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Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.25 20:56:00 - [1] - Quote While the recent patch was most certainly an improvement. It seems that Gallente still isn't used as much as I would hope. From what I've seen, certain ships like the Talos are dealing more damage than ships of a larger size which is quite an improvement. However it seems that Minmatar and Amarr still dominate Armor gangs. Is this because people simply don't feel like training up Gallente as they have already trained the others? Or is it because Gallente ships aren't doing as well as the others? Not a whine, just a question.
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.25 21:16:00 - [2] - Quote So the number of Gallente ships will go up after a few months when people have finally trained their skills up? Good to know that I have a several month lead from making the "mistake" of training gallente ships early in my days.
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.25 21:44:00 - [3] - Quote Julius Foederatus wrote: They're better, but the dynamic is still shield > armor, and a lot of Gallente ships are terrible shield tankers. So null buff aside (and you'll never match the effective range/dps of ACs/pulses with blasters), the dynamic is still shortest range gets the slowest speed, if you want a tank that isn't fail. I don't think it has anything to do with shields vs armor, if so it isn't the main issue. My alliance and corp mostly run armor gangs and we have been seeing great success, ESPECIALLY against shields.
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.25 21:58:00 - [4] - Quote Julius Foederatus wrote: I'll bite, give me some details on these successes. What kind of guns have you been using? Pulses, Autocannons, Blasters, the usual Armor weapons. Quote: Did you have logi? Did you have more logi than they did? Did you outnumber them? Sometimes we do. We often don't We would either have around the same or more. Most of the time. Quote: Did you have more ewar? Sometimes we do. Quote: What was the size of the fight in terms of pilots participating? Small gangs Quote: What ships did you use? Varies, we usually grab any armor ship we feel like using. I apologize for not being more specific, but anything more specific than this could compromise security.
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.26 00:09:00 - [5] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: At least link to a few fights from your kb. Its not like those would compromise security. -Liang http://kok.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12154208 Good example of how a well coordinated armor fleet can take on a nano ship. He was moving at around 2km/s. Even though our interceptor was able to point him he was still moving much faster than our ships, but this pretty much debunks the myth that nano ships can always outrun armor ships. Note how the Talos did most of the damage, which seems to show that they are pretty viable ships.
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.26 00:48:00 - [6] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I'm not sure that linking a single fight where you outnumbered an enemy by 6:1 (including a falcon) is a good example of why armor ships are particularly viable. Not disputing it, just pointing out its a terrible example. -Liang Oh well, we usually run gangs so we either outnumber them or they outnumber us (them being anyone we find to fight). We had a 2:1 advantage against two nano drakes. http://kok.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12140486 http://kok.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12140494 I didn't witness the fight myself but I think they may have been able to outrun my corp buddies (at least one of the drakes) but I can't provide too much info on it. http://kok.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12141148 4:1 fight. Probably not a very good example either given we had a mach and a numerical advantage, but my Navy Omen doing 25% of the damage is pretty impressive for a ship of it's size (and my amarr related skills are rather "meh" at the moment).
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 25	Posted - 2012.01.26 01:28:00 - [7] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: armor is viable when you start measuring how much outnumber your enemy by in multiples. -Liang Reasonable enough.

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