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Lyl Libido The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:07:00 - [1] As topic states.... I think the one nerf i totally wish never happened was the dual-MWD ability....nothing more comical then dual mwd ravens etc...imagine what a nano-domi with rigs + 2 mwd would do...lol -Lyl Libido The Taining Corp
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:15:00 - [2] I bet this thread eventually turns into a list of every change ever made
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:17:00 - [3] Nos nerf
Barbens	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:18:00 - [4] Taking away my 15 drone Vexor...
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:25:00 - [5] surprised this hasnt been said. The DMG mod stacking nerf.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:30:00 - [6] Originally by: twit brent surprised this hasnt been said. The DMG mod stacking nerf. Stacking-nerf in general, TBFH. Not just the damage mod. _ 1\|2\|3
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:34:00 - [7] the time delay restriction between posts really kills those boring days at work I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear What do zombies and forum posters have in common? They like to sit about and moan!
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:41:00 - [8] three bloody guesses SKUNK
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:48:00 - [9] system scanner nerf? I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear What do zombies and forum posters have in common? They like to sit about and moan!
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:51:00 - [10] Originally by: Le Skunk three bloody guesses SKUNK Heh, I'm gonna guess rats at gates. -_^ Mine personally would be a toss-up between nos and the stack nerf. Not that the changes were unneeded, just that I would've liked to see them done differently.
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:54:00 - [11] Originally by: Lyl Libido I think the one nerf i totally wish never happened was the anti-nerf whiner nerf. ___________ I learned to accept ship changes months ago. Suddenly I enjoy Eve. You should try it some time.
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.28 06:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Le Skunk three bloody guesses SKUNK Yours is an interesting case because they screwed one alliance specifically, in a clear example of selling out to get subscriptions. I just get all worked up frothing mad every time I think about it and felt compelled to post how I empathize.
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2007.10.28 06:32:00 - [13] ROF bonus on the Drake back in its beta test.
Incantare Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.10.28 06:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker ROF bonus on the Drake back in its beta test. This.
Unvisibility	Posted - 2007.10.28 06:40:00 - [15] The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox.
Clueless Alt	Posted - 2007.10.28 06:52:00 - [16] Change of missiles years ago. Damn, 4 cruise on kessie was pretty fun. A stealth bomber before their appearance.
StinkFinger Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.10.28 07:04:00 - [17] mega pulse nerf...amarr used to be good ;( Originally by: Karanth That's like sitting on your hand till it goes numb, so it's like a stranger. It's not as satisfying, and I'LL know the difference.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.10.28 07:24:00 - [18] WTZ. Worst nerf ever. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Khrillian Minmatar Khaos Heavy Industries Order of Khaos	Posted - 2007.10.28 07:36:00 - [19] Stacking Penalties. Damage mods used to stack without penalty. It was awesome.
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. what he said -----------
CrayC Gallente CrayC Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:11:00 - [21] My Robotics trade-runs
Umit Davala Corpus PCG The State	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:37:00 - [22] They removed one of my Hurricane's hardpoints. While it was still in the womb Or maybe the bio nerf. Everything else seems pretty reasonable with hindsight.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:39:00 - [23] ECM, even though it happened just as I started playing.
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:42:00 - [24] Edited by: Slave 775 on 28/10/2007 08:44:09 Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. This one. I can live with the privateers nerf but WTZ is awful. Its like playing EVE on easy mode.
Umit Davala Corpus PCG The State	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. This one. I can live with the privateers nerf but WTZ is awful its like EVE on easy mode. I disagree. Theres nothing challenging about having to create a gajillion instas. Its just a pain in the arse.
iiOs	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:48:00 - [26] HP "BUFF", and DM mod stacking
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Umit Davala Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. This one. I can live with the privateers nerf but WTZ is awful its like EVE on easy mode. I disagree. Theres nothing challenging about having to create a gajillion instas. Its just a pain in the arse. I forgot to mention disallowing BMs in a 100km range on station and gates.
Yakumo Smith Gallente When Darkness Falls	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:52:00 - [28] Nos I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Umit Davala Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. This one. I can live with the privateers nerf but WTZ is awful its like EVE on easy mode. I disagree. Theres nothing challenging about having to create a gajillion instas. Its just a pain in the arse. I forgot to mention disallowing BMs in a 100km range on station and gates. This. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Dirk Magnum Red Light Enterprises Eastern Star Federation	Posted - 2007.10.28 10:41:00 - [30] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 28/10/2007 10:44:36 Chopping the size of in-game bios so badly. And who doesn't like WTZ, seriously? Everyone already had a set of instas to every destination they ever regularly visited anyway. Adding WTZ to autopilot would be too generous though.
Owi Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.10.28 10:46:00 - [31] Narcotics Nerf ! They killed our profession ! F***in LP stores :/ My EvE-Files.com folder !
Kosa Mosapiel	Posted - 2007.10.28 10:50:00 - [32] #1 - Privateers I lost a lot of respect for ccp because of the whole alliance 'p' thing #2 - nos something needed to be done but imo ccp picked the wrong solution. Hey, who am i to judge them. I just miss my pilgrim. Although it is a nice planter now. I've got a decent shrubbery growing on it
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.28 10:59:00 - [33] God lord. First time I hear people cry about nerf tactics. :( --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:01:00 - [34] The Capital 400% HP buff. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Lt Angus Caldari the united	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:03:00 - [35] Privateers, small gang/solo pvp without cap ships, drool Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Raul Rincon Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:05:00 - [36] Privateers, definitely. Had some of my best early-days PvP against them. Originally by: CCP Abraxas "Her boyfriend's way hot, too; tall and tanned. And I say this as a very hetero male who doesn't ever dream of the man on cold, dark nights."
Oki Riverson Amarr The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:05:00 - [37] Nos Nerf i suppose. i did like my pilgrim as a solo pirate ship. but hey, role on the Sentinel ;) should be fun until it gets nerft.
Lucius Dracus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:06:00 - [38] The Amarr Nerf. _______________________________________________ Commander of the Imperial Naval Auxilla
Hilly22222 Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:07:00 - [39] my goddam bio nerf...
Faroe	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:10:00 - [40] 1 Nano nerf , had to happen but imo should have been done another way 2 Bio nerf , cant get anything fun in there now 3 War nerf , yeah we all hated the privets but they where what eve is all about
Alyth Gallente Ma-Ven Industries Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:11:00 - [41] Originally by: Lucius Dracus The Amarr Nerf. This (the stacking nerf) and the original torpedo nerf! Bring back my 750m/s 2 minute flight time torpedos that could one shot stupid inties! Oh and yeah the web nerf too.....I want my 20 second cycle webs back!
Wizard The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:15:00 - [42] Stacking peneltys. Back in the first year of eve, combat was absolutely manic, fast and quick. There were ships i would think twice about atacking back then but not anymore, the only factor making me think twice about engaging someone now is whether they got support. Dual mwd raven 8 hs geddon overpowered scorp Now everyhthing is just so so.... Without Reason corp website ^^looking for a PvP corp with little stress then
Ather Ialeas Amarr Exercitus Solus	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:17:00 - [43] Too many to choose from, hmm... On Monday I'd say - stacking penalty nerf On Tuesday I'd say - Privateer nerf On Wednesday I'd say - NOS nerf On Thursday I'd say - HP buff vs damage nerf, latter would've been better On Friday I'd say - AB/MWD percentage boosts (wasn't around then but I actually would prefer the very old ones) On Saturday I'd say - Contracts which nerfed escrow On Sunday I'd say - Revelations map which killed the old one, sort of a nerf in it's sense. Since it's Sunday I think I have to whine about the map. MAP RABBLE RABBLE USELESS RABBLE NO POINT IN NAVIGATING RABBLE LAGS RABBLE RABBLE -
Higgous Gallente Divine Retribution	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:21:00 - [44] 1) Amarr DPS nerf 2) Nos Nerf 3) Privs Nerf - They made empire entertaining BUT Nerfs i'm happy with: 1) Missile Nerf 2) ECM Nerf 3) The new gallente nerfs 4) Nano Nerf 'Lister to Red Dwarf....'
DeadManCommingThew	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:21:00 - [45] NOS Some ships needed it to compete, others were imba with it. Now the NOS ships don't work at all, and the imba one's are more imba then ever with the neut/nos combo
Miss CJB Gallente In White Suits	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:23:00 - [46] the second HP buff.
Ubaricous Fat Children with Opinions	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:24:00 - [47] EANM buff, which was also an effective nerf to lasers, which now takes up half of the ships/mods forums. Recruiting!
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:26:00 - [48] Drake nerf - both because it wasn't really necissary and it wasn't really effective. You used to have an unkillable brick with no ability to kill anything but ****s. Now I have an annoyingly hard to kill brick that still can only kill ****s. Thus the drake collects dust somewhere and only gets pulled out to test someone else's DPS...
area51 Gallente S0S Brigade	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:27:00 - [49] The 15 drones I used to control...
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:28:00 - [50] The nurf to my sig, i had to add "text that is directly related to my in-game persona" to it, and now its ugly - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Miang Hawwa	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Reem Fairchild ECM, even though it happened just as I started playing. +1
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:34:00 - [52] The removal of the area effect of torpedos...
Evolyze Caldari Original Pirating Material	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:38:00 - [53] Originally by: Raul Rincon Privateers, definitely. Had some of my best early-days PvP against them. Defo priv for me, Some of the best eve times i have had. Dunno what happend but what ever nerf killed the game after last summer aswell.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. Exactly. Ignore the man behind the curtain! This is a player driven game! Originally by: Big Al Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:41:00 - [55] Originally by: Ather Ialeas On Sunday I'd say - Revelations map which killed the old one, sort of a nerf in it's sense. Since it's Sunday I think I have to whine about the map. MAP RABBLE RABBLE USELESS RABBLE NO POINT IN NAVIGATING RABBLE LAGS RABBLE RABBLE Agreed, the "seamless map" is garbage. 101 things they could fix, and they pick the map.
jason hill Caldari Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:42:00 - [56] the mines nerf way back when destroy everything you touch
Paeniteo	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:45:00 - [57] Originally by: Higgous 1) Amarr DPS nerf 2) Nos Nerf
Tao Han Perkone	Posted - 2007.10.28 12:02:00 - [58] Whatever change it was that changed EVE from an RTSish game to Counter-Strike in space. Today its all about topping the killboards. ------ snip Your signature image is password-protected. -Rauth Kivaro([email protected]) I know, CEO was being a tard. -Tao
Ilvan	Posted - 2007.10.28 12:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Tao Han Whatever change it was that changed EVE from an RTSish game to Counter-Strike in space. Today its all about topping the killboards. I think it's the players that are responsible for that. Too much exposure to ****ty team-based FPSs and now everyone thinks that's the pinnacle of entertainment.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.10.28 12:25:00 - [60] Originally by: Tao Han Whatever change it was that changed EVE from an RTSish game to Counter-Strike in space. Today its all about topping the killboards. ...right. And the people with the highest K/D ratios are so winning EVE right now? Back to the subject, I don't think that there is any nerf that I actually regret that it happened, but there are plenty of them that I wish could have been done differently. The ECM nerf for example, multispectrals on every ship was definitely bad, but that Scorpion has gone from "obligatory in every fleet" to "Scorpion, where and what?" and that the only ships using ECM are Blackbirds and Recons...then it has gone a bit over the top. I can't remember the last time I saw a griffin. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.10.28 13:13:00 - [61] Introduction of signature radius. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.28 13:33:00 - [62] hp buff. Oh and taking away my 8 heavy drone rax
Zilkin Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.28 13:57:00 - [63] Privateers nerf by far. I honestly couldn't believe what I saw when reading the devblog explaining it, well CCP sure managed to disappoint me there. I even would have agreed that raising the war costs against alliances a bit would have been in order but this argghh...Well CCP it's never too late to un-nerf it even just a little :)
Lavinrac Krad Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:08:00 - [64] The biggest and most unnecessary nerf in my opinion in my short time here (10 months) was the Privateers nerf. Poor helpless n00b corps can do what they do now when war dec'ed, leave the corp when dec'ed and rejoin when the Dec is canceled. The only people Privateers could have attacked in a meaningful way, where alliances with a heavy empire presence. So that is my choice as the worst nerf. -Sig Starts- When people say "I hate the people who think a MMORPG should be played 'THEIR' way" it is usually because the MMORPG is being played "THEIR" way. THE NERF BAT COMETH!
Mr Ignitious Gallente Kingpins	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:18:00 - [65] Edited by: Mr Ignitious on 28/10/2007 14:18:52 it seems to me privateers nerf was before my time so i have no idea what your talking about there... although i wish the 15 drones in space would come back, oooo so much fun =) or perhaps my very own nano phoon? the bio lenght nerf was just stupid too... i mean really, why??
hedfunk Caldari Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:37:00 - [66] Privs, like so many other people have said.
Sebesto Minmatar Destination Unknown	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:38:00 - [67] The CCP Nerf. It is the nerf to prevent CCP from nerfing stuff that doesn't need to be nerfed. Ie, Nos, Carriers, Ect. Fix problems first, then worry about messing with the game and ticking people off.
Macro Slasher	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:40:00 - [68] Introducing sentry guns to the gates in empire.
Chr0nosX Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.28 14:56:00 - [69] EANM nerf.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 15:08:00 - [70] Privateer nerf
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2007.10.28 15:19:00 - [71] Originally by: Le Skunk three bloody guesses SKUNK Worst nerf from my view - Not sure how many subs CCP lost from that one but i know of at least 4 accounts from my corp that left over it.
Emsigma Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.28 15:38:00 - [72] Edited by: Emsigma on 28/10/2007 15:38:22 You are all wrong! The worst "nerf" in the game was to implement killmails. It nerfed PvP from being fun and excitening to killboard whoring and blob/ganking. Apart from that, I think that every single nerf this far has been reasonable and game balance improving. Stacking nerf should be there on damage mods and ew etc, but I think that hardeners should be unaffected tbh. Edit: The privateer nerf was of course stupid as well and counter productive. ---
Soulita Gallente Inner Core	Posted - 2007.10.28 15:52:00 - [73] Worst nerfs imo 1) Privateer nerf 2) BM nerf (i h8 warp to zero) 3) Nos nerf 4) Freighter nerf (dropping of cargo) 5) BIO nerf
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Division of Eden	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:08:00 - [74] 1. Privateer nerf although my corp are not privateers. 2. Nano Nerf, it killed off a lot of good hauler setups that got a standard hauler past gate camps. 3. Mod stacking in general. 4. Upcoming carrier nerf, it's really unnecessary and will cause more blobbing. 5. Drone nerf. I remember being able to field 10 drones. The WTZ was a necessity that encouraged more people to populate lowsec and remove lag causing instas but the nano nerf killed it completely. Now, it's almost impossible to get away from a gate camp in anything less than a fast cruiser so a BS or BC going from highsec into lowsec is rare unless it has a full rack of stabs. --
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:27:00 - [75] Well, guess someone has to say it, but none. CCP think it's the way it should be, then they change it. That's how MMOs work and faster one learns it, the happier one can be My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:39:00 - [76] Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. .... shakes head.... go to 0.0 you dumb ass. eve is a sanbox, in 0.0 repeat after me, in 0.0 eve is a sandbox. in high sec eve is a sandbox, it's just not a happy hello kitty online world that you wanted. privateers where the that the carebear pirate community had to offer "we want fun with no risk!" sounds like Moo... ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:40:00 - [77] bio nerf... grrr ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
digitalwanderer Gallente Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:44:00 - [78] I can't really narrow it down to a single thing,or even a small batch of them,but in my 4+ years of playing the game,it's a general feeling that the game is seriously watered down from it's original form,in order to apppeal to more people,and lost it's edge,especially given the stupid amounts of isk that's possible to make these days,within a few weeks of starting to play it,no matter what you do in the game. Add the much faster skill training times,since the advanced learning skills are out,and that +4 implants are dirt cheap these days,and there's no sense that skills really take a long time to train for,because the vast majority don't. I still remember the days when you had to work for weeks(both isk wise,and training time wise),to even get into a cruiser,nevermind a battleship,wich took me over 3 months of work to even finance the first one...That gentlemen was hardcore,and truly reflected the harshness that was eve,but also made you proud to make it happen... These days,a battleship is almost as disposable as a frigate was in the old days,and in my view,the insane amount of isk that's possible to make today,directly contributes to these massive battleship/capital ship Blobs seen in fleet operations of large aliances,wich can replace losses at will if they're well organized,and makes lag and desyncs a constant,everyday problem,no matter how much hardware is shoved into the server. Capital ships by definition should be rare ships,and the fact that it's easier to get into a dreadnaught today,in terms of isk cost,than it was in the old days when you wanted to go from a cruiser to a battleship,and that according to a recent dev blog,there are over 10 000 capital ship pilots,is disturbing to say the least....Eve is already turning into capital ship online.
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:45:00 - [79] The addition of warp to zero making travel far to quick and easy. There should have just been some restriciton on BMs themselves instead of making the game even easier.
Amaron Ghant Caldari Ascent of Ages Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:46:00 - [80] Originally by: Gariuys The removal of the area effect of torpedos... That gets my vote as well. Had intense comedic value
Uberapan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:15:00 - [81] Privateers, easily. You could always find fun by getting a cheap ship and fly around shooting at them. It's difficult to find that kind of PVP in Eve these days. That was fun, huge blobs where you have 10 minute lag isn't. Miners whined a lot like they just HAD to be in the heavily trafficked systems, but it was easy to avoid them if you had half a brain.
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:27:00 - [82] The privateers nerf. Such a disappointment to see such a meaningless nerf. San Matari Official forums
Lt Angus Caldari the united	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:46:00 - [83] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. .... shakes head.... go to 0.0 you dumb ass. eve is a sanbox, in 0.0 repeat after me, in 0.0 eve is a sandbox. in high sec eve is a sandbox, it's just not a happy hello kitty online world that you wanted. privateers where the that the carebear pirate community had to offer "we want fun with no risk!" sounds like Moo... Privs was riskiest thing around, thats why we loved it so much, ive lost 1 ship in 2 months compared to the 90 i lost in 6 months of priv and 0.0 is a sandbox as long as you play with fleet shaped buckets Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Gone'Postal Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:52:00 - [84] Originally by: Amaron Ghant Originally by: Gariuys The removal of the area effect of torpedos... That gets my vote as well. Had intense comedic value QFT ---- \0/ CCP SlideShow Games \0/ "Eve" Proof that <1FPS games can still generate income.
Hozac	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:57:00 - [85] Privateers by far.
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:58:00 - [86] Roll back to Castor!!
Shin Ra Origin Unknown.	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:04:00 - [87] Stab nerf tbh
Wanna Kill Caldari Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:11:00 - [88] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. .... shakes head.... go to 0.0 you dumb ass. eve is a sanbox, in 0.0 repeat after me, in 0.0 eve is a sandbox. in high sec eve is a sandbox, it's just not a happy hello kitty online world that you wanted. privateers where the that the carebear pirate community had to offer "we want fun with no risk!" sounds like Moo... Wait, what. Fun with no risk? Skunk, I honestly cant remember how many targets we had at the same time, nevermind our PvP weekends! Can you please refresh my memory from the good days? We were constantly being hunted by several gangs from different alliances, coupled with our inability to do anything to the scout-alts which constantly followed us around when we werent flying in small groups of fast ships. It was, however, incredibly hillarius to read battlereports afterwards to see 2 different gangs trying to catch us, with their different approaches to it. Anyway, the difference between 0.0 and empire being, that it was never a POS race in empire, stupid bubble camps didnt exist, and everyone had to go there - people who only flew in empire anyway, and people who had to get supplies. We were constantly being chased, but we were also constantly chasing people. My god was that a blast. We could do whatever we wanted, no Killboard race, and if I found myself far away from ''home'' some day because of a hunt, well, no biggie, I still had loads of targets. Good lord how I miss it, come to think of it ----------
Raul Rincon Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:29:00 - [89] Should just ask CCP to think of an alternative arrangement for the Priv. Nerf. I miss having to watch my back everywhere I went Originally by: CCP Abraxas "Her boyfriend's way hot, too; tall and tanned. And I say this as a very hetero male who doesn't ever dream of the man on cold, dark nights."
Galactic reporter Minmatar Galactic reporter independant news corp	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:31:00 - [90] - Privateer Nerf - System scanner Nerf - Carrier Nerf
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:36:00 - [91] Originally by: Shin Ra Stab nerf tbh how in the world did i know you were gonna say that
Tuschii Filthy Scum	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:36:00 - [92] Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Umit Davala Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. This one. I can live with the privateers nerf but WTZ is awful its like EVE on easy mode. I disagree. Theres nothing challenging about having to create a gajillion instas. Its just a pain in the arse. I forgot to mention disallowing BMs in a 100km range on station and gates. This Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches
Boomershoot Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:38:00 - [93] nerf remote sensor boosters Originally by: 'CCP Nozh' We did not expect the requests to prematurely end dear Zulupark's existence in this universe, some of which were very imaginative
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:39:00 - [94] A lot of nerfs directly affected me... but the Privateer nerf was by far the worst. CCP sold out, plain and simple.
Zenobite The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:42:00 - [95] HP bluff or a damage nerf depending on what way you look at it, didn't make combat last any longer just encouraged bigger and bigger blobs. WTZ I know it had to be done because of the millions of BMs, but it seem to make eve smaller and it was nice having a home field advantage, also I liked stupid things like having to bounce off a gate to be aligned for the next insta (always fun when you were being chased)
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.10.28 18:49:00 - [96] Edited by: Cpt Fina on 28/10/2007 18:49:28 I can't think of any nerf that was uncalled for tbh. But CCP almost always nerf stuff too hard. Instead of balancing they usually ruin the thing people complained about and makes it useless.
Wanna Kill Caldari Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:00:00 - [97] Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 28/10/2007 18:49:28 I can't think of any nerf that was uncalled for tbh. But CCP almost always nerf stuff too hard. Instead of balancing they usually ruin the thing people complained about and makes it useless. Wouldn't want to nerf the same stuff twice, would we. Exception being what ArmyOfMe is specializing in ----------
Dirk Magnum Red Light Enterprises Eastern Star Federation	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:00:00 - [98] I agree that adding sentry guns in .1 to .4 and taking away torps area effect were sucky nerfs. I believe both happened before my time (May '06), but whatever. WTZ might be better balanced if you made ships more vulnerable when exiting gates in low sec, since they can be threatened by things other than those that can't tank sentries (merely reducing sentry DPS would be a good start.) I saw a few people complain about the NOS nerf, but I think that one was excellent. NOS ships were utterly game breaking for their opponents if the opponent was in a smaller ship class (particularly if the opponent is equipped for PvE), as I know from being on the receiving end of NOS attacks many times (they account for all my player-related deaths outside of 0.0 / war, in fact.)
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:02:00 - [99] Originally by: Wanna Kill Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 28/10/2007 18:49:28 I can't think of any nerf that was uncalled for tbh. But CCP almost always nerf stuff too hard. Instead of balancing they usually ruin the thing people complained about and makes it useless. Wouldn't want to nerf the same stuff twice, would we. Exception being what ArmyOfMe is specializing in What's wrong with adjusting something in several steps untill you got it balanced?
DscoutPSA Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:07:00 - [100] Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. and Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. These. Not sure of the order though equal First would do it.
Stakhanov The Good Fellas	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:24:00 - [101] The privateer nerf was by far the worst. A real shame , privateers were regulating the overgrown population of empire carebears , and help adjust the risk/reward balance - if you join a large 0.0 alliance , you get pirates on your tail. Originally by: F'nog One does not simply log into Jita.
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:33:00 - [102] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. .... shakes head.... go to 0.0 you dumb ass. eve is a sanbox, in 0.0 repeat after me, in 0.0 eve is a sandbox. in high sec eve is a sandbox, it's just not a happy hello kitty online world that you wanted. privateers where the that the carebear pirate community had to offer "we want fun with no risk!" sounds like Moo... You know privateers had to declare war on someone, thus opening themselves up to the same medicine they were dishing out. The carebear community just whined hard and CCP sold out for the money. They knew they would gain more by making Empire hello-kitty online (Which is basically is now, and more and more every patch) and leaving 0.0 for sandbox. Disappointing.
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:52:00 - [103] Privateer nerf. I had the pleasure of being a privateer war target a few weeks ago and really, it was some of the most fun I've had in eve, ever. Mostly becuase it seems like the people who join privateers are the ones looking for smallish fights in Empire (as well as the opportunity, for, well, piracy.) Small gangs, no bubbles, that stuff. I like WTZ personally because yes, really, you already had it if you had a set of instas. Removing them apparently alleviated some of the lag, removed the necessity of having a 20 million set of bookmarks to navigate through if you want to go into 0.0, and really as long as you can't autopilot on WTZ I really don't see a problem. My second least-favorite nerf: Removal of the 8th turret on the harbinger >:O __________________________________
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.28 19:57:00 - [104] The Jenny Spitfire nerf -----
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:20:00 - [105] The "Privateer nerf" wasn't a "nerf" to the Privateer Alliance. It was a much needed fix to a severely broken war declaration system.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:27:00 - [106] Originally by: Reem Fairchild The "Privateer nerf" wasn't a "nerf" to the Privateer Alliance. It was a much needed fix to a severely broken war declaration system. Incorrect - The nerf was publicised by CCP themselves as a nerf to "Alliance P". This post was then altered when our members picked up on it. It was a specific nerf to our alliance. SKUNK
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:28:00 - [107] Originally by: Reem Fairchild The "Privateer nerf" wasn't a "nerf" to the Privateer Alliance. It was a much needed fix to a severely broken war declaration system. WTS: Clue.
magnus amadeus Amarr Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:30:00 - [108] Originally by: DscoutPSA Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. and Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. These. Not sure of the order though equal First would do it. I agree.... even though I hated the privateers something fierce, I miss em now that they are gone. _________________________________________________ Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you down with experience.
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:33:00 - [109] Privateer nerf and Warp to zero. WTS: Armageddon / Void L / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:44:00 - [110] Escrow nerf, every time I just want to browse contracts I get seriously annoyed by what piece of crap contracts really are. The search function especially annoys the hell out of me, if it would only work like the market search it would make it light years more usable than it is now. /me takes a deep breath.
Mister Xerox	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:54:00 - [111] The nerf that made NPC corps invulnerable to wars. The introduction of massive mining vessels (barges) in highsec & usable by nuub schools. NOS nerf (badly done) Upcoming carrier logistics nerf (game killer, IMO).
Ja'kar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.28 20:56:00 - [112] Worst ever was wt0 and for gods sake - Yes they had to deal with BM's no WT0 was not the only way to do it! wt0 was lazy and turned eve yet again one more move towards easy mode
Aleria Angelis Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:12:00 - [113] Edited by: Aleria Angelis on 28/10/2007 21:14:07 The NOS nerf, hit drone ships quite badly imo. This upcoming drone bandwidth "feature" will only nerf them more EDIT: Kinda agree with the ex privateers aswel, EVE does seem to be getting increasingly less challenging (And I dont just mean for newbies)
Arenis Xemdal Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:14:00 - [114] The nerf to travel time.
Dave White Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:14:00 - [115] Edited by: Dave White on 28/10/2007 21:16:18 Nos nerf by far. Nos nerf was indeed needed, but what they did was overkill. They hit it with the nerfbat untill there was nothing left. Same goes for the privateers-nerf. Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
chiefyuk Amarr No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:59:00 - [116] Privateers nerf is the worst thing ccp have ever done to this game... ever! It really shows ccp care little about their game :\ WTZ is a good thing imo. ------------------------------------------------ You can kill the protester but you cant kill the protest ------------------------------------------------
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.28 22:04:00 - [117] Originally by: Wanna Kill Skunk, I honestly cant remember how many targets we had at the same time, nevermind our PvP weekends! Can you please refresh my memory from the good days? o/ Well, we tried to maintain around 50 wars a week, the vast majority against the biggest alliance in the game. We decced the biggest alliances both in an attempt to do to them what they were doing (and indeed are still doing) as a matter of course in 0.0 Try flying out into 0.0 and youll get bubbled,insta webbed, and 50 guys will rush to get a shot in on you to sneak on the killmail. This is done under the preposterous guise of "defending our territory" It also made sense to dec the biggest alliances in a pure isk per target ratio i.e more targets to shoot at. The repeated and eroneous claims that we were out to kill noobs in small corps stemmed from the occasional wardeccing of a small corp. These were normally wardeced due to them smacktalking/thieving loot/passing on intel/being a 'drop out' corp for the big alliances seeking to haul in empire unmolested whilst flexing their muscles out in 0.0 Having their cake and eating it. The last week of the privateers saw us having 222 wars, 140 of the biggest alliances, 70,000 targets as a protest against CCP and the multi alt carebear whiners. It was also widely reported as the most fun week ever had in game. Unfortunately - only having one DEV alt in the alliance - despite a furious forum battle we had insufficient swing to fight the nerf. SKUNK
Bigeasy Caldari Shadow Of The Light	Posted - 2007.10.28 22:11:00 - [118] Taking away splash damage to torpedo's And the extreme range nerf of torpedo's, cmon 40k? should be 60k Big Let them hate, so long as they fear-Caligula
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2007.10.28 23:23:00 - [119] Originally by: Akita T Stacking-nerf in general, TBFH. Not just the damage mod. or Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. A new tool in the fight for balance?
R Mondavi	Posted - 2007.10.28 23:46:00 - [120] Originally by: Le Skunk SKUNK Having read your obnoxious posts for years now, allow me to take this oppurtunity to say : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Seriously. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Seeing little whiny *****es like yourself squirming about the dreadful unfairness of it all is just priceless. You can have endless wars in 0.0, and you can have plenty of wars in empire. Spin it all you want, griefy, it was a broken system. And in case I didn't make myself clear: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.28 23:53:00 - [121] Originally by: R Mondavi alt post Well if youve been reading my posts for years - you must have a character that is older tehn the 1 month old alt you are using. Suggest you post with it, if you expect to be taken seriously. Also it will then give me a chance to look the name up on the killbaord and find out exactly what you lost when we popped you to make you so bitter. Its ammusing that in a thread where i mention multi alt forum spammers - an alt forum spammer pops up. SKUNK
Stuart Price Caldari Havoc Inc	Posted - 2007.10.29 00:03:00 - [122] Missile nerf. Bring back cruise-kessies and non-sig based missile damage! Or then again, maybe not. Sometimes balance is, um, balanced. It was proper funny though. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
R Mondavi	Posted - 2007.10.29 00:11:00 - [123] Hehe. I'm about 98% sure I never lost anything to Privateers. See, I live in 0.0, up in the North. I deal with real mean pvpers. Triumvirate's T2 roaming gangs are about 100x as (dangerous\|honorable\|enjoyable) as you guys ever were to anyone with half a brain. Why post with an alt? Well, you see out here in the real world of Eve (you know, the one that doesn't involve ganking iteron 3's and retrievers) there are much bigger issues to consider. Rather than ****ing people off or getting yelled at and destabilize my cushy spot in 0.0, I'll take a comfortable safe potshot at one of the major boners on the forums. You're familiar with that "easy route" right? Anyways, I could go on and on about how idiots like yourself whine about the nerf to the sandbox on the one hand and then whine about assorted "invalid" things like blob warfare on another. Or about how entity X (in this case CCP) ruined things for entity Y (you), ignoring the fact that that's basically what the entire intent of your alliance was. But I won't - I'm just here to deliver a little well deserved laughter at your obnoxious forum whoring ass. RIP Privatears (lol)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.29 01:25:00 - [124] Edited by: Le Skunk on 29/10/2007 01:28:02 Originally by: R Mondavi Alt Post Meh. Your 98% certainty's is a bit fishy. Post with your main and I can check the killboards for you :) The 'real world of eve' you mention tends to dismiss alt posts like yours, but Ill take the time to reply (im a obnoxious forum ***** after all) The forced jovility in your post, peppered with "hehehe's" "hahahah's" and "lol's" does little to disguise how seriously bitter you are. Whether you did or you didn't lose a ship, your 'real mans alliance' would have. Your co-pilots would have. They would have taken heavy losses, have been locked down in empire, and indeed been affronted that their 0.0 hogging, cap ships, bubbles and bloated egos meant exactly nothing when fighting us in Empire. Which was the genius of the alliance (not my idea btw i should point out) The playing field was leveled for a time. Twas a lot of fun. SKUNK P.S 'Real Men Pvp in 0.0' .. aint heard that for a while. Makes me want to dig up my old foum banner. EDIT It should be noted the privateer alliance is still up and running, and im told theres still plenty of fun to be had. People are free to go try them out. Contact their CEO for information.
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.29 01:35:00 - [125] Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Umit Davala Originally by: Slave 775 Originally by: Bellum Eternus WTZ. Worst nerf ever. This one. I can live with the privateers nerf but WTZ is awful its like EVE on easy mode. I disagree. Theres nothing challenging about having to create a gajillion instas. Its just a pain in the arse. I forgot to mention disallowing BMs in a 100km range on station and gates. This would completely break the game. With the possible exception of covops, you'd never be able to enter lowsec again with anything valuable without an escort gang of sufficient size to chase off a mothership.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:13:00 - [126] Laser nerf.
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:16:00 - [127] Duel MWD's and oversized MWD's :((
Dravin Dread	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:18:00 - [128] CCP nerfed my personality. It took many years of SP time to get it just right and then they came along and nerfed it hard. IÆm just about to give up on ever getting those SP back.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:18:00 - [129] the nerf that led to the other nerfs
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:18:00 - [130] Warp to 0 Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
DaveW Caldari South Park Development	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:25:00 - [131] Nighthawk passive Tank. Why must every Nerf be a 'dumb down'? Why not RAISE the ablities of other ships in the class if you think there is such a problem ? --------------------------------------------------- "If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen."
mechtech Silver Snake Enterprise	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:34:00 - [132] System Scanner Man (The System Scanner radar used to be on the scan window, duh, makes sense ) WTZ (well, I would have liked another fix than taking warp in distance away all together)
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:39:00 - [133] i miss docking ur ship in a station but ejecting just before u hit the station so ur ship went in and u where outside in the pod. most probley a bug but i class it as a nerf.
prathe Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.10.29 04:52:00 - [134] Originally by: twit brent surprised this hasnt been said. The DMG mod stacking nerf. QFT signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) why dont you just tell me ?
aquontium Gallente Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.10.29 05:05:00 - [135] Funny how if you say "drone nerf" everyone asks which one.
Criza Amarr United Warriors	Posted - 2007.10.29 13:22:00 - [136] Worse nerf ever was the NOS nerf.....it **** up most of the ammar shipps....and after that the 2nd worse nerf will be the carrier nerf that they want to do (letting you get only 5 fighters out if you don't assign them and **t) http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0703/criza_120.bmp
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2007.10.29 13:27:00 - [137] Bio nerf Originally by: RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
Savant Hayt	Posted - 2007.10.29 13:30:00 - [138] Taking away the little map next to the scanner. Not really a nerf, but pointlessly annoying nontheless.
Saint Lazarus Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.29 13:44:00 - [139] Priv nerf was pretty messed up tbh, CCP dropped a few pegs for that... And I honestly think WTZ was teh worse nerf of teh game and dont think anyone can argue against it, it changed so much and was a terrible TERRIBLE solution to a bad problem. a Terrible and lazy solution... Anyone remember having to actually fly around our spaceships? that was fun ------------------------------
Madla Mafia The Dead Man's Hand	Posted - 2007.10.29 13:53:00 - [140] The Amarr nerf. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amarr - getting screwed since 2005.
Vasq Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.10.29 14:20:00 - [141] Originally by: Shevar Introduction of signature radius. this one Smoke me a kipper, i'll be back for breakfast!
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Hooligans Of War Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.29 14:35:00 - [142] Originally by: R Mondavi Hehe. I'm about 98% sure I never lost anything to Privateers. See, I live in 0.0, up in the North. I deal with real mean pvpers. Triumvirate's T2 roaming gangs are about 100x as (dangerous\|honorable\|enjoyable) as you guys ever were to anyone with half a brain. I really hope your main isn't blue to us. Jita fix: The distributed market hub
Cpt Angus Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.10.29 15:06:00 - [143] Privateers nerf, proved that he who whines loudest wins. Nice one. Bones heal and chicks dig scars
Standard Deviation	Posted - 2007.10.29 15:40:00 - [144] Scanner nerf by far...it was just pointless. At least the other ones had some shred of a reason.
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.10.29 15:45:00 - [145] the 8 MWD scorp, screw normal warp drives. Sigs are for losers. Yes this is a sig.
Plave Okice Gallente 0utlaws	Posted - 2007.10.29 16:05:00 - [146] Originally by: Le Skunk three bloody guesses SKUNK Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. Originally by: Kosa Mosapiel #1 - Privateers I lost a lot of respect for ccp because of the whole alliance 'p' thing Originally by: Lt Angus Privateers, small gang/solo pvp without cap ships, drool Originally by: Ather Ialeas On Tuesday I'd say - Privateer nerf Originally by: Higgous 3) Privs Nerf - They made empire entertaining Originally by: Raul Rincon Privateers, definitely. Had some of my best early-days PvP against them. Originally by: Evolyze Defo priv for me, Some of the best eve times i have had. Dunno what happend but what ever nerf killed the game after last summer aswell. Originally by: Roy Batty68 Originally by: Unvisibility The Privateers nerf. Totally destroyed the lie that EVE is a sandbox. Exactly. Ignore the man behind the curtain! This is a player driven game! Originally by: Zilkin Privateers nerf by far. Originally by: Lavinrac Krad The biggest and most unnecessary nerf in my opinion in my short time here (10 months) was the Privateers nerf. Originally by: hedfunk Privs, like so many other people have said. Originally by: Xtreem Privateer nerf Originally by: Soulita Worst nerfs imo 1) Privateer Originally by: Drizit 1. Privateer nerf although my corp are not privateers. Originally by: Uberapan Privateers, easily Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo The privateers nerf. Such a disappointment to see such a meaningless nerf. Originally by: Hozac Privateers by far. Originally by: Galactic reporter - Privateer Nerf Originally by: Stakhanov The privateer nerf was by far the worst. Originally by: Terianna Eri Privateer nerf. And that's not all the replies about us. As a pre and post nerf Privateer it's good to see so much support for Alliance P, especially from former enemies and victims. Alliance P made war fun for those who hate the capital blob. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Kolwrath Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.29 16:21:00 - [147] <sarcastic truth> For me it was the <insert exploited game mechanic here> nerf. I used to love using <insert exploited game mechanic here> and totally BBQ'ing noobs. It was so much more fun when <insert exploited game mechanic here> was in the game. Man CCP needs to roll back so we can use <insert exploited game mechanic here> again. </sarcastic truth> Shesh my whine o' meter is off the scale with this thread. CCP have made this game from the ground up. They have poured their hearts and souls into it. All of the nerfs were done for good reason(s). CCP does not just change things to **** off the player base. They do it to balance gameplay and fix issues and exploits that have come out of a whole lot of players using the game mechanics to gain a hopefully unfair advantage over their enemies. This happens all the time, and when it becomes a widespread problem they change things to remedy the situation. CCP is filled with intelligent people who know EVE, know its faults, its strengths and know where is going. (better than anyone in the player base I might add). Have faith in their wisdom and their abilities. Shesh.
ZegTheBrick Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.10.29 16:26:00 - [148] This may seem totally wierd coming from a 4 year old carebear who virtually never leaves empire, such as myself, but I liked EVE more way back in its first year when even undocking from a station in 1.0 felt like a risky buisness. Of course back then there was less population, so it was somewhat easier to get around without running into gate camps and such. But everywhere you went, it felt like you had to watch your back, because people could kill you anywhere. Even I outran Concord back in the days when they had setups vaugely resembling real ships and not intsaganks. Though, if EVE hadn't changed over the years, I would probably never had the chance to play with all the multi-million is toys I have today. Maybe it's just because it was all 'new' back then that I think it was better. It's a different game now, and I can still enjoy it in this different way. ... to pick a more specific nerf though, I'll have to choose the 'only 5 drones' nerf. I loved having 14 on my Vexor, it was just awesome.
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.10.29 16:44:00 - [149] 1) Nos nerf 2) Privateers nerf - at least the laggy exit from Jita 4-4 was somewhat fun when you got to watch people get blown to bits as you bumped into freighters trying to warp to the gates behind the station. It made empire feel alive.
Enjackah Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2007.10.29 16:48:00 - [150] nos nerf -- The universe sleeps and slumbers, led abound by the sounds of peace and safety... when around the corner comes destruction.
Surreptitious Isk Sink Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.29 17:05:00 - [151] #1 Priv Nerf Skunk Owns. Sorted as well. CCP sucks balls and I pray everyday for Goons to win and destroy the POS this game has turned into. I also pray everyday for more internal problems such as cheating and collusion that ultimately get exposed on Digg and other sites. No joke. Jokes on me, I keep paying. Syrup

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