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Ziraion Fly Hi	Posted - 2007.10.26 13:54:00 - [1] Edited by: Ziraion on 26/10/2007 13:55:24 8338 days to go ! Does someone really want to wait till 2030 for the job to finish ? A booster a day keeps enemy at bay !
Helmar Dewey	Posted - 2007.10.26 16:02:00 - [2] someone has put in one of ore compression BPOS for research, They do it to tie up the slot so they can use it later when they want it. This is petitionable and the GM's will removed it.
Kaaii Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.10.26 16:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Helmar Dewey someone has put in one of ore compression BPOS for research, They do it to tie up the slot so they can use it later when they want it. This is petitionable and the GM's will removed it. They should bill them for the full amount of the 22 years research tho, just for being nimords.... Stupidity is expensive... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.26 16:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Helmar Dewey someone has put in one of ore compression BPOS for research, They do it to tie up the slot so they can use it later when they want it. This is petitionable and the GM's will removed it. Canseling that job does not free up that slot. That slot is lost for 22 years now. Under current game mechaniks someone has also shelled out proper amount of isk for the research time (unless it's capped somewhere).
Deyionu Critical Analysis	Posted - 2007.10.26 23:30:00 - [5] Edited by: Deyionu on 26/10/2007 23:30:37 Lol since im bored at work i worked out the cost :p 342,832,968 isk for the hr cost and if i remember right the max you can do per run is 30 days... so thats 278,000 for the install fee SOOOO... 343,110,968 the new isk sink :P
Blazde 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.27 05:10:00 - [6] Doesn't this really just confirm what's obvious already: per hour ME research costs are too low? _
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.27 08:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Blazde Doesn't this really just confirm what's obvious already: per hour ME research costs are too low? They used to be dynamic depending on load on lab slots but when the new system came they were freezed whereever they were at that moment. And it's also possible to put in longer than 30 day jobs if one 'tick' is above 30 days. Like PE research on capitals and so on. But yeah. With enough isk and will to do it you can disable all public labslots in empire for foreseeable future. It's just damn expencive.
zzLab2	Posted - 2007.10.27 09:16:00 - [8] Looks like a bad macro or a bug to me The longest research job that you can install is 30 days, so that must be about 250 BPOs all using the same lab slot. I do not think a human user would do that.
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.10.27 09:22:00 - [9] Originally by: zzLab2 Looks like a bad macro or a bug to me The longest research job that you can install is 30 days, so that must be about 250 BPOs all using the same lab slot. I do not think a human user would do that. Not quite the longest do-able job is either 30 days or 1 run of a job that takes more than 30 days, ie research on Cap/supercap bps.
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.27 10:09:00 - [10] Originally by: zzLab2 Looks like a bad macro or a bug to me The longest research job that you can install is 30 days, so that must be about 250 BPOs all using the same lab slot. I do not think a human user would do that. Oh you can do it with any BPO you like. It's rather easy. Install it for 30 days, cansel job (lab is tied up for 30 days and canseling will not free it up while your 'research slot' skillwise will be available again), repeat on same slot until you are statisfied with time it will be out of action. You don't need to disable it for decades either. Say 6 months is already quite enough to nuke your competiton in the area. Only thing you need is time (around 2 minutes per slot per 30 days disabled) and isk. A lot of isk and will to use it for disabling public lab slots.
Helen Hunts Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc	Posted - 2007.10.27 16:05:00 - [11] Cancelling a research job doesn't give back any money though. All one does by cancelling jobs repeatedly is gives the station a bucket of cash and nukes the slot. Basically throwing money about to cause grief. If it's an Outpost, then the owners will get their money either way. _______________________________ Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money. Any Questions?
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.27 23:26:00 - [12] Originally by: zzLab2 Looks like a bad macro or a bug to me The longest research job that you can install is 30 days, so that must be about 250 BPOs all using the same lab slot. I do not think a human user would do that. Actually, you are mistaken. The longest research job you can install is max{30 days, time for one level of research}. So if it takes 22 years to do one level of ME research (which, I believe, it does for ore compression BPOs), you can install a job which takes 22 years. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.10.28 10:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Helen Hunts Cancelling a research job doesn't give back any money though. All one does by cancelling jobs repeatedly is gives the station a bucket of cash and nukes the slot. Basically throwing money about to cause grief. If it's an Outpost, then the owners will get their money either way. The question is, would it be worth X Billion to (effectively) permanently disable all the lab slots on an enemy outpost, using a few spies/saboteurs? -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Falka Lakadaka Gallente BakaLakadaka Street	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:20:00 - [14] Edited by: Falka Lakadaka on 28/10/2007 11:21:23 I'm no outpost expert, but can't you just take the labs offline? This would kill all jobs (including friendly ones), but the billions of enemy ISK would be wasted and the spies probably exposed. Cheers Falka ________________________________________ Have a Skill in training every second of every day and never buy a ship you can't afford to replace at least once.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.10.29 07:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Falka Lakadaka Edited by: Falka Lakadaka on 28/10/2007 11:21:23 I'm no outpost expert, but can't you just take the labs offline? This would kill all jobs (including friendly ones), but the billions of enemy ISK would be wasted and the spies probably exposed. You're thinking POS labs. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth

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