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CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:36:00 - [1] Edited by: CommanderInChief on 25/10/2007 16:39:15 (Reposted due to old one getting locked for linking so i have to post the whole thing!) Let me introduce 'The United Alliances Of Eve (UAE)' simple and aptly named. *What is 'The United Alliances Of Eve '* The United Alliances Of Eve has now been formed by Retribution Alliance, to basically aid smaller alliances to branch into 0.0, be part of a stronger pvp organisation, and industrial setup, but have the proection and help of other alliances within the Coalition. We feel as space is becoming more contested and already occupied bu some of the bigger alliances, it was becoming increasing difficult for alliances of around 100 - 400 members to break out and gain their own territory, without either renting or becoming a 'pet' to a big alliance. Alliance leaders have spent time and money on their alliances, and do not want to give that up by merges or anything like that. This gives them the opportunity to stay in control but be part of something bigger - much bigger. We are effectively an alliance of alliances - we work off the same rules, we help and protect each other without hesitation, we live,die and fight together and we reap the rewards together. United Alliances Of Eve will become a major force who can and will compete against the bigger alliances AS ONE.. *Whats the Structure?* United Alliances Of Eve will have a senate or board of Alliance Leaders, each leader of the alliances will have a say in what and how we progress. There will be one overall Coalition Leader *What Else Can You Have?* Ok there will be not many retrictions. We are based in good systems at moment and this is where we will be based for now. So you can mine, place POSes, rat, pvp etc. But we work as an alliance would work. We do not require splinter alliances or alliances that do not work with The United Alliances Of Eve *What Are The Requirements* We require alliances with around 100-400 members We will of course consider more If you lower than 100 then we can consider merging the alliance or bring your corps into Retribution Alliance. You can still keep your alliance with an alt if you wish We require alliances with good pvp or industrial alliances Alliances that want to be part of something bigger and stake a claim to 0.0. So that means no carebears, active ops etc. Alliances that will work together with other alliances to form basically one big alliance working under the same rules. If alliances dont comply then they will be removed from United Alliances Of Eve This is the only real rule. We cannot be a strong outfit if we dont work together. *Need More Information* Of course you will have many questions, so feel free to contact me via evemail or ingame. Even just to regsiter interest. You can also join our public channel Retribution Alliance Public and chat with other potential alliances. We have a good response so far and places are limited. We look forward to hearing from you CommanderInChief
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:42:00 - [2] Edited by: CommanderInChief on 25/10/2007 16:42:55 Well remember just because they are small doesnt mean they are inexperienced mate or not damn good pvpers etc. 100-400 at the top end isnt exactly small. But even a 100 man alliance with good experience would not be able to cope with a large alliance, so this enables them to be involved with that. And of course we WILL ensure that we get good strong alliances. We are not just gonna let every single person in just for the numbers, we must ensure we can compete as well.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:48:00 - [3] good question, Sov isnt in the total interest as yet. But this will go by the way or assigning systems to alliances is probably the easist way. Thanks for the positives btw
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Mr Broker Edited by: Mr Broker on 25/10/2007 16:48:14 The thing is, if you're advertising recruitment for it, then you won't get strong or compatible alliances. A small strong alliance can always become a resident without paying rent with most bigger alliances. They would then gain experience, make friends and then be able to form a capable alliance. You're trying to do it overnight, and you will fail. In fact, the rest of 0.0 won't allow you to suceed Not trying to do anything overnight m8 Being playing this game for a long time, so I do have some experience :) As i said we will ensure the alliances we get are strong, the rules are dont participate you are removed simple. Wont allow us to do it? Well thats exactly the purpose of this, so we can stand up to that threat.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:54:00 - [5] Edited by: CommanderInChief on 25/10/2007 16:56:46 Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: CommanderInChief But this will go by the way or assigning systems to alliances is probably the easist way. The thing is, when an overwhelming force comes at you, and your small alliances realize they stand no chance, some will switch sides, and then the rest collapse on rumours. But its not just going to be that small alliance is it? The coalition is to bring all those alliances into one big alliance effectively. As i have stated we live die and fight together. Even if we have say just 10 - 100 man alliances who are pretty strong thats 1000 members, thats enough to compete with anyone.easily... Please dont underestimate the possibilites of this, if we do this right we could become a leading force - or perhaps thats what you are worried about
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:56:00 - [6] Thanks good to hear supportive comments
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 18:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Stamm I've spent some time and looked into this. So I'll put a warning on this : Don't touch this with a barge pole. It's a recruitment scam. What an absolute ridiculous statement..spent time looking lokng into what? I only started it the other day. Honestly i really dont care what you say.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 18:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Righteous Fury The next time you spam my email inbox with your inane ramblings on why I should disband my alliance and join your ridiculous waste of time, I'm going to grief your group out of existence. Oh stop it was one email thats not spam jeez grow up..look guys i honestly dont care what you think, really i dont, this will work, recruitment scam how sad, why do you alwys think something is dodgy, ive been in this game for about 3 years, and ppl know me wh the hell would i risk my reputation on a scam - get real ffs - the reason why you say such crap is your scared this could actually work and be a threat to you. Anymore silly comments then bring it on...... Otherwise thanks for the support from the ones who think we are actually doing something good.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.25 18:16:00 - [9] There the recruitment bit removed for you paranoid ones!.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.30 11:48:00 - [10] Edited by: CommanderInChief on 30/10/2007 11:50:49 Well we now have a couple of alliances joined up and a few more interested, so its begun..! Dedication is the key word, we have that we will succeed.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.30 11:50:00 - [11] Originally by: CARY Originally by: Mr Broker Edited by: Mr Broker on 25/10/2007 16:40:52 How would you defend this space with a whole bunch of small unexperienced alliances? edit: Look at Frege, they very were big (nd biggest alliance for awhile), had quite some time to get organized, but died so quickly to an ordinary 0.0 alliance. I am going to have to agree with Mr Broker on this one. I think its a great idea what you are going to start out with, But an alliance like this you need to know you really can't make any real impact even if you grew over 2000 members. Any alliance that has many smaller corps with in it will fall apart. There is little direction and Command. A 20 to 40 Small Alliance corps really can't handle a 1 large corp of 300. 1 commmand is easy to handle, In so many small corps some members if not happy with a command will take their ball and go home if they don't like the command. Its just much better to command and control. Here is an option for you. Form up your Alliance and after so many months The alliance will form up Mega Corps. Try to grow into at lease 2 or 3 Mega Corps. You will become a much better Alliance over time that way. If you be an alliance of many Corps you will have some serious SOV issues and operational issues..Yu will be able to gain Sov and command much easier. Again we wont be getting inexperienced alliances just because they aint big doesnt mean they inexperienced. AS stated we will limit the number of alliances to make it manageable. The rules are that alliances work together as one, otherwise they will be removed from the coalition. There is command structure and I myself will ensure its kept in line with our charter and policies.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.30 12:28:00 - [12] Edited by: CommanderInChief on 30/10/2007 12:28:57 Originally by: Damir36 Edited by: Damir36 on 30/10/2007 12:17:10 Hmmm, the idea is intresting, but do you have a little bit more about how you would organize such a thing? There is the question of money, will there be a monthly fee for participating? The question of ressources, how will you distribute hunting- and mining areas? How will you settle disputes between the members and what are the rules for diffrent alliances living together? My personal opinion is that this could get very difficult over time. Everybody is proud of his own Alliance and a real or percieved slight by someone could get ugly very quickly. To make this work you would need a very strong leader that has the respect of all the leaders of the participating Alliances and my expierience with Allianceleaders is, that they will not have somebody telling them what to do. Thats one of the reasons that they became Leaders and important for the job. But this will make it difficult to let them agree on varios matters. And you need a big fat aim for your "Alliance of Alliances". Just occuping 0.0 space will not be enough becauce bored pilots start to squabble very quickly if the do not have a common enemie and the chance to shoot at him. I am really intrestet in your Idea but very sceptic. And I miss a lot of this things in your original post. Well, keep us posted how this thing works out. Oh, and sorry, english is not my native language (as i am sure you noticed :-)) Firstly thanks for the vote of confidence. Ok lets break this down.. Quote: There is the question of money, will there be a monthly fee for participating? ] There will be no monthly fee, alliances already have to pay fees why pay more..The aim is to become as one and help each other. Quote: how will you distribute hunting- and mining areas? Again this is not about segregation, the aim is to be one big alliance, just like guys, you let your members rat or mine anywhere. The rules will be set out in the charter, all alliances work as one, we live, die and fight together. The rules are the same for everyone, consistent breaking or rules or none participation then they are removed from the coalition. Disputes will be settled amicably, if we are as one then we should be on the same side. Quote: How will you settle disputes between the members and what are the rules for diffrent alliances living together? The structure is to have one coalition leader - Myself. Who will oversee the whole operation, and yes I feel im a strong enough leader, as i have the vision and passion to make this work. I believe we can make this very successful but dedication is needed. There will then be a senate/board/counsel where each alliance leader will have a seat. A discuss decisions and ways forward. Quote: Thats one of the reasons that they became Leaders and important for the job. But this will make it difficult to let them agree on varios matters. as above, but yes thats why we have a counsel to vote on matters, not everyone will agree on everything, that never happens even in RL politics. And yes thats why i created the coalition as alliance leaders dont want to give that power up, this enables them to do that but also be part of something much much bigger. Hope this answers your questions a little more.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:18:00 - [13] And remember this isnt just about creating a large coalition its about helping the smaller alliances to succeed where they perhaps couldnt.
CommanderInChief The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:15:00 - [14] Update - 3 alliances now joined up!

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