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Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 06:42:00 - [1] Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 06:42:32 Its a daily occurrence that someone posts something well thought out and reasoned and instead of disagreeing with them like an adult and debating the issue, they have to be a jerk. They attack other poeple personally, flame, toss accusations and so on. Cant people just bloody growup? No ... dont answer that question, I already know the answer. This place is sewer. Full of people that use internet anonymity to do things that would earn them two knocked out teeth in real life. P.S. If you are going to reply and flame, have some balls and post with your main. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 06:46:00 - [2] Originally by: Schina3 TOO STUPID DID NOT READ Go to the sporting goods store and buy some balls. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 06:50:00 - [3] Originally by: ChimeraRouge die in a fire please, in RL A perfect example. This is a forum about a game. Its a mode of entertainment and because someone posts something you dont like you want them to actually die in real life? You are a living example of the trash of humanity. I suppose you want my wife and 2 children to die in that same fire and wish you could start it as well? Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:36:00 - [4] Originally by: shinsushi Dude, not that I do not agree with you, you are right. I am part of the problem. The thing is, your feeding the trolls, responding to these types of post will just encourage more of them. Until the mod team gets their stuff together, this and all of the forums are going to be bad... It started out with "can I have your stuff" and has progressively gotten worse. Your beef should be with the moderators, not the idiots (of which I am one) No, its not the moderators fault. Its the fault of the people doing it. It is up to YOU whether to flame or act like a reasonable person. Dont try to push the responsibility on others. You are responsible for your actions. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:40:00 - [5] Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 07:41:37 Originally by: Irob Urore So your the sort of person that goes around knocking peoples teeth out in real life, then you wonder why people like being anonymous. Interesting. If someone threatened my family or my children or called my wife a ***** in RL, you better believe they would be counting themselves lucky to be just picking themselves up off the ground with a groggy head. There are truly repulsive things said here. Ive seen people getting called pedophiles, told to commit suicide, told that they should die and a ton of other things that would at least earn them a trip to the dentist office in real life. This is called social boundaries. Your actions have consequences and you better think about them before you do them. But then again properly raised and taught individuals wouldn't do this stuff, not because of the consequences but just because it is wrong. EDIT: I dont wonder why they want to be anonymous. The reason is simple. Cowardice and malice in combination. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Morn Judith Ok. One thing about this game that you'll hear relentlessly is that it is cold, dark, and ruthless. If the game is like this, it's because the players are. If the players are like this, the forums are. So either adapt and deal with it, or give me all you stuff and go join Hello Kitty Online! There is a very CLEAR distinction between pvp and being told to die in real life horribly in a fire. If you cant see that then perhaps you need better parenting or a trip to a psychologist. I would NEVER tell someone to die in a fire in RL even in the game and I am well known for not being a carebear. I shouldnt have to be explaining this line in the sand tyo you, your parents should have already done that job. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:48:00 - [7] Originally by: El'Niaga The problem is that CCP is not willing to police the forums. They created a game that encourages cheating, thieving, lying and other activities without consequence. They clearly have no control in some forums anymore. Most of what is posted in CAOD anymore is nothing more than trolls, flames, insults etc. What they should do is lock down most of the forums. Then have it tied to the game. To post on the forum other than perhaps general discussions should require a role in a corporation. It should also take isk to post. No isk in corp wallet no posting. NPC corps can't post since you don't have access to NPC corp wallet. Again, you cant lay the problem on CCP. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and their own words and not simply shirk it off on moderators not doing their job. If people would act like adults around here, there would be no need for moderators. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:51:00 - [8] Originally by: shinsushi Originally by: Rells Originally by: shinsushi Dude, not that I do not agree with you, you are right. I am part of the problem. The thing is, your feeding the trolls, responding to these types of post will just encourage more of them. Until the mod team gets their stuff together, this and all of the forums are going to be bad... It started out with "can I have your stuff" and has progressively gotten worse. Your beef should be with the moderators, not the idiots (of which I am one) No, its not the moderators fault. Its the fault of the people doing it. It is up to YOU whether to flame or act like a reasonable person. Dont try to push the responsibility on others. You are responsible for your actions. Relying on individuals un-monitored to make the right choices is a weak and naive. I fully admit I am abusive in the forum I post in, I respond in kind to what I get. Self-moderation + anonymity is a recipe for disaster. IF you choose to par-take in such a forum, don't be shocked when someone acts offensively. This basically says that people on the forum, yourself included by your own admission, are refuse and irresponsible individuals that cannot control themselves without the presence of a nanny. Is that what you are? Stop worrying about other people and start with yourself. YOU can stop being abusive on the forum without assistance from a moderator. You CHOOSE not to stop. It isnt the moderator's fault for your choices. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:56:00 - [9] Originally by: shinsushi Dude, your living in a fantasy world. This is how it is, it isn't going to change. Deal with it. I am dealing with it. You came in my thread and posted a reply and I responded to that. People in this day and age are too ready to pass blame on to something else. "Its the guns," says someone watching a shooting incident. "Its the drugs," says someone about urban crime. "Its the schools" says a parent that doesnt want to teach their child. "Its the TV" says another parent with a teenager that cant think for themself. Wrong 4 times in a row. On every account it was the person. A gun doesnt leap up of its own accord and shoot people. Drugs dont force a person to commit armed robery and no one forces the person to do drugs. Its the aprent that doesnt want to take the time off from watching TV to help the kids with the homework and its the parent using TV as a babysitter instead of getting their child into things that will develop their mind. STOP BLAMING OTHERS and look in the bloody mirror. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:58:00 - [10] Originally by: PrettyGirlsMakeGraves The angrier you get the more lols for us and the more we win. Keep on fuming. The fact that you find this humorous, in addition to you posting with an alt shows your lack of courage and lack of ethical code. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!

Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Keldjos Falzir Oh, my dear, sweet Rells. You just don't understand, do you? First of all Im not yours and the only persons in my life entitled to address me that way are my family. Second of all, I understand the situation fully. Its quite simple. A whole generation of morons growing up thinking honor is silly encumberment, ethics are old fashioned, cheating is just another tactic and lieing, stealing and so on are only bad if you get caught. I understand all too well. And yes, if you made your suggestion concerning traffic to my face youw ouwld find yourself on the floor wondering what just happened. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:10:00 - [12] Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 08:14:00 Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 08:11:10 Originally by: Keldjos Falzir Rells, baby, you need to have some agression issues looked at. Or live in a tiny dip**** town. I tell people to play in traffic and hang themselves all the time in real life. It's actually JUST AS FUNNY. Probably more so since you gt to see them sputter in flabbergasted shock. Also, tough guy act? Doesn't work on the internets. You have no idea what I look like, who I might be, and I similarly have no idea what you look like. For all you know, I'm 7'4", 320lbs and have 5% body fat. ...yeah okay, not so much. Your size is irrelevant. You would still be on the floor. The fact that you find that stuff funny shows that you are a sicko that needs to be punched in the teeth. I have never said that to anyone and even the thought of it is repulsive. If I heard my son utter that to anyone he would grounded for a month at least and wish he never had. Morality, Honor and Ethics arent just words in a dictionary. Edit: It makes me wonder what you woudl do if you said that to someone havbing problems and they actually did do it and die. You would probably think that hillarious. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Keldjos Falzir Rells, baby, you need to have some agression issues looked at. Oh and another point. Its not my agression. At the point you have attacked my family physically or emotionally, it becomes incumbent upon me to defend them. Its simple newtonian law. Each action has a reaction. YOu have the CHOICE of not saying that. If you CHOOSE otherwise you incur the possible reaction. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Keldjos Falzir Originally by: Rells Originally by: Keldjos Falzir Rells, baby, you need to have some agression issues looked at. Oh and another point. Its not my agression. At the point you have attacked my family physically or emotionally, it becomes incumbent upon me to defend them. Its simple newtonian law. Each action has a reaction. YOu have the CHOICE of not saying that. If you CHOOSE otherwise you incur the possible reaction. Wait... do you live in some anarchic society? Because, for those of us in the first world nations anyway, there are typically social organizations (called the "police force" and "judiciary" and even "mental health institutions") which handle that kind of thing, at least in most cases. No. Im old fashioned in that I believe in honor and responsibility. I dont need the police to fight for me in this circumstance. They are better off catching the really nasty people. One lowlife scum with a big mouth can be dealt with without bothering the police. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Keldjos Falzir Morality, Ethics and Honor are all subjective. If you're so old fashioned you can't cope, I have to recommend euphanasia to your kids, before they have to deal with you. More demonstration of the trash of humanity. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:43:00 - [16] Originally by: shinsushi For your sake edit that picture out right now man. Right now.... This thread is inexorably driving me to a conclusion .. one that I should have made a long time ago. Originally posted in frustration with at least half an expectation of people agreeing but I see that im in the minority here. It makes me wonder if I really want to play a game with people like this. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.02 08:55:00 - [17] Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 08:55:54 My mistake in thinking there were decent people playing this game. You people make me sick. Laugh it up and get sadistic and nasty because you are TRASH. I wont be reading it .. enjoy .. bye. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Roy Batty68 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Rells, I can't believe you are asking a forum full of griefers, gankers, virtual criminals about forums hellhole. This game is crime-online and the player base are quite criminalistic minded and you expect decent criticisms? PVP game. I think you missed that bit when you bought your account. You've sat yourself down at a poker table and are complaining about having to play cards. And now your complaining about all the lousy gamblers around you... Doesn't make a whole hell of alot of sense, does it? And there are WoW forums that are worse than this one. So how does that work? It's a stupid association to try and make. Virtual criminals? Your apparent aversion to pvp and the resulting internal conflicts it's causing you does not in any way equal Eve having the dregs of the internet for players. It just means you have yet to come to terms with you and Eve possibly not being a good match. 1) As an avid poker player, I can tell you that any card room would throw you our for acting like an *******. Because you are competing with them in a game does not give you license to drop all standards of human decency. There is quite a big difference between shooting my ship in a game and threatening my children. If you cant see that difference then you have a SERIOUS sociopathic defect. 2) I have an aversion to pvp? Where do you get that out of my post? Thouse who know me in game or have encountered me in game would probably find youre assertion about my feelings toward pvp ... humorus. PVP is in the game and it is part of the game and that doesnt give you license to threaten people in real life, threaten their family or otherwise. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Seventri Originally by: CampyloBacter {Edited for civility} and yes seventri, people did die, including both my grandfathers, to defend the freedom of speech which the western world has as its foundation and which people abuse every second of every day. We abuse it by using it. This is me caring. ONOES Freedom of speech is not a license to say whatever you want to anyone. You cant yell "fire" in a crowded public venue, incite people to riots, threaten to kill someone, give away government secrets and so on. Nor does freedom of speech grant you immunity to repercussions of that speech. As a result of this thread my opinion of this community has dropped considerably. I have gone from feeling it was an intellectual, mostly level headed community to the firm belief that 80% of it is trash. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Gretek Lal Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 06:42:32This place is sewer. Full of people that use internet anonymity to do things that would earn them two knocked out teeth in real life. You've hit it exactly. The game, too, is filled with such people. That's why I have not played in more than a month and have been seriously considering leaving Eve entirely. The game is good. Dont give them the satisfaction. Instead make their lives miserable in game. Its much more fun. Trust to karma or just the equilibrium of the universe that they will get theirs eventually. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!

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