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William208	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:20:00 - [1] So recently my self and a few others got word that Intrepid crossing made some of the finest cookies in all of eve. Being that we are huge fans of cookies we felt this was a story that was crying out to be investigated and decided that a roadtrip to IC space was in order so that we could sample these fine delights for ourslves. Our gang of noble ladies and gentlemen consisited of speed ships etc (to reach the cookies before they went cold) and we came in peace however it seems that intrepid crossing dont like to share there cookies with outsiders and instead wanted to be greedy and keep them for themselves and to show how much they tresure there cookies and there secret recipe decided to lay out the welcome wagon for us by droping there entire cap fleet plus support on what was only around 10 of us in interceptors etc, in what seemed to be a huge slice of overkill. Now i may be mistaken here but intrepid just what are you playing at? Are your cookies really that good that they must be protected at all costs? is the lack of action in your neck of the woods so bad that everyman and his dog within your alliance is willing to come out to play for such a small gang? or have i got things so terribly wrong? and infact you are just a good bunch of friendly people that is willing to lay out the entire fleet and red carpet to welcome anyone that has taken the time to sample your delights no matter how small in size they may be?
Nhoj Sllew Amarr Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:25:00 - [2] they'll drop cap ships on less... its pretty much their only trick -- Peanut Swsh > is peoke really a small african child with an extremely poor grasp on the english language? IE-EX 0.0 We hate you too.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:40:00 - [3] "they'll drop cap ships on less... its pretty much their only trick" We defend our space vigorously, if you don't like it, don't come. With as many large size enemies as we have essentially in our back yard if we aren't ready to hit any invaders with full force we run the risk of ending up like some of the other recent drone region entities. We aren't anyone's personal playground so don't expect too much of a "playful" response from us. And don't worry Nhoj, we have a few more tricks. There is just no reason to show your hand before its time. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Tassi The Cruciform The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Farham "they'll drop cap ships on less... its pretty much their only trick" We defend our space vigorously, if you don't like it, don't come. With as many large size enemies as we have essentially in our back yard if we aren't ready to hit any invaders with full force we run the risk of ending up like some of the other recent drone region entities. We aren't anyone's personal playground so don't expect too much of a "playful" response from us. And don't worry Nhoj, we have a few more tricks. There is just no reason to show your hand before its time. To drop carriers on every roaming gang is the worst thing you can do, strategically. But well ... not everyone is born with a brain bigger than a peanut. The Cruciform recruitment
Glitch 10240 Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:52:00 - [5] Edited by: Glitch 10240 on 30/10/2007 16:53:02 Originally by: Tassi Originally by: Farham "they'll drop cap ships on less... its pretty much their only trick" We defend our space vigorously, if you don't like it, don't come. With as many large size enemies as we have essentially in our back yard if we aren't ready to hit any invaders with full force we run the risk of ending up like some of the other recent drone region entities. We aren't anyone's personal playground so don't expect too much of a "playful" response from us. And don't worry Nhoj, we have a few more tricks. There is just no reason to show your hand before its time. To drop carriers on every roaming gang is the worst thing you can do, strategically. But well ... not everyone is born with a brain bigger than a peanut. Why did you have to bring me into this Tassi! [Edit] 5th in an IC thread....woot lol -------------------------------- *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Gallente Citizen5242424	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:56:00 - [6] Edited by: Gallente Citizen5242424 on 30/10/2007 16:56:56
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Farham on 30/10/2007 17:03:31 "To drop carriers on every roaming gang is the worst thing you can do, strategically. But well ... not everyone is born with a brain bigger than a peanut." If you use them in a fashion that supports your non-caps and keep them in areas that are not accessible by enemy caps it is more than a reasonable method of ensuring you are prepared for when that roaming gang turns into 60. Live in our space, our shoes and then you can chime in on our choice of tactics. Rapiers and Huggins are some of our favorite defense ships (since everyone and their mother seems to have the need for nano crap) so before you go getting your panties in a wad about our seeming excessive use of force know we also understand the dangers of cap ship defense. Plus, we will probably just switch to Dreds for a change of pace ;) Most of our carrier pilots fly dreds so 25 Dreds meeting a nano gang should be worth the price of admission...even if we don't actually hit anything with them. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Amuko Amarr Happy Little Roid Huggers	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:00:00 - [8] The whole lol-cookies thing on the internet is old and fails, please stop it. On topic: I know a few reasons to ''blob'' you like they did; Nano gangs can be a pain in the ass, so they dropped caps on you and scared you off, seems like they accomplished their mission. And please, like you wouldn't have ganked a single target on a gate with your ten guys, doubt you'd have been all ''Oh it's only one of them, let him be''. So even though it might not have been needed, it was infact the best thing to do to get rid of you. Also, when you start asking for x's in alliance chat, it's a bit stupid to say, ''no sorry guys, we've already got [x amount of] people, so if we let you join there won't be a challenge''. If you do that, people will soon just ignore the calls for help in alliance chat. And yes, people like it when they can get in a fast pew pew close to home.
Tassi The Cruciform The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Farham "To drop carriers on every roaming gang is the worst thing you can do, strategically. But well ... not everyone is born with a brain bigger than a peanut." If you use them in a fashion that supports your non-caps and keep them in areas that are not accessible by enemy caps it is more than a reasonable method of ensuring you are prepared for when that roaming gang turns into 60. Live in our space, our shoes and then you can chime in on our choice of tactics. Rapiers and Huggins are some of our favorite defense ships (since everyone and their mother seems to have the need for nano crap) so before you go getting your panties in a wad about our seeming excessive use of force know we also understand the dangers of cap ship defense. I have seen how you use your cap ships and its a joke. The Cruciform recruitment
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:05:00 - [10] "I have seen how you use your cap ships and its a joke." We appreciate your opinion. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:06:00 - [11] Glad you shared this with CAOD...at least we know where to go to kill caps...so it wasnt a complete waste of time...
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:07:00 - [12] tbh wasnt there but heard it was fun around there and looksl ike they dooing a nice job with the caps sofar and indeed every roaming gang is nano**** these days . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
Maar T'Kmel Minmatar United Federation of Planets FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:10:00 - [13] At the very least it's good practice for cap pilots. New carrier pilots need experience, even if it's against a tiny hostile fleet. Practice sending fighters out, repping friends, etc etc. Yeah you can do this outside your station in a practice fight, but nothing like shooting reds/neutrals with your blood pumping to get the experience needed.
William208 Amarr Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:22:00 - [14] Originally by: Farham "they'll drop cap ships on less... its pretty much their only trick" We defend our space vigorously, if you don't like it, don't come. With as many large size enemies as we have essentially in our back yard if we aren't ready to hit any invaders with full force we run the risk of ending up like some of the other recent drone region entities. We aren't anyone's personal playground so don't expect too much of a "playful" response from us. And don't worry Nhoj, we have a few more tricks. There is just no reason to show your hand before its time. Could this "trick" involve a certain, large, golden, shiny ship, built/purchased from the profits of your cookie factory? Quote: The whole lol-cookies thing on the internet is old and fails, please stop it. Damm, i mentioned cookies again Quote: I have seen how you use your cap ships and its a joke. Indeed it is, like an episode of Benny Hill
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:23:00 - [15] wtf is wrong with OP. Going roaming in a hostile system and having them drop caps on a gate is like hitting the jackpot.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:23:00 - [16] Actually, now that I look at the OP's signature I can see hes from Species. I assume you were the small group of Smash/RK that came in late last night. The reason you got that response was two fold. 1. We were just finishing up a carrier/empire trip with 18 carriers in the group. We got back to our home system and a 10 man Pure nano gang was engaging one of ours in a belt. We chased them off directly from our jump bridge with a simple warp in and not 2 minutes later you were spotted with a "smash in ISO" in our intel channel. 2. The day before nearly 90 RK/Smash, Atlas and Chaos Incarnate showed up to our 30 and as I said earlier, where we live you have to assume where there are 10 there are 50+ more behind. So many of our guys just stayed in their carriers while a few others went and got anti-nano ships just in case. We do understand the dangers associated with using caps but we also understand the danger of losing our space. It happened once, we will tooth and nail down to the last ship, isk and man before it happens again. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
William208 Amarr Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Farham Actually, now that I look at the OP's signature I can see hes from Species. I assume you were the small group of Smash/RK that came in late last night. The reason you got that response was two fold. 1. We were just finishing up a carrier/empire trip with 18 carriers in the group. We got back to our home system and a 10 man Pure nano gang was engaging one of ours in a belt. We chased them off directly from our jump bridge with a simple warp in and not 2 minutes later you were spotted with a "smash in ISO" in our intel channel. 2. The day before nearly 90 RK/Smash, Atlas and Chaos Incarnate showed up to our 30 and as I said earlier, where we live you have to assume where there are 10 there are 50+ more behind. So many of our guys just stayed in their carriers while a few others went and got anti-nano ships just in case. We do understand the dangers associated with using caps but we also understand the danger of losing our space. It happened once, we will tooth and nail down to the last ship, isk and man before it happens again. Yes i was one of them that came up, now dont get me wrong, you say you will defend your space and credit to you, so far you have, hell its good to see people that bring a fight and dont just give in, just seemed a bit much IMO but you say you have your reasons, so fair do to you. Quote: wtf is wrong with OP. Going roaming in a hostile system and having them drop caps on a gate is like hitting the jackpot. Go easy on me, im fragile nothing was wrong with this, in fact it was some of the most fun i have had in a while
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:00:00 - [18] "just seemed a bit much IMO but you say you have your reasons, so fair do to you." It came up in team speak once we trapped you in 4-Q that we were overdressed for the occasion. We waited the 10 or so minutes to see if you were just the first wave and our big ships returned home leaving our small ships to wait you out. Bad timing in this case for you all. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:11:00 - [19] This is funny cause everyone knows you guys field at least 2 caps when there is a small gang coming into your home system and when more comes they all dock up. Why do you guys keep using carriers to rat with in belt( thats why battleships are for)
Maar T'Kmel Minmatar United Federation of Planets FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Bashiri Why do you guys keep using carriers to rat with in belt( thats why battleships are for) Fighters use no ammo and they can wipe a nice BS spawn in 45 seconds.
Nizar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:26:00 - [21] this thread just fails -------------- Nizar -------------- BARON VON NEINLEDERHOSEN
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:30:00 - [22] Edited by: Farham on 30/10/2007 18:30:49 "Why do you guys keep using carriers to rat with in belt( thats why battleships are for)" If someone wants to spend 750 million isk on a carrier and rat in it...why do I care? If it makes him or her happy, knock yourself out. Every cap pilot in our alliance understands that caps are ships that are meant to be used and lost. They are after all just internet spaceships..pew pew. "and when more comes they all dock up." When its 90ish vs 30ish, we generally opt for prudent...we man the POS guns. I do find the numbers talk from a member of a larger alliance (Smash) that in most cases travels with another larger alliance (Roadkill) and lately brings two other alliances (Atlas and Chaos Incarnate) along for "the gangbang" a bit silly. We do not claim to be the best PVPers nor the best home defenders. We have had alliances like TRI or groups like Outbreak come into our space and show us how high the bar is and how far we still have to grow to reach it. We strive to learn from each of those premier experiences and understand that sometimes it takes a good ass kicking to get you moving in the right direction. With that, our comments on the matter are finished. You all have a great day now. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Kkhaarn Black Serpent Technologies Division of Eden	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:53:00 - [23] Personally i think it's commendable that they have so many pilots willing to answer the call every time there is an enemy gang spotted. I have seen alliances that ignore cries for help when one of their own is attacked in a home system because the majority of their members couldn't be bothered stopping whatever they are doing at that particular moment. It IS dangerous to use a predictable tactic like bringing a large cap fleet every time but imo the IRC guy explained it pretty well. Nice to see a thread where enemies show a healthy respect for one another.
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:57:00 - [24] Very ironic since I've seen Smashkill drop blobs that far outnumbered our little roaming gangs, yet I don't complain about it. Blobbing is a part of eve, deal with it, or don't pvp.
William208 Amarr Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:00:00 - [25] Edited by: William208 on 30/10/2007 19:00:42 Originally by: Nizar this thread just fails Does this mean i have been flamed? my first ever post someone told me to become a true forum warrior i needed to be flamed
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:02:00 - [26] You sound suprised, but sadly most alliances won't hesistate to blob even a single ship these days.
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:07:00 - [27] Originally by: Brunswick2 Very ironic since I've seen Smashkill drop blobs that far outnumbered our little roaming gangs, yet I don't complain about it. Blobbing is a part of eve, deal with it, or don't pvp. You're not saying that Smashkill blob roaming nano-gangs with caps!?!?! OMFG, it can't be true...or they wouldnt run to the forums to complain about others doing it...would they??? Seriously I've never been blobbed by them ever when in a nano-gang...and never with caps...well there was that 1 time, oh ya, and that other time...come to think of it...it happens all the time...hmmmmm....next time we better post about it... ffs
Mr Mirage KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Farham And don't worry Nhoj, we have a few more tricks. There is just no reason to show your hand before its time. that sounds like momship talk
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:39:00 - [29] show info
William208 Amarr Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:52:00 - [30] Originally by: Mr Mirage Originally by: Farham And don't worry Nhoj, we have a few more tricks. There is just no reason to show your hand before its time. that sounds like momship talk Whats a mothership? btw can you guys please spam this post? i wanna reach 100 replys

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