P.S. constructive criticism is required

A high-sec baby carrier that can assign fighters to mission runners? The number of alt accounts it would create would make CCP dance for joy (and drive plex prices up.)

+2 warp strength due to twin warp engine

Built in stabs on a combat capable ship = massive fail

You know, the idea is sound.. his implementation of it would be bad.

Something that can use up to 5 fighters, has the ehp of a decently tanked BS, can't jump and can use gates would actually be quite cool.

Not sure how I'd balance it though, problem being that isk does not balance ships really because you'll get alliances that just roll with 'lets take 500 of them'.

It'd be a nice hop on the long train to getting a carrier at any rate.

I don't know.... sounds cool, just not sure it'd work in EVE.

good luck with that.

Built in stabs on a combat capable ship = massive fail

Built in stabs on a combat capable ship = massive fail

I'd love a logistics battleship.

As to the ship and its capabilities and restrictions, I think it should be similar to regular capitals regarding a restriction from entering highsec. The idea of an orca sized carrier with 5 fighters doesn't sit well for me in a hisec missioning context, because of the assigned fighters helping people pwn missions. Similarly, the metagame will see these ships proliferate and station humping mongoloids would camp Amarr EFA undock in a dramiel or Cynabal with 20 alts in escort carriers 30 AU away with 100 fighters assigned to them, and this would become riitard. No, no, no.

Another possibility of avoiding nasty ganking scenarios would be:

Concord assumes damage done by the fighters to be done by the Escort Carrier. So, if expensive enough, (assuming pricing in the area of an Orca) there would have to be pretty expensive stuff shipped out to be worth using it that way.

Leaves the possibility of using them in missions. Not a good idea either. To make fighters only assignable in .4 and down seems the best solution to that, honestly.

A high-sec baby carrier that can assign fighters to mission runners? The number of alt accounts it would create would make CCP dance for joy (and drive plex prices up.)

One word:

NO !!!

I.

CCP need to take a look at the massive gap between subcapital ships and capitals.

What gap? Top of the line subcaps (Blackops, Marauders) are actually more expensive than a carrier and if you can fly either you're less than a month away from flying a carrier/dread respectively.

A) Talking about hull size performance, role, and capabilities not price.

B) Not so much, I can fly a black ops now I'm several months from caps.

That must be flying that black ops at an awfully inadequate skill level. The only black ops that would somewhat excuse not having Drone Interfacing 5 is the Widow, save that skill a black op pilot should only have Advanced Spaceship Command 5 to train (two to three weeks) then a few more days days for Capital Ships 3, the carrier skills and some level of capital mods. if you are months away there is something pretty wrong.

Give them a ship hanger that can carry up to 4 fitted frigs, or two fitted cruisers.

Make em really expensive so they dont blot out the sun.

The ship concept in history was to create something that was not as good as the real thing, but could sort of do it for a cheap price tag and in quick fashion. Usually old warship or transport ship hulls.

Therefore it should be
1. Racial specific
2. Not as good as a carrier by any strech.
3. Better than a BS, because BS were susceptible to them in conflict.
4. Cheap price tag, say about 30% more than a tier 3 BS?

Forget the orca... use the freighters as mentioned earlier in the post.

They have the hitpoints he recommends, strip the cargo bay for drone bay, and add visible openings to the models on their cargo bays to identify as fighter bays. If all five fighters are fit, then only about 150-250m3 should remain for other drones.

Like the flavor of limited fitting, but go 4/4/4 +2 appropriate for race(can be split). Prevents overtaking BS, and ensures role fitting.

Add maintenance bay, fuel bay for triage, and small corp bay.

Role Bonus: Able to launch five fighters or ten drones. (allows limited offensive role). Capital remote repair and local repair systems are PG/CPU reduced to fit two appropriate for race, can fit triage (if triage is active can run two capital remote/ local repair mods stable [run the role bonus numbers to apply to cap usage of mods only during triage] otherwise Cap use of capital mod with cap of BS).

Racial Battleship skill: Same as racial carrier bonuses

Scan res of ship equivalent of racial carrier.

Targeting range equivalent of racial battleship.

HP about 2x BS.

Capacitor equivalent of battleship (forces triage to utilize capital remote repair role).

Maybe this: Cannot be rigged due to extensive modification of hull

-DT

I agree. 1 fighter per skill level and some kind of fleet roll that does not involve remote repairing. I was thinking that maybe it can fit 7 or 8 small turrets/launchers and get a bonus to tracking/optimal (similar to the guys flak suggestion above me). Would be good against small ships but not battlecruisers and battleships. Also its bonuses would revolve around projected ECCM, remote sensor boosters, remote sensor dampening, etc. Also possibly 5 drones in addition to 5 fighters also it should have a hell of a tank. It should be T2, size/mass of the Orca but heavily modified hull, uses jumpgates, not cynos and more expensive than a marauder or faction battleship. Really skill intensive, give something real for 100m sp guys to train for.

On a side note, make it something a dreadnought can easily track and hit, at the same time improving the dreadnought's roll.

Again, EVE players have been asking for the "Escort Carriers" for years and it is probably something CCP wants to look into. Probably the most desired next ship after the "T3 frigates".

Hear is my try at the Caldari one-



Karura

Hi-4 (3missile)
Mid-5
Low-3
Rig-3/400 (large)

CPU-825
POW-7,750
Capacitor-18,500/recharge 15570s

Drone bandwidth-250
Drone bay-55,000 m3

Shield-57,500/recharge12500s
Armour- 9,500
Structure- 5,000

Targeting range- 88k
Scan Resolution-185 mm
Gravimetric Sensor Strength-64 points
Signature Radius- 745m

Corp hanger-5,000 m3
Maintenance bay-550,000 m3

Max Velocity- 75 m/sec
Inertia Modifier- 0.075
Mass-390,000,000 kg
Capacity 725 m3
Warp speed- 3 au



Roll bonuses

75% reduction in duration and liquid ozone consumption for cynosural field generation
50% increase to shield booster repairer amount and capacitor use
200% bonus to Fighter control range
Can deploy 5 additional drones


Escort bonuses

5% bonus to all Shield resistances per level
10% bonus to fighter and drone tracking, optimal range and max velocity per level

In my opinion the "escort carriers" are the regular carriers in current EVE. The "true carriers" are the super-moms in the current EVE.

That out of the way I'm not against the idea of some kind of "escort carrier" altho - in my oopinion the easiest part would be removal of jump drive from a carrier and just castrating it somewhat. Like, for example, orca against roqual. So these "escort carriers" would be sort of the same as Orcas are to Roquals.

What gap? Top of the line subcaps (Blackops, Marauders) are actually more expensive than a carrier and if you can fly either you're less than a month away from flying a carrier/dread respectively.

So no useful bonus, pitiful DPS, just good at being a brick. Those would only be used in station games, like we need more of those.

LOLwut? Nubian, please, you have no idea.

I have, currently, 79M SP's in subcaps, including BLOPs 5, 2 races BS5, 3 races cruiser 5, 13M missile SP's, large hybrid and projectiles 5, jump cal 4 and ofc the requisite nav skills to get into a black ops.

I've just started training capitals (saw no point in building a 1B asset which would be stranded or die lurking wormholes) and one and a half months in, I will still not undock my Niddy for love nor money because I'm so horribly crap with it its embarassing.

Fighter 5 is another month off, minnie carrier 5 a month after that. So I don't know what crack pipe you are smoking, but its probably one which makes you think that undocking with level 2 skills across the board in a carrier is a Good Thing TM.