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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:35:00 -
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Captian Blingtooth wrote:I appreciate all the information and walls of text. I've been doing PI and ice mining, producing fuel blocks lately.
I have a question, with regular ice we get a surplus of isotopes and hvy water refining the ice and making blocks. The isotopes go to feed jump drives, but what about the water? Doesn't this mean that the price of hvy water will fall to almost nothing? Do the higher grade ices from lowsec/null balance it out?
Thanks in advance.
Yeah only major HW consumer is the roqual for ice compression. and since they can not enter high sec they generally use the excess HW available in null.
I would love to see the ratio of LO to HW switched to balance the high sec ice. In high sec Liquid Ozone is needed for both POS fuel and jump frieghters. Heavy Water has no use I know of in high sec other than POS fuel. No demand for the surplus produced means a useless product that is worthless to sell.
there are null sec ice's specific to each ice product as well as higher yield versions of high sec ice. So in null you can mine the specific ice you need to gett 1000 units per block of the specific ice product you need.
Dark glitter is the highest value ice as it is the one that yields 1000 units of Liquid Ozone per block. |
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.29 05:13:00 -
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I spent most of the weekend figuring out a few setups for fuel production using different PI setups, planet choices, etc. I wont post it here since its a lot of info but here the basics.
Even with a sub par setup using 5 planets (no plasma) and only command center upgrades 3 a player would be able to generate somewhere between 1 - 4.75 fuel block runs per hour. With my new setup I have worked this out to a possible 5 to 9 fuel block runs per hour. This would cover all pi materials.
Ignoring the ice requirements and assuming the low end output from a well setup planet making 5 fuel block runs per hour it comes to 120 fuel block runs per day, or 4800 blocks of fuel, good enough for 5 days of fuel (at 40 blocks per hour).
So in 30 days you could generate the PI mats for 144000 fuel blocks or 155 days (5 months). This means 1 player could supply fuel for 5 large towers for 1 year each (assuming fuel use of 40 per hour).
So no team of PI alts, you can get buy on just one.
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GreenSeed
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Posted - 2012.02.29 05:49:00 -
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i think the OP needs to red the BPO carefully.
i also think that the LO hole will get to a critical point in the next 2 - 3 months , but besides price going 3x what it is now, nothing else will happen. i mean its not like ppl will go mine the low sec varian with high volumes of LO.  |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:49:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
That means TONS more fuel consumption required than ever needed before, and it is indeed going to be in short supply.
Doubt it. I wouldn't be suprised to find that highsec produces excess isotopes, and not enough water/ozone, and that shortfall is made up by people with access to the special null ices, and there is already a profit vs mining regular ice - ie the mechanism and players are already in place.
And guess who makes the money and will SPIKE THE PRICE of Liquid O ?? The NullBears.
Nice trolling though.................
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:50:00 -
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Captian Blingtooth wrote:I appreciate all the information and walls of text. I've been doing PI and ice mining, producing fuel blocks lately.
I have a question, with regular ice we get a surplus of isotopes and hvy water refining the ice and making blocks. The isotopes go to feed jump drives, but what about the water? Doesn't this mean that the price of hvy water will fall to almost nothing? Do the higher grade ices from lowsec/null balance it out?
Thanks in advance.
Welp, I have to spend ISK to buy my Liquid O Shortfall. It comes back though from the sales of the excess Isotope, so for now that part is a win. Not sure for how long though.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:52:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:i think the OP needs to red the BPO carefully. i also think that the LO hole will get to a critical point in the next 2 - 3 months , but besides price going 3x what it is now, nothing else will happen. i mean its not like ppl will go mine the low sec varian with high volumes of LO.
Exactly. Which presents the NullBears with yet another heap of ISK on a 'risk-free in Sov' Platter.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
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