20 agent HTFU
Gerald Taric F-H Schwerindustrie und Sicherheit KRAUTZ-FEDERATION 29	Posted - 2012.01.26 13:10:00 - [48] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: [...] a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants. No. I didn't. But i have "good" implants. I consider my character being reasonable good skilled (not: "best"). And i'm proud of reaching my goals without the need to put additional RL cash into PLEX in order to convert them to ISKis. I don't like it to make things easier, because some people have trouble with reaching certain goals. Where will the challenge be then? Get some friends/corporation members and reach the new goal "good standing with [ ??? ]" Good luck.
Ned Black Driders 11	Posted - 2012.01.26 14:33:00 - [49] - Quote I would rather have them remove JCs entirely... but thats just me...
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 280	Posted - 2012.01.26 15:26:00 - [50] - Quote Run the Data Center missions if you have the cash for the Tags involved: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_center Brought my Ammatar Mandate Standings from 1.66 to 5.1 in a 36 hour time period, so I could anchor my Tower in Ammatar. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 280	Posted - 2012.01.26 15:28:00 - [51] - Quote Kayleigh Lothian wrote: Jebus. Get Social skills These help with agent standings and all, but for Tower anchoring and other important mechaniocs, it is based on the ACTUAL standing, not the 'virtual' standing from Connections Skill, etc. Jump Clone does takes the 'virtual' though. Just to be crystal CLEAR...... OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Jalmari Huitsikko draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 21	Posted - 2012.01.26 15:36:00 - [52] - Quote get rifter fly to player owned 0.0 station which is open to everyone buy jump clone trololo profit???
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 25	Posted - 2012.01.26 17:16:00 - [53] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: After reading some responses I must say I'm off this thread. ...And that you are right, if most people are against so be it. The idea Fail. But seriously, many pilots here need to learn how to discuss, and of course, read... oh, and learn to read as many times its necessary something until understand what has being told. And this is why I'm off this thread, and some people still ask why Im using an alt to post, you must be kidding me, have you looked to your attitude? o/ gone! ps: Thanks for those who care about talking like civilized people. Are you still lossing stuff?
Caellach Marellus Nephtys Ventures inc 409	Posted - 2012.01.26 22:24:00 - [54] - Quote Commander Karin wrote: I'm talking about THE SYSTEM. The system is fine. By the time you have clones worth a damn and expensive implants in your head, you should have an 8.0 with someone. If not, you should have the means capable to work at it fast already at your disposal.
Kayleigh Lothian The Risen corp NEM3SIS. 3	Posted - 2012.01.31 13:33:00 - [55] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Kayleigh Lothian wrote: Jebus. Get Social skills These help with agent standings and all, but for Tower anchoring and other important mechaniocs, it is based on the ACTUAL standing, not the 'virtual' standing from Connections Skill, etc. Jump Clone does takes the 'virtual' though. Just to be crystal CLEAR...... Yes, but: Social Skill at social interaction. 5% bonus per level to NPC agent, corporation and faction standing increase. So needing to do less lvl 4s after the datacenter dance to get to 8.0.
Imuran Zentor Industries 10	Posted - 2012.01.31 14:29:00 - [56] - Quote Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1400554 Open link... Follow instructions. Clones for nothing. This
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 293	Posted - 2012.01.31 14:55:00 - [57] - Quote Kayleigh Lothian wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Kayleigh Lothian wrote: Jebus. Get Social skills These help with agent standings and all, but for Tower anchoring and other important mechaniocs, it is based on the ACTUAL standing, not the 'virtual' standing from Connections Skill, etc. Jump Clone does takes the 'virtual' though. Just to be crystal CLEAR...... Yes, but: Social Skill at social interaction. 5% bonus per level to NPC agent, corporation and faction standing increase. So needing to do less lvl 4s after the datacenter dance to get to 8.0. Datacenters raise BOTH Faction and it's Corps.....and others. Doing Amarr/Ammatar raised both Khanid Kingdom and Khanid Works to 2.0........and I've never done a thing for them or even been to Khanid. Go figure............ OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"

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