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Meleia
Satanic Red
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Posted - 2007.10.27 09:48:00 -
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Hmm, looking at the map here, and if the Goons evacuate Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek and Detorid (maybe only keep a small presence there), and leave those regions to Red Alliance, they could concentrate all their forces in Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, calling in Red Alliance capitals and special forces if/when needed.
If this would happen, and they get settled in these three regions, there is no way in hell that BOB will take back those regions, or in any other way defeat the "RaGoons" in any military way, any time soon now.
There must be someone with a real life military background (like me) who can see this in BOB as well?
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 09:51:00 -
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Are you crazy? Do you know how many jumps that is from Scalding Pass???? 
No goon would put that much effort into moving all their crap.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.27 10:02:00 -
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Don't listen to them Meleia. You're absolutely and completely correct, Goons are migrating all their gear.
You see, BoB retreated so fast and in such a panic, by the time they stopped to look, they were in Outer Ring.
Goonswarm will be administering Delve, as of Monday.
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Meleia
Satanic Red
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Posted - 2007.10.27 10:12:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Don't listen to them Meleia. You're absolutely and completely correct, Goons are migrating all their gear.
You see, BoB retreated so fast and in such a panic, by the time they stopped to look, they were in Outer Ring.
Goonswarm will be administering Delve, as of Monday.
Monday eh?  Dont think so.
But IF Goons would settle down in those three regions, there would only be two ways in, one from Stain and one from Period Basis. And those three regions are far superior to the space Goonswarm have right now. Both economical and military.
Also, the BOB retreat would be completely offset by the fact that the Goons would be close to the BOB homeland region Delve/Period Basis.
... rabble rabble...
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

fewl
Caldari Frontier Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 10:42:00 -
[5]
i dont think bob said they were retreating. sure they played a video but didnt actually say anything.
they may be lulling everyoneinto a false sense of security
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.10.27 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: fewl i dont think bob said they were retreating. sure they played a video but didnt actually say anything.
they may be lulling everyoneinto a false sense of security
No, they won't come to save your main's ass no matter how much you'd wish that to happen -
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EvilFlyingMonkey
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.27 10:55:00 -
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I think you will notice that their allies are retreating, it makes no reference to what the bob forces are doing.
Their approach is simple really, get all their allies into once concentrated position so not only can their allies help each other and them in a more concentrated effort, but also, bob forces don't have to travel so far to help them. -------------------------------------------- Beware of the flying Monkeys
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General StarScream
THE DECEPTIC0NS
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:05:00 -
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best ide now, is a full attack on delve and fountain.
Wich bob and pets are setting up large death defence stars all over.
the war is far from over.
What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
Now is the time they should push everything into the fight.
Bob is short handed with bad moral.
they trying to get smaller space with bottel necks to defend, while leaving a large space open.
Ferge should move from the drone region and into the new open space, while helping ragoons pushing into stain setting up bases there for the big push into delve.
while the north, should push hard into Fountain. afterall BoB will destory the North alliance if they are given the time.
so its important that they fight hard.
Once you****s are down, it should be a nice push into fountain.
Others whom dont like bob should come down the low sec pipe to shakt and make life there hard for bob and pets.
if thees basic plans are done bob wil be out of delve in 6 months.
Sig Removed. Dont use inappropriate language in sigs -Kaemonn |

Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:09:00 -
[9]
I'm taking notes, keep the advice coming please.
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Cyrus Ildemar
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:15:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Cyrus Ildemar on 27/10/2007 11:15:18
Originally by: General StarScream What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
there appear to be small yellow nuggets in my master plan, possibly corn 
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Kasak Black
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Kasak Black on 27/10/2007 11:21:08
Originally by: General StarScream What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
You're giving BOB too much credit. Remember this is an Internetz Space Ship Game, not the enigma.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:23:00 -
[12]
Originally by: General StarScream they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
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Blazing Fire
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream
What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
BoB is dying, get over it.
They need much more effort to recover.
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fewl
Caldari Frontier Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: fewl i dont think bob said they were retreating. sure they played a video but didnt actually say anything.
they may be lulling everyoneinto a false sense of security
No, they won't come to save your main's ass no matter how much you'd wish that to happen
strangely im neutral in this war and have no affiliation with either side. personally i think both sides are as bad as each other in relation to their ingame and forum conduct.
anyway that aside. one thing i know for sure having played this game for so long is to never underestimate either bob or bob member corps.
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Meleia
Satanic Red
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: EvilFlyingMonkey I think you will notice that their allies are retreating, it makes no reference to what the bob forces are doing.
Their approach is simple really, get all their allies into once concentrated position so not only can their allies help each other and them in a more concentrated effort, but also, bob forces don't have to travel so far to help them.
Yes, that must be the plan. But BOB must realize that Goonswarm might relocate 100% to Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, and thereby offset the gains by pulling back. There is no need to stay in crap regions anymore when Goonswarm can live deeper down south in some of the best regions in the game. Just look at Feythabolis region, its far superior to anything the Goons have right now. Its also very strategical positioned close to BOB, IAC, AAA, etc.
1, BOB will have an easier time to defend, yes, but they will no way in hell be able to win the war if the premises are to annihilate Goonswarm. In that sense the war is already over. (if goons relocate to Feyth, Eso and Para that is..)
2, Goonswarm now have a chance to relocate to three superb regions very close to BOB homeland. AND they will be able to gain isk much faster, safer and easier. Faster becouse there are better ratting systems in those regions, safer becouse they will be very close to their main fleet (might be offset by BOB raiding?) and easier since they dont have to travel very far.
3, Red Alliance wont have any problems holding the space Goonswarm inhabit right now. And i dont think anyone up north would dare to attack them anyway. So the 4-5 regions they would have (if the Goons relocate) would be pretty safe. On the other hand, Red Alliance will be far away from the frontlines... Making the coalition weaker...
Too me, it looks like it will be the biggest stalemate in EVE history. 
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

General StarScream
THE DECEPTIC0NS
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:38:00 -
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i dont think anyone does, even a 1 day old rookie is dangarus.
but even so, it dont change the fact that bob is gona lose all there space, and be rideculed for years for losing to ragoons.
Its like a Wolverin Vs a Old bear. Sig Removed. Dont use inappropriate language in sigs -Kaemonn |

Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:39:00 -
[17]
There are no goons.
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x racer
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:42:00 -
[18]
There is no BoB
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Radeberger
Caldari Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:42:00 -
[19]
If goons do take up residency in those regions, they should rename their alliance to ASCN mk2 or something random like that Is this a sig? i think not |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:43:00 -
[20]
BoBs retreat looks like a reaction to faltering on their old frontiers, and needing to regroup. And tbh, its a perfectly reasonable and sensible tactic in anyone's books- your troops are beginning to thin out and you're not managing to be everywhere you need to be at once, so you fall back to a more easily defendable area.
Doesn't mean it'll necessarily help them though. It really does depend if the presence of BoB's main fleet within a few jumps of the front line might encourage the formerly-front-line pets to fight a bit more. If some of them perform like they have been so far, it doesn't look terribly hopeful for the beleaguered bunch.
I have been quite interested to see what RSF do next tbh. There are a lot of tactical possibilities (of which the OP's is one) opened up by BoB's move, and I'm really looking forward to see what they go for next. ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
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Meleia
Satanic Red
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: fewl
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: fewl i dont think bob said they were retreating. sure they played a video but didnt actually say anything.
they may be lulling everyoneinto a false sense of security
No, they won't come to save your main's ass no matter how much you'd wish that to happen
strangely im neutral in this war and have no affiliation with either side. personally i think both sides are as bad as each other in relation to their ingame and forum conduct.
anyway that aside. one thing i know for sure having played this game for so long is to never underestimate either bob or bob member corps.
I dont think even the Goons really belive they will ever be able to take Delve from BOB. If they do, i just feel sorry for them.
BOB fighting for their survival in their home region will for sure be the most motivated and hardest hitting force EVE have ever seen. It will be totalhelldeath for any power that tries to get a foothold in that region.
On the other hand, BOB will never wipe out the Goons either, thats for sure. Its too late for that.
EPIC STALEMATE 
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

ciapek
Amarr Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream best ide now, is a full attack on delve and fountain.
Wich bob and pets are setting up large death defence stars all over.
the war is far from over.
What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
Now is the time they should push everything into the fight.
Bob is short handed with bad moral.
they trying to get smaller space with bottel necks to defend, while leaving a large space open.
Ferge should move from the drone region and into the new open space, while helping ragoons pushing into stain setting up bases there for the big push into delve.
while the north, should push hard into Fountain. afterall BoB will destory the North alliance if they are given the time.
so its important that they fight hard.
Once you****s are down, it should be a nice push into fountain.
Others whom dont like bob should come down the low sec pipe to shakt and make life there hard for bob and pets.
if thees basic plans are done bob wil be out of delve in 6 months.
goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
ah and start banning whiners cause every post looks same when goons start to reply - waste of time
*8564 goons member*
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CommanderInChief
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:54:00 -
[23]
As a neut It all seems a bit too easy to me - remember BoB have survived and won the great wars with ASCN and D2. And when it comes to war they are experienced, so dont assume anything. It could be a nice trap they are lying out
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:55:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Meleia
Yes, that must be the plan. But BOB must realize that Goonswarm might relocate 100% to Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, and thereby offset the gains by pulling back. There is no need to stay in crap regions anymore when Goonswarm can live deeper down south in some of the best regions in the game. Just look at Feythabolis region, its far superior to anything the Goons have right now. Its also very strategical positioned close to BOB, IAC, AAA, etc.
There's nothing in feyth that's any better than Scalding Pass, Southern Detorid, or Eastern Tenerifis. The main clusters of stations in each of the regions are in really good trusec with Angel rats and Arkonor. The only thing Esoteria has to offer that's any different is Sansha rats.
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Meleia
Satanic Red
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:57:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Patch86 BoBs retreat looks like a reaction to faltering on their old frontiers, and needing to regroup. And tbh, its a perfectly reasonable and sensible tactic in anyone's books- your troops are beginning to thin out and you're not managing to be everywhere you need to be at once, so you fall back to a more easily defendable area.
Its a good tactic if you are loosing, yes. Its not a tactic to use to win a war though. Not three regions. if it had been half a region or something sure, but not giving up three regions.
Quote: Doesn't mean it'll necessarily help them though. It really does depend if the presence of BoB's main fleet within a few jumps of the front line might encourage the formerly-front-line pets to fight a bit more. If some of them perform like they have been so far, it doesn't look terribly hopeful for the beleaguered bunch.
BOB pets are not any worse than RaGoon pets imho. FIX is actually one of the better alliances in the game if they could get a better structure on things.
Quote: I have been quite interested to see what RSF do next tbh. There are a lot of tactical possibilities (of which the OP's is one) opened up by BoB's move, and I'm really looking forward to see what they go for next.
I dont think they will leave the space they have now. They never will. So they will be very far away from the fighting, contributing the the stalemate im predicting.
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

CommanderInChief
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:00:00 -
[26]
The funny thing is your all worried about Goons/BoB I think you better look over your shoulder at Tri, as you lot are fighting this war Tri are becoming more and more powerful..
First YouWhat? What next Razor? MM?
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Impretinent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:01:00 -
[27]
Originally by: ciapek
Originally by: General StarScream best ide now, is a full attack on delve and fountain.
Wich bob and pets are setting up large death defence stars all over.
the war is far from over.
What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
Now is the time they should push everything into the fight.
Bob is short handed with bad moral.
they trying to get smaller space with bottel necks to defend, while leaving a large space open.
Ferge should move from the drone region and into the new open space, while helping ragoons pushing into stain setting up bases there for the big push into delve.
while the north, should push hard into Fountain. afterall BoB will destory the North alliance if they are given the time.
so its important that they fight hard.
Once you****s are down, it should be a nice push into fountain.
Others whom dont like bob should come down the low sec pipe to shakt and make life there hard for bob and pets.
if thees basic plans are done bob wil be out of delve in 6 months.
goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
ah and start banning whiners cause every post looks same when goons start to reply - waste of time
*8564 goons member*
I agree. Goons are the worst. Did you know that the period can be used for more than ellipsis?
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General StarScream
THE DECEPTIC0NS
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:01:00 -
[28]
Well alot of people hate bob, they asked for it, they want everyone in eve to attack them. and so they shall get the fury of the wild, they have it comming for a long time now.
alliance that join the fight vs bob and pets now, will get o rich o rich i tell you. ++ the personal feeling of killing bob the most evil Alliance in EvE. They must die GOD WILLS IT.
Its not like its hard, they still have like 5 fronts to defend. BOB WILL FALL just a matter of time now, they know they cant pay the pos fuel for long, soon they will be forgoten and a new power shall come, it will be in the name of the holy Sig Removed. Dont use inappropriate language in sigs -Kaemonn |

Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:05:00 -
[29]
Goons will be our new mining residents in Tenal afaik. Signature removed again. Do not undo a moderators actions again. Mail us at [email protected] if you have a query - Valorem
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End Yourself
Core Domination Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:09:00 -
[30]
real life military background   
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. |

Meleia
Satanic Red
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:14:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Scavok
Originally by: Meleia
Yes, that must be the plan. But BOB must realize that Goonswarm might relocate 100% to Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, and thereby offset the gains by pulling back. There is no need to stay in crap regions anymore when Goonswarm can live deeper down south in some of the best regions in the game. Just look at Feythabolis region, its far superior to anything the Goons have right now. Its also very strategical positioned close to BOB, IAC, AAA, etc.
There's nothing in feyth that's any better than Scalding Pass, Southern Detorid, or Eastern Tenerifis. The main clusters of stations in each of the regions are in really good trusec with Angel rats and Arkonor. The only thing Esoteria has to offer that's any different is Sansha rats.
Scalding Pass have two constellations that are any good, one have 4 systems with -0.75 in sec status, the other constellation have 2 ok systems, 4-C and Q4C. The rest of the region is ****. Same with Detorid, have a few good systems like OEG, FMH, etc, but nothing really exceptional. Eastern Tenerifis is really good though, and should be kept even if you Goons relocated of course. (if you do)
Esoteria is not a very good region, but have a few good systems like Detorid, like BZ- and BY-. Its very much like Detorid if you check it out.
Feythabolis is supreme. DB1R-4 (-0.95 with 20 belts), D4-2 (-1.0 with 18 belts), RIT triangle, etc. But most of all its strategical position!
Paragon Soul is small but still have nice systems like G-M4 (-1.0 with 13 belts) and O-N (-0.93 with 17 belts), etc.
bla bla bla
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:36:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Meleia There's nothing in feyth that's any better than Scalding Pass, Southern Detorid, or Eastern Tenerifis. The main clusters of stations in each of the regions are in really good trusec with Angel rats and Arkonor. The only thing Esoteria has to offer that's any different is Sansha rats.
Scalding Pass have two constellations that are any good, one have 4 systems with -0.75 in sec status, the other constellation have 2 ok systems, 4-C and Q4C. The rest of the region is ****. Same with Detorid, have a few good systems like OEG, FMH, etc, but nothing really exceptional. Eastern Tenerifis is really good though, and should be kept even if you Goons relocated of course. (if you do)
Esoteria is not a very good region, but have a few good systems like Detorid, like BZ- and BY-. Its very much like Detorid if you check it out.
Feythabolis is supreme. DB1R-4 (-0.95 with 20 belts), D4-2 (-1.0 with 18 belts), RIT triangle, etc. But most of all its strategical position!
Paragon Soul is small but still have nice systems like G-M4 (-1.0 with 13 belts) and O-N (-0.93 with 17 belts), etc.
bla bla bla
belts.... 
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Meleia
Satanic Red Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:39:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Maksiim
Originally by: Meleia There's nothing in feyth that's any better than Scalding Pass, Southern Detorid, or Eastern Tenerifis. The main clusters of stations in each of the regions are in really good trusec with Angel rats and Arkonor. The only thing Esoteria has to offer that's any different is Sansha rats.
Scalding Pass have two constellations that are any good, one have 4 systems with -0.75 in sec status, the other constellation have 2 ok systems, 4-C and Q4C. The rest of the region is ****. Same with Detorid, have a few good systems like OEG, FMH, etc, but nothing really exceptional. Eastern Tenerifis is really good though, and should be kept even if you Goons relocated of course. (if you do)
Esoteria is not a very good region, but have a few good systems like Detorid, like BZ- and BY-. Its very much like Detorid if you check it out.
Feythabolis is supreme. DB1R-4 (-0.95 with 20 belts), D4-2 (-1.0 with 18 belts), RIT triangle, etc. But most of all its strategical position!
Paragon Soul is small but still have nice systems like G-M4 (-1.0 with 13 belts) and O-N (-0.93 with 17 belts), etc.
bla bla bla
belts.... 
Yes, belts. You know, the thing the whole EVE economy is based on? Ore? Rats/Bountys? No? Well, nvm. I dont expect empire mission runners to know about these things... 
"But, the psychiatrist adds that griefers could also just be mentally ill, whether they're depressed, have a psychotic disorder, or substance abuse problems." |

Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:57:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Meleia
Originally by: Scavok
Originally by: Meleia
Yes, that must be the plan. But BOB must realize that Goonswarm might relocate 100% to Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, and thereby offset the gains by pulling back. There is no need to stay in crap regions anymore when Goonswarm can live deeper down south in some of the best regions in the game. Just look at Feythabolis region, its far superior to anything the Goons have right now. Its also very strategical positioned close to BOB, IAC, AAA, etc.
There's nothing in feyth that's any better than Scalding Pass, Southern Detorid, or Eastern Tenerifis. The main clusters of stations in each of the regions are in really good trusec with Angel rats and Arkonor. The only thing Esoteria has to offer that's any different is Sansha rats.
Scalding Pass have two constellations that are any good, one have 4 systems with -0.75 in sec status, the other constellation have 2 ok systems, 4-C and Q4C. The rest of the region is ****. Same with Detorid, have a few good systems like OEG, FMH, etc, but nothing really exceptional. Eastern Tenerifis is really good though, and should be kept even if you Goons relocated of course. (if you do)
Esoteria is not a very good region, but have a few good systems like Detorid, like BZ- and BY-. Its very much like Detorid if you check it out.
Feythabolis is supreme. DB1R-4 (-0.95 with 20 belts), D4-2 (-1.0 with 18 belts), RIT triangle, etc. But most of all its strategical position!
Paragon Soul is small but still have nice systems like G-M4 (-1.0 with 13 belts) and O-N (-0.93 with 17 belts), etc.
bla bla bla
0.0 isn't about isk.
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CLEISTHENES2
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:03:00 -
[35]
We are in process of also moving our gear out to empire. Total loss estimated for BNC is in the hundreds of billions, all poses are being stripped in delve and fountain. See what happens in the future.
More news about the other bob corps to be announced.
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BoB sucks
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:18:00 -
[36]
Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 We are in process of also moving our gear out to empire. Total loss estimated for BNC is in the hundreds of billions, all poses are being stripped in delve and fountain. See what happens in the future.
More news about the other bob corps to be announced.
You are so cute.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:18:00 -
[37]
Using my real life experience as the president of several nations, I can pretty much conclude that this thread is not very good.
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Banlish
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:20:00 -
[38]
From a strategic stand point, this is a smart move by BoB and company. If you look at things on the influence map, Impass is poised like a dagger to cut off Feyth, (always wondered why AAA didn't just jump down and take AZN since it's 6 jumps from a AAA conquerable station.) Catch was pushed forwards a bit, giving a good buffer zone where BoB capitals don't have to make that long distance jump.
The only thing I keep hearing people ask is why give up ISS's sov 4 constellation. But I don't think even ISS will say it's in the top for PvP alliances.
Some other benefits: 1. Shortened distances to go for fights. 2. Reduced number of station system Deathstars to fuel/maintain/protect. 3. Increase coalition number of POS's needed to be deployed for stations/outposts/jump bridge highways 4. As stated before, bring BoB allies into a concentrated area for defense as as well as offensive operations. 5. Maybe cause some disentition in the coalitions side over the massive number of outposts/stations that are up for grabs.
I'm not saying it will happen, but there are currently the following outposts up for grabs if BoB is indeed pulling up all stakes and letting them go neutral: 1. Estoria: 9 2. Feyth: 6 3. Paragon: 5
Any outposts not listed are already in RSF hands.
That's 20 outposts to divvy up, that gives RSF a nice giant logistical as well as political headache that they probably didn't see coming. Will it be a massive issue? No, of course not. But it probably has some people in all RSF alliances looking at those regions and not looking forwards to all the POS's that have to go up, as well as be moved down.
As to Goons or others moving?
Maybe.
Feyth is still considered the number one region in the game, but with complex's gone, that might have moved to Delve. Who knows, the fact that Feyth is better then Scalding Pass isn't really a major issue. Goons moving to Feyth in part, that's possible. Abandoning Scalding pass completely? I highly doubt it.
Tho if you look at it, there are alot of allies of RSF that could use space, or take back former homes. (the former ASCN splinter alliances like Val, Inv, etc.) There are also a bunch of alliances I don't know of that have been fighting down there on RSF's behalf, not sure what they were promised but space is usually a primary bargaining chip.
Another option would be to expand current entities space and do a 'shuffle' Examples are KOS getting former Digital Renegade space, AAA getting the AZN outpost chain, Venom alliance getting another outpost to their current one, etc. etc.
But there's also the final option: The primary alliances that have been slowly leapfrogging space and setting up jump bridges to connect it all just keep going: Red, Goons, UNL, and TCF. They get it, setup, then bring the Free Trade Zone alliance into all of it, fill it with renters/miners and just keep pushing against the South-West.
While the coaltion has to figure out what to do with all the new space and logistics, BoB theoretically could bring a relief force up and attempt to save YouWhat. But with YouWhat being pushed so hard by Tri's side they might have already written YouWhat off and just be preparing heavier defenses as well as supply shipments into the southwest before it gets 'swarmed' things like POS fuels, Extra tech 2 supplies, etc. etc.
Wow sorry for the length of this post, I have enjoyed seeing the tactics and strategy employed by both sides in this war. It will be interesting to see what BoB does next, as well as what RSF will do in the next few weeks.
**Sets the Influence map as homepage for firefox**
Cheers.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:29:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Meleia Hmm, looking at the map here, and if the Goons evacuate Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek and Detorid (maybe only keep a small presence there), and leave those regions to Red Alliance, they could concentrate all their forces in Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, calling in Red Alliance capitals and special forces if/when needed.
If this would happen, and they get settled in these three regions, there is no way in hell that BOB will take back those regions, or in any other way defeat the "RaGoons" in any military way, any time soon now.
There must be someone with a real life military background (like me) who can see this in BOB as well?
I very much like all of your ideas. I hope you continue to post and want to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Mr Broker
Amarr Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:35:00 -
[40]
Wylker 
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:21:00 -
[41]
mene mene tekel up-russians.
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Natas Dog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:26:00 -
[42]
Originally by: ciapek goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
ah and start banning whiners cause every post looks same when goons start to reply - waste of time
*8564 goons member*
Look how stupid you are. Good to hear that FIX's eyes and ears in Goonswarm are keeping you abreast of developments since we left Syndicate. I personally enjoy all the ellipses in your paragraphs, as well as the spaces before and after each punctuation mark; it made for really easy reading as I went through your incoherent rambling. If only more goons posted like you, CAOD wouldn't be such a mess. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last is usually the one the joke was about. |

Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:30:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Meleia
belts.... 
Yes, belts. You know, the thing the whole EVE economy is based on? Ore? Rats/Bountys? No? Well, nvm. I dont expect empire mission runners to know about these things... 
Pea-mind.
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Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:39:00 -
[44]
We can only hope. ..i.. |

spanky herman
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:44:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Scavok I'm taking notes, keep the advice coming please.
Okay here is the master plan:
You build a huge wooden titan called Torjan - When bob takes it back to their home system it pops open with 1000's of noobships inside and death and mayhem ensue.
> And now I have to go time for my medication >
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Shayleigh Snowflower
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:51:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Meleia Hmm, looking at the map here, and if the Goons evacuate Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek and Detorid (maybe only keep a small presence there), and leave those regions to Red Alliance, they could concentrate all their forces in Feythabolis, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, calling in Red Alliance capitals and special forces if/when needed.
If this would happen, and they get settled in these three regions, there is no way in hell that BOB will take back those regions, or in any other way defeat the "RaGoons" in any military way, any time soon now.
There must be someone with a real life military background (like me) who can see this in BOB as well?
Goons have control of 2 out of the 9 or so allready fallen stations in Feyth. Yes. Goons must be relocating... No doubt..
Can I have some of them serpentine pills you are eating? I really really would like to see what you are seeing..
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mynewfaceomg
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:53:00 -
[47]
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k Rose
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:54:00 -
[48]
Next
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 16:00:00 -
[49]
Originally by: mynewfaceomg
It looks as if he's about to say something...
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Natas Dog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 16:04:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Attak
Originally by: mynewfaceomg
It looks as if he's about to say something...
He's about to say:
Quote:
goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
I thought it sounded as if were coming from an alien and ungoony person. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last is usually the one the joke was about. |

Massiv3
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Posted - 2007.10.27 16:05:00 -
[51]
My mom told me BoB will pos spam until goons quit EVE
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Ouroboron
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 16:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Cvuos Using my real life experience as the president of several nations, I can pretty much conclude that this thread is not very good.
Using my real life experience as one of the gorilla fighters who helped overthrow two of those Presidencies for lolz, I easily conclude that his conclusion is correct.
No, I didn't spell it wrong. When I'm not overthrowing governments, I fight gorillas.
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Anaryel Nayik
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.27 16:58:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Cvuos Using my real life experience as the president of several nations, I can pretty much conclude that this thread is not very good.
Win
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k Rose
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:14:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Massiv3 My mom told me BoB will pos spam until goons quit EVE
NO!! NO!! LV tried that...
Grins
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:18:00 -
[55]
Originally by: ciapek
goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
ah and start banning whiners cause every post looks same when goons start to reply - waste of time
*8564 goons member*
Wow, you sure showed them. Damn.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:24:00 -
[56]
BoB is losing the war and their retreat is a sign of that. no one ever won a war on the deffensive, for an RL example look at tom cruise when he fought the aliens in War Of the Worlds. He had to make love to his ex-wife and the birds that had bacteria.
I know this cause i live inthe drone regions.
Its very boring here now that fergie ferge is gone I driks alots
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:31:00 -
[57]
Originally by: ciapek goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
ah and start banning whiners cause every post looks same when goons start to reply - waste of time
*8564 goons member*
If only I could teach you a lesson in my T1 frigate! 
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DEFCON4
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:48:00 -
[58]
Edited by: DEFCON4 on 27/10/2007 17:54:05 Edited by: DEFCON4 on 27/10/2007 17:53:22
Now is the time for the North alone with TRI take out YouWhat and push into Fountain, The Northern Alliance Push into Fountain and GOON and allies continue the pressure in the South. Bargin and Give TRI all of youwhat space and the Northern alliance Take over Fountain. BOB can not afford to split their forces now. Even if the Northern alliance Start making hits in Fountain it will have to draw BOB attention. BOB allies can no way handle the North alone and keep anyone out of Fountain. It's Like Germany 1944,a 2 front war, but the north has to strike now, its a perfect time to strike and strike hard now into Fountain.
BOB will not recover if they are removed from the south and even if they fought hard in the South no way they will recover all what was lost. Their pets are no help really.
Well BOB is in a defense mode and its pets are retreating. that spells over all retreat. The Northern attact into Fountain is the Nail inthe Coffin I feel , it will surely put BOB on defense in all areas. For now on as long as the GOONS are in the South BOB can not make a serious strike in the north fearing another attack from GOON in BOB home Systems. A FOUNTAIN ATTACK BY THE NORTH IS THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR BOB.
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Annie Cruz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:56:00 -
[59]
i have relocated
my pants _____________________________________________________________
fire 59 > your a ******* moron, define nerd, do they kickbox, weight train, go running, do the marathon, work hard, socialise, you **** |

Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:56:00 -
[60]
Originally by: DEFCON4 Edited by: DEFCON4 on 27/10/2007 17:54:05 Edited by: DEFCON4 on 27/10/2007 17:53:22
Now is the time for the North alone with TRI take out YouWhat and push into Fountain, The Northern Alliance Push into Fountain and GOON and allies continue the pressure in the South. Bargin and Give TRI all of youwhat space and the Northern alliance Take over Fountain. BOB can not afford to split their forces now. Even if the Northern alliance Start making hits in Fountain it will have to draw BOB attention. BOB allies can no way handle the North alone and keep anyone out of Fountain. It's Like Germany 1944,a 2 front war, but the north has to strike now, its a perfect time to strike and strike hard now into Fountain.
BOB will not recover if they are removed from the south and even if they fought hard in the South no way they will recover all what was lost. Their pets are no help really.
Well BOB is in a defense mode and its pets are retreating. that spells over all retreat. The Northern attact into Fountain is the Nail inthe Coffin I feel , it will surely put BOB on defense in all areas. For now on as long as the GOONS are in the South BOB can not make a serious strike in the north fearing another attack from GOON in BOB home Systems. A FOUNTAIN ATTACK BY THE NORTH IS THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR BOB.
Says who? Maybe they will go invade Cache for the lolz.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:57:00 -
[61]
Originally by: DEFCON4 Edited by: DEFCON4 on 27/10/2007 17:54:05 Edited by: DEFCON4 on 27/10/2007 17:53:22
Now is the time for the North alone with TRI take out YouWhat and push into Fountain, The Northern Alliance Push into Fountain and GOON and allies continue the pressure in the South. Bargin and Give TRI all of youwhat space and the Northern alliance Take over Fountain. BOB can not afford to split their forces now. Even if the Northern alliance Start making hits in Fountain it will have to draw BOB attention. BOB allies can no way handle the North alone and keep anyone out of Fountain. It's Like Germany 1944,a 2 front war, but the north has to strike now, its a perfect time to strike and strike hard now into Fountain.
BOB will not recover if they are removed from the south and even if they fought hard in the South no way they will recover all what was lost. Their pets are no help really.
Well BOB is in a defense mode and its pets are retreating. that spells over all retreat. The Northern attact into Fountain is the Nail inthe Coffin I feel , it will surely put BOB on defense in all areas. For now on as long as the GOONS are in the South BOB can not make a serious strike in the north fearing another attack from GOON in BOB home Systems. A FOUNTAIN ATTACK BY THE NORTH IS THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR BOB.
STOP POSTING I driks alots
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:10:00 -
[62]
Goons are not leaving going to relocate from a capital constellation, that would be insane and pointless. Also, any discussion of mass invasions and either BoB or goons dying is pointless, this war has months left in it.
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Fabrice Enchante
Gallente Active Measures
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:15:00 -
[63]
Don't forget that BOB kicked one giant, bloated alliance out of Feythabolis. It hasn't been that long ago...
I don't have a military background (though I do play a lot of wargames). The word that comes to mind is "untenable".
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Sacrosanctus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:32:00 -
[64]
This is the worst thread
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:48:00 -
[65]
Originally by: dastommy79 BoB is losing the war and their retreat is a sign of that. no one ever won a war on the defensive, ..................
Russia?
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:54:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: dastommy79 BoB is losing the war and their retreat is a sign of that. no one ever won a war on the defensive, ..................
Russia?
What is this Russia? I driks alots
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k Rose
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:56:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Fabrice Enchante Don't forget that BOB kicked one giant, bloated alliance out of Feythabolis. It hasn't been that long ago...
I don't have a military background (though I do play a lot of wargames). The word that comes to mind is "untenable".
yes - seen them flying around Gamis an such..  ore thieves. "why didn't BOB just take them out totally  | thats old news?
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:59:00 -
[68]
It's funny how many of you look at the flat 2D map and think fronts in Eve have to move like they do on the History Channel. Speaking of that channel:
Originally by: Kaaii
Russia?
I'm pretty sure the war ended with Russians in Berlin. If you reply to this post with "but but after stalingrad hurf durf" you will get permabanned by CCP, you will lose your job and your eyebrows will irreversibly merge.
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:02:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Kaaii on 27/10/2007 20:06:03
Originally by: Cvuos It's funny how many of you look at the flat 2D map and think fronts in Eve have to move like they do on the History Channel. Speaking of that channel:
Originally by: Kaaii
Russia?
I'm pretty sure the war ended with Russians in Berlin. If you reply to this post with "but but after stalingrad hurf durf" you will get permabanned by CCP, you will lose your job and your eyebrows will irreversibly merge.
But but stalingrad...you can ignore the facts, that deosn't make them less true..
Russia drew them in, cold hard winter did the rest....much like what(s) happening now...
Just bring rope....
"Goons are like a box of chocolates, melting when the heat is on.."
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:07:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: dastommy79 BoB is losing the war and their retreat is a sign of that. no one ever won a war on the defensive, ..................
Russia?
Greece, Persian war? R0adkill, K25?
Lots of other examples might come to mind but those are a couple of my favorites. 
Koronos
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ColonelKurtz
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:07:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: Cvuos It's funny how many of you look at the flat 2D map and think fronts in Eve have to move like they do on the History Channel. Speaking of that channel:
Originally by: Kaaii
Russia?
I'm pretty sure the war ended with Russians in Berlin. If you reply to this post with "but but after stalingrad hurf durf" you will get permabanned by CCP, you will lose your job and your eyebrows will irreversibly merge.
But but stalingrad...
Russia drew them in, cold hard winter did the rest....much like what(s) happening now...
Just bring rope....
are our space ships going to freeze and all the 7-11s that supply us with our canned cheese and *****ers going to have to close up shop?
Eve-Online is nothing like world war two, have fun with that unibrow****got.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:14:00 -
[72]
I went to delve and suddenly my AC kicked on and it got to like 62 degrees in my house.
Coincidenc i think not.
BTW i was talking about in eve. Please dont make ww2 to eve coralations, its bad mkay. I driks alots
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:35:00 -
[73]
There is no galatic WAr at all.
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Bastables
Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:03:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: dastommy79 BoB is losing the war and their retreat is a sign of that. no one ever won a war on the defensive, ..................
Russia?
........... meh in this you ignore the numourus counter offensives the Russians lunched (failed and sucessful) including the counter offensive at Moscow. What we don't see is Stalin pulling a BOB and saying: that's it chaps the Germans are too close post a video and we'll form a defensive line past the ural mountians. Be reclaimed, and be loved
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:37:00 -
[75]
Having a military background makes you quickly realize that anyone who claims to know what's going on "based on having a military background" is a complete idiot.
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:42:00 -
[76]
Like, 2 archons just jumped through Hysera. --------------------------
"There's always a bigger blob."
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:48:00 -
[77]
We're just exporting democracy into feythabolis and esoteria.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:51:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Kaaii
But but stalingrad...you can ignore the facts, that deosn't make them less true..
Russia drew them in, cold hard winter did the rest....much like what(s) happening now...
Just bring rope....
"Goons are like a box of chocolates, melting when the heat is on.."
CCP please ban this character from Eve Online. Employer, please fire this person. Eyebrows, please irreversibly merge. World war 2 analogies, please go away forever. When you guys randomly mash your keyboard with flailing arms and words like "fronts" and "supply lines" and "cold winter" end up on a forum you just show that you don't know how 0.0 warfare works. Initiative, opportunity and resources depends on the mechanics of Eve Online, not the stuff you see on the History Channel.
tl;dr stop posting
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Bethy San
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.10.28 03:10:00 -
[79]
Goons have all their jump clones, npcing ships, industry and production back in scalding they arent about to leave all the security of a home so far away from the war, and to keep making money to fight bob in that bliss. But ultimately it comes down to RA... U dont want RA with all that space back there to run. they would come less to the parties and if that happened.... well goons would be...well... just goons without RA and would die in the spectacular way they do. Nothing really in this war has been done without RA.... and as my mind continues to scan for an instance i still cant think of one significant thing done on the RSF's side that didnt involve RA
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Shinori
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 03:16:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Bethy San Goons have all their jump clones, npcing ships, industry and production back in scalding they arent about to leave all the security of a home so far away from the war, and to keep making money to fight bob in that bliss. But ultimately it comes down to RA... U dont want RA with all that space back there to run. they would come less to the parties and if that happened.... well goons would be...well... just goons without RA and would die in the spectacular way they do. Nothing really in this war has been done without RA.... and as my mind continues to scan for an instance i still cant think of one significant thing done on the RSF's side that didnt involve RA
I can't either, they should just call us "R" tbh imo
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Vyres
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 04:11:00 -
[81]
Originally by: ciapek
Originally by: General StarScream best ide now, is a full attack on delve and fountain.
Wich bob and pets are setting up large death defence stars all over.
the war is far from over.
What bob are doing with the move they doing now, is to give the Ragoons a sense of victory. But they havent won anything, they need to push like a pregnat woman, get it all the way out into the light and give birth to the master plan.
Now is the time they should push everything into the fight.
Bob is short handed with bad moral.
they trying to get smaller space with bottel necks to defend, while leaving a large space open.
Ferge should move from the drone region and into the new open space, while helping ragoons pushing into stain setting up bases there for the big push into delve.
while the north, should push hard into Fountain. afterall BoB will destory the North alliance if they are given the time.
so its important that they fight hard.
Once you****s are down, it should be a nice push into fountain.
Others whom dont like bob should come down the low sec pipe to shakt and make life there hard for bob and pets.
if thees basic plans are done bob wil be out of delve in 6 months.
goons never won anything
and they need ferge to move ... maybe they need some more help, 5k alliance got help from at least 4 other allincess in total forcess of 1/3 of whole eve and they need more, ive idea you to join goons, get into mr.smith community and win eve ! numbers are almost a win button but even having that you have problems, willsee whats happen next, those noobs of yours which get prepared plan what to learn what and how to fly hehe noob soldiers they, yes what are they ? just goons, hmmm on level that they smack each other on forums making ppl just skip topics and in game wow wow over 5000 ( plus how many total in tcf aaa ra and what else? ) and still cant do much :D waiting for time that goons will have to fight alone its gonna be like duck hunting, btw bob invented DD T2 ha ha ha so go open another topic and cry about
and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
ah and start banning whiners cause every post looks same when goons start to reply - waste of time
*8564 goons member*
THE TEARS THEY ARE SO BITTER ! yeah the goons suck they just wiped rise corm soco (dr even though those guys are cool and seperiate in my mind) in one month god why dosent goons just roll over and die. Oh wait thats right because they just pressed bob into losing 3 regions so bob didnt have to go through the same thing with exe,aa,iss,tsc in the next month. Nothing to see here folks just move along.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 05:11:00 -
[82]
I'm loving all these fantastic strategic minds meeting in one thread.
Let me summarise this thread in terms of the reasons why GS is failing and will soon disband.
* kicking alliances out of regions * killing ships full of loot and bpos * gaining sov * RSF is going to settle down in these wonderful new regions and turn into carebears
BoB will win because
* they're retreating
I can only hope Meleia gets promoted from washing hummer engine parts in petrol to a job with more fresh air.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Quote: Astarte Nosferatu > You'd mind if I ask for your asl? SirMolle > eh?
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.28 05:11:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Cvuos CCP please ban this character from Eve Online. Employer, please fire this person. Eyebrows, please irreversibly merge. World war 2 analogies, please go away forever. When you guys randomly mash your keyboard with flailing arms and words like "fronts" and "supply lines" and "cold winter" end up on a forum you just show that you don't know how 0.0 warfare works. Initiative, opportunity and resources depends on the mechanics of Eve Online, not the stuff you see on the History Channel.
tl;dr stop posting
I really shouldn't be posting any more in this thread, much less posting drunk in this thread, ya anyway, but the one thing that is good from a lot of goon posting is a healthy acquaintance with irony, sarcasm, and a post-post-modern understanding of internet humor. Given the absolute, complete lack of any of that (that I can detect anyway) in your post I can only say, coming from a goon, lmgdmfao.
Koronos
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Vyres
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 05:16:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Koronos
Originally by: Cvuos CCP please ban this character from Eve Online. Employer, please fire this person. Eyebrows, please irreversibly merge. World war 2 analogies, please go away forever. When you guys randomly mash your keyboard with flailing arms and words like "fronts" and "supply lines" and "cold winter" end up on a forum you just show that you don't know how 0.0 warfare works. Initiative, opportunity and resources depends on the mechanics of Eve Online, not the stuff you see on the History Channel.
tl;dr stop posting
I really shouldn't be posting any more in this thread, much less posting drunk in this thread, ya anyway, but the one thing that is good from a lot of goon posting is a healthy acquaintance with irony, sarcasm, and a post-post-modern understanding of internet humor. Given the absolute, complete lack of any of that (that I can detect anyway) in your post I can only say, coming from a goon, lmgdmfao.
Koronos
See this post plays up another side of goonhood that is just as strong as the things you mention but less known. NEEEEERRRDDDD RAAAAAGGGGEEEEEE all goons have it. Just some of us are passive agressive enough to post on EVE-O
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Sacrosanctus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 05:17:00 -
[85]
Armchair general-ing in eve may be amusing in your head but please please for the love of God do not type what you are thinking and then hit Post Reply.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 06:14:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Koronos
Originally by: Cvuos CCP please ban this character from Eve Online. Employer, please fire this person. Eyebrows, please irreversibly merge. World war 2 analogies, please go away forever. When you guys randomly mash your keyboard with flailing arms and words like "fronts" and "supply lines" and "cold winter" end up on a forum you just show that you don't know how 0.0 warfare works. Initiative, opportunity and resources depends on the mechanics of Eve Online, not the stuff you see on the History Channel.
tl;dr stop posting
I really shouldn't be posting any more in this thread, much less posting drunk in this thread, ya anyway, but the one thing that is good from a lot of goon posting is a healthy acquaintance with irony, sarcasm, and a post-post-modern understanding of internet humor. Given the absolute, complete lack of any of that (that I can detect anyway) in your post I can only say, coming from a goon, lmgdmfao.
Koronos
You just got trolled son!
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Tetsujin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 06:26:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Tetsujin on 28/10/2007 06:26:30
Originally by: Koronos Edited by: Koronos on 27/10/2007 20:29:29
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: dastommy79 BoB is losing the war and their retreat is a sign of that. no one ever won a war on the defensive, ..................
Russia?
Greece, Persian war? R0adkill, K25?
Other examples might come to mind but those are a couple of my favorites. 
Koronos
Edit: btw, much love for dastommy, and in fact Greece won that war by attacking the invading forces before they reached Athens, and maybe Roadkill is the exception that proves the rule? 
holy christ       
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Darklin Eldaris
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:30:00 -
[88]
Originally by: EvilFlyingMonkey I think you will notice that their allies are retreating, it makes no reference to what the bob forces are doing.
Their approach is simple really, get all their allies into once concentrated position so not only can their allies help each other and them in a more concentrated effort, but also, bob forces don't have to travel so far to help them.
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!
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Darklin Eldaris
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:38:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Meleia
BOB fighting for their survival in their home region will for sure be the most motivated and hardest hitting force EVE have ever seen. It will be totalhelldeath for any power that tries to get a foothold in that region.
I don't wanna sound like a BoB fanboy here, but I'll be damned if this isn't a true statement. I mean BoB are some rich SOB's, we can AT LEAST give them that.
Given that, I mean dudes just think of the POS spam, and then breifly after you think of the POS spamming think of the kittens and puppies and other cute furry creatures like prairie dogs and sugar gliders that would for sure be killed in any battle for delve.
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Kif
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 09:21:00 -
[90]
All the goon space-jews are aching to get their claws into some juicy new sansha rats, just you wait
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 09:38:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kif All the goon space-jews are aching to get their claws into some juicy new sansha rats, just you wait
In before the "JEWS?!?! I TOLD YOU GOONS WERE RACIST!"
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 12:36:00 -
[92]
Originally by: ciapek and some smack: does goons figured out frigate fit that survives DD or still working on it ?
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Bethykins
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.10.29 20:59:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Bethykins on 29/10/2007 21:00:33 *8564 goons member*
THE TEARS THEY ARE SO BITTER ! yeah the goons suck they just wiped rise corm soco (dr even though those guys are cool and seperiate in my mind) in one month god why dosent goons just roll over and die. Oh wait thats right because they just pressed bob into losing 3 regions so bob didnt have to go through the same thing with exe,aa,iss,tsc in the next month. Nothing to see here folks just move along.
LOL rise was under seige for like 6 months same with CORM and SOCO, and count their numbers in relevence to what was thrown at them even if they lasted a month it was longer then LV with alot less numbers lol. But seeing how rise was told to evacuate end of augest and its quoted off both a bob vent convo and rise forums by a goon member... i think your time dates are slightly off by a bit ;)
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Natas Dog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.29 21:02:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Bethykins Edited by: Bethykins on 29/10/2007 21:00:33 *8564 goons member*
THE TEARS THEY ARE SO BITTER ! yeah the goons suck they just wiped rise corm soco (dr even though those guys are cool and seperiate in my mind) in one month god why dosent goons just roll over and die. Oh wait thats right because they just pressed bob into losing 3 regions so bob didnt have to go through the same thing with exe,aa,iss,tsc in the next month. Nothing to see here folks just move along.
LOL rise was under seige for like 6 months same with CORM and SOCO, and count their numbers in relevence to what was thrown at them even if they lasted a month it was longer then LV with alot less numbers lol. But seeing how rise was told to evacuate end of augest and its quoted off both a bob vent convo and rise forums by a goon member... i think your time dates are slightly off by a bit ;)
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.29 21:06:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Bethykins Edited by: Bethykins on 29/10/2007 21:00:33 *8564 goons member*
THE TEARS THEY ARE SO BITTER ! yeah the goons suck they just wiped rise corm soco (dr even though those guys are cool and seperiate in my mind) in one month god why dosent goons just roll over and die. Oh wait thats right because they just pressed bob into losing 3 regions so bob didnt have to go through the same thing with exe,aa,iss,tsc in the next month. Nothing to see here folks just move along.
LOL rise was under seige for like 6 months same with CORM and SOCO, and count their numbers in relevence to what was thrown at them even if they lasted a month it was longer then LV with alot less numbers lol. But seeing how rise was told to evacuate end of augest and its quoted off both a bob vent convo and rise forums by a goon member... i think your time dates are slightly off by a bit ;)
stop posting
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WoHen Nankan
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.10.30 12:29:00 -
[96]
feyth, esoteria and paragon soul are going to Groon
many Bothans died to bring you this information
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Vyres
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 12:33:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Bethykins Edited by: Bethykins on 29/10/2007 21:00:33 *8564 goons member*
THE TEARS THEY ARE SO BITTER ! yeah the goons suck they just wiped rise corm soco (dr even though those guys are cool and seperiate in my mind) in one month god why dosent goons just roll over and die. Oh wait thats right because they just pressed bob into losing 3 regions so bob didnt have to go through the same thing with exe,aa,iss,tsc in the next month. Nothing to see here folks just move along.
LOL rise was under seige for like 6 months same with CORM and SOCO, and count their numbers in relevence to what was thrown at them even if they lasted a month it was longer then LV with alot less numbers lol. But seeing how rise was told to evacuate end of augest and its quoted off both a bob vent convo and rise forums by a goon member... i think your time dates are slightly off by a bit ;)
look at dat fukken post. 
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ardik
TunkbwahCorp
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Posted - 2007.10.30 12:49:00 -
[98]
goons are actually relocating to delve and fountain~~
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.10.30 13:55:00 -
[99]
Originally by: CommanderInChief The funny thing is your all worried about Goons/BoB I think you better look over your shoulder at Tri, as you lot are fighting this war Tri are becoming more and more powerful..
First YouWhat? What next Razor? MM?
Shush mofo. ----------------- Friends Forever
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Zell Shadowcast
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 14:05:00 -
[100]
Originally by: WoHen Nankan feyth, esoteria and paragon soul are going to Groon
many Bothans died to bring you this information
Groon gets syndicate and solitude
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frank frank
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 14:59:00 -
[101]
Posting in a thread about stuff.
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 15:02:00 -
[102]
frank frank those are some pretty hefty man **** in your sig did you know that
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.30 15:20:00 -
[103]
Originally by: ardik goons are actually relocating to delve and fountain~~
Originally by: The Mittani see you in NOL, lawl
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