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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.02.27 00:02:00 -
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"In a statement sent out earlier today the Secure Commerce Committee (SCC) announces that the cost for creating a new corporation will be increased to 1,500,000 isk in the very near future. The CEO of SCC, Laurene Afrostel, explains that SCC handles the paperwork for corporations and is getting swamped by the amount of small, insignificant corporations out there today"
I feel the need to make a stand early in this matter. I appreciate the comments SCC have put forward but have an inkling this is the thin end of the wedge to drive the simple smaller corps into oblivion. I admit that the corp structure invites people to make use of the benefits and have little regard for the fall-out, an example of which is the "ad-cans" that litter space and the offices taken hostage by the profiteers. Yes this I acknowledge.
However be warned my friends : Beware the leaky tap of this politicians ruse. This is a drip. The Price hike is a measure , or is it a slender lever into the devide between the smallest and the Mega corps?
I worry not for now but for the future. I wonder why the corps must have region wide assets and members in the Hundreds....
Yes I admit this is protectionist of me : I worry for my corp.. I am in the set-up stages. I want to present a corp that has a stable base, blueprints in the bag and ship assets ready to make a worthy impact in the space I inhabit.
I also admit I am no politician ...I am a simple man of simple means. I want a living that gives isk and social standing.
I do not wish to be a drone of many but more one of the few......a few good men.
(The Equal Oppurtunities Commission of Free Trade and Commerce have allowed the use of the male expression in this case for reasons of "quoting", this doesnot however limit the requirement underaken by all corps in the Equal Oppurtunties Act Section 14.a).
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.02.27 03:21:00 -
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What the hell are you on about. The price increase is for the creation of new corporations, not existing ones. This will have no effect on existing corps.
If you can honestly say you can't afford 1.5mil as a startup fee, then you really shouldn't have a corp in the first place.
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.02.27 07:57:00 -
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I dont care about the ISK for start up !
I care about the treatment of the small and the few ......
I see this as an emerging attitude towards the smaller corps.
And as ever people cry if the kitchen is too hot then get out!
Thats what the mega corps want.
Fewer corps , less competition and more people saying "YES" "YES" and "YES"
(Nice to see you have passion : so few have it nowadays).
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.02.27 08:59:00 -
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I care about the treatment of the small and the few ......
I see this as an emerging attitude towards the smaller corps.
I'm sorry but this is aimed entirely at the poeple that form 1-3 member corps to buy up office space to on-sell or to create a subdivision corp to get around concord sanctioned wars on them. While it won't stop most of it, SSC will now be at least making money out of it. It has nothing to do with removing smaller corps, if they wanted to do that they would increase office/factory/lab rentals by 1000% or have a monthly corp registration fee of 20mil.
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And as ever people cry if the kitchen is too hot then get out!
Thats what the mega corps want.
How big is your corp? how many mega-corps have you run? Why do you speak for people that you have no-idea about. I didn't tell you to get out, I just told you that if a startup corp can't afford a 1.5mil registration fee, they shouldn't be forming the corp yet.
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Fewer corps, less competition and more people saying "YES" "YES" and "YES"
Been to yulai lately? have a look at how many different corps there are flying through the system. I think we currently have more than enough corps in the universe, and if people really NEED to form a new corp, at least it will cost something now. The market is pretty horrendous at the moment due to massive competition to everything, unless you produce something that is limited to very few manufacturers, producers make very little margin on anything.
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(Nice to see you have passion : so few have it nowadays).
thankyou
Don't get me wrong, I am a member of a small corp and prefer it that way after being in a large corp, but this price rise does nothing other than make people think before they form a corp or reduces the aforementioned loophole in CONCORD sanctioned wars.
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.02.27 09:30:00 -
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I am the member of a small, but expanding corp.About 4 members only. But I do see the logic behind the SCC's actions.
Any way, 1.5 mil is not to hard to make, and it encourages the average citizen to work for their corps.
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MISS WITCH
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Posted - 2004.02.27 19:34:00 -
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small corps being made is a good move as all the game power is going straight to the super bloody corps.
stations in 0.0 who else can get them hmmmm super corps
0.0 mining again super corps
0.0 rat killing again super bloody corps
if your lucky to get into 0.0 yeah threatened killed podd killed and very harshed from time of arrival.
about time dev took a note for all the small corps in eve
fight the power kill super corps off ohh yeah thats right they wont do that cos they aint got the balls to.
about time dev made new space for super corps and the big allience's to fight for and let the small corps and solo people have a chance at growing into bigger corps
try and find a system in empire where you can find full belts for new players to mine free. ohh yeah you carnt.
0.0 rat killing kinda nice if in a bs but then again hitting 3 bs's in 1 belt aone in a apoc was kinda scary at first \o/ but when there buddies came along was not fun hehe
how come 85k cruiser where stringer to kill off then 250k bs
that my ***** over with :))
Please refrain from this overusage of the Capslock key... It hurts everyone's eyes  - Kindathey
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Bhurak
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Posted - 2004.02.27 19:58:00 -
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.....Pardon?
Bhurak Nossrep
Captain of theSebiestor Maiden
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Random Miner> Did you how steal my ore, lacked prospects or a bright future the thing you wanted me to take the fight airship to hit you
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.02.27 21:45:00 -
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My eyes! My eyes!
With that kind of rage, a Brutor would pale besides you!!!
Get off the Quafe!!!
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:50:00 -
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Miss Witch :Thanks for the contribution.
Can I suggest dropping the CAPS.
:)
Long live the little corps : may mega corps be mega corpse !
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.02.29 02:27:00 -
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Blame it on the uncountable number of alt corps.
For example "No Problem" corp was created to declare war on Freelancing corp. They soon after abandoned their corp to avoid that war. Corp still exists, takin up office space and system memory.
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Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.02.29 02:53:00 -
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The reason this was set up was so that five-hundred two-man corps can't be set up. If you're going to be like that you may as well freelance. Meanwhile, there are dozens of existing corporations that can't find new members because all of them have set up their own.
Besides, if you can't afford 1.5 million ISK (admittedly a bit costly) then you most likely can't afford all the benefits that come with being in a corp, such as renting offices, using labs, etc. Those costs add up mighty fast.
My corp is solid, but it has only five active members. I've spent a lot of time on the Recruitment channel, but most of the people in that room are recruiting, not looking for a corp. And I've noticed that a LOT of them are small, two-man corps that have no practical use for existing. Corporations are set up for multiple people, to improve organization and maintain a large network of allies. If you and your roommate are the only two in it, then what's the point? Not to mention, all of these extra corps just mean more stress on the CCP servers, which none of us want.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.02.29 04:50:00 -
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1.5 mill isn't too much, I think this is mainly a move so that people new to space just don't go out and create a corp.
A cruiser pilot can make 1.5 mill in a few hours. I would have to concur that this is a good move. A person should try out existing corps before they go out and create a new corp anyways. Get a feel for what goes on in a corp and what people are looking for in a corp.
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.03.02 23:11:00 -
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It aint about the isk.
Never was.
(Please remember this isnt the general forum....!!!)
I meant the prevalenet polititics in the Market place that strangles the trade and the new tech !!!
You fail to see my point when you mention isk and other RL issues.
Think about this forums aims ..... then reply .
Thanks .
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |
Hafthor
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Posted - 2004.03.03 02:43:00 -
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Once again, the price is going up so that people can't run around constantly creating new corps without any care for the effect on other corps that are trying to be upstanding and build a reputation around the name. Check the track record of Nym Qyamara for an example, she has founded over 5 corporations... all are now abandoned. Very likely to have one or more war each which will now never be resolved unless the others surrender to an extinct corp.
Miss Witch: 0.0 is 0.0 because there is no law enforcement. NO LAW ENFORCEMENT (just making sure you get it). This means CONCORD does not have any force in the area. 0.0 is the home of large pirate organisations, they sometimes gang together. Take a hint, don't go there unless you have a large group with you. erm.. why am I trying to argue this point? Can I have your stuff?
OFFT: Isk and other RL stuff?
May I suggest dropping the caps in your name?
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:34:00 -
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OFFT nods to Hafthor in a way to acknowledge a man with a sense of humour.
But stands by name. 
True Eve name and Caldari too.
"And remember Dont Mention The Isk".
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |
Chadillac
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Posted - 2004.03.05 00:09:00 -
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