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Kanoba
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:43:00 -
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This is not a whine thread, it's just a question i guess ...
with the exclusion of Carrier's as they are for all 4 races, the upcoming change is gonna hurt alot of gallente pilots, now i dont disagree the like of the Myrm and Eos were far too powerful for their tier/role BUT WHEN was it too powerful ... this game is not balanced on its PVE its the PVP ...
From what i can see its the GANK potential of the like of the Myrm and Eos that CCP are tryin to target here ... drones+mods+turrets and so forth .... why not simply remove high slots from the gallente Droners, Drone ships are not supposed to be profeccient with both Drones AND Turrets, the bonuses usually reflect this save the Domi ... fine remove em id much rather see high slot/turret capability reduced on Droners than the very ESSENCE of what makes it a Drone ship .... take away High Slots, hell we only really need one! for a Drone Link :)
The reason i came up with this is because ... OK it will reduce the capability of the like of the Myrm in PVP and rightly so ... but removing its capability to field Heavies (goin by the current stats taken from SiSi) it will completely WRECK IT for PVE ... yes i know Caldari care bear yada yada but NO i HATE the Raven and i refuse to fly it, and i understand my sole preference in ships wouldnt justify anythin im not that arrogant but i just think that reducing the drone capability of drone ships is a bit silly when the real problem with them is their combination of Drones/Turrets, take away the Turrets and you take away the Gank without rendering the ships completely useless.
If im wrong please tell me so in a civil manner, ive done my best not to make this sound like another whine its really more of a sorta proposal/question/alternative method to reduce the arguablely overpowered nature of some ships WITHOUT hurting ships that no has said a word about.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:45:00 -
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I'd rather the game not be balanced around PVE.
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Kanoba
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:46:00 -
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oh no you got me wrong i am not sayin it should be the game is balanced on PVP and absolutely so, but wouldnt removing high slots on all Gallente Droners be enough for you? you would reduce a huge amount of GANK potential but still leave them as DRONE SHIPS rather than Blaster boats with dronebays ?
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Dristra
Amarr
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
I'd rather the game not be balanced around PVE.
/Signed
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Kanoba
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:52:00 -
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WoW ... i wish people would actually stop and read rather than pick out key points .... i will make this absolutely clear ...
i am NOT proposing the game should be balanced on PVE, far far from it ....
i am simply asking if this alternative would be concidered semi-realistic i dont have a huge amount of PVP experience but ask yourself do you want a BALANCED challenge or do you want to see a race you concider superior to be nerfed to the ground so you can sit back and sneer .... while you pop them 1 after the other over and over and over ... if thats the case then its ironic you treat PVE the way you do because you just wanna simulate the experience with real pilots instead of NPC's
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kanoba
oh no you got me wrong i am not sayin it should be the game is balanced on PVP and absolutely so, but wouldnt removing high slots on all Gallente Droners be enough for you? you would reduce a huge amount of GANK potential but still leave them as DRONE SHIPS rather than Blaster boats with dronebays ?
To be honest, I think it'd be shafting the Gallente droners too much in a PVP situation. Maybe they can just introduce a high slot module that adds 5 or 10 more whatever to bandwidth. Make the fitting cruiser-sized. In PVP the utility of a drone ship's highslots are one of its primary strengths. Sacrificing them for "fitting" seems like a pretty good trade-off.
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Kanoba
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:55:00 -
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Now THAT is an even better idea ... that really really really is a good idea something like the Drone Control Unit only for non Capital ships.
I really like that!
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Imo thefirst
Danish Space bees
Aurora Borealis Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:58:00 -
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dont remove til high slots .. just the turret hard points
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:21:00 -
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So you guys want to kill my Domi? Limit it to some 400 dps? And ask me to be civil in my response? You're nuts. That's the civil answer, without expletives.
If you're excluding the Domi, then fine, I don't care. Still think it would be a bad change for the Myrm, just wouldn't be ****ed about it. I'd much rather have guns + mediums for PvE. BC's are meant for Lvl 3, where meds are faster then heavies, so 100 bandwidth won't nerf it at all for that. For lvl 4's get thyself a Domi. As for Ratting, hell, a Vexor can handle basic 0.0 spawns, and a Myrm with mediums and 6 guns is just fine.
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Sikozu Prioris
Suns Of Korhal
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:34:00 -
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Trouble is rev3 was meant to be a boost to drone users as stated in the oringinal rev3 dev blog. Instead all the ****** devs have decided to nerf them for no good reason what so ever. Tbh i dont care if cruisers/bc were never meant to just field heavy drones, the problem is that with the change now it makes them suck much much more.
rev3 = swg combat patch
"A enemy fleet emerges from the shadows"
- What shadows!?! We're in ****ing space for gods sake
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Kanoba
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
So you guys want to kill my Domi? Limit it to some 400 dps? And ask me to be civil in my response? You're nuts. That's the civil answer, without expletives.
If you're excluding the Domi, then fine, I don't care. Still think it would be a bad change for the Myrm, just wouldn't be ****ed about it. I'd much rather have guns + mediums for PvE. BC's are meant for Lvl 3, where meds are faster then heavies, so 100 bandwidth won't nerf it at all for that. For lvl 4's get thyself a Domi. As for Ratting, hell, a Vexor can handle basic 0.0 spawns, and a Myrm with mediums and 6 guns is just fine.
Domi hasn't been effected Qui i was only referring to ships that HAVE been effected. Yea thats a good point the BC's are not really meant to do L4 and i wouldnt want to see the Domi changed ... ok so how about the other idea of a Bandwidth module that enabled Droners to make the CHOICE of sacraficing turrets for better drones? i dont care for turrets personally i use drones, rather than limit what i use give me the choice to use what i want but limit my option in the other ????
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:45:00 -
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Yeah I think that's a good idea. Either that or drone damage mods.
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