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Zerodot Saleswench Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 02:33:00 - [91] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:23:28 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd since it's not about me, how about we tell who MPs main is? i mean, why should we trust someone who uses an alt to gain around 50b isk and won't tell his investing public who his main is? I strongly agree with you on this. I know his main, and while I am not going to be an ass and post it when he told me not to, I would really prefer if he stopped the charade. As it has been from the beginning, if you own ZERO. shares, you can EVEMail MP and ask who my main is. If you bought ZERO. shares at IPO, you got a confirmation mail with the name of my main. Additionally, a few selected individuals outside that circle also know the name of my main. If you aren't in that group, my shareholders and I have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling you who I am. This degree of semi-secrecy was in the prospectus from the beginning, and thus far, as far as I know, no shareholders have seen fit to break the covenant. If one did, I'd imagine the reaction of the other shareholders would range from nonchalance to anger, but I very much doubt if they'd be appreciative of someone (even slightly) devaluing their investment for no gain. MP --
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.29 02:35:00 - [92] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:34:49 Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:23:28 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd since it's not about me, how about we tell who MPs main is? i mean, why should we trust someone who uses an alt to gain around 50b isk and won't tell his investing public who his main is? I strongly agree with you on this. I know his main, and while I am not going to be an ass and post it when he told me not to, I would really prefer if he stopped the charade. As it has been from the beginning, if you own ZERO. shares, you can EVEMail MP and ask who my main is. If you bought ZERO. shares at IPO, you got a confirmation mail with the name of my main. Additionally, a few selected individuals outside that circle also know the name of my main. If you aren't in that group, my shareholders and I have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling you who I am. This degree of semi-secrecy was in the prospectus from the beginning, and thus far, as far as I know, no shareholders have seen fit to break the covenant. If one did, I'd imagine the reaction of the other shareholders would range from nonchalance to anger, but I very much doubt if they'd be appreciative of someone (even slightly) devaluing their investment for no gain. MP Why only ZERO? Why not TINY.? If this was true for all of your IPOs, I would be less concerned. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.29 02:38:00 - [93] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: Researching King what he said so get with hexxx, balogh, and aaronee (sorry if i jacked up yourname) and um, lavista (or whomever you guys have coding stuff) and make mo better tools for stuff~!! You don't think we are? RESX and EGSE integration in EBANK is something we can't wait to do. The ability to have a share portfolio through your EBANK accounts (still handled through RESX), whilst also having the ability of an EGSE broker to withdraw funds from your EBANK account (effectively those EGSE brokers being able to double up as EBANK tellers) and tons of other fancy things. So just because you haven't heard a lot about it, don't think it isn't happening . We always wanted EBANK to be there as a foundation with integration between lots of other corporations. It's a hell of a project but can be amazing if we can get where we want to be. Oh, and why don't you have an EBANK account yet Ezoran. I demand you send some isk to EBANK Ricdic asap so you can fiddle with the accounting tools (any amount is fine, even 100 isk) (There's my shameless EBANK bump in an already off-topic thread) Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 02:38:00 - [94] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:34:49 Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:23:28 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd since it's not about me, how about we tell who MPs main is? i mean, why should we trust someone who uses an alt to gain around 50b isk and won't tell his investing public who his main is? I strongly agree with you on this. I know his main, and while I am not going to be an ass and post it when he told me not to, I would really prefer if he stopped the charade. As it has been from the beginning, if you own ZERO. shares, you can EVEMail MP and ask who my main is. If you bought ZERO. shares at IPO, you got a confirmation mail with the name of my main. Additionally, a few selected individuals outside that circle also know the name of my main. If you aren't in that group, my shareholders and I have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling you who I am. This degree of semi-secrecy was in the prospectus from the beginning, and thus far, as far as I know, no shareholders have seen fit to break the covenant. If one did, I'd imagine the reaction of the other shareholders would range from nonchalance to anger, but I very much doubt if they'd be appreciative of someone (even slightly) devaluing their investment for no gain. MP Why only ZERO? Why not TINY.? If this was true for all of your IPOs, I would be less concerned. damnit. stop posting~! did you not read that i won?????????
Zerodot Saleswench Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 02:39:00 - [95] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:34:49 Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:23:28 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd since it's not about me, how about we tell who MPs main is? i mean, why should we trust someone who uses an alt to gain around 50b isk and won't tell his investing public who his main is? I strongly agree with you on this. I know his main, and while I am not going to be an ass and post it when he told me not to, I would really prefer if he stopped the charade. As it has been from the beginning, if you own ZERO. shares, you can EVEMail MP and ask who my main is. If you bought ZERO. shares at IPO, you got a confirmation mail with the name of my main. Additionally, a few selected individuals outside that circle also know the name of my main. If you aren't in that group, my shareholders and I have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling you who I am. This degree of semi-secrecy was in the prospectus from the beginning, and thus far, as far as I know, no shareholders have seen fit to break the covenant. If one did, I'd imagine the reaction of the other shareholders would range from nonchalance to anger, but I very much doubt if they'd be appreciative of someone (even slightly) devaluing their investment for no gain. MP Why only ZERO? Why not TINY.? If this was true for all of your IPOs, I would be less concerned. A fair criticism, but mostly an oversight on my part. That I did state it that way at all was largely because most TINY. investors were also ZERO. investors, and also to some degree because revealing my main to ZERO. investors was a way to build confidence, which I didn't feel I needed for the TINY. float, so TINY. investors have never had the expectation of knowing my main by virtue of their investment. Realistically, if a TINY. investor EVEMailed Motivated Prophet (not Massive; she's just a CEO alt), I'd happily divulge my main's name, but I'd be a lot more wary if for no other reason than the fact that a TINY. investor has less to lose from someone knowing my main than a ZERO. one. MP --
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 02:42:00 - [96] Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:34:49 Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2007 02:23:28 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd since it's not about me, how about we tell who MPs main is? i mean, why should we trust someone who uses an alt to gain around 50b isk and won't tell his investing public who his main is? I strongly agree with you on this. I know his main, and while I am not going to be an ass and post it when he told me not to, I would really prefer if he stopped the charade. As it has been from the beginning, if you own ZERO. shares, you can EVEMail MP and ask who my main is. If you bought ZERO. shares at IPO, you got a confirmation mail with the name of my main. Additionally, a few selected individuals outside that circle also know the name of my main. If you aren't in that group, my shareholders and I have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by telling you who I am. This degree of semi-secrecy was in the prospectus from the beginning, and thus far, as far as I know, no shareholders have seen fit to break the covenant. If one did, I'd imagine the reaction of the other shareholders would range from nonchalance to anger, but I very much doubt if they'd be appreciative of someone (even slightly) devaluing their investment for no gain. MP Why only ZERO? Why not TINY.? If this was true for all of your IPOs, I would be less concerned. A fair criticism, but mostly an oversight on my part. That I did state it that way at all was largely because most TINY. investors were also ZERO. investors, and also to some degree because revealing my main to ZERO. investors was a way to build confidence, which I didn't feel I needed for the TINY. float, so TINY. investors have never had the expectation of knowing my main by virtue of their investment. Realistically, if a TINY. investor EVEMailed Motivated Prophet (not Massive; she's just a CEO alt), I'd happily divulge my main's name, but I'd be a lot more wary if for no other reason than the fact that a TINY. investor has less to lose from someone knowing my main than a ZERO. one. MP my evemail is broken and cofr owns a wee bit of both ventures -- who's your main?
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:46:00 - [97] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd my evemail is broken and cofr owns a wee bit of both ventures -- who's your main? If you are trying to get an agressive reaction from MP I think you are doing a sterling job Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Investigador Caldari Hator inc The Omni Federation	Posted - 2007.10.29 09:55:00 - [98] MP, why didn't you just ignore the troll and let people judge by themselves?
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 12:16:00 - [99] Originally by: Investigador MP, why didn't you just ignore the troll and let people judge by themselves? yes, let people judge for themselves if indeed, labogh should be attacked out the blue by some troll. oh wait, you didn't say MP was the troll, i'm betting you meant me. i plainly stated i was not attacking mp i even said "I am definitely not calling scam here, so let me get that across immediately and forcefully. Obviously, I welcome MP to the discussion, and I want to re-emphasize, I am certainly not calling MP a scammer." don't you understand that means that everything i type is therefore not meant in any bad way towards mp? it's quite obvious by my disclaimer. right mp? isn't that how it works?
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 12:26:00 - [100] Originally by: Ricdic Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd my evemail is broken and cofr owns a wee bit of both ventures -- who's your main? If you are trying to get an agressive reaction from MP I think you are doing a sterling job so i guess i should just transfer shares, evemail, then do a great unveiling?

Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.29 13:45:00 - [101] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd so i guess i should just transfer shares, evemail, then do a great unveiling? Your post read as if you were saying seeing as you own some of his shares you would like to know his main. However, because your evemail is 'apparently' broken, you need it stated here. Now, we all know your evemail isn't broken, so should we consider you untrustworthy and a liar from now on? I am going to assume you were joking because whilst you can be a clown most of the time I don't think you are a dishonest person. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 14:23:00 - [102] Originally by: Ricdic Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd so i guess i should just transfer shares, evemail, then do a great unveiling? Your post read as if you were saying seeing as you own some of his shares you would like to know his main. However, because your evemail is 'apparently' broken, you need it stated here. Now, we all know your evemail isn't broken, so should we consider you untrustworthy and a liar from now on? I am going to assume you were joking because whilst you can be a clown most of the time I don't think you are a dishonest person. it means, that if i do send an evemail and get a reply, that i'll do like i said in the above post - say who the evemail told me the main was. so why not skip the middleman?
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.10.29 14:27:00 - [103] It is Monday morning. Give it up. You two could make grown up Jesus cry. It's A GIRL!!!!!
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 14:30:00 - [104] Originally by: Shar Tegral It is Monday morning. Give it up. You two could make grown up Jesus cry. i like to think of him as the baby Jesus. all cute and cuddly lying there in His crib.
Zerodot Saleswench Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 17:19:00 - [105] Barring a post deserving of a reply, this thread is done. MP --
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.10.29 17:31:00 - [106] I'm curious. If Ezoran does indeed have shares then are you denying to share your main with him? Perhaps he shouldn't have been open and ask publicly and he should have just sent an eve-mail in a week asking? Just curious on what exactly your disclosure policy is. Assuming he is a shareholder and you won't give the name out to him... then what are the other restrictions on your releasing of the name in addition to having to have shares? Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 19:02:00 - [107] Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 29/10/2007 19:05:22 Originally by: Shadarle I'm curious. If Ezoran does indeed have shares then are you denying to share your main with him? Perhaps he shouldn't have been open and ask publicly and he should have just sent an eve-mail in a week asking? Just curious on what exactly your disclosure policy is. Assuming he is a shareholder and you won't give the name out to him... then what are the other restrictions on your releasing of the name in addition to having to have shares? i didn't see where "don't reveal my main" was part of what was posted above. i think i read "would hope you don't reveal it" or something. i could've misread it. but yeah, i would definitely reveal it, ESPECIALLY if it were iss or a corp i like to mock. edited: i was wrong Quote: a) I "disclosed" my reasons for not widely-publicizing who my main(s) are in the original ZERO. thread. Do your research. b) I revealed my main to all original ZERO. investors. b.1) Investors were instructed to tell only those they trusted the identity of my main. b.2) Jerikia was an original investor. i would definitely stick with b.1), i love and trust and adore a LOT of people. council on foreign relations has held shares in both tiny and zero since i purchased them either with cofr's ceo or this toon and then transferred them over.
Alana DuBlaidd Council on Foreign Relations	Posted - 2007.10.29 19:07:00 - [108] yes, what i said.
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.10.29 19:07:00 - [109] Edited by: Shadarle on 29/10/2007 19:07:27 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: Shadarle I'm curious. If Ezoran does indeed have shares then are you denying to share your main with him? Perhaps he shouldn't have been open and ask publicly and he should have just sent an eve-mail in a week asking? Just curious on what exactly your disclosure policy is. Assuming he is a shareholder and you won't give the name out to him... then what are the other restrictions on your releasing of the name in addition to having to have shares? i didn't see where "don't reveal my main" was part of what was posted above. i think i read "would hope you don't reveal it" or something. i could've misread it. but yeah, i would definitely reveal it, ESPECIALLY if it were iss or a corp i like to mock. Well, I can understand why he wouldn't reveal it to you. But it would make me question on what grounds he doesn't reveal it, considering he hadn't made past restrictions other than owning shares (as far as I know). Perhaps he has indeed said it is still up to his discretion, in which case he of course has no obligation to tell you and would definitely not tell you since you obviously want to make it public. I just think he should be following any rules he stated in his IPO, if that gives him permission to tell you where to go then that's fine but if it says he has to give it out then I don't see how he can say no. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 19:09:00 - [110] combine an attack on balogh with "i've got a secret" ***ness and it equals a whole lot of "hey, you really have only made two div payments in a year, you suck ass".

Zerodot Saleswench Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 22:42:00 - [111] Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 29/10/2007 19:07:27 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: Shadarle I'm curious. If Ezoran does indeed have shares then are you denying to share your main with him? Perhaps he shouldn't have been open and ask publicly and he should have just sent an eve-mail in a week asking? Just curious on what exactly your disclosure policy is. Assuming he is a shareholder and you won't give the name out to him... then what are the other restrictions on your releasing of the name in addition to having to have shares? i didn't see where "don't reveal my main" was part of what was posted above. i think i read "would hope you don't reveal it" or something. i could've misread it. but yeah, i would definitely reveal it, ESPECIALLY if it were iss or a corp i like to mock. Well, I can understand why he wouldn't reveal it to you. But it would make me question on what grounds he doesn't reveal it, considering he hadn't made past restrictions other than owning shares (as far as I know). Perhaps he has indeed said it is still up to his discretion, in which case he of course has no obligation to tell you and would definitely not tell you since you obviously want to make it public. I just think he should be following any rules he stated in his IPO, if that gives him permission to tell you where to go then that's fine but if it says he has to give it out then I don't see how he can say no. You bring up an excellent point. I encourage Ezoran to go through the standard process (EVEMailing Motivated Prophet) for ascertaining the identity of my main. Having done so, he will then be free to post my reply as he sees fit. This thread, however, is--and has been, for over two pages now--done. MP --
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.29 22:58:00 - [112] Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench This thread, however, is--and has been, for over two pages now--done. MP stop posting then. you said i won like a page or two ago.
Letias Caldari Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:34:00 - [113] MP that picture was great, Keep trolling people I want more cake!
HotFudge	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:48:00 - [114] This thread confuses me. 1) I dont get this thing about keeping your main secret, really it seems rather odd. 2) Is ezz a goon alt? He's sure as hell acting like one, been taking their classes? o:O
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:18:00 - [115] Just as a side note, the best way to maintain two identities on a forum is to have conversations with yourself... and better yet to have arguments with yourself. To take it to the next level and make it easier on yourself, having a feud with yourself is dual-identity gold. You can all get back to this ongoing thread now Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:18:00 - [116] Originally by: HotFudge This thread confuses me. 1) I dont get this thing about keeping your main secret, really it seems rather odd. 2) Is ezz a goon alt? He's sure as hell acting like one, been taking their classes? o:O 1) lameness 2) this
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:22:00 - [117] Originally by: Zerodot Saleswench http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4508/cake18ac1.jpg Barring a post deserving of a reply, this thread is done. MP The cake. ITS. A. LIE!!! 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
HotFudge	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:24:00 - [118] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd 2) this That shows nothing. Infact it makes me suspect it even more.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:29:00 - [119] Originally by: HotFudge Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd 2) this That shows nothing. Infact it makes me suspect it even more. dark shikari said he's a goon. he also said i'm a goon. but then he's also said i'm just some forum alt. i don't believe most of the stuff dark shikari says.
HotFudge	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:49:00 - [120] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd dark shikari said he's a goon. he also said i'm a goon. but then he's also said i'm just some forum alt. i don't believe most of the stuff dark shikari says.



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