EVE Search - Has GM the right to see our Windows Product ID or Physic IP-Adress??

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Has GM the right to see our Windows Product ID or Physic IP-Adress??

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 2 post(s)
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 14:01:00 - [1] Edited by: DubanFP on 24/10/2007 14:02:20 Also if he means the same Physical IP adress as opposed to the same Logical IP adress that can't be faked. Normally you see & use the logical IP adress. However, every Network card in the world has it's own unique MAC adress "Physical IP adress". Basically unless you're using someone else's NIC to connect to the internet you're guilty as charged. ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 14:56:00 - [2] Edited by: DubanFP on 24/10/2007 14:56:21 Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 24/10/2007 14:52:18 Originally by: Maltitol this bring up a question... can somebody an online friend log in and change a skill for you once in a blue moon? or is that automatically a double ban for sharing? Comment please from Dev/GM. There are literally thousands who exercise this for their friends in good faith (and unfortunately, quire a few who dont), and seeing a sizable portion of EVE's playerbase banned because of a skillchange for one's buddy just sounds a bit overkill, even if it isnt outright bannable at this stage. I just dont want another grey area of coverage from the GM's on this matter. We've had that before already with suicide ganking before it became "legal". The main reason they have the rules is so if someone shares their account or password then that person tries to take over the account & kick off person #2 they don't have to deal with the ****feast he said/she said situation. Whole lot easier to either force them to figure it out themselves or ban them both. Short of a situation like that I don't think CCP really cares, even if it is technically against the EULA. Just don't go around announcing it "like on a public forum" . ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:01:00 - [3] Edited by: DubanFP on 24/10/2007 15:04:08 Originally by: Seamus Drummer Originally by: Gner Dechast So, I guess using Product ID and IP based screening is well within the legal boundaries. ...this also makes alot of sense why would such a thing exist in the first place, as Product ID (over using License key). But that would be a foolish attempt. All of the PCs in our company have the same Product ID as they were set up from one image. So are my two PCs at home. Nothing wrong with this, as long as you have a valid license for each copy. You just simply don't run around and set up hundreds of PCs from CD/DVD. Yeah but they also catch him on the MAC adress "Physical Adress". This isn't the logical IP adress that most people are used to using. This is an address unique to each and every Network card. In theory you can switch Network Cards around, but it's pretty doubtful someone would have the same Windows ID & MAC address as a Isk selling company computer unless they're guilty as charged. Especially in a small game like this. ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:13:00 - [4] Originally by: Kayna Eelai Originally by: DubanFP Yeah but they also catch him on the MAC adress "Physical Adress". This isn't the logical IP adress that most people are used to using. This is an address unique to each and every Network card. In theory you can switch Network Cards around, but it's pretty doubtful someone would have the same Windows ID & MAC address as a Isk selling company computer unless they're guilty as charged. Especially in a small game like this. MAC is not a valid identification method either. it can easily be changed to something else. PLUS some of the first realtek cards had a bug in the winXP driver which made the OS and the drivers think your max was 00-00-00-00-00 (digit missing? cant remember, lol) You can make it look different to an outside viewer yes. However, the actual MAC is still on the NIC. Not to mention the changing of a MAC address is more likely to be used to avoid getting busted. The likelyhood of someone changing their MAC address to perfectly match up with an ISK buyer's AND having the same Windows key AND who plays EVE is just soo small I can't really see it happening. Not to mention if the MAC comes from within "data gathered in the connection from client to Server" it wouldn't be hard to get the real MAC address rather then the changed one. Basically it's theoretically possible, but increadibly unlikely that the Windows key and the MAC adress would line up by coincidence. Unless the OP at least has some tie/ties to the company even if second hand "like buying a used computer that used to belong to an ISK buying company". ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:02:00 - [5] Edited by: DubanFP on 24/10/2007 16:03:47 Originally by: Kayna Eelai Originally by: DubanFP You can make it look different to an outside viewer yes. However, the actual MAC is still on the NIC. i'm telling u: you can change the REAL MAC of a NIC. just google "MAC CHANGE" and you'll find it soon enough, somewhere hidden in middle of all the software ones. novadays, all that info is stored on an EPROM on the NICs and perfectly possible to change em. actually i got the software for it somewhere at my office. it's a very simple bootdisk (as it has to be done from msdos or linux) with just an .exe file which lets you see the actual mac or change it. I already gave you the benifit of the doubt in the last post, but tell me this. He would either have to have the same pirated Windows Key "even if he's innocent he's guilty so no mercy from me" or same legitiment KEY "which ties his computer to the Farmers". What are the chances of that happening with the same farmer around the world having changed his MAC address to the exact same address as the op "very unlikely in itself", AND the person who just happens to match both of these criteria also just happens to be a player of EVE online? It's just too unlikely to be coincidence. There has to be a connection beyond dumb luck, it's just too implausible. ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.