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Zataaki
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:19:00 -
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Laser Raven Theory
Laser Raven Theory suggests that situations exist wherein a laser can be fitted to a Raven for optimal results. Certain conditions apply and all of these must be met for the Laser Raven setup to be pratical.
1) The Raven is being used to destroy drone or Sansha rats, and other rats with high vulnerability to EM and thermal damage. 2) A second ship is used for the looting and salvaging of the wrecks, making tractor beams and salvagers unnecessary on the Raven. 3) The pilot is aware of how to avoid encounters with hostile ships while ratting, by watching the local window at all times, having bookmarks to safespots, and if necessary, staying aligned to a safespot or celestial object while ratting. 4) The pilot never has capacitor issues. 5) The pilot is willing to spend isk on the laser(s), and an ancillary current router rig if applicable 6) The pilot is willing to train energy turret and controlled bursts skills.
The benefits of the laser
High DPS and an ideal damage type for drone & Sansha rats which are weakest to EM and Thermal. A mega pulse laser will do more than half of a siege launcher's worth of DPS with short range crystals, increasing your Raven's DPS by 5-10%.
Nearly perfect variety of optimal ranges from multifrequency to radio. Drone rats engage at a wide variety of ranges and are usually within this spectrum. Ability to switch optimals instantly is extremely useful.
Lasers have excellent tracking and will almost always connect with a battleship rat.
Lasers do not consume ammo, which cuts costs and leaves more cargo space for torpedoes.
The one drawback of the laser
Capacitor usage. Although a laser uses more capacitor than other weapons it is still very insignificant and overestimated. With rapid firing 4, controlled bursts 4, and a best named Mega Pulse Laser, you will consume 2.4 capacitor per second with standard and 4.3 with multifrequency. Compare this to an active single-resist shield hardener which uses 2 capacitor per second, or an invulnerability field which uses 4. One single heavy NOS regenerates 10 capacitor per second or less, depending on quality.
Other high slot options exist, however they all add up to lesser ratting efficiency than lasers and are thus inferior.
2nd Heavy NOS- Unnecessary if the Raven already has no capacitor issues. Drone rats do not repair themselves and NOS has no negative effect on them. This offers more pvp protection than most other high slot options but safe ratting practices make this insignificant.
Cloak- does nothing that warping to safespots, and warping to friendly POSes can't do already. The scan resolution drawback of the cloak results in slower ratting and makes the cloak counterproductive.
Autocannons- Range is too short to be useful and the DPS is small, even with EMP and phased plasma ammo. Medium Artillery- Only two useful ammo types with very similar ranges, very poor DPS. Large Artillery- Poor tracking, poor DPS, two useful ammo types with similar ranges. Blasters- Range is too short to be useful, mediocre DPS, ineffective damage types. Medium Railguns- Poor DPS, ineffective damage types Large Railguns- Poor DPS, ineffective damage types, poor tracking. Smartbombs: Nearly useless for destroying battleship rats.
In conclusion the Laser Raven is a more efficient drone ratting tool than the standard ratting Raven when the conditions are met. It may be superior for other types of rats that are vulnerable to EM and Thermal damage as well, depending on the effect of nos on their repair rate. This remains inconclusive at this time.
Possibilities for other types of rats
Autocannons and artillery for angels - 800mm autocannons with Fusion L have been proven useful for Angel ratting. 1400mm artillery has been proven useful in Angel/Gistii complexes and certain pvp scenarios.
Blasters and railguns for kinetic-weak rats such as Serpentis - untested but likely useful.
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Zataaki
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:19:00 -
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PVP
Due to the NOS nerf, spare high slots can and should be used for other modules. Energy Neutralizers can be extremely useful but more than one is usually unnecessary. A Raven with cruise missiles has enough spare powergrid for one heavy neut and one mega pulse laser, and a Raven with torpedoes has enough spare powergrid for one medium neut and one heavy beam laser. The advantages with the lasers for ratting are similar to the advantages for pvp - tracking, raw damage, instant ammo switching for ideal optimal, no need to carry ammo, and furthermore a laser will connect before the missiles, hitting the target's shields with an ideal damage type, encouraging the Raven pilot to use a missile loadout designed for penetrating armor which should be done anyway as missiles from a Raven are more likely to hit armor than shields.
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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:21:00 -
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tl;dr --
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:23:00 -
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No one is reading this.
fgt.
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Blue Medusa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:24:00 -
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"Laser Ravens, in my CAOD forum?" --- lol signatures |
xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Digicomm No one is reading this.
fgt.
FIX does
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Digicomm No one is reading this.
cockfaggot.
you can thank me later
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:27:00 -
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COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!! |
Bran Stormer
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:27:00 -
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laven
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:33:00 -
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This goes some way to help explain this strange phenomina. However, to those pilots I would probably explain laser geddon.
This does not however explain the laser arazu.
Quote: "... I doubt they would have the skillpoints and cap fleet to take and make soverignty over a large established alliance like BoB."
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Urikko
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Urikko on 02/11/2007 02:03:25 I am so g a y for Zataaki.
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Natas Dog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:05:00 -
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**** yeah, a Laven thread. CAOD being enlightened by the legendary Zataaki itt. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last is usually the one the joke was about. |
Xio2
F4LLEN 4RMY
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:11:00 -
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BANNED -------------- Xio2 |
Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Digicomm No one is reading this.
fgt.
I am
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Urikko
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:22:00 -
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Any advantages to a laser dom Zataaki? Have you EFT'd the possibilities? Enlighten us please.
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CootBoot
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Digicomm No one is reading this.
fgt.
I am
sucks to be you
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Kingdoc
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bran Stormer laven
raver ================================== Wars of aggression are popular nowadays with those nations convinced that only victory and conquest could improve their material well-being. ~Ludwig von Mises |
Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: CootBoot
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Digicomm No one is reading this.
fgt.
I am
sucks to be you
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facialimpediment
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:02:00 -
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AirskulI
Morbid Visions
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kingdoc
Originally by: Bran Stormer laven
raver
Airskull
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frank frank
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:10:00 -
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fit blasters on your vigil
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Misfitsa
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:13:00 -
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the dudes in wolfenstein used to yell about their laven every time you capped one of them fools
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AirskulI
Morbid Visions
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:17:00 -
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OP title sounds like a failed teenage emo band (all male)
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:56:00 -
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laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaven
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Callixtus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 03:57:00 -
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mein laven :'( |
Marko Zhang
Chargin Mah Lazors
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Posted - 2007.11.02 04:00:00 -
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dont laze me, bro!
--- [18:47:59] CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar > be safe.. enjoy killing some D2 |
CaptainGordon
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 04:27:00 -
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Edited by: CaptainGordon on 02/11/2007 04:28:49 A Legathron is still better, just look at them stats
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AirskulI
Morbid Visions
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Posted - 2007.11.02 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Zhang dont laze me, bro!
let me answer his question
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CaptainGordon
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.02 04:30:00 -
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Edited by: CaptainGordon on 02/11/2007 04:30:24
Originally by: CaptainGordon Edited by: CaptainGordon on 02/11/2007 04:28:49 A Legathron is still better, just look at them stats
edit: can a mod fix my image? Its too big, like my epeen.
also quote != edit, ****
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Eldwinn
The Tierijev Compact Division of Eden
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Posted - 2007.11.02 04:52:00 -
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op lacks fitting example
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