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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.28 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 28/10/2007 14:10:56
 Originally by: me bored
They pulled this on a judge and he closed the door and shot himself.
Pix or it didn't happen.
And really anyone getting dewy eyed over the despicable perverts getting burned in this should go have a look at Perverted Justice. Really. Human ****. They've got it coming.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: me bored
Originally by: SoftRevolution
Perverted Justice
They have to be one of the most morally bankrupt organizations I've ever come across. They actually have child abuse victims acting as judge jury and executioner in their little entrapment schemes.
It would only be entrapment if the people involved wouldn't have acted in the way they did were it not for the PJ people.
Are you suggesting that simply "giving them enough rope" so to speak is the same as making them do it?
Lets ignore for a moment the fact that the people they sting are actively looking for children to send pictures of their uglies too and pose a hypothetical - if by accident you ended up chatting to one of their bait members, would you wind up getting "entrapped"?
Yeah to be sure, it's not very fair and finding perverts on the internet is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel. Still slapstick comedy though.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.28 23:02:00 -
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As I understand their methodology, it is the perverts doing the contacting, not the other way around so it's more a case of you asking an undercover police officer unprompted to sell you DVDs.
And how is this "coercing" precisely?
Quote:
co+erce (kō-vrs') pronunciation
tr.v., -erced, -erc+ing, -erc+es.
1. To force to act or think in a certain way by use of pressure, threats, or intimidation; compel.
2. To dominate, restrain, or control forcibly: coerced the strikers into compliance. See synonyms at force.
3. To bring about by force or threat: efforts to coerce agreement.
Which of those definitions does this conform to?
Now since I doubt these wonderful people would do any of those things with a policeman looking over their shoulder (and if they would, they need locking up for different reasons) I am inclined to believe that they are choosing to commit a crime.
They're just stupid enough to do it on national television.
If their impulse control is that poor then I'm glad they're getting snared by decoys.
As I suggested above it's not like any normal person would fall for their Jedi mind tricks.
The alternative argument would almost seem to run along the lines of "It's reasonable for someone to not be able to resist the prospect of a willing 12 year old"... :/
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.29 03:13:00 -
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The difference obviously being killing a child with your car isn't something you would set out with intent to do.
Strawmen work much better if they even vaguely resemble whatever it is you're attacking 
Point of interest, if every time you left your drive way you drove like you intended to commit vehicular manslaughter you'd probably get picked up for something.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.29 23:41:00 -
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As far as I know it's more about clearup rates and making things socially unacceptable than just penalties per se.
Live somewhere where the Police catch the vast majority of burglars and said burglars neighbours won't tolerate it and it's basically not going to happen.
Doesn't matter what the penalty is if people think they're going to get away with it.
You also need to ensure that people still have something to lose if they commit a worse crime so skipping straight to the really over the top punishments probably isn't as effective as you would imagine.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.30 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 30/10/2007 15:36:46
I love how these social Darwinism types always give you the impression that they think they would be the ones to survive.
Hands up who thinks Derovius Vaden got the good stuff, genetically speaking 
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That's right chap. In my master-race you'd be getting castrated and sent to tend the terrier farms... until I needed kidney 
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