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Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 112	Posted - 2012.01.27 17:37:00 - [61] - Quote Nerf-by-players is a lovely concept actually. Question though now is - what next? (Not from the CCP we'll see that in a while, but from players themselves)
Mr Morita Gunpoint Diplomacy 2	Posted - 2012.01.27 17:41:00 - [62] - Quote tl;dr: butthurt.
Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 364	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:43:00 - [63] - Quote every time you think that people will try to be less bitter about a video game, but every time that dont fly
Endeavour Starfleet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 619	Posted - 2012.01.27 20:20:00 - [64] - Quote Darius III wrote: Endevor Starfleet wrote: Just a heads up. It is Endevor not Endevor. a former incursion leader let himself get played by nullsec overlords. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Not only are you wrong, you incorrect also. The Amazing Ammzi came to US, not the other way around, and virtually no one who helped lives in nullsec. KEEP POSTING! Go on. Keep pretending that.
Endeavour Starfleet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 619	Posted - 2012.01.27 20:23:00 - [65] - Quote Ammzi wrote: Roxwar wrote: So you spend a year building up trust and respect from thousands of players, players who turn to you for advice ect, then when YOU get bored of incursions, you ruin it for the thousands who's respect you gained over the previous 12months just because YOU'd had enough? I haven't betrayed them, at all times I worked for the incursion community. Giving them a voice on the forums and a skirt to pull at CCP. I still do incursions, as a matter of fact I FC'ed a vanguard fleet today from BTL. I never worked "12 months" to get up in the chains and betray anyone, that was not the goal and will never be (betrayal that is). At the end of the day if WE made CCP realize how important incursions are both as a feature for itself and how it is affecting people in EVE regardless of system sec status then we've all accomplished something great. Learning the ropes so you can start mass interdiction fleets = Betrayal Learning the ropes so you can support and encourage fake logi fleets to deprive BTL of funds = Betrayal
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 27	Posted - 2012.01.27 20:32:00 - [66] - Quote Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Ammzi wrote: Roxwar wrote: So you spend a year building up trust and respect from thousands of players, players who turn to you for advice ect, then when YOU get bored of incursions, you ruin it for the thousands who's respect you gained over the previous 12months just because YOU'd had enough? I haven't betrayed them, at all times I worked for the incursion community. Giving them a voice on the forums and a skirt to pull at CCP. I still do incursions, as a matter of fact I FC'ed a vanguard fleet today from BTL. I never worked "12 months" to get up in the chains and betray anyone, that was not the goal and will never be (betrayal that is). At the end of the day if WE made CCP realize how important incursions are both as a feature for itself and how it is affecting people in EVE regardless of system sec status then we've all accomplished something great. Learning the ropes so you can start mass interdiction fleets = Betrayal Learning the ropes so you can support and encourage fake logi fleets to deprive BTL of funds = Betrayal What exactly has he betrayed?? If he hadnt done it someone else would have done, and probably in a much more damaging manner. People still form and run incursion fleets the same as they always have except now CCP is taking a look at rebalancing incursions so they meet what they were origionally planned to be. If anything I'd say hes doing incursion runners a favour by bringing issues that are well known to CCPs attention in a brutally effective manner, the side effect of forcing the rank and file to take a good hard look at who they trust to 'lead' them is just icing on the cake. Also since you bring up a year of building trust and respect what exactly have you ever done for the eve community Endeavour? As far as I can tell the only thing youve ever contributed to anything is tinfoil theories and hot air.
Serge SC The Singing FC 16	Posted - 2012.01.27 20:48:00 - [67] - Quote I had a very clever contribution to make to this thread, but then I logged in and forgot about it...I'll just say hello then o/ If I remember it, then I'll edit the post...
Paranon Independant Explorations 0	Posted - 2012.01.27 21:08:00 - [68] - Quote Great work mate. Had me confused for a while! I kinda thought people would see this thread and figure it out. Ah well. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=335320#post335320 Whats next? Bring down Faction Warfare? Break up the null sec alliances? Gimme a shout if you need a hand with anything. Para xxx
Poloturion Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 7	Posted - 2012.01.27 21:53:00 - [69] - Quote Endeavuor Starfleet wrote: Darius III wrote: Endevor Starfleet wrote: Just a heads up. It is Endevor not Endevor. a former incursion leader let himself get played by nullsec overlords. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Not only are you wrong, you incorrect also. The Amazing Ammzi came to US, not the other way around, and virtually no one who helped lives in nullsec. KEEP POSTING! Go on. Keep pretending that. Are you still mad Endevor?
Endeavour Starfleet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 619	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:26:00 - [70] - Quote Serge SC wrote: I had a very clever contribution to make to this thread, but then I logged in and forgot about it...I'll just say hello then o/ If I remember it, then I'll edit the post... I had a very clever response to this. Then I took an arrow in the knee...
Jubis Moonjuice For Experimental Purposes Only Domination.. 1	Posted - 2012.01.28 05:43:00 - [71] - Quote Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Ammzi wrote: Roxwar wrote: So you spend a year building up trust and respect from thousands of players, players who turn to you for advice ect, then when YOU get bored of incursions, you ruin it for the thousands who's respect you gained over the previous 12months just because YOU'd had enough? I haven't betrayed them, at all times I worked for the incursion community. Giving them a voice on the forums and a skirt to pull at CCP. I still do incursions, as a matter of fact I FC'ed a vanguard fleet today from BTL. I never worked "12 months" to get up in the chains and betray anyone, that was not the goal and will never be (betrayal that is). At the end of the day if WE made CCP realize how important incursions are both as a feature for itself and how it is affecting people in EVE regardless of system sec status then we've all accomplished something great. Learning the ropes so you can start mass interdiction fleets = Betrayal Learning the ropes so you can support and encourage fake logi fleets to deprive BTL of funds = Betrayal It seems evident that Roxwar is most likely a Vanguard ** and any future changes possibly including nerfing Vanguards will affect his income. It's also apparent he hasn't read the CSM minutes or the original post by Ammzi thoroughly enough, hence the random assumptions made in his post. Endeavour, I see that you're in BTL now but for how long I do not know. It is definitely clear that you have not been there long enough to realise that Ammzi was one of the FOUNDERS / LEADERS of BTL, not someone who "learned the ropes" . He made the damn ropes, get it right. People really need to construct their arguments more effectively. Don't post random ** without reading the OP's post whilst not in a fit of rage/under the influence of drugs and alcohol, and if there are references made to other relevant materials (in this case, the recently published CSM notes) then please make the effort to read those too, to better familiarize yourself with the content being discussed. TL;DR 90% of this thread is useless insignificant flame and really bad modifications of "I am spartacus".
Jubis Moonjuice For Experimental Purposes Only Domination.. 1	Posted - 2012.01.28 05:49:00 - [72] - Quote Also, +1 Ammzi. I don't agree with everything you did and I had my suspicions but the goals were certainly worth the efforts. I happen to be one of that small minority of pilots that can actually find something else to do (no wai!) when an incursion is too far away or there are none to farm. I used to farm vanguards too but got somewhat bored of them. I moved on to AS/HQ fleets and as a former FC agree with most of the content in the CSM notes regarding increasing the reward for those sites, especially when taking into account the effort to construct and maintain such a fleet for several hours.
Roosterton Shattered Star Exiles SpaceMonkey's Alliance 297	Posted - 2012.01.28 06:57:00 - [73] - Quote This is truly EVE at its finest. You saw an imbalance in the game. Rather than whining to father CCP about it, you made unofficial deals with those who had similar objectives to you and sought to fix the imbalance yourself. You committed acts of what people consider betrayal, treachery, "griefing," and whatever was deemed necessary, even against your friends, because you believed that it was for the good of the game, and now you've started a movement which may forever change the mechanic. Everyone who's crying and whining at him now; face it, you've been outplayed. If you want to change things back to how they were, you always have the opportunity to fight back. For me, this is the line which really separates the "carebears" from the non-carebears in EVE; if you're willing to fight for what you have, or for what you believe in, you "get" eve. If you don't, and instead whine on the forums - like many of you - you're doinitwrong. Be ashamed, carebears. Regardless of your opinions and motives, Ammzi, my hat goes off to you for accomplishing this.
Blade M Howser Net 10. LLC 0	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:05:00 - [74] - Quote seperating you from your alt is impossible because 1 without the other this would have never happened. wgy didnt you say i got GREEDY SAW A OPPORTUNITY im sure both your toons benefited the same because in the end it was still the same person using the key board. i think you and your alt should be banned from incursions !! IDIOT
Ammzi Commanding Wall Wall of Shadow 783	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:09:00 - [75] - Quote Blade M Howser wrote: seperating you from your alt is impossible because 1 without the other this would have never happened. wgy didnt you say i got GREEDY SAW A OPPORTUNITY im sure both your toons benefited the same because in the end it was still the same person using the key board. i think you and your alt should be banned from incursions !! IDIOT I didn't earn isk on this. quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
Rhapsodae New Eden Relief Fund 3	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:11:00 - [76] - Quote Jubis Moonjuice wrote: +1 Ammzi. I don't agree with everything you did ..... It did made me see things into perspective, knowing that the running can be good but can be done for in a blink of an eye. Ammzi rumbled the incursion-runners world and made it so that alot of my friends ended up doing something else or even quitting eve w some of their accounts. Me personally had to pay for my accounts rather than plexing, which is but a first world problem. You did get a discussion started, but I am not sure if you reached CCP more than that you did harm to your fellow pilots and their views of eve and incursions. o/
Heo Hyungie Chimaerazz 3	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:18:00 - [77] - Quote I didn't earn any iskies from this ..i didn't earn anything from this ..honest ! I'm pure n innocent ! I didn't do anything ! I'm nub nub /cry. i didn't sell ships too ! I'm the most honest guy >.< /grins
Ireland VonVicious Gurista Saints Assassin Confederacy 18	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:19:00 - [78] - Quote This is a bunch of over blown garbage. So incursions were down for a weekend. Oh no, it's the end of all things fun. This just goes to show that even with a ton of people working together to do something grand it's little more then a blip on the radar of eve. A bunch of pilots cried at once as often happens and has happend on much larger scales. Yay? If you had shut down high sec incursions for a month it would be something. A weekend = so what. On the up side it's still funny
Zack Evans GriffinWaffe 7	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:19:00 - [79] - Quote Just for the record, I'm the real Krissada.
Blade M Howser Net 10. LLC 0	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:32:00 - [80] - Quote Ammzi wrote: Blade M Howser wrote: seperating you from your alt is impossible because 1 without the other this would have never happened. wgy didnt you say i got GREEDY SAW A OPPORTUNITY im sure both your toons benefited the same because in the end it was still the same person using the key board. i think you and your alt should be banned from incursions !! IDIOT I didn't earn isk on this. you might not have made isk but your alt that you were in control of did if not then there would not be an investigation of the ship replacement fund ....will your alt be paying every one that lost millions because of your actions
Ammzi Commanding Wall Wall of Shadow 784	Posted - 2012.01.28 18:41:00 - [81] - Quote Blade M Howser wrote: Ammzi wrote: Blade M Howser wrote: seperating you from your alt is impossible because 1 without the other this would have never happened. wgy didnt you say i got GREEDY SAW A OPPORTUNITY im sure both your toons benefited the same because in the end it was still the same person using the key board. i think you and your alt should be banned from incursions !! IDIOT I didn't earn isk on this. you might not have made isk but your alt that you were in control of did if not then there would not be an investigation of the ship replacement fund ....will your alt be paying every one that lost millions because of your actions No one got paid from the ship reimbursement fund due to my actions. My alt did not earn isk either. quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
Tash'k Omar Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates. 6	Posted - 2012.01.28 21:28:00 - [82] - Quote EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote: I am Endeavor Starfleet. OH ****!! /wrists Lawl. Considering how upset he gets when you misspell his name I think he would spell it correctly here!
Xiozor League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda 12	Posted - 2012.01.28 22:03:00 - [83] - Quote I flew with Ammzi from right back in the first days of Incursions but quit when stuff got stale and beardrama began to overflow, seemed to be one of the only guys without his head up his ass. +1 to this thread.
Blade M Howser Net 10. LLC 0	Posted - 2012.01.28 22:27:00 - [84] - Quote ok you have cleared up the fact you or your alt in no way made any isk from the ship replacement program so exactly what is that program intended for if no one get reimbursed isk they lost wile running with btl fleets and lose a ship? my assumption is that btl is scamming ppl and i know alot of ppl who no longer joins BTL PUBLIC channel or fly in their fleets because of this incident . my guess more ppl will follow and btl will end soon. you do realize your name will be part of eve history from know on..Gÿ¦
Ammzi Commanding Wall Wall of Shadow 784	Posted - 2012.01.28 22:47:00 - [85] - Quote BTL Pub reimburses logistic losses in assault, headquarter and mom fleets. Initially the reimbursement was only for logistic losses in mom fleets since the vast majority of the ISK comes from the mom loot that is auctioned off. The losses you speak of are mostly DPS and those few logis are unfortunately not covered because it wasn't a BTL fleet. It would be the similar as saying Rooks and Kings should reimburse my logi, because I lost it in a Pandemic Legion fleet. Just an example. quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
Besbin Balderfrey Enterprises 6	Posted - 2012.01.28 23:05:00 - [86] - Quote I support this product and/or service. +1s for the Ammz Meister :-)
Killa Von Murderer University of Caille Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2012.01.28 23:17:00 - [87] - Quote I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble.
Blade M Howser Net 10. LLC 0	Posted - 2012.01.28 23:46:00 - [88] - Quote Killa Von Murderer wrote: I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble. yes he messed a good thing up and trying to play it like he did ccp a big service . every thing he did was for his own amusment making himself look like a saint. now that the sh*t hit the fan he can not accept any responsibility for his actions and his alts actions even though there was only 1 person setting behind the key board . 1 he should be permanetly banned from all incursions 2. any one wronged by his dirty dealings should suicide gank him daily 3. any one not wronged by him should should gank him daily 4.he should stop making excuses. ..aka - the bill clinton defence...i did not have sexual relations whith monica...lmao
VIncent Vance Orison of Sonmi451 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 00:42:00 - [89] - Quote Blade M Howser wrote: Killa Von Murderer wrote: I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble. yes he messed a good thing up and trying to play it like he did ccp a big service . every thing he did was for his own amusment making himself look like a saint. now that the sh*t hit the fan he can not accept any responsibility for his actions and his alts actions even though there was only 1 person setting behind the key board . 1 he should be permanetly banned from all incursions 2. any one wronged by his dirty dealings should suicide gank him daily 3. any one not wronged by him should should gank him daily 4.he should stop making excuses. ..aka - the bill clinton defence...i did not have sexual relations whith monica...lmao oh FFS, don't you have something better to do than spew your bile all over the keyboard???
Quite the Contrary Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 00:43:00 - [90] - Quote Blade M Howser wrote: Killa Von Murderer wrote: I actually liked you a lot better when you weren't pretending to be noble. yes he messed a good thing up and trying to play it like he did ccp a big service . every thing he did was for his own amusment making himself look like a saint. now that the sh*t hit the fan he can not accept any responsibility for his actions and his alts actions even though there was only 1 person setting behind the key board . 1 he should be permanetly banned from all incursions 2. any one wronged by his dirty dealings should suicide gank him daily 3. any one not wronged by him should should gank him daily 4.he should stop making excuses. ..aka - the bill clinton defence...i did not have sexual relations whith monica...lmao The butt-hurt is strong with this one! As far as I can tell he's accepted responsibility for his actions completely.

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